FLORIDA: Over 100 Sanders Supporters Sue DNC And Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz For Election Fraud

From South Florida’s New Times:

Amid allegations that Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz “rigged” the Democratic presidential primary in favor of Hillary Clinton, 120 people, including 104 Bernie Sanders donors, sued both Wasserman Schultz and the DNC in the Southern District Court of Florida yesterday for fraud, negligence, misrepresentation, and other claims. They alleged she misled the DNC and Sanders donors into thinking she was “impartial.”

The suit comes after a group of Russian hackers published emails they claim show the DNC had, since May 2015, been planning strategies to help Hillary Clinton defeat Donald Trump in the general election. The suit cites DNC bylaws, which state that the chairperson “shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns,” and that the chair is responsible for ensuring DNC officers and staff “maintain impartiality.”

See the full lawsuit here. (Tipped by JMG reader Larry)

  • OH GOOD FREAKING FSM. YOU LOST. GET. OVER. IT.

    Does DWS need to go? Yes, she needs to be gone several years ago. This, however, is just plain stupid and petty.

    • Reality.Bites

      At this point I’m more like Bernie, drop dead already.

      • Really? No, we don’t need to be wishing death on our enemies, sarcastically or not. Drop out? Yes please.

        • dr morbius

          Enemies, huh?

          #NeverTrump #NeverClinton

          • Oh, frak off.

          • barracks9

            “Frak off”? Is that you, Starbuck? 馃檪

          • joe ho

            lol.

            we’ve already taken care of #neverbernie.

        • Reality.Bites

          “Drop dead” is an old expression that is rarely used to convey an actual desire for the death of the person. It was more popular, I think in times where more colourful expressions like “Eat shit” or “Fuck off” couldn’t be used in print or broadcast media. You could get away with telling an annoying sibling to drop dead in many families where telling them to F-off would lead to serious trouble.

          In this particular case, the word drop reminded me of it.

      • JustSayin’

        Why dont yoy drop dead? Bernie lost and his followers are obeying his commands to act like trump…you need to grow the fuck up

        • Reality.Bites

          ??? WTF did I do?

    • Jonty Coppersmith

      Problem is that President Obama likes her and wants her in that position. I assume after the election HRC will appoint a new person to that position.

      • I’d love to see Joe Biden in that role.

        • Jonty Coppersmith

          Hell, I’d love to see him as VP again, but he would be a great DNC leader. Not sure what he plans are though.

      • danolgb

        Actually, Hillary has already appointed that person. His name is Brandon Davis. He was the National Political Coordinator for SEIU. He’s taken over effectively setting the agenda for the convention.

  • PickyPecker
    • greenmanTN

      You’ve gotta love Jessica Walters. Being a bitch for 50 years is hard. I have only been doing it for 30 years and I’m worn out! 馃檪

      • MT YVR

        Reminds me of the whole “If I had money I’d be eccentric, as it is I can only afford bugnut crazy.” thing. 馃槈

      • Todd20036

        But are you a tease? Are you a goddess on your knees?

      • Good Shot Green

        First time I saw her was in PCU, then later I saw Play Misty for Me wherein she was hella psycho. Luv her.

        • greenmanTN

          Look up the Dr Strange TV movie. Jessica Walters as Morgan LeFey. Even Camp was sitting on fhe couch eating popcorn, thinking “Well that was a bit much!”

          • Good Shot Green

            Teh google sends me to its wiki page. Strange indeed.

            A comic-book movie? From seventies teevee? I’m sure she’s faboo in it but I don’t think I’ll be seeking it out. (Gah, how tired am I of superhero movies.)

          • greenmanTN

            It’s just goofy fun. 1970s moustache hunk versus Jessica Walters’ arched eyebrows. It’s a tie!

          • JerryRich

            Well, I am going to see Captain America: Civil war and X-Men: Apocalypse tomorrow. So there!

    • 2karmanot

      Looks like she just made an ooopsie

  • Lakeview Bob

    Is this even a viable lawsuit? Doesn’t seem logical to me.

    • tcinsf

      No.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Agree with tcinsf. Also, see my post upthread

  • TK

    O M F G!

    Won’t these people fuck off already??

    Edit: You know what? No…I can’t wait for these assholes to be schooled in court.

      • Gene

        pastemagazine = toilet paper

        • GOod comeback!!!

          • Todd20036

            Appropriate. A far left pro bernie rag equates hillary and trump. Film at 11

          • Miji

            Exactly. – equates Hillary with Trump by buying into every bullshit right-wing talking point that Republics have spewed about her for the last 25 years. There were some interesting points even if composed largely of questionable interpretations of motivations. The last 10 step psychoanalysis was so dripping with projection that it went totally off the rails. Finally, to top it off, the top die-hard Bernie supporting commenter is apparently much more a Hillary hater than an actual progressive because she thinks she would be better off voting for Trump.

