TRAILER: Hairspray Live!

Broadway World reports:

NBC’s Hairspray Live! will air Wednesday, Dec. 7 at 8 p.m. ET/PT and will originate from Los Angeles. The all-star cast includes Harvey Fierstein as Edna Turnblad, Jennifer Hudson as Motormouth Mabel, Martin Short as Wilbur Turnblad, Derek Hough as Corny Collins, Ariana Grande as Penny Pingleton, Andrea Martin as Prudy Pingleton and Kristin Chenoweth as Velma Von Tussle. Rosie O’Donnell and Sean Hayes will also make special appearances in the broadcast.

Live television director Alex Rudzinski will join director Kenny Leon (“The Wiz Live!”). Craig Zadan and Neil Meron (the upcoming “A Few Good Men Live!”) serve as executive producers of “Hairspray Live!” Harvey Fierstein will provide a new teleplay and Jerry Mitchell (“Kinky Boots,” “On Your Feet”) will serve as choreographer for the live production with music and lyrics by Marc Shaiman and Scott Wittman (“Smash” and Broadway’s upcoming “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory”). Derek McLane serves as set designer.

  • Jay George

    Buncha Hair Hoppers!
    😀 I can’t wait! 😀

  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

    It amazes me that something from John Waters’ brain has become so mainstream. I know it’s not Pink Flamingos, but still

    • Kruhn

      Hey I love it! And didn’t John Waters adopt the musical? Plus I love the music, I’m already humming “Good Morning Baltimore”.

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        I love John. He’s said some stupid stuff over the years but who hasn’t? I’m glad he hit the jackpot with hairspray. Man does not live on filth alone! He needs $ too!

        • grada3784

          Didn’t he pay enough by getting dissolved in Seed of Chucky?

        • His work is definitely uneven but whose isn’t? Pecker was a brilliant parody of the art scene. The less said about A Dirty Shame the Better. Serial Mom on the other hand will always have a special place in my heart. White shoes after Labor Day! So hilarious.

          • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

            I remember loving Pecker too. Yes, boys, I love Pecker

          • PickyPecker

            aww, gee. oh…..the movie. dang. well, that’s a classic too! 🙂

          • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

            I ❤️ U 2

          • PickyPecker
          • Ernest Endevor

            Only Audrey Hepburn could wear such an idiotic hat and make it look like it was something a woman would choose to put on her head.

        • Ernest Endevor

          That’s assuming he has a cut of the musical.

          • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

            the musical was before the film right ?

          • Ernest Endevor

            The studio that made the film would own the rights. Unless he has a cut of their subsidiary rights he wouldn’t have any claim. I hope that’s not true and it’s not a world I know well. I’m going by Sandy Wilson who sold the rights to The Boyfriend to MGM who intended it as a vehicle for Debbie Reynolds. That wasn’t made and when MGM auctioned off its assets, another producer bought the property and brought Ken Russel (!) on board. I know this because I caught Sandy just after he’d seen a screening and wasn’t pleased. Fingers crossed that Mr Waters has a better deal. But let’s not forget that Ian Fleming sold the movie rights to all the James Bond movies excepting Casino Royale for $100,000,

      • Amanda B. Rekendwith

        “There’s the flasher who lives next door…”
        lol!

        • Kruhn

          My favorite line from Good Morning Baltimore.

      • popebuck1

        John Waters officially approved the rights to make the musical – and he has been quoted as saying why: Because eventually there would be high school productions, and the fat girl and the drag queen would get to be the stars of the show. How much more subversive can you get?

    • another_steve

      Happens from time to time. The jump from wicked to mainstream.

      I chuckle whenever I’m at a Bar Mitzvah celebration and see the nice matronly women in their finery jump up to do a line dance to the Village People’s “YMCA.”

      • Corsair Tact

        I had the same reaction dancing with all the Christian folk at my brother’s wedding to the same song. HI LARIOUS!

      • CanuckDon

        When I was DJing at some weddings n the ’80s, I was surprised that I got to play Frankie Goes To Hollywood’s “Relax” a few times…course it was towards the end of the reception when the drinks were really hitting and the old fogies were out the door.

        • another_steve

          Lol. Funny.

          It’s one of those songs where the pounding beat tends to overtake the lyrics. Many casual listeners don’t really hear or understand what’s actually being sung.

      • perversatile

        I really should read before posting.

        • Jay George

          Some things bear repeating. 😉

        • another_steve

          Lol.

          I like to think that queer minds think alike. 😉

    • perversatile

      -and white people doing the YMCA at weddings.

