REUTERS: The Clinton Campaign Has Been Hacked Too

Reuters reports:

The computer network used by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign was hacked as part of a broad cyber attack on Democratic political organizations, people familiar with the matter told Reuters.

The latest attack, which was disclosed to Reuters on Friday, follows reports of two other hacks on the Democratic National Committee and the party’s fundraising committee for candidates for the U.S. House of Representatives.

The U.S. Department of Justice national security division is investigating whether cyber hacking attacks on Democratic political organizations threatened U.S. security, sources familiar with the matter said on Friday.

The involvement of the Justice Department’s national security division is a sign that the Obama administration has concluded that the hacking was state sponsored, individuals with knowledge of the investigation said.

Hackers, whom U.S. intelligence officials have concluded were Russian, gained access to the entire network of the fundraising Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, of DCCC, said people familiar with the matter, detailing the extent of the breach to Reuters for the first time.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    And with Trump encouraging this kind of thing, it’s time to arrest him for treason.

    • lymis

      At the very least, subpoena his tax returns.

      • billbear1961

        YES!!

        What are they waiting for?!

        This is now a matter of national security!!

        • Galvestonian

          Can they really do that ?

          • billbear1961

            David Caster posted this reply to me on another thread:

            Do keep in mind that Trump’s tax returns are in the hands of the IRS. The FBI and CIA can easily gain access to them under the euphemistically named USA Freedom Act, which replaced the Patriot Act.

  • WeRTheSquirrels

    Of course it has. This is just the beginning of a giant fuckmess.

  • Ziad Baaklini

    Probably to steal strategies to feed Trump.

    • Michael Rush

      Is this more of Melania’s work ?

      • TampaDink

        Only if she got the idea from Michelle Obama.

        • Christopher

          😉

    • Acronym Jim

      That would depend on Trump being able to follow a strategy without going off script.

  • Kissmagrits

    Just wait until the vote tabulation hacking sets in November 8th. One would think that cyber security would be a really major budget item, but no – they spend more on balloons, bunting and gin.

    • danolgb

      I’m sure you blame women when they get raped too.

      • Guest

        WTF? The Repug Congress has refused to spend the money that is needed to make our systems secure against espionage and hackers, and then blame the Dems for it. Haven’t you been paying attention?

      • Kissmagrits

        Did you actually read what I said? Do try to keep up…..
        And, incidentally, rape is never funny and is an act of
        terror.

  • Bob Conti

    That’s why Admiral Adama wouldn’t allow networks on the Galactica. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZnhzAo2Ozk

    • Jamie_Johnson

      Yes, but using paper records… even with cut corners, such as waste! (Oh, and Apollo was totally wasted on all those girls, too.)

    • LackofFaithify

      Did always wonder…was it ever explained why the toasters could not have hacked a single system? Like jump drive? Sorry, I’ll shut up now.

      • Yes. All of Galactica’s subsystems were electronically isolated. Actual physical access would be required to interfere with things like the jump drive or life support.

        • LackofFaithify

          Ah, ok. Apollo must have been shirtless during that exposition or something. That’s what I’m blaming it on anyway. Not fat Apollo.

        • Octavio

          Did you say the Trump drive or Wife support?

          • LackofFaithify

            the wife support impeller has been broken for YEARS.

      • Bob Conti

        Toasters or skin jobs?

    • another_steve

      My greatest fear in life is that hackers from another planet will get into my online collection of Czech twink porn and corrupt it. Make it unwatchable for me.

      So many hours of research on my part, lost.

      • Acronym Jim

        Oh, my “nice friend.”

      • LackofFaithify

        You don’t have an off site backup setup? If it’s not offsite, it is not backed up!

        • another_steve

          You mean… I have to put my Czech boys on the Cloud?

          • LackofFaithify

            But don’t they already float on them? 🙂

          • another_steve

            Czech gay porn star Ales Hanek.

            (He’s MINE, bitches.)

          • I went to hit the “Share” button below his picture, but it didn’t work. He’s still on the screen and not on my lap.

          • another_steve

            The art, freehit, is to get him indelibly encoded in your fantasy life.

      • Steverino

        Czechmate?

        • IamM

          Among other titles. 😄

  • Patrick Thomas

    That the Russians don’t want Hillary should be a sign to Republicans that that is exactly who they should elect. That said, I’m wondering if The Donald persuaded Putin and his cronies to do a brother a solid and dig the dirt on Hils.

    • NancyP

      She’s been dug into for 25 years – she may be the single most investigated politician or at least the politician most investigated by the wingnuts and conspiracy theorists. If she hasn’t had anything really serious stick by now, the Russians aren’t going to turn up anything new. They might FORGE emails, but I doubt that there is a legitimate “smoking gun” in Hillary’s past.

  • And Trump and his Russian allies add “re-enacting an international version of Watergate” to his full-on adoption of Richard Nixon’s political tactics.