          • Gene

            1) yes..because its accurate
            2) it has at this time, more support that your comments…which, as always, are based on delusion and dreams, anger and childishness, and a terrifying immarturity

          • 2karmanot

            If only you knew who is Heimaey, your projections would have you thrown out with the garbage where you and your infantile cracked-pot remarks belong.

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            Do tell, inquiring minds want to know.

          • JustSayin’

            So you claim some special knowledge of another Internet troll like yourself? Good to know.

          • danolgb

            Sock puppets?

          • DaveW

            Delusion. Ha ha ha ha ha. Like sky fairies????

          • Jeffrey

            You know what would be a really good comeback? If you didn’t.

      • drtrmiller

        It’s a fantastic and extremely accurate article. Very well-written.

        “It鈥檚 a pretty impressive act of self-delusion. This is how certain progressives, faced with a real chance to change the country, have betrayed their own politics鈥攁nd in many cases, their own generation鈥攁nd handed the presidential election to neoliberals that will inevitably disappoint them.”

        • Cuberly

          Gee, that sounds oddly familiar.

          https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/62131366.jpg

          • Todd20036

            In this case, what is there to be against? You either want Hillary as President, or you do not. It’s not going to be Bernie.

          • Cuberly

            The progressive purity police. When I read articles like that I wonder if the authors have ever ventured into a bright red state, or the south for that matter. Things are more complicated in real life is what I’m getting at.

            I have some friends that are rather rabid “progressives”, sometimes it’s a little much to hear the perpetually aggrieved shame everyone within a 100 mile radius.

          • cleos_mom

            Or reminiscent of a reality show classic:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XBc7OYdSWQ

      • Carl

        Got any good Breitbart articles while you’re at it? An echo chamber is an echo chamber.

      • JCF

        “The Psychology of Why Hillary Clinton Supporters are Still So Angry at Bernie Sanders”

        LOL.

        http://icdn6.digitaltrends.com/image/jvc-projector-1500×841.jpg?ver=1

    • EdmondWherever

      Not enough cactus spines.

    • Jeffrey

      Shouldn’t that come in a suppository?

  • barracks9

    DWS, impartial? That’s laughable. Proof that she rigged the primaries in Hillary’s favor? Dubious, at best.

    And I’m not saying they aren’t trustworthy, but I’m not so sure I’d take the word of Russian hackers on this.

    • Jonty Coppersmith

      Not to mention that DWS would have had to be able to influence precinct leaders and state board of elections officials to cheat, that or she would have had to have hacked the machines or something. These people are delusional.

      • barracks9

        The list of reasons for disliking or distrusting DWS is long, but the items you mentioned are even in the running.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Plus, I have my doubts that any serious strategizing against tRump was happening last May. It didn’t look probably that he’d win anything back then.

      • One suspects there were also emails about strategy against other possible nominees and also that those strategies would still be useful should someone other than Clinton get the nomination. There’s nothing here but the DNC doing their job.

    • Joseph Miceli

      I agree wholeheartedly with you. I said much the same thing and the usual trolls attacked me, though. Get ready, Buddy!

  • Corsair Tact

    How can a person who isn’t a member of the party run in the party’s primaries? Does anyone know?

    • TK

      The leadership of the party gave their approval.

      • Corsair Tact

        Thanks!

    • 2karmanot

      Think of it this way ( read The Society of the Spectacle first Google it) Bernie was allowed into the party to run as a bit of classicism giving a final last nod and breath of the New Deal and Great Society that were up until Billo Clinton the core of the Party’s principles. With Bernie’s defeat the Corporate/Oligarchy DEMOS can finally say that the old ways were given a fair hearing. Hillary’s ascendancy with the mythic of some heraldic feminism as bunting will come the final last nail in the coffin of those programs and the finally establishment of global corporatism. .

      • JustSayin’

        More tripe from the intentionally stupid

  • tcinsf

    I’m thinking this thread is shortly going to be proving why the “block” function is so lovely!

    • PickyPecker
    • Tulle Christensen

      Thanks for reminding me I use it so seldom

    • I’ve got entire threads as “blocked” “blocked” “blocked” in here right now.

      • PickyPecker

        You’re not missing much…sortof the usual, actually. Meme wars should be heating up soon.

    • Good Shot Green

      It’d be nice if it showed who you’re blocking, like someone you’ve blocked tries to respond to you but gets an error message.

      Every one I’ve decided to block, when I go to their disqus page, I see “This user’s activity is private.” Confirmation that my decision is right.

  • Gustav2

    Please explain how this is necessary or helpful.

    • MrSkippy

      Well it’s certainly useful from the GOP point of view.

      Although I suspect that’s not what you meant.

    • WE WANT OUR SPESHUL SNOWFLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

      • Gustav2

        “since May 2015, been planning strategies to help Hillary Clinton defeat Donald Trump in the general election.”

        THEY WERE PLANNING HOW TO BEAT BERNIE!…oh, wait, it was Trump.

        • Was Bernie even in the race at that point?