    • Hairspray with its mainstream success may in the end turn out to be Waters’s most subversive work. It’s just too joyous not to love. (The original is one of my favorite movies.) At the same time what better way to fight racism than to hold it up to ridicule. My only complaint about the musical is that it omits one of my favorite scene, the one where she is on the run and meets the beatniks (Ric Ocasek and Pia Zadora). Pia Zadora ironing Rikki Lake’s hair is everything. I have memories from early childhood of my sister and her friends ironing each others hair to get that late 60s early 70s straight hair look. Now they have straightening irons for that but back then they would really but their heads next to an ironing board while a friend ironed their hair. So bizarre. Like so much in Hairspray, the weirder it is, the more likely it is to be based on something real. (The director’s commentary on the dvd or the original film are great for this sort of thing.)

      • popebuck1

        John Waters enthusiastically approved the rights to make the Broadway musical, and he has been quoted as saying why: Because eventually there would be high school productions, and the fat girl and the drag queen would get to be the stars of the show. How much more subversive can you get?

        • Ha! I had not hear that quote. But yes, every high school has at least one big girl who can sing and dance and act that no one wants to cast because she’s fat. Waters doesn’t hide that girl in the back. He shines a follow spot on her!

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      Anybody think John was pretty cute in a pervy kind of way when he was younger. He’d love that description most likely! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dccf8a5d9ab93d3135757f766c07bcba930848f041c357c38acae052e4fa5ab1.jpg

      • another_steve

        Yes, he was quite adorable in his long-haired hippie days.

        Here in Baltimore they’re totally gaga over anything Waters. The American Visionary Art Museum is running a show until September 4th that features Bobby Adams’ photos of Waters’ early entourage. (Which, I might add, included for a while a fantastically cute and very young Johnny Depp.)

        http://www.avam.org/exhibitions/big-hope-show.shtml

        • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

          He’s been working that little thin mustache forEVAH. Thanks for the link

    • Emma Duncan

      I am happy to see John Waters finally see some money, the man is an American Treasure.

  • bambinoitaliano

    I wonder the OMM will take time out of their busy schedule of decorating their Xmas tree to protest.

    • Kruhn

      You can count on it. But You Can’t Stop the Beat!

    • bkmn

      They will, but no will notice or care.

    • Mike C

      Integrated live television? They’re going to have fits.

      • bambinoitaliano

        The Xmas cookies they are baking in the oven will crumble. Oh the tragedy!

    • BobSF_94117

      They’ll glance at the screen and carry on with whatever they’re doing, making a mental note to set a hair appointment.

      Assuming they have the sound off and can’t hear Harvey.

    • Piercedchrlz

      They won’t know what they’re watching……

  • MrRobotoLA

    No mention of Garrett Clayton as Link? The kid is cute, and just turned in a pretty solid performance as a gay porn star in King Cobra. I don’t know who Dove Cameron is — but she plays Amber von Tussle.

    • Soren456

      Dove Cameron is a Disney TV star—”Live and Maddie,” “Descendants.” (I sometimes babysit my niece, so I know this stuff.)

      She has a typical Disney Girl helium-infused voice, and more or less sings with it. It’s like fingernails on a chalkboard.

  • David Milley

    That’s one heckuva cast!

  • unclemike

    Please please please do this in front of a live audience. “Grease Live” showed how ti can be done.

  • bkmn

    Finally a live musical I might watch.

    • Steven B

      I know. I’ve started to watch every single one to date and couldn’t finish it. I’m all in for Hairspray.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    I was in New York in the early days (1970s) having custom fitted chaps and a vest made at Marquis de Suede in the Village and was wondering around and bought a ticket to see the play Torch Song Trilogy with Harvey simply based on the theater poster. I really had no idea what to expect. I have been a devoted fan ever since. And I still have the chaps and vest! Although they are fairly worn out. 🙂

    • Jay George

      If you can still fit in ’em, it doesn’t matter. 😀

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        I can, actually.

    • Stubenville

      After a huge rent increase demand, they closed shop and retired in the 80’s. I think the owners moved to Florida?

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        Sounds about right.

    • Duh-David

      I no longer fit my 80s chaps and vest. I would buy new, but apparently they don’t make cows in my size.

      • abel

        Same problemo. Ah, well, memories!

    • Michael White

      I was doing similar in San Francisco at the same time. Great times

    • David Walker

      As long as you wore them out fairly.

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        I had tremendous help along the way. 👍

  • Lane

    This one I’ll definitely watch! I enjoyed The Wiz as well, but didn’t see all the others. I’m glad they’re doing this as a regular concept.

  • Michael Rush

    I might watch this , I heard that Tracy Turnblad has roaches in her hair .

    • carrot festival

      She’s a W-H-O-R-E!

      • Stubenville

        Tracy Turnblad is a clean teen!