    • another_steve

      Several columnists have written that this is potentially much much worse than Watergate.

      If it can be linked back to the Trump campaign, it will be the greatest political crime in the history of the United States.

      • Oh, I know. It is also the first time — whether serious or not — that I can EVER recall a presidential candidate from either of the major parties literally asking a foreign power to attack and spy on us.

        I mean, we know that a large part of what Trump says is just whatever shit crosses his amphetamine-addled brain, but I truly do wonder if there’s a Rubicon he can cross to cause the GOP to just cut him loose. Does he actually have to be witnessed committing a crime of violence? He’s already blatantly violating elections laws by STILL soliciting donations from foreigners.

        • another_steve

          Thank you. These Russian hackings are fraught with danger for Trump.

          All it will take is one — repeat, one — disgruntled under-paid programmer somewhere in Moscow to step forward and tell of conversations s/he’s aware of between the bosses there and Trump’s campaign. Just one.

          Trump and his people better have their shit together on this one, ’cause this could explode in their faces in a BIG BIG way.

          • Bruno

            It’s not the 80’s anymore, either. She could just step on a plane and seek asylum rather than figure out some intricate way of defecting.

        • TampaDink

          I think that he truly believes that he can be caught committing a violent crime….like shooting someone in the middle of 5th Avenue….and is the only outcome of that would be a bump in his polling numbers.

          • Bj Lincoln

            The way he acts is like someone who thought it would be funny to try for the office then scared shitless when he kept going so he said shit like shooting people and calling immigrants criminals and rapists. I don’t think he ever thought he would get this far and now will say or do everything to not get elected. ANYONE who thinks asking Russia to spy on us is a sign of a good president is REALLY stupid. I’m hoping he turns around and points and laughs at the GOP for being such suckers and exposed the ‘moral’ bunch of white supremacists as the dumb ass bigots they are.

          • TampaDink

            For a long time I was convinced that he’d reveal his fake attempt to win their nomination at their convention by stating that he must decline their nomination. “I’ve said & done the most outrageous things over the last 13 months & you kept voting for me. What the hell is wrong with you people?!?!???” And as the hall erupted into chaos, his last words into the hot mic “Go Hillary!”

          • It would’ve been nice, if not for the fact we’ve known for decades that the Trump we see now is only a more publicly extreme and mentally ill version of the man everybody’s been saying he always was.

          • TampaDink

            So true. What would have been even nicer….would be if he’d attempted a stage dive into that sea of ignorant, hate fueled bigots & they all jumped out of the way, allowing the most amazing face plant onto the convention floor.

          • IamM

            It’s so surreal. Things that would be too over the top in a movie like Airplane! or Top Secret!, keep happening.

          • fuzzybits

            I saw Joy Behar talking to Nancy Pelosi and she said the same thing and that he’s hoping he loses.

          • AtticusP

            But how sad that there are people I know that I credited with far more sense who are Trump supporters.

            I’m afraid that this election is going to test a lot of friendships, and I think that’s a shame.

          • Raising_Rlyeh

            I have several family members that I am getting close to cutting ties with. It’s not just voting for Trump. The things they have expressed are just horrendous.

        • Traxley Launderette

          My hope — and prediction — is that if Trump’s campaign is behind this (and I’m sure it is), Trump won’t be able to keep it secret by blurting out damning bits of evidence while thinking no one’s smart enough to figure out what his Great Brain has been up to. He needs to constantly assuage his ego, reveling in his feeble cleverness.

          Believe me, He will be so angry when he’s caught and exposed. Sad!

      • JT

        Not to mention treason, a crime against the state and the people.

      • Galvestonian

        one can only hope … I don’t mean that it’s good that any Democratic organizations were hacked … I just pray that they can link it to Trump. Give him a fair trial then hang him.

      • Steverino

        Too bad there isn’t a way to impeach and remove from candidacy a presidential nominee. But then, I suppose we would be stuck with Pence. Sheesh.

        • Traxley Launderette

          Pence has the charisma and sparkle of a Styrofoam bowl full of cold, congealed oatmeal.

        • Reality.Bites

          The RNC isn’t under any legal or traditional requirement to bump Pence up to Presidential nominee. They could decide it any number of ways.

      • Captain Jack

        Tomorrow

  • Good Shot Green

    Clearly the DNC needs Crash Override and Acid Burn to retaliate.

  • danolgb

    Meanwhile..

    Bernie Fans Abandoned DNC Protest Because ‘Microaggressions’ Made Them Cry
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/bernie-fans-abandoned-dnc-protest-because-microaggressions-made-them-cry/

    One of the things they’re claiming is the DNC put up “white noise machines” to block their cheers. That’s not how white noise machines work.

    • PLAINTOM

      I thought all the white noise machines were on stage at the GOP convention 😉

      • Michael Rush

        We love her anyway .

      • Steverino

        And Fox News.

    • Steven B

      I’m a retired audiologist. I know a thing or two about the physics of sound. You’re right. That’s not how white noise works.