          • Gustav2

            The 2016 presidential campaign of Bernie Sanders, the junior United States Senator and former Representative from Vermont, began with a formal announcement by Sanders on May 26, 2015, in Burlington, Vermont, which followed an informal announcement on April 30.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign,_2016

          • That’s what I thought; thanks. So no polling, no fundraising, no nothing until the end of May. Of fucking course the DNC was going to focus on Hillary vs. the GOP’s loudest voice.

          • Gustav2

            And Sen Sanders was at 1%.

          • Todd20036

            Sanders IS the 1%

    • Gerry Fisher

      “…but…but…we’re *right*!”

  • Blake Mason

    SO much for unity.

  • Sam_Handwich

    it think it’s highly unlikely that the federal courts will get involved in an intraparty spat.

    • Agreed.

    • Cuberly

      I’m trying to gauge what the desired lfippin outcome of the lawsuit would be in the first place.

      That DWS resign 4 mos before the election? Yeah, tht’d be a smart move.

      Sounds like the people that filed the suit don’t care if Trump wins.

  • Harvey888

    Crazier than a swarm of bedbugs and just as irritating.

  • Finally voter fraud made it here.

    • Gene

      noo…a ridiculous and unfounded delusion by fools following an old fool who needs to be verbally bitch slapped and told to shut the fuck up and then solidly endorse Clinton, soon to be tossed out of court, and only helping makes news for fascists, was reported on here.

      nothing more

      • He’ll never endorse her and why should she? She’s not a liberal.

        • joe ho

          lol.

          Jill stein agrees with 99% of Bernie’s positions. and with 91% of Hillary’s. Hillary’s a progressive. just not a maoist.

          • Capritaur

            I lost all respect for Jill Stein when she repeated lies about election rigging. At least Bernie hasn’t done that, but his passive permission of his fans doing it isn’t much better.

          • joe ho

            she’s a bottom feeder.

          • Gyeo

            If Stien actually gave a shit about change, she’d appear more than just every 4 years and actually do things.

        • Todd20036

          It’s ok. Bernie isn’t a democrat.

      • 2karmanot

        Gene, in another time would be wearing a brown shirt and bitch slapping patriots.

    • Gustav2

      Is that you Secretary of State of Ohio Jon A. Husted(R)?

      • 2karmanot

        Is this a trick trivia question? Well, certainly trivia at any rate.

    • Capritaur

      Aww the princes didn’t get what she wanted for a change, it must have been stolen! Heads are gonna roll!

      • princes?

        • Capritaur

          That’s your retort? A swipe keyboard typo?

          • I don’t know what you mean by princes?

          • Capritaur

            Lol.

  • joe ho

    …..

    • 2karmanot

      died from Hillery’s killer breath

      • HZ81

        Good one. No, really. Seriously.

      • Highmoremotel

        Dead none the less.

      • joe ho

        /////

      • HAAAAAAA

        died from the lack of Political Oxygen

  • Scott Fitler

    How does this help anyone in any way? Is the end game that Debbie magically admits to fraud and there’s a do-over and Bernie magically wins the nomination? If this election is proving anything, it’s that too many Americans (on all sides) are just unbelievably ignorant.

    • I’ve seen people claim that if nobody gets a majority of the popular vote, there’s a run-off election. o_O;

      • lymis

        Those people should consider reading the Constitution.

        • Reality.Bites

          Just a newspaper would do.

          • 2karmanot

            I think distracting games on the backs of cereal boxes will entertain most Hillary Hairballs.

          • Jonty Coppersmith

            Only if the newspaper does its damn job and educates people on facts and truth. I read an editorial by Christianne Amanpour (sic?) this morning in which she blasted the media for not speaking truth to the xenophobes and fascists who supported Brexit. She was spot on in her analysis. The media these days seem incapable of saying flat out “That is a lie.”

    • hiker_sf

      It would be helpful for the Democrats to dump DWS. Her going against Obama on the deal with Iran, and regulating payday loan businesses are just two of many examples of how she is out of step.

      As for this lawsuit, it will move forward. I’m not sure what will become of it.

      Fuck Debbie Wasserman-Schultz

      DNC Chair Joins GOP Attack On Elizabeth Warren鈥檚 Agency

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-paylenders-cfpb_us_56d4ce38e4b03260bf77e8fc

      • Jonty Coppersmith

        No need to have a big to do about DWS as she will be gone in January anyway.

  • Blake Jordan

    Unless there is evidence that votes were ignored or changed, which they weren’t so their isn’t, SHIT like this is just PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Gustav2

      And the wee folks don’t understand the Parties are private entities, not a government program. They can make their own rules and follow them at will.

    • they really have no idea what they’re supposed to be going. there goes their chances.

  • YouCommiePinko

    I don’t suspect it’ll go far but the Democratic Party ruling class should make note of this and realize there’s widespread discontent and anger out there even among Democratic voters and potential Democratic voters. It would be easy to write it off as sour grapes or isolated to Sanders’ supporters, but the reality is that these are revolutionary times. They’ll ignore all the warnings anyway.