        • Michael Rush

          I also heard that Penny Lou Pingleton is absolutely, positively, permanently punished and will live on a diet of saltines and Tang, and never leave her room again.

          • Tom Ato

            I’m voting for a John Waters cameo as Penny’s shrink.

  • karmanot

    This should be good….Harvey Fierstein is amazing as are all the rest of the cast…

  • Jeffrey

    I’m actually really excited to see this. This is the first one of these that has looked good to me.

    • David Walker

      I think I’m most excited because Harvey recreates Edna. I avoided the movie because John Travolta. I mean, Harvey has a good track record in movies. Still, I look forward to this.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Its a big score to get Harvey Feirstein on the live show. Finally NBC is moving closer to getting good casting on its live musical shows.

        • They need viewers so I understand them using pop stars and other famous types to get ratings. That said, some of these young actors CAN sing and dance so it’s possible to put together a good cast for pretty much any show.

      • Jeffrey

        I saw Harvey do it live before. He’s perfect for this role.

        • David Walker

          Jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous

    • Overall these have been pretty good. Most of the complaints have been from people who didn’t realize that the movie version of a musical is not always the same as the stage version. I enjoyed Grease. It wasn’t greater than the movie (as if) but it was enjoyable and there were some very good performances. I’m hoping this excites people about live theater. It’s not quite the same as a live in the theater performance but it has a lot of the energy of that kind of performance that’s just not the same as a film.

  • Stubenville

    Every time I hear Ariana Grande’s name, I think “What does that typeface look like?”

    • Brian in Valdosta

      It looks like Resting Type Face. (boing!)

    • tomfromthenews

      Sounds more like a specialty drink at Starbuck’s to me.

      • Have you met her sister Areola Grande?

        • TuuxKabin

          Their cousin Chichi Sueltas* lives up the block from us.

          *Loose titties.

          • Librarykid

            Does anyone remember Lucky Strike cigarettes? They had LSMFT on the bottom of the pack and the joke in 6th grade was that it stood for “Loose Straps Mean Floppy Tits”

          • TuuxKabin

            No. What a riot. I remember the cigarettes, but not that. We had a school mate, Linda Sanchez. Teased her with Linda Sanchez Married Five Times. Thanks for the laugh.

    • perversatile

      Rounded crotch, small eyes, thin stems, long tails, loopy, with lots of swash.

    • JCF

      Donut licker? [that’s no euphemism]

  • Tulle Christensen

    Ah, a day that will live in infamy

    • David Walker

      One can hope.

  • anne marie in philly

    HARVEY looks Divine (see what I did there?)! but ariana – UGH; no talent little bitchcunt!

    • Duh-David

      I used to say “UGH” also.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiSUlWyeslY

      • TuuxKabin

        She’s good!

        • Ray Taylor

          I’m glad you think so. So many people say she has no talent. We know different.

          • TuuxKabin

            Hi Ray! I’d never even heard of her, have no idea who she is or what she’s done, so I went in with a clean slate. She did fine. Not much of a torch song aficionado except for a few singers, but she’d get 9.75 out of a possible 10, from me.

  • Brian in Valdosta

    If this doesn’t strike its entire viewership instantly GAY GAY GAY, nothing will. Bring on the Harvey!!!!

  • Michael Rush

    offen zee topicus …

    A New York Times investigation found that Donald Trump’s US business empire holds at least $650 million in debt

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html

    ” For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China “

    • bzrd

      How else can he support his gold life style? His name is worth less and less.

    • bambinoitaliano

      He is a con man not a savvy business man. Big difference. Con man goes from one con job to another. He does not possess much wealth but addicted to the lavish lifestyles of the rich and famous. I liken him to drug dealers who themselves are drug addicts. His career is like playing a game of Jenga. Sooner or later it’s going to collapse.

      • NO MORE GOP!

        Hopefully it will collapse in the most spectacular and humiliating way possible, taking all his enablers with it.

        • bambinoitaliano

          Donald Trump is mislabeled as a business man. He is not. He is a salesman at best. He managed to make some money using the family name but the brand is running out of credit quick as he drag it through the mud since his presidential campaign started.

        • Friday

          Frankly, I think it already all but has so he wants to get in on the white supremacy grift.

      • Friday

        Bingo.

    • PickyPecker
    • Herald

      The NYTimes has been ding a great job lately. I am glad to see someone digging this up and getting it out.

  • Michael Rush

    offen zee topicus II ….

    Joy-Ann Reid Tangles With Trump Surrogate Jack Kingston

    http://crooksandliars.com/2016/08/joy-ann-reid-tangles-trump-surrogate-jack

    • TuuxKabin

      Klingston’s smile is . . . ?