    • ‘Microaggressions’? They actually used that appalling word?

      (pause to go read the link) Gawd, they actually did. To them: “No, assholes, you wanted to disrupt the Democratic convention with your heckling and bullshit terrible-optics chanting and anti-Dem protest signs. Other people exercised their right to disagree with you and counter-protest you.”

      I can’t believe I’m reposting this for their edification, but here it is.
      http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png

      • Stev84

        Microaggressions are a real thing. Small slights and offenses do indeed add up over time and be as bad as all-out larger attacks. It just doesn’t apply here.

        • It is still a terrible made-up word that in general use seems to mean whatever the speaker of that word wants in the moment, and if one disagrees at all, there’s yet another accusation of ‘committing a microaggression.’

          I for one am glad the Trump supporters were marginalized and drown out.

        • IamM

          I like the bit about being marginalized though. Cuz technically that’s how democracy works, the stuff everyone agrees on gets top billing and the rest is off to the side to varying degrees. And Bernie got unprecedented recognition & influence for his endorsement yet, there’s this rump determined to be Bernie-r than Bernie about having everything their way.

    • Bob Conti

      Do they also spray vinegar at chem trails?

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      oh is THAT what we are calling bullying now? Microaggressions?
      and nobody is a bigger hyprocrite than the bully himself.
      Throwing tantrums at the dnc, creating havoc, chanting during speeches.
      But the adults were microaggressive?
      “Mommy Im not talking to you right now. you are being microaggressive to my feelings”
      boo hoo hoo

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        and another thing!
        We’ve got a tyrant running for president with a real possibility of stealing this election.
        We’ve got russian spies hacking computers of the DNC attempting to swing the election of a sovereign nation
        We’ve got religious extremists drooling over mike pense turning this country into a theocracy
        We’ve got the possibility of literally world war three on our hands

        And what are these infantile children worried about?
        coining a new word for their entitled butthurt.
        Fuck microaggression. How about some good ole mommie dearest get tha fuck real aggression
        grow up

        • RainbowPhoenix

          They didn’t coin the term “microaggressions”. They’re just using it incorrectly.

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            Well they own it now.

      • Traxley Launderette

        But “microaggressions” looks SO MUCH BETTER under a pouty-face selfie on a Tumblr blog.

      • cleos_mom

        One of these days we’re going to see claims of microaggression as a “disease”. In the same category as “Chronic Lateness Syndrome” and compulsive shopping.

    • RainbowPhoenix

      The Bernie or Busters are really determined to prove that they’re a bunch of children who have never experienced any real suffering or prejudice.

      • Steverino

        Since they can’t get 100% with Bernie, they apparently would rather get 0% with Trump than 80% with Hillary.

        Severed nose, meet spited face.

        • IamM

          On top of which, even the imaginary version of Hillary peddled by assorted kooks at the far ends of the political spectrum would be better than Trump.

        • Reality.Bites

          They only want Bernie himself, not his policies. They blame Hillary for depriving them of Bernie.

    • Acronym Jim

      You know, I think Katy Perry could have done better too, but that’s really hitting below the belt.

      Give the girl a break, her earpiece wasn’t properly inserted.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      White noise, black helicopters, yadda yadda yadda

  • JT
  • AW

    Was this the Russians too? And why no hacking of Donald’s campaign or the RNC? This seems highly suspicious.

    • PLAINTOM

      Why hack your own candidate ?

    • SoCalGal20

      The Russians apparently want Trump to win the election.

      • TampaDink

        As do ISIS, al-queda & boko herom I would think.

        • Chucktech

          Indeed, they know the tremendous damage that will be inflicted on the US if he’s elected.

  • Michael Rush

    It would be magical if recordings of Trump discussing these things were to leak .

    • TampaDink

      We don’t even need leaked recordings, he has invited Russia to do this and washes his hands of any responsibility by saying he was being sarcastic.

  • LackofFaithify

    Bill’s been replying to those enhancement pill emails I see/

    • Yixing’s Fluffer

      All-natural Kazakh beauties direct to you!

      • LackofFaithify

        Na, na, that’s Trump’s reward from Big Daddy P if he wins. Time to trade in the current, out of date model he’s riding around on now.

  • billbear1961

    Where are you, Trump?? Call off your Russian henchmen!!

    And release your TAX RETURNS!!

    We have a RIGHT to know to what extent you’re in HOCK to the Russian oligarchs!

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/vladimir_putin_has_a_plan_for_destroying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html

    It’s now a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY!!

    How long is this gong to go on before SOMEONE holds that fascist THUG accountable?!

    If this had happened to the GOP after Hillary urged an attack on them by a foreign power she had very suspicious financial ties to, the goddamned GOP Congress and the oh-so-terribly-impartial MEDIA would be DEMANDING investigations and her head on a silver platter!!

    Their stinking hypocrisy DISGUSTS me!!