    • Sam_Handwich

      if being the Democratic party’s presidential nominee was so fucking important to
      Sanders why did he wait until last year when he was 108 to finally join
      the party?

      • YouCommiePinko

        I’m sorry you said something relevant to what I wrote?

        • Sam_Handwich

          Bernie is not a Democrat. We don’t care about his supporter’s inane tantrums.

          Have fun with your fantasy “revolution”.

          • ryan charisma

            what Sam said – we don’t want your bullshit.

          • YouCommiePinko

            My bullshit isn’t dropping bombs on kids in the Middle East.

          • joe ho

            lol.

            you prefer to sing kumbaya with terrorists before they cut off your head.

          • 2karmanot

            I imagine YCP would rather head off ignorant trolls like you before you do some real grownup damage.

          • joe ho

            lol.

            lucky for us grown-up voters have headed off the damage ignorant juvenile bernie-bot-bois like you tried to do in this election cycle. the left’s version of the tea party has been marginalized and defanged.

          • 2karmanot

            Bingo

          • JustSayin’

            Guess what? You deserve to be exiled to the middle east You amd your ilk are un-American.

          • YouCommiePinko

            You’ll care when they become a force to be reckoned with, unless you really do truly believe that Democrats are addressing working class and poor issues adequately enough to nullify widespread anger.

            When I say revolution I mean revolution, not talking about Sanders’ so called “political revolution.”

          • Sam_Handwich

            i’m stapling teabags to my tri-corn hat even as i type!

          • PickyPecker

            ::

          • 2karmanot

            Oh Picky! Seriously? Chic Fill E. ?….that’s called the Stockhausen Syndrome.

          • YouCommiePinko

            Look outside your damn window.

          • Sam_Handwich

            omg….grass….and a TREE!

          • PickyPecker

            I see a rather studly construction worker. Can we use him?

          • 2karmanot

            I see a Warehouse worker

          • YouCommiePinko

            #FightFor15
            #BlackLivesMatter
            #MillionStudentMarch
            Brexit
            ISIS
            Student protests in France
            Student protests in UK
            Teacher protests in Mexico
            Brazil coup
            Honduras coup
            Venezeula on the brink

            These. Are. Revolutionary. Times. The system is under strain and you think this is about Sanders? haha.

          • Tulle Christensen

            omg a coup in Latin America, when has that ever happened before
            Still waiting on you getting out in the hot sun and throwing rocks at the police
            No US student protest? Why not?
            I am old I get to just sit here an type. You go and do. I did mine long ago

          • YouCommiePinko

            Yeah, did you forget all the US interventionism in Latin America protested against in the 60’s? We never stopped.

          • joe ho

            ””’

          • 2karmanot

            Oh Joe, tinfoil is so yesterday and 90’s, even more outdated than a Mullet.

          • joe ho

            lol.

            appropriate for sanders nonsense which is so 1930s.

          • joe ho

            ……

          • YouCommiePinko

            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • JustSayin’

            Idiots like you have been saying that for centuries around the globe. You and they are ineffectual losers. Whiny ass pansies who deserve to have your life taken as you cower in your own piss and shit.

          • 2karmanot

            Have fun with your neo-liberal Clinton oligarchy. I suspect you’ll be eating crow sandwich in no time. Unless of course you are a corporate Blue Dog.

          • Todd20036

            As much as I’d love to listen to your baseless malarky, I think it’s time I block you.

          • Tulle Christensen

            I just wnat the right judges on the surprime court. cannot have that with Trump

          • 2karmanot

            True…don’t worry Dtrumpf won’t win.

          • Tulle Christensen

            he does not understand there will be no such thing until he gets out into the streets to get it going

          • YouCommiePinko

            You don’t even know my views about revolution, what it means in the context of the US right now, nor how I believe it starts or doesn’t start. So what are you basing your comment on?

          • JustSayin’

            Your blatantly stupid posts.

    • joe ho

      lol.

      according to cnn 2/3 of bernie supporters have already come around to hillary.

      the far-left maoist bernie die hards aren’t needed.

      • YouCommiePinko

        Once again my point isn’t being addressed. Nobody is talking about Maoists or anything of the sort.

        • joe ho

          your point is being addressed.

          hillary already has 2/3 of bernie supporters.

          her lead in the polls shows that the anger you speak of is mainly in the trump followers. most angry dems have made their peace with hillary.

    • Tulle Christensen

      As a Bernie supporter till it was Obvious he would not win. You are an idiot

      • YouCommiePinko

        Where did I say he would win or can win? You clearly didn’t comprehend what I wrote. Do I have to break it down further?

        This is a warning shot to Democrats. Forget fucking partisan politics for a second and realize people are angry out there.

        • Tulle Christensen

          you need to get out of your echo chamber there is no widespread discontent and anger. It is just the small group you hang with

          • YouCommiePinko

            No widespread anger and discontent? You’re daft. Look outside your damn window.