      • Lazycrockett

        This Joy is totally different than when she had her afternoon show that got cancelled last year. I’m liking this bulldog approach she has going on.

        • TuuxKabin

          She has every reason to be on the attack, not that it comes off like that. I remember reading about her here at JMG. No tv here so we miss out on tv personalities, but she, Rachel Maddow and a few other ‘talking heads’ help smooth my rankles when I see them in action.

        • Ninja0980

          Me too, she takes no crap from anyone and is far more credible then MHP was IMO.

        • another_steve

          She’s definitely among the best that cable news has. She actually presses the monsters when they don’t answer the question, and follows up when needed.

          Many of the cable news people read the question and don’t even listen to the (non)response. They just go on to the next question on their sheet.

    • bzrd

      These sleeze-bombs are so used to not answering the questions, she nailed him.

    • Bruno

      I was so glad when I saw that that she wouldn’t let him get away with that typical deflection b.s. Didn’t really let him get any of his talking points out completely. That said, I really question the need to have a guest like that on. They’re not going to answer the questions, so why bother giving them even a few seconds to spew out their talking points? It just makes it look like a big waste of time.

      • Michael Rush

        They’re going to have to announce them with proper sounding titles such as ….
        Katrina Pierson – Bullshit Artist
        Katrina Pierson – Expert on what the conversation ISN’T about
        Katrina the Clown

        • Bruno

          Jack Kingston – Dopey-Derangey Deflection Artist

    • Herald

      She was fantastic! I wish more in the media, sorry I really cannot call them journalists anymore, would nail them like she did.

    • greenmanTN

      That was a thing of joy, no pun intended. She is becoming one of my favorites. She interviewed the black minister who spoke at the RNC and handed his ass to him. “Just because you’re a pastor doesn’t mean you get to lie on my show.”

      BOOM!

      • Michael Rush

        Few people will do that to a ” religious person ” , I certainly would , she’s maintains her composure in all of this . I think people will stop appearing on her show for fear of being made to look like the idiots they are .

      • TuuxKabin

        KABOOM!!!

        • greenmanTN
          • TuuxKabin

            Ahh, Martin the Martian. Had a few post cards of the rough sketches of him. Prototype drawings. Loved his gladiator gear.

          • greenmanTN

            Being southern I always liked Foghorn Leghorn.

            Most bizarre cartoon insult ever: “Nice girl, but about as sharp as sack full of wet mice!” I have no clue what that means but it makes me laugh every time.

            https://youtu.be/jImJIIAAL_g

          • TuuxKabin

            Yes. Foghorn was a favorite of mine too, Was Margaret DuMont the voice of the blue bonnet chic? Or Topper’s wife? Lee Patrick? Now we’re watching Foghorn Leghorn. He speaks as if everyone is deaf.

          • greenmanTN

            I have no idea who the voice actress is, but she was wonderful.

            “Oh, a maaaaan!”

          • TuuxKabin

            I’ve often quoted her, when I can keep a straight face.

          • greenmanTN

            Me too! My brother and I are both gay, so if some really hot guy walks by one or both of us is likes to say “Oh, maaaan'” Sometimes simultaneously.

            But I have no blue bonnets in my closet, I swear!

          • TuuxKabin

            My brother, straight tho he seduced me when we were kids and has since died five years ago, used to talk to me with Leghorn’s accent and volume. All in good fun, and we’d both end up in fits of giggles. In the car, on trips, it was one of those “don’t make me stop this car” moments, which of course increase the hysteria.

            “Everything’s Better With Blue Bonnet On It” was an oleo commercial.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkm4HY-3cD8

          • greenmanTN
          • TuuxKabin

            “Nice boy, but he don’t listen to a word you say”. One of our all time quotes.
            Hell, the four of us could have had some fun, watching cartoons and playing in those Tennessee Hills, or creeks, marshes and fields of the East Bay, SF.

            “I say, that boy is just like a tatoo, he gets’ under yo’ skin”. Love it.

            “Uhhh, welllll”, from the blue bonnet.

            Is that Picky Pecker making a cameo appearance? In the baseball clip?

            “Wha’ cha’ doing there dawg?”

            Thanks for the laughs, but . . .

            http://jokideo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/403162_10150613644143465_129446698464_11144620_448774237_n.jpg

          • IamM

            Marvin. 😉

            Martin was Bill Bixby’s Uncle.

          • TuuxKabin

            Thanks, get my male letter ‘M’ names confused. Marvin was adoorbell, so was Martin, Bill Bixby’s Uncle . Two hits rolled into one on this thread.

  • Bluto

    Harvey! He’ll make up for that abortion Travolta played.

    • Jay George

      Travolta shouldn’t be allowed around anything that requires actual acting.