  • AtticusP

    When it comes to the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, I think that this cartoon says it all:

    • danolgb

      That’s good.

    • moebym

      This is brilliant.

      • Alicetwalden

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      • Jenniferrcastillo2

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    • SoCalGal20

      That’s awesome!

    • Octavio

      Is most clever.

      • TuuxKabin

        dah dahlingk, vedy most.

    • MattM

      ____

      • I’m giving this to a co-worker.

      • Kay

        LGBTQ person with job: Hillary is worse.

        LGBTQ person who cares about the democratic process: Hillary is worse.

        Legal Mexican LGBTQ immigrant who cares about immigration and the rule of law: Hillary is worse.

        LGBTQ person who cares about workers: Hillary is worse.

        Free Trade is horrible for the working class. Labour unions have no power when employers are free to move their jobs elsewhere, and employers can’t raise prices on the products they make to pay a living wage when they have to compete with cheap foreign goods.

        Trump isn’t anti-gay, and he’s responsible for shifting the party away from many of their anti-gay positions. He’s provided the cover the GOP needed to step away from being anti-gay, and we can finally stop having LGBTQ voters be political pawns – boogymen for the right, and pandering targets for the left.

        It’s telling that Clinton’s acceptance speech was basically stolen from Trump’s platform – she’s scared of him, and recognizes that Americans care about their economy, and their jobs. It’s why Bernie and Trump did so well, but with the system being rigged like it was, Bernie didn’t stand a chance.

        • cleos_mom

          “Rig”

          1. To provide with a harness or equipment; fit out.
          2. Nautical
          a. To equip (a ship) with sails, shrouds, and yards.
          b. To fit (sails or shrouds, for example) to masts and yards.
          3. Informal To dress, clothe, or adorn: The costumer rigged out the actors in peasant clothing.
          4. To make or construct in haste or in a makeshift manner: rig up a tent for the night.
          5. To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain: rig a prizefight; rig stock prices.
          n.
          1. Nautical The arrangement of masts, spars, and sails on a sailing vessel.
          2. Special equipment or gear used for a particular purpose.
          3.
          a. A truck or tractor.
          b. A tractor-trailer.
          c. A vehicle with one or more horses harnessed to it.
          4. The special apparatus used for drilling oil wells and extracting the oil.
          5. Western US See saddle.
          6. Informal A costume or an outfit: wore an outlandish rig to the office.
          7. Fishing tackle.
          8. To not get whatever you want, when you want it. Plus a pony.

          • Kay

            Yes, you have a dictionary. Good for you.

            Hillary (and her friends at the DNC) rigged the system against Bernie Sanders. Definition #5.

          • cleos_mom

            No; for the current crop of purity pony fanatics to both the left and right, it’s pretty much #6.

            Postscript: If you do get a pony, Mom won’t let you keep it in the house.

        • Gerry Fisher

          >LGBTQ person who cares about the democratic process: Hillary is worse.

          More like, “Who ignores that, for very good reasons, we’re a Democratic Republic, not a Democracy, and who gets his panties in bunch when someone uses email to sound off in a biased, unprofessional way…like that never, EVER happens in any other context.”

          • Kay

            As I said, I care about the process. I’m not advocating a direct democracy – far from it. All it takes is one look at the average liberal to understand why that’s a bad idea.

            That does not, however, mean that we should abandon all presence of representation, and elect someone like Hillary who is only in it to represent herself, on behalf of the highest bidder.

            Given what a “professional” politician tends to do, I’d much rather have an amateur – someone who isn’t bought and paid for by Wall Street, and someone who cares about his brand, his reputation, and his legacy. The worst possible thing for someone with Trump’s ego would be to be thought of as a failure. The best thing for him is to be a good president, just like the best thing for a CEO who stays with a single company for any length of time is to do a good job.

            A golden parachute isn’t nearly as good as the rewards for doing a good job.

        • MattM

          How much is the Trump campaign paying you to lie to us with a straight face?

          • Kay

            Unlike Hillary, Donald Trump doesn’t need to pay millions to AstroTurf firms to “correct the record“.

          • MattM

            You’re right: his lies are so heinous and obvious he gets fact checked for free. It’s a shame you’ve put your money on that orange goblin. Which obliterates your credibility entirely.

        • Dylan Donn

          As a member of the gay community, I think it is critical to look at who Trump wants to select as a supreme court justice…please read this article and then decide if you’d like a Trump america or a president whose platform is not detrimental to the LGBT community (and to be even more expansive–the world).
          http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/5/18/trumps-lgbt-unfriendly-supreme-court-picks

    • NancyP

      Clever!

    • Steverino

      Wow, it’s an awesome kind of sentence palindrome, and so spot-on!

    • fuzzybits

      That’s great.

    • Traxley Launderette

      Genius.