          • Tulle Christensen

            Its raining a bit and it is hot and humid outside.

          • Tulle Christensen

            I lived through the 60s I know what it looks like.

          • YouCommiePinko

            Good for you. Did you forget what it looks like? Last I checked people are still dying in the streets, queers are getting beat up, and the police state is even more entrenched and dangerous.

            But maybe YOU’RE doing fine.

          • joe ho

            …….

          • Tulle Christensen

            So why go to court? get hit with fire hozes, go to the Dem convention and get smacked in the head by the police. Get lynched in Mississippi case you think a monirty needs thier rights, Go to St. Augistine and protest there when you are only 12 years old?
            You saw a small bit in the House last week.
            Yea go to court. If only we could have done that
            Oh you are welcome by the way that at least now when you get beat up you can go to the police

          • 2karmanot

            Is your pantsuit made of tulle?

          • Tulle Christensen

            no my tool is made of tulle

          • 2karmanot

            scratchy uuk

          • 2karmanot

            Same here, while you in the Young Goldwater brigade, we were cheering Che.

          • joe ho

            lol.

          • YouCommiePinko

            You’re seriously going to tell me who I hang with or not? Bye then.

        • joe ho

          ;;;;;

          • YouCommiePinko

            &%$&&$&$&$%&%$&&%&%$&$

      • 2karmanot

        And you my dear would in Viche terms be considered a collaborator.

    • danolgb

      Bernie overstates the loyalty of his supporters.

      “Overall, 81 percent of Sanders backers have rallied to Clinton, surpassing the 74 percent of Clinton supporters in 2008 who fell in behind Barack Obama. By any measure, the Democratic Party is unified.”
      http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/bernie_sanders_blew_it.html

      • YouCommiePinko

        I don’t believe Sanders ever stated anything or is directing the above lawsuit. I’m only suggesting this is part of a broader pattern of discontent.

        But partisan Democrats seem more interested in the *horse race* and not about the actual underlying issues causing the manifestations we witness in politics.

        • danolgb

          Yes, the underlying issues is a delusional candidate with a handful of delusional followers. He’ll be lucky if they let him through the door in Philadelphia.

          • YouCommiePinko

            The underlying issues are a population bled dry by multinational corporations and predatory financial institutions at a time of a planetary crisis and existential threat to the entire fucking species. Politics is broken.

          • danolgb

            Sorry you don’t have a job. I do.

          • YouCommiePinko

            I have a job too. What is your point?

          • danolgb

            Oh.. so, how much of your paycheck comes from a multinational corporation. If any of it is, you’re not pure enough for Bernie.

          • YouCommiePinko

            Oh wow a nice right-wing argument. haha.

          • 2karmanot

            Well, isn’t that special.

          • JustSayin’

            Then solve the problem…remove yourself from this mortal coil…problem solved.

          • YouCommiePinko

            Gays telling other gays to kill themselves? Fuck off.

          • 2karmanot

            If you think the New Deal and the Great Society is/was delusional and Bernie’s life’s work for human rights is also delusional then YOU are part of the problem.

          • danolgb

            Bernie’s life work for human rights?! Oh you slay me. He stopped that once he became a mayor and started living off the taxpayer.

          • YouCommiePinko

            Are you a winger? What’s wrong with public service? Are you seriously going to denigrate people who devote themselves to public service now?

          • danolgb

            Bernie hasn’t done an effective damn thing for human rights since he was elected. He’s ultimately a pretty lazy legislator. He’s argue for things that aren’t on the table and reject the progressive step in front of him.

          • YouCommiePinko

            He argues for things not on the table and then works with progressives and conservatives to get things he wants towards his goals. He’s done this many times. VA Bill and the Community Health Care Clinics in the ACA come to mind.

            Stop with the right-wing code denigrating public servants.

          • danolgb

            Works with them.. Oh that’s a riot. He doesn’t work with anyone. That’s why he had so few supporters from Congress.

          • YouCommiePinko

            He’s worked with plenty of people. You’re in the Hillbot Bubble.

          • HAAAAAAA

            Names

          • YouCommiePinko

            Names? Seriously? He has a 30+ year in Congress and the Senate and you think he just twiddled his thumbs?

            Do you suppose he got billions in funding for community health care centers into the ACA by working with nobody? Do you suppose his VA bill was done through nothing but himself?

            He has a long history (http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you) of getting amendments passed into law as well. I suppose he did this all by himself without working with anybody?

            McCain has commented on their shouting matches, but willingness to work together. Now, McCain even got praised by Hillary Clinton in 2008 (saying he was more experienced than Obama) so I suppose that’s a good enough name.

          • Reality.Bites

            He’s lucky whenever his head fits through a door.

    • JustSayin’

      Bernie is and always has been a Trotsky socialist, nothing more. Those that fo!low him only wnat what they think is their fair share, which amounts to taking everything from everyone else and giving it to them.

  • Blake Jordan

    How many of these “bernie supporters” are being paid with rethuglican money to pull this shit…

    • YouCommiePinko

      You’re going off the deep end now.