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        His attempts to act like he’s actually hetero are herculean.

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      Harvey was amazing on Broadway. I went 3 times while he was in it. One of the best performances ever… he can’t sing, but god he was magnificent!

      • The movie is quite good but I’m glad they’re doing this so Harvey’s performance will be available on video forever. He really was great. Sing? He can barely talk!

        • bdsmjack

          I love it when he massacres ‘Love For Sale’ in ‘Torching Trilogy.’

        • Kruhn

          I love Travolta in the movie since he can sing and dance despite his career being in a rut.

    • David

      I thought the move was great, guess it’s just a matter of opinion

      • Bluto

        I thought the movie was good too & mostly cast well. Nikki Blonsky was a cutie.

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        I hated the movie. The cut many of the best songs and the story just wasn’t as fun.

    • fuzzybits

      Glad I’ve never seen it.

    • popebuck1

      I didn’t think Travolta was awful, I just wish he hadn’t tried for a “Baltimore accent.” More specifically, I wish his idea of a Baltimore accent weren’t “having a mouthful of rubber cement.”

  • tomfromthenews

    Must-see TV, good or bad.
    The election will be a month behind us and we can relax and sing along!

  • TJay229

    I love Kristen..
    I love Harvey, Jennifer, Rosie and Martin, but I’m sorry, they are going to have a hard time topping https://youtu.be/tfBMqX1SXSA

    The Wiz was Flawless!

  • Michael Rush
  • Ginger Snap

    I fell in love with Harvey when I first watched Torch Song Trilogy he has done no wrong in my eyes since.

    • The book for La Cage aux Folles is also brilliant. It’s effect on not particularly gay-friendly audiences was one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen int he theater.

      • Ernest Endevor

        I’ve always thought it a minstrel show. And the original production was both vulgar and boring. But there was George Hearne who knows how things are done.

  • Six Pins Delores

    A must watch. I have missed seeing Rosie in anything for a long time!

  • Blake J Butler

    O/T: Florida judge permanently blocks abortion law. Victory for Planned Parenthood.

    http://reverbpress.com/politics/victory-for-planned-parenthood-florida-judge-permanently-blocks-abortion-law/

  • billbear1961

    O/T: “FAILURE! RNC Falls Way Short On Fundraising, NRCC Also Sees Yuge Drop”

    The Republican National Committee raised $27.2 million in July — more than $10 million short of the committee’s July fundraising total four years ago.

    The RNC has raised $199.5 million this cycle and has $34.5 million cash on hand.

    In July 2012, the committee raised $37.7 million and had $88.7 million cash on hand.

    A $10 million dollar fundraising deficit in the same month as their nominating convention. Unheard of.

    The really funny “spin” part:

    RNC Chairman Reince Priebus:

    “Thanks to a high level of grassroots support and our Joint Fundraising Agreements with the Trump campaign, the RNC is raising the resources we need to elect Donald Trump president and preserve our majorities in the House and Senate,”

    “We will continue to bolster our fundraising efforts all the way through Election Day.”

    My sincere debt of gratitude to Donald Trump for being a “yuge” anchor around the necks of the RNC/GOP and its down ballot candidates and fundraising. And a special word of gratitude to Reince Priebus, who supported Trump from the beginning and continues to do so. Bankrupt your party, Reince.

    The Trump campaign is taking down the whole Republican party, dollar by dollar, racist, bigoted, misogynistic and homophobic comment after racist, bigoted, misogynistic and homophobic comment.

    “House Republicans’ campaign arm raised $4.6 million in July, a sharp decline from previous months that threatens to place the group at a significant disadvantage against its Democratic counterpart leading up to the November election. Officials with the [NRCC] attributed the drop—from $9.3 million in June—in part to a difficult environment during the two parties’ national conventions. … The [DCCC] raised $12 million in July, continuing a historic fundraising streak for a presidential year when Democrats don’t control the House. … This cycle, the NRCC has raised a total of $114.5 million through July, compared to $133 million for the Democrats.”

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/20/1562182/-PATHETIC-RNC-Falls-Way-Short-On-Fundraising

  • Bruno

    O/T: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/08/20/1562101/-What-s-up-with-LA-Times-polling

    Yes, I’m obsessed with this shitty little poll.

  • These sorts of events take months, even years of planning. How odd that they often show up at just the right moment! South Pacific was revived at Lincoln Center just as Obama was running for president! And now with a very racist Trump campaign we get Hairspray which mocks racists and segregation. The musical theater gods once again are sending us a message.

  • Bruno
    • PickyPecker

      GO, BERNIE! Hit ’em hard!

      • Bruno

        I know it’s probably a pipe dream, but if he’s really going to be effective in steering his most stubborn voters, he needs to hit Jill Stein too.