    • AtticusP

      I was intrigued by the cartoonist’s “Apologies to Chanie Gorkin”, so I googled her name (what did we ever do without Google!?) and found that Joe Heller based this on a poem written by this 11th grader from Brooklyn, NY.

      • TuuxKabin

        Something about Brooklyn, and the Bronx for that matter. BRainy BRonx – BRainy BRooklyn. IMHO that poem is profound and leave it to someone like Joe Heller to find it and pass it along. Thanks Atticus for putting it here.

  • PLAINTOM

    Hmm, I am starting to wonder if Trump outperforming the polls in the GOP primary wasn’t the result of polling errors.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      yep. hacking into poling machines.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      what worries me is that the general election could be hacked too

      • billbear1961

        Security Expert: Russian Hackers Could Target Voting Machines in November

        The hacking of the DNC, likely by the Russian intelligence agencies, could be small potatoes compared to the finale. Security expert Bruce Schneier, a lecturer at Harvard, is concerned that the Russians could try to hack voting machines in November in an effort to elect Donald Trump. Now that Donald Trump is inviting Vladimir Putin to take part in the election, there is no reason to think he will stop at leaking some emails.

        In the long run, voting machines have to be eliminated or at least replaced by machines that let the voters make choices and then print out paper ballots that the voters can verify and then put in the ballot box or optical scanner. The machines should not keep a running tally of votes cast since they cannot be trusted. Threats come from the manufacturer, people who can access the machines before voting starts, and if the machines are online, from hackers. In the short run (meaning Nov. 2016), machines that can’t be replaced should be taken offline, so they cannot be hacked remotely and their code replaced by more Putin-friendly code, possibly months before the election. If that can’t be done, voters should be given plain old paper ballots to mark. Under no conditions should anyone even consider creating a committee to study possible future Internet voting. Security experts are unanimous in agreeing there is no way that could ever be made secure.

        http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Pres/Maps/Jul28.html#item-3

        You KNOW that GOP secretaries of state will find excuses to avoid following these suggestions.

  • another_steve

    Somebody connect the dots.

    PLEEZE…somebody connect the dots, and before the election in November.

    • Steverino

      Follow the money.

  • Rocco Gibraltar

    Here’s a crazy idea. Maintain an honest campaign. And don’t worry if your website is hacked.

    • SoCalGal20

      You do realize it’s not just about getting dirt on how the campaign is run, right? They also had access to information on donors including things like their phone numbers, strategies regarding Trump, and who knows what else.

    • RainbowPhoenix

      So it doesn’t bother you that we are facing the possibility that a hostile foreign power is committing political espionage at the behest of a presidential candidate?

    • In that case, I’m sure you won’t mind sharing your passwords with all of us here? I mean, this assumes you have nothing to hide or any expectation of privacy whatsoever.

      • Bruno

        Everything Hillary ever does needs to be scrutinized by every Republican and NaderBot before she’ll be allowed to not go to prison.

      • Acronym Jim

        It also ignores that whatever is stolen can be doctored to say something else.

      • cleos_mom

        And why are so many people so ashamed to make their credit card info public? How sad that we’ve been reduced to such an abject state of fear.

  • Ernest Endevor

    Oh my Christ almighty, it;s a foreign intervention! We are being invaded.

    • LackofFaithify

      Calm down. With the 2nd Amendment we here at home are pretty much as heavily armed as most smaller nations. Alright, on the count of 3, shoot the fucking traitor internet! 1, 2…wait, what do you mean “no physical body to kill?” That’s some bullshit…

      • Ernest Endevor

        I’m too pretty to die!

  • PLAINTOM

    Memo to GOP primary candidates: Trump kept saying the election was rigged, he just forgot to tell you the polling machines were rigged in his favor. It is very interesting that Trump lost all the caucus states where electronic voting machines weren’t used.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Ted cruz has suddenly become a frenemy of the DNC

      • PLAINTOM

        Trump, took out Cruz in primary and I am hoping Cruz helps take out Trump in the general. Contrary to what you have been told, two wrongs CAN make it right.

  • PLAINTOM

    Maybe it’s just me but I don’t doubt that a casino owner may know something about rigging machines or at least know people who have that expertise.

    • Reality.Bites

      There is absolutely no evidence for your scurrilous accusation that Trump knows something about running casinos.

  • Todd

    KKKomrade Donald —
    Thanks for the invite ….
    Vladmir

  • Gyeo

    Bet: This hack won’t reveal anything illegal either but baffoons will eat it claiming “fraud” and “manipulation” and “dishonesty” without actually looking at its contents. That’s how propaganda works. I could literally claim to have a letter incriminating the DNC and no one would care if it’s just my grocery list.

    • Bruno

      My feeling is, you put out the most damning stuff first. Strike the biggest blow and see if you hobble them. That didn’t really happen to their liking, so they’re dragging this out to see if they can keep the story in the news. I predict nothing more will come of the leaks.