      • Gustav2

        Irony Alert.

    • 2karmanot

      If you still can at this late stage, pull your head out of your ass, and see the light.

    • Reality.Bites

      That would depend who they are – are they people who worked at reasonably high levels in the Sanders campaign, who would know Sanders and his inner circle personally, or is it a bunch of no-name unknowns with no connection to him or low-level employees or volunteers.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    Sore losers. At least this will help prepare us for what Trump will no doubt pull when he loses.

    • 2karmanot

      Sore losers huh?I suspect you would know.

      • RainbowPhoenix

        Seeing as I voted for Sanders, yes, I can recognize when his supporters are being sore losers.

  • Jamie_Johnson

    If this proceeds, perhaps it’s time for DWS to take another look at how Bernie’s folks broke into Hillary’s confidential voter records…

  • Tulle Christensen

    *sigh* I voted for Bernie in fhe Florida Primary. When it became obvious Clinton was gonna win, I became a super Hillary Clinton supporter.
    What is wrong with these poeple

    • DaveW

      What is wrong?, they liked bernie’s crazy policies

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      I always thought Hillary would win the nom and I think she will be President, but I too voted for Bernie in the primary to help nudge Hillary to the left, which Bernie did. He served his purpose.

  • crewman

    Could this possibly wait until after Donald Trump is defeated??

    • No, we need to keep Clinton and Trump out of office.

      • RainbowPhoenix

        The only world where both of them will be kept out of office is in your delusional fantasies.

        • 2karmanot

          I fantasize that you and other Hillary Hairballs don’t exist.

          • HAAAAAAA

            .,.,.

          • 2karmanot

            I think ya got it covered bubba.

          • HAAAAAAA

            Unlike you!!!

          • RainbowPhoenix

            I voted for Sanders. Nice try, though.

      • Gene

        stupid is not a good look on you heimaey

        yet, you never change it

        • HAAAAAAA

          stupid is as stupid does

        • Gene, you ignorant slut.

          • TuuxKabin

            Heimaey, I rarely, if ever, agree with you, but I am sorry there is so much name calling and insults directed to you, principally because I didn’t see you insulting or name calling on anyone.

          • Thanks – I don’t think it’s a hard thing to ask people. I mean I know my opinion is the minority on here but I should be able to speak without insults being thrown around immediately.

          • 2karmanot

            But Heimaey it’s Ok to stir up the rabble occasionally, being congeniality Morlocks they need to see a bit of light, even if they don’t understand it. Because they lack manners, civility, and intelligence it’s quite OK to speak the guttural utterances they grunt out as a sign of kindness to them.

        • 2karmanot

          Heimaey is merely ( out of pity for you) condescending to amuse you Gene.

      • HAAAAAAA

        A delusion is a belief that is held with
        strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a
        pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete
        information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of
        perception.

        Fits you like a glove.

        • HAAAAAAAAA

          • HAAAAAAA
          • What else can I say? You guys on here don’t really speak to me rationally. I state my opinion and you call me names and throw insults at me. You can’t logically have a debate about this stuff; you just want me to be on your side on this issue and I’m not so there we are.

          • HAAAAAAA

            .-.

          • So again, a name call and no real substance. I’ll take it that’s the extent of your talents.

          • HAAAAAAA

            “substance”

            You won’t recognize substance if it pissed on you.

          • Thanks.

          • HAAAAAAA

            No trouble at all.

            I am just sad you lost your brain, hope you find it soon.

          • Thanks.

          • 2karmanot

            If you lose yours just find it up your ass.

          • 2karmanot

            Yawn….NEXT!

          • 2karmanot

            Never underestimate the stupidity , ignorance and venality of the American peasantry my dear Heimaey. You have my sympathies.

          • Thanks bb!

          • Capritaur

            Really? Arguing facts with you is pointless.

          • Awww a momento.

          • Capritaur

            What an impenetrable defense of reason and logic!

          • I’m sorry but I don’t see all of the conversation there and even if you were right and I was wrong, do I deserve to be treated like shit for my views and to be told constantly to go fuck off or get pissed on or wahtever else you guys say? You’re justifying treating anonymous people like crap on message boards because you may or may not be right about a calculation?

          • Capritaur

            A calculation? You’re being generous. For someone who constantly repeat lies around here, you have very little credible grievance for being treated like shit, let alone any right to portray yourself as the more rational or logical side of the debate.

          • Just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t mean you should a) treat them like shit or b) think they may not be rational. I don’t agree with you at all but I still think your opinion is valid.

          • Capritaur

            You’re still spinning it to look like you’re being treated like shit simply because people don’t agree with you. When people find issues with habitual dishonesty, that’s not called a disagreement.

          • I’ll make it easy for you. bye.

          • Capritaur

            That doesn’t mean I won’t continue to point out your lies.

          • 2karmanot

            Habitual Dishonesty huh….looks like your speciality

          • Capritaur

            Point to one instance of my dishonesty.