        • PickyPecker

          I’m guessing he will. Do you know if she made the ballot in CA?

          • Bruno

            Yeah she’s on the ballot here. Green Party presence on the ballot in a state like California is never an issue for them.

        • billbear1961

          She was in Russia, trashing the U.S. record on civil rights while not saying ONE WORD about Putin’s violations of democratic rights and freedoms in Russia.

          There is a photo of her and others sitting at a table with Putin, for Christ’s SAKE!!

          What MORE does it fucking TAKE to expose her outrageous HYPOCRISY?!

          Honest to GOD, I don’t know what PLANET we’re living on, anymore!

          I get so goddamned frustrated with this monumental and relentless BULLSHIT!!

          • Bruno

            Her choice of running mate alone should disqualify her from ANY sane person’s ballot.

          • billbear1961

            “Green Party’s Baraka Has Some…Unorthodox Opinions”

            Yesterday, we took a look at some of the fringy elements of Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein’s rhetoric. Now, in honor of their CNN Town Hall on Wednesday, let us turn to her running mate, Ajamu Baraka.

            Baraka has a distinguished record as a human rights activist and a teacher. What he does not have, however, is any political experience whatsoever. Consequently, he lacks the sort of verbal filter that political pros develop early in their careers. On matters of race and racism, his words tend to recall the militant rhetoric of Malcolm X. He has, for example, called Barack Obama an “Uncle Tom” and—though he supported Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) in the primaries—has said that the Vermonter is committed to “Eurocentrism and normalized white supremacy.” A little fringy, but not too far out of the mainstream. On other matters, however, Baraka’s history raises a few more eyebrows. He’s been in the habit of associating with 9/11 truthers, for example, as well as Holocaust deniers. He himself has embraced various conspiracy theories, such as the notion that MH17 was not downed by pro-Russian insurgents in Ukraine, but instead by anti-Putin Zionists. So, in other words, the Jews are behind everything.

            It is hard to know exactly what constituency Stein felt she would be courting when she chose Baraka. However, the Veep should theoretically be someone who is capable of “sitting at the desk,” as President Obama puts it. Nothing in Baraka’s past suggests that he has that capacity. So, the conclusion here is the same one we reached with Jill Stein yesterday: The Green Party is failing to seize the day, with choices all-but-guaranteed to preserve their fringe, 0.36% of the vote status. The sad thing for the Greens is that Bernie Sanders showed there is support for a Democratic Socialist in America, but Stein and Baraka are the wrong messengers.

            http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Pres/Maps/Aug18.html#item-8

          • Bruno

            Pretty spot on. But I fear she’ll get more than .36% in this one. Hopefully she won’t tip the election to tRump in some tipping point state like Nader did in 2000.

          • JCF

            “the notion that MH17 was not downed by pro-Russian insurgents in Ukraine, but instead by anti-Putin Zionists. So, in other words, the Jews are behind everything.”

            Ew.

            Not gonna lie, not a fan of Zionism. But when it descends to the level of “The Jews!!1!1!”? As stupid as it is vile.

  • Octavio
  • Corsair Tact

    OT: Hate Texas but love Canada? (LOL! If you’re commenting here, then of course you do!) You’ll love this then:

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/19/1562062/-Texas-Gunslingers-Get-Some-Canadian-Justice

    • PickyPecker

      LOL. Love it!

      • Corsair Tact

        My parenthetical is dripping with sarcasm, btw. Nonetheless, I grew up with people just like this and am not surprised they thought they could get away with it. Actually usually they could. They must have acted suspiciously. Canadian in-bound secondary inspection is much rarer than it is on the American side, from my experience.

        • Bruno

          Seems to be more common for people driving with Texas plates. I guess now they know what profiling feels like.

          • Corsair Tact

            Not so usual for a couple but, as a single male with Texas plates driving into Canada for no good reason? That was me. Stopped in and out every time. Had a background check run coming back into the US every time. Once, at Sault St Marie, Mich, the agent was super cute and super hot and super flirty. He held my passport out in his hand just far enough way for me not to be able to grab it. Wanted to talk about Mexican food in Austin. So, we did. The background checks take about 5 minutes to run. In my mind, we had sex during that time. Another one near Plattsburg was trying to figure out how I made money and so I explained it to him. I think that was a mix of actual curiosity and another way of making sure I was on the up-and-up. He was mildly cute. So, it wasn’t all bad.

            At that same station, a couple of years earlier, my car was given a thorough secondary which meant manual and imaging. Poor lady. I was waiting to do laundry until I got back to the US and I had so much stuff that it was all in cloth bags (easier to carry and takes up less room than luggage).