      • Gyeo

        Yep. IF they did have something damning, they’d say it already. Clinton would be over. But they don’t so they need fodder for more propaganda wars. People will believe there is something damning without evaluating it. That was the point of the voicemail leak. The folks who hate Hillary won’t actually listen to it (if they did it would be boring as hell) but the idea that something has been leak will conjure feelings of fraud without actual evidence.

        • Bruno

          This debunks that Assange claimed he had something to get her indicted with: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/will-a-wikileaks-email-get-clinton-imprisoned.html

          • SoCalGal20

            Ah. Well that clears things up. There’s no there there. Good to know thry don’t actually have anything, though I would think if they did it would already be out.

        • Reality.Bites

          I think if they truly had something damning they’d wait to release it till it was too late for her to recover and too late for her to be replaced.

    • I have an email in my possession which states categorically that Donald J Trump blows goats compulsively, every single day.

      True, I wrote that email and forwarded it to myself, but the email does exist.

      I demand that Trump address this goat blowing allegation! Silence is assent and confirmation!

      • Steverino

        I hear he fucks sheep, too. S-a-a-a-a-a-d!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Russia happily obliged their inside man, Donald Trump.

  • zhera

    The only way Trump has a chance at winning is if he can find some kind of dirt that is SO BAD that Hillary Clinton is taken straight to jail.

    At least that’s how he and GOP are acting.

    Makes me wonder just how damning Trump’s tax return really are.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      or hack the general election

      • pch1013

        or tell his pal Vladimir to send a few Chechens over to perpetrate a terrorist attack in the U.S.

    • Chucktech

      I think it’s far more likely that Hillary and the Dems (and lots of other players) find some kind of dirt that is SO BAD that The Donald is taken straight to jail. I think Trump’s skating on some pretty thin legal ice…

      • zhera

        From your lips (fingers) to His Meatball-y Ears!

      • Traxley Launderette

        Given the last few weeks, his grip on reality’s so shaky the bolts and rivets on his campaign are flying off at an incredible rate.

        I’m hoping for an orange supernova before September.

  • SoCalGal20

    Where will it end? I guess the DSCC hasn’t been hacked yet? I haven’t seen it mentioned.

    And about the 4th circuit ruling on the NC voting law. HOLY SHIT. They cut early voting days down because through their research they discovered that African Americans disproportionately voted in the first seven days of early voting and they’re predominately Democrats. Like, that’s how blatant it was. Btw the reason it’s that way is because black churches do a “Souls to polls” vanpool thing to get people out to vote and the law cut out one of the Sundays.

    https://twitter.com/seanmcelwee/status/759114711241818113

    • Aye, it could not have been more blatant. North Carolina’s Republican-controlled legislature specifically asked which voter registration and voting habits were most commonly used by African Americans — and then systematically went after all five identified. Especially the early voting period.

      • SoCalGal20

        Did they seriously think that was going to survive court scrutiny? I saw something that said they had this legislation all ready to go the moment SCOTUS gutted the VRA.

        I hope this means a bunch of livid minorities at the lolls in NC in November!

        • They weren’t counting on Scalia dying while accepting a bribe earlier this year.

          • Reality.Bites

            I guess they didn’t read my Christmas list.

    • Gyeo

      Invigorating voters of color is the key to Trumps defeat. The know this too, unfortunately.

  • Octavio

    Obviously, the DNC and the government needs to hire legions of 12 year-olds who can counter hack as well as write spiffy, impossible to crack encryption software to correct various networks. Our next door neighbors’ kid is available.

  • Reginald Thorkinson

    If it’s really true that Russia is tampering with our democracy, we are left with two options: Acquiescence or retaliation in kind.

    • Bruno

      Maybe we just keep our tampering secret? The Russians don’t seem to care at all that we’re onto them.

      • Reginald Thorkinson

        Nice power grid they have over there, it’d be a shame if anything happened to it.

        • trouble94114

          And you know, they have had some *minor* issues with some of their nuclear plants in the past.

        • Chucktech

          Ours is pretty nice, too…

          • Reginald Thorkinson

            That’s why our NSA, DARPA and various other agencies should be taking this very seriously.

      • Chucktech

        I would hope to sweet dead jesus our tampering is being kept as secret as it can be.

  • Acronym Jim

    *sigh*

    I suppose it’s about time I man up and watch Zero Days.

  • avidreader

    If anyone is perplexed by non-US citizens being here and asking questions regarding your elections: some of us are gay and living in Russia’s shadow every day so anything even remotely related to your elections matters to us greatly.

    Besides, it’s Hillary. I was rooting for her since I first saw her on TV in the 90s.

    • Gene

      welcome friend…post more often..know you are welcomed, and thank you, from afar, from your support for Clinton. you say you are in the shadow of Russia…Ukraine? the baltics? (are you comfortable answering?)
      in any case…I wish you well, and I THANK you for your wisdom and kind words. hopefully my own nation will have a majority of people who think as wisely as you do

      if you have questions…ASK AWAY…most folk here on this site and kind, and good, and well informed.

      except a guy named Bill Perdue. he is a old fool. ignore him. Everyone else does

      best wishes to you
      Gene

    • SoCalGal20

      Welcome! I hope the world will be able to breathe a sigh of relief on November 9.