          • 2karmanot

            ppppfffttt

          • 2karmanot

            a Momento Mori certainly

        • 2karmanot

          you must be a Christian

      • joe ho

        lol.

        HRC has an 80% chance of winning.

        Read it and weep.

      • Jamie_Johnson

        Are you insane? No, really… if you can’t see the importance of electing Hillary (as if I need to enumerate; let’s suffice it to just leave it at the Supreme Court), seek some professional help. Now.

      • Carl

        Well, that’s the choice, so I guess you’re shit out of luck. Don’t vote if you can’t get your head out of the primary season. You’re a grown man/woman. You’re responsible for your own choices.

    • Reality.Bites

      No because it’s being filed by people who can’t accept Bernie’s not going to be the nominee.

      • 2karmanot

        Catch up, Bernie supporters know that. Bernie is trying to set a greater place at the Hillary neo-liberal table for ordinary folks.

        • lymis

          This is NOT the way to do that.

          • 2karmanot

            I agree…the fix has been long in. Time to go down ballot!

          • Carl

            Bernie fanatics are not famous for filling out the down ballot.

          • Reality.Bites

            Or the main one either.

        • RainbowPhoenix

          He screwed that one up with his pettiness.

  • lenvus

    Okay, so emails supposedly exist when demonstrate the Democratic National Committee had “since May 2015, been planning strategies to help Hillary Clinton defeat Donald Trump in the general election.” Gee, you think? Isn’t that the whole point of partisan politics? As a FORMER Sanders supporter, I would sure as shit hope his current supporters wish the same. Any person supporting the Democratic party would hopefully not want Trump in the White House come January 20, 2017. Regardless of DWS, coming together and fighting for anyone but Trump in 2017 is better than infighting, lawsuits, and other bullshit. Get over it already.

    • danolgb

      The weird thing about the “email” is it never did say who it was from. You would think an email would need to have that. It was also addressed strangely as to the Democratic National Committee.

      • Tulle Christensen

        Could it be, hmmm from Hillary’s email server….
        dun dun da

    • chris james

      A little research will show that Bernie didn’t decide he was a Democrat until November of 2015, he’s been an independent for years.

      • lenvus

        Yes, he was an Independent (that’s because he belonged to, or affiliated himself as a Socialist Democrat — in the style of the European Socialist Democratic party).

        Having said that, now that he has affiliated himself with the Democratic Party for this election, he as continued to remain so affiliated. As this is the case, he cannot simultaneously remain Democratic and Independent. If he is running on the Democratic ticket, then he is running on the DEMOCRATIC ticket. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

        • grada3784

          When I was growing up in NY, it was common for politicians to be on more than one party’s ticket.

          • LovesIrony

            whigs and federalists?

          • grada3784

            That was quite a low blow. Republican/Conservative and Democratic/Liberal. Third parties were more powerful in NY.

            BTW, Whigs and Federalists did not exist at the same time.

          • LovesIrony

            hey you set it right there on the tee for me.

          • Steven H

            Yeah that’s called electoral fusion. The candidate isn’t actually part of multiple parties, though. Small parties just agree (or decide on their own) to support another party’s candidate in order to increase their power (or prevent vote-splitting). That way the party can continue to exist as a party, but allow it’s members to vote for a (for lack of a better term) winning ticket. As far as I know, candidates can only run for, and voters can only register for, one party at a time… but I might be wrong.

            It’s not actually legal in several states; New York is one of the exceptions. Even if it was legal at the federal level, it’s more something that small parties do to remain relevant, rather than something that a large party would adopt for its own candidates.

          • Reality.Bites

            As best I can determine, it’s an ego boost of some sort to those in the parties. Instead of being nothing special in the Democratic or Republican party circles, you get to be a bigwig in the Liberal or Conservative parties

        • JustSayin’

          He has already re-registered as Indy for his next senate run.

        • Baby Dave

          Why bother having elections at all? We could just coronate her.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Hmmmm….diadem…tiara…diadem…tiara….no, I think Hillary has the gravitas to wear a crown. I know! Let’s ask Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I just KNOW she’ll be impartial! I mean, after she did such a good job with the debate schedule, and all the money she saved combining local Democratic party headquarters with Hillary campaign headquarters and allowing DNC officials to hold fundraisers for Clinton…why…who could have a problem with her? She’s “Saint Debbie of Wasserman Schultz,” patron saint of impartiality!

          • Baby Dave

            Why not declare her Pope?

          • Joseph Miceli

            No, for all her shortcomings, I don’t think Hillary is running a child prostitution ring.

          • Baby Dave

            Point made. That would be ironic, however, since the official Vatican policy translates into English from the Latin as, “No Child’s Behind Left”.

          • Joseph Miceli

            LOL, I’ll put that in the file where I keep the knowledge that the Pope wears a dress!

          • danolgb

            We had an election. He lost. He lost because more people liked her better.