          • Bruno

            With the way things are going in the US with the tRumpanzees and other gun nuts, I imagine border crossing will get even more difficult.

  • bryan

    O/T mini rant : Tom Daley, after performing well in his first diving round the Olympics, today gave a bad dive, and came last. What I find disgusting is the comments I have been reading online now attacking him…. in the ‘Oh, he shouldn’t focused on being a celebrity’… And he flopped in front of his fiancee. With people taking pleasure in him having a bad day. Nothing I hate more than people kicking someone when their down…. rant over. Ugh.

    • Some people just can’t abide with someone else’s successes so they ‘imbiggen'(?) themselves by kicking competent people whenever the opportunity offers itself.

      • Corsair Tact

        Embiggen

        • Octavio

          embigly

          • Corsair Tact

            Embiggify.

          • Octavio

            Dog diggity. See what you do to me?

          • Corsair Tact

            Mission: Accomplished

        • Yeah, my first thought, then doesn’t ’em’ imply something else but ‘im’ didn’t sound right – that circular argument only stopped when I made a choice. Then I could move on.

          • Corsair Tact

            It’s The Simpsons. The logic is all circular.

          • perversatile

            Least cromulent etymological musings ever.

    • Octavio

      I’m soooo not interested in the Olympic$. Worst scamming of a country’s economy to divert funds that could other wise be used to improve the lives of everyone in the country. Instead, it’s a scam to line the pockets of uber rich assholes. Not a fan.

      • Corsair Tact

        I do love the pomp and circumstance of the opening ceremonies. LOVED Mrs. Betty Windsor and James Bond. That was fabulous. Otherwise it’s just more Sports. Yay Sports! Go Sports!

        • Octavio

          “Grampa’s alive. Yay.”

      • PickyPecker

        I think it needs to be totally revamped and the scamming stomped out as much as possible. Many ways that could be done.
        Here’s MY major beef with what goes on. At least here in the US on major networks covering the events, all they seem to focus on are gymnastics, certain track&field, beach volleyball and swimming.
        MEANWHILE…there are competitors who have worked very hard to present in MANY, MANY other events that are just as worthwhile…and sometimes more interesting to watch. For me…..I have to seek out the equestrian events (which never gets so much as a boo from MSM). These folks have to even bring their own fucking animals a week in advance in order to compete. THAT is also dedication….beyond the chlorine, so to speak. Rant over. 🙂

        • My rant is that they need to get back to the original basics of the games.
          The Olympics are meant to be played NUDE.

          • perversatile

            That is an exceptionall good idea.

        • perversatile

          My pal R.J. a former suit-n-tie corporate hack at
          Coca-Cola said his “what the fuck am I doin with my life” moment occurred during a planning committee meeting for the 1996 Olympics, when he referred to the approaching games as “The Official Smash Grab & Run Wealth Distribution Competition. Followed by quoting a local rapper, and suggesting ”our wallets so fat we gotta sit sideways” as their team motto.
          R.J. later explained, ”I didn’t quit for any single reason you could use on a resume. I quit because ‘laughing all the way to the bank’ was a bulletin point on my personal mission statement, and I started having really sick violent fantasies about the next obligatory, Workplace Synergy and Unity Through Guided Team Building Exercise weekend getaway.”

    • Lumpy Gaga

      It’s sportstalk. It’s built for stupid.

    • Lazycrockett

      https://twitter.com/TomDaley1994/status/767075817423826948

      He will be okay, plus he won the bronze earlier.

      • bryan

        Glad to see him fighting back. LBGT sportsmen and women have really been under the radar this year,,,,, And some bigots celebrate if they lose…sickening…

  • ohbear1957
  • billbear1961

    O/T: Three CHEERS for Joy Reid, REAL journalist–Defender of the REPUBLIC!!

    I’d venture a guess that most of those reading this are regular MSNBC viewers. No doubt you have your favorites. Who doesn’t admire Rachel? She’s been my hero. Still is. She’s so well known we rarely even use her last name. Now, having proven her mettle and then some, Joy Reid has become my co-hero.

    Joy Reid is proving herself to be the best counter-puncher of all her heavyweight MSNBC colleagues. She does it not with boxing gloves, but with a velvet fist.

    Last night she had some hapless Trump surrogate reduced to near incomprehensible gibberish as she was relentless in insisting he stop spewing his attacks on Hillary and answer her questions about Trump.

    She did it again this morning with another inept surrogate. She’s done this with every miserable excuse for a surrogate she’s interviewed.

    She has an effective retort to surrogates who criticize, even attack, her for not answering their questions (usually about Hillary): “I’m interviewing you, you’re here to answer my questions.”