    • fuzzybits

      Welcome. Here’s hoping things change for all of you soon.

  • Jim

    Hackers being Russian and the government of Russia engaging in hacking are two entirely different things. You’d think that our government would be taking pains to distinguish the two before careless and loose talk sets off an ugly international incident. Where’s the evidence that the Russian government is involved? There’s no shortage of American hackers stalking the internet but nobody’s silly enough to blame Obama for them. And why the heck can’t Democrats protect their computer systems to begin with? Are they just totally incompetent or what?

    • billbear1961

      I’ve read that two Russian government entities are involved.

      They’re quite sure of that.

      You’ll have to look for the info on the net yourself, because I’m tired and don’t feel like doing it for you; but I believe my memory is accurate (may not be TWO groups, but the Russian government is definitely suspected).

      • Jim

        I’ve read the same accounts. They’re full of suspicions and accusations, but nobody is offering actual evidence–that is, demonstrated facts and data. Where’s the evidence? Certainty requires evidence to substantiate it. If they’ve got evidence, present it to us. We the citizens ought to know. “Suspected” is NOT evidence. How can they be certain if they don’t have evidence? Why should I accept accusations if there’s no evidence presented to support them?

        • SoCalGal20

          They’re doing their investigation. They’re not going to set out all the specifics while they’re actively investigating. But we know from the DNC hack it was the Russians.

          http://motherboard.vice.com/read/all-signs-point-to-russia-being-behind-the-dnc-hack

          • Jim

            “The Russians.” What does that mean? The hackers were Russian? Or that the Russian government was hacking? There’s a big difference here. The first is a crime involving individuals. The second is espionage and sabotage that border on an act of war. See the difference? That’s why we’ve got to be careful here and deal with demonstrated facts, not mere accusations.

          • SoCalGal20

            It’s espionage, Jim. Hackers from two different Russian government entities were ID’d. Did you read the Vice article I linked?

    • Friday

      Frankly, Russia’s got a pattern of interfering in foreign elections, they just haven’t done so in the US cause they haven’t had Trump criminally seeking out foreign donations and seeming to have a base that’s impervious to facts, even about something like a foreign dictator ratfucking US elections for a Trump he supports.

    • SoCalGal20

      I’ll take a professional’s word fot it that the Russian government is ordering/orchestrating these hacks. About the DNC hack:

      Then, in early May, the DNC called in CrowdStrike, a security firm that specializes in countering advanced network threats. After deploying their tools on the DNC’s machines, and after about two hours of work, CrowdStrike found “two sophisticated adversaries” on the Committee’s network. The two groups were well-known in the security industry as “APT 28” and “APT 29.” APT stands for Advanced Persistent Threat—usually jargon for spies.

      CrowdStrike linked both groups to “the Russian government’s powerful and highly capable intelligence services.” APT 29, suspected to be the FSB, had been on the DNC’s network since at least summer 2015. APT 28, identified as Russia’s military intelligence agency GRU, had breached the Democrats only in April 2016, and probably tipped off the investigation.

      http://motherboard.vice.com/read/all-signs-point-to-russia-being-behind-the-dnc-hack

      Btw, this is a bit of a long read but fascinating and well worth it.

      • ultragreen

        Anyone could be responsible for these hacks. The e-mail and other accounts of James Clapper, the Senior Intelligence Official of the U.S. government, has been successfully hacked by a mere teenager (or a group of them):

        http://motherboard.vice.com/read/teen-who-hacked-cia-email-is-back-to-prank-us-spy-chief

        Clapper has recently stated that the U.S. government has not determined with sufficient certainty to say who has hacked the files of the Democratic Party, notwithstanding the allegations of private consultants. If these consultants are so knowledgeable about who is responsible for these hacking attacks, it seems to me they could have prevented these attacks from occurring in the first place. Apparently the hackers are smarter than them.

  • billbear1961

    Lymis says they can subpoena the BASTARD’S tax returns.

    And, on another thread, David Caster posted this reply to me:

    Do keep in mind that Trump’s tax returns are in the hands of the IRS. The FBI and CIA can easily gain access to them under the euphemistically named USA Freedom Act, which replaced the Patriot Act.

  • Gene

    there is ONE….perhaps just one POSITIVE from this.
    among my republican associates at work..and others, I have said this in response to hacking questions “foreign opperatives are no friends of the US, yes?” “oh course! I mean…hell no…not friends at all!”…”and they are trying to attack and weaken WHICH candidate,so that they can deal with the other candidate…”…

    crickets
    silence
    crickets
    eyes pop..
    looks of “oh my fucking GOD!”
    crickets

    “holy shit…the Russians want Trump to win”
    “yeah” I say “What the fuck does THAT tell you?”

    looks of HORROR!