      • 2karmanot

        You missed the point entirely

      • Joseph Miceli

        You are so right! Bernie should have run as a third party candidate, thereby peeling Progressives off from the Dems and ensuring a Trump presidency. Curse that evil Bernie Sanders! Why does he hate America!!!!!

        • danolgb

          That would have been fine. He would have had none of the support structures he used to run. What do you think the data was about? It was mailing lists that the DNC had built over years of campaigns. Bernie may not even have his seat in the Senate had the DNC not supported him. He even took $10K from Hillary’s PAC to get there.

          • Joseph Miceli

            See, that just shows me your irrational hatred of Bernie. There is NO universe where Bernie running as a third party candidate does not end in Donald Trump, and you are so invested in your irrational Bernie hate that you won’t even admit it. I think we are done “communicating.” It is pointless to do so with someone with Bernie Derangement Syndrome. Sad really, after Hillary suffered from it you’d think you’d have some empathy.

    • Baby Dave

      Nope. And fuck you.

    • Joe knows who I am.

      No. I won’t get over it.

      Regardless of any of the things that Clinton, or Sanders, or Trump, or Cruz, or anyone who runs for office in any capacity does or doesn’t do, I want fair and impartial elections from all parties from beginning to end. Otherwise we accept the whole thing as a farce. And, then I have to ask you, what the hell is even the point? Why even come on JMG to argue for or against any candidate?

      • danolgb

        We had a fair election. It’s just some people feel like Bernie was entitled to win and he didn’t and so they need someone to blame.

        • Joe knows who I am.

          Not quite. I live in AZ. There’ve been improprieties in every state either by Republicans or Democrats for years.

          • danolgb

            But he results of Arizona were well in line with the polls ahead of the vote. If anything, the reduction in polling places hurt Hillary more. Bernie wasn’t going to win Arizona.

          • Joe knows who I am.

            Nobody is going to win here except Drumpf.

        • Joe knows who I am.

          I still don’t feel the election was entirely fair but, I will agree with you that there are some who feel Bernie was entitled to win and Even I consider them to be immature.

  • Todd

    Bringing the Democratic party together ….
    That Bernie ….. he’ll be lucky if he’s able to get into the state of Pennsylvania the week of the Democratic convention ……

    • Stubenville

      He’ll be phoning in from the Vatican.

      • Reality.Bites

        Next time he flies economy!

  • WebSlinger
    • Carl

      I did what these people asked. I listened to what he had to say. There just wasn’t much substance beyond the stump speech and his administrative skills were horrendous. Most of his most vocal supporters were authoritarian fanatics with a weak grasp of the political process. Bernie lost because he scared people away, not because the primary was rigged. It’s over. Politics moves fast. It’s General election season. People who get stuck in a moment just get sidelined.

      • WebSlinger

        AGREED…many people paid attention to the fire and never digested what it takes to make the fire and maintain it.

        Bernie was a bolt out of the sky and he ignited many people but the process and the details were lost on many people as well Bernie.

        Once you have fire you have to determine how you can keep it and one way is to NOT go around burning things down under the guise that it is still “fire”…it is the embers that are critically important and then determining who can be responsible to carry on the responsibly

      • Gyeo

        I wouldn’t say he scared people. More like he (or his supporters) pissed people off. From the very beginning even when I was voting and donating for Sanders, I was telling other Bernie supporters to not alienate Blacks, Latino, women, and LGBT folks. And they did the opposite. The Bernie Bros made it abundantly clear that they didn’t care about the any other issues other then the economic one. And while they were the minority of Bernie supporters, the held all the power of that campaign. So not yeah basically he pissed away his chances and lost the majority of Latino and Black voters because of his own supporters.

      • cleos_mom

        In this case being stuck in a moment was somewhat like trying to sell a house or a car and holding out for an unrealistically high price until the prospect walks away.

    • 2karmanot

      Hello Kitty will fix it

  • Ninja0980

    Sour grapes much?

    • TK

      …with which they make whine

  • danolgb

    The Alex Jones types of the left who believe the DNC rigged an election with thousands of county clerks half of which are Republican. Thanks for looking just as stupid as those on the right, guys.

    • Gustav2

      In Ohio, our ballot counting supervisors are One Democrat and One Republican. IF there was anything going on the other side would use it.

    • Blake Jordan

      If they investigated for fraud, we would probably find out that bernie’s people had more stunts to steal the delegates in multiple states, like that failed plan in Nevada…

      • danolgb

        Nevada
        New Hampshire
        Puerto Rico

        Those are just the ones we know of.

      • 2karmanot

        sad

  • Ninja0980

    No court is going to entertain looking at stuff that was obtained illegally as grounds for a lawsuit.
    This lawsuit will be DOA.

    • danolgb

      No court is going to get involved with inter-party politics. They already threw out one suit like this.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      No federal court in the US has jurisdiction to hear this case, since Plaintiffs have no Article III standing

  • PickyPecker
  • 2karmanot

    Clearly, Wassermann-Schultz Queen of trolls has sent her