    Joy has mastered the art of talking over her Trumpian guests as they mouth talking points by rote without seeming rude or cutting their microphones. I’m sure the audio engineers could even turn the volume down on the guest’s microphones, but they don’t.

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/20/1562157/-Morning-or-evening-Joy-Reid-skewers-Trump-s-surrogates-but-why-do-they-keep-going-on-her-show

    http://cdn.renewcanceltv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/amjoy-wpcf_300x320.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwEXTLNeNoE

    • Bruno

      If only they could get someone on CNN to do this. No hope with Faux.

      • Lazycrockett

        Being a bit of a news junky I had to watch CNN these last two weeks and not only disgusted in what they covered, but annoyed how many times they had a panel discussion that was just their own talking heads arguing back and forth. It wasn’t journalism at all.

      • billbear1961

        Most of them have NO respect for their profession, NO self-respect and NO concern, at ALL, for this democracy, Bruno.

        I despise them–DESPISE them!!

        I have FAR more respect for a streetwalker–they rent their bodies out for a short time.

        They do not SELL THEIR SOULS to make a living, while SHITTING on the TRUTH.

        They SIT THERE and, without blinking, listen to LIES, irrational, two-faced, bigoted arguments in favour of discrimination and callous cruelty or neglect, WILD speculation and conspiracy theories without a SHRED of evidence, deliberately fabricated GARBAGE designed to commit character assassination, and, increasingly, provide a venue to fascists whose extremist views have NO PLACE in a modern, enlightened, diverse and democratic society!!

        Where is their CONCERN about a political party that is committing blatant SEDITION by refusing, for the FIRST time in our HISTORY, to obey the CONSTITUTION and consider ANY nominee for SCOTUS that the President may submit for their advice and consent?!

        Where is their CONCERN about a candidate for the presidency who, for the sake of a Russian THUG, threatens our long established alliances with the democracies of the western world–alliances which have the kept the PEACE between the nations of Europe since the end of WWII–and who will not release his TAX RETURNS to PROVE financial ties to the oligarchs of that increasingly tyrannical regime are not behind his recklessly IRRESPONSIBLE attitude, his PLIANCY with regard to that international HOODLUM–a candidate who has, in an unprecedented act of treachery, called for a foreign power to launch cyberattacks on his OWN country to help him defeat his rival for the White House, and who has hinted that the best way to deal with her might be for gun fanatics in this country to ASSASSINATE her and/or judges she may choose if she’s elected POTUS?!

        Where is their CONCERN for the national security of their own country and for the peaceful transfer of power and RESPECT for democracy in the world’s oldest democratic republic?!

  • fuzzybits

    I love the original Hairspray,but have a real soft spot for Peggy Gravel. https://thethoughtexperiment.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ohsnapyourmomitsmelp.png

    • MBear

      The children are having sex, Beth is pregnant, and i narrowly missed an assassination attempt moments ago! !

  • Steven B

    OKAY! I’m in.

    Watch party. My house. Anyone?

    • TuuxKabin

      What shall we bring?

      • Steven B

        Something classic from the 60s. How about a tuna noodle casserole with crushed potato chips?

        • TuuxKabin

          Gawd yes, that sounds delicious. We’ll grow our hair out to ‘crew cut’ and turn the cuffs up on our 501’s, rolled up tee shirt sleeves with a pack of candy cigarettes in the ‘roll’. Beer with that, yes?

          • Steven B

            Abso-fuckin-lutely beer. But we’ll make it Hamm’s (from the lands of sky blue waters) or Schlitz (the beer that made Milwaukee famous).

          • TuuxKabin

            Hamm’s. Loved the commercial.

            Maybe a ball game pre-show?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP8JgQxXO8U

            Maybe we could get the Schlitz commercial folks to join us.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC8mqPLHDVU

          • Steven B

            That brings back memories. But it’s not a watch party if it’s just you and us. Who else is in?

          • TuuxKabin

            Not a watch party? But, you said . . . wha’ we gettin’ into?

          • Steven B

            Well I guess that depends on how many of us are there and whether or not we really want to watch Hairspray.

          • TuuxKabin

            Like the message, but not crazy ’bout musicals. I’ll concentrate on the casserole and Hamm’s. Or Schlitz.

        • Robert Conner

          Oh God! The flashbacks!

  • Kevin Perez

    Why did they move it from Long Island? I think it was brilliant for them to broadcast from Bethpage. This makes me a little bit sad.

  • JDS

    Most of the actors in this sound cool. What part is Rosie O doing? I’m confused.

  • JCF

    Shouldn’t Tracy Turnblad get a billing? O_o

  • Gayskeptic

    I am glad that the cast from The West Wing keeps its place in the Hairspray. Allison Janey in the movie, and now Kristin Chenoweth.