    I admit..being a cold hearted son of a bitch, I am enjoying their reactions
    its made two (of a group of about 10…woo hoo) tell me they are voting for the liberataran now. not Clinton (a bridge too far)…but..thats two fewer trump votes…and I am pointing this out to people from the Cherokee Town Club to dinner parties in Buckhead to luncheons in Sandy Springs (Georgians are seeing the significance of these locations) with the SAME effect…and, I am hardly alone

    This….hurts…..Trump…Thats a good thing

    • Brilliant, Gene. I hope you keep it up.

    • IamM

      How the fuck can anyone not see that for themselves? Even without Trump’s Russian ties and the hacking etc, just ask yourself ‘If I were a foreign leader who wanted to weaken US influence in my region, who would I want to be the US President?’.

  • Christopher

    Well Anonymous, it’s time for you to get to work.

    I’m sure there is a trail that leads back to Trump somewhere in all of this mess.

    • Steverino

      Yes! Where are they?

  • pch1013

    I guess I’ll be mailing checks from now on, instead of donating online.

  • Ninja0980

    I think it’s obvious at this point Putin wants Trump to win.

    • Friday

      Among several others, none of whom are exactly thought of as good guys.

    • Of course. Just guessing here, but I’ll wager Trump owes Russian banks hundreds of millions of dollars.

      He had to turn somewhere after the 2007/08 real estate crash, and the legit banks with only one exception blackballed him.

      • Steverino

        And that one exception is Deutsche Bank, which is on the verge of ruin.

      • Reality.Bites

        My father used to say, quoting I don’t know who, “If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you have a problem if you can’t pay. If you owe the bank a million dollars, they have a problem if you can’t pay.”

        I’m not sure who I hope is the one with the problem in his case.

    • pch1013

      Yep. The US political “news” on his propaganda mouthpiece RT is all Hillary-bashing, all the time.

  • Hank

    Perhaps it is time to Freeze MORE of Russian assets, than we already have done!!!

  • DaddyRay

    Do I need to worry about the credit cards I used when I donated?

    • coram nobis

      Probably should check your account.

  • avidreader

    Instead of taking care of his shithole of a country, Putin is throwing money into Trump. I hope this backfires magnificently and makes even more people vote for Hillary.

    • coram nobis

      And vote down-ticket. The DCCC hack suggests real danger for the party.

  • coram nobis

    Ты говоришь по-английски?

    • Sam_Handwich

      would you like borscht with that?

      • coram nobis

        No, Beef Strelnikov instead.

  • Traxley Launderette

    You just KNOW the mouth-breathing Trumpkin mob will get it all wrong and insist that Hillary’s server with 30,000 classified emails was hacked while she was out selling uranium to Iran.

    • Lazycrockett

      The Drumpf supporters will blame the media and believe they are making it up.

  • KnownDonorDad

    I guess they didn’t realize the Manchurian candidate was being sarcastic.

  • Sam_Handwich

    DoJ? hello

  • JCF

    Like I said before, you can tell people by their friends…and their enemies.

    http://cdn.chud.com/f/fe/900x900px-LL-fe045318_putin-crying.gif-270×202.jpeg

  • Lazycrockett

    OT Hillary is on MSNBC @ a rally in Harrisburg,PA.

  • Steven B

    Am I the only one or is anyone else concerned as to exactly what might turn up from this hack? What if there is some connection that the campaign knew about the biases of the DNC? Or something along those lines.

    • SoCalGal20

      I’m not really concerned about that because I think we would have had some evidence of that with the DNC leak. I’m more concerned that they have access to the Clinton campaign’s strategy with regards to Drumpf and sensitive donor information.

  • Here is where Assange / Putin screwed up (and if anyone does not think they are in cahoots they are blind). Their impact on the left was a success, they embarrassed Hillary Clinton, they reinforced a conviction among some of the Sanders supporters to never vote for Clinton, they took a news cycle away from Tim Kaine’s announcement. But this is what they did not expect — a complete backlash by the “foreign policy establishment” wing of the Republican Party against what is perceived as Putin’s meddling in U.S. Politics. For every vote lost on Hillary’s left, one is gained from the Republican mainstream. In fact, if these Russian hacks keep up at Wikileaks, it will become downright treasonous to speak of them glowingly. Assange might be powerful — but his achilles heel complete lack of any Machiavellian subtlety in his timing, or his understanding of American sense of fairplay and patriotism.

  • houstonray

    Could there be an “October Surprise”…..but not the one we are fearing (i.e. something negative with Hillary) but instead a link directly back to Trump and his campaign, just days before the election?

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Anonymous should hack the RNC. They won’t because they actually have standards, but they should. Or Anonymous should go after Putin.

  • SoCalGal20

    Good news! ActBlue says they have not been hacked.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/actblue-dccc-hack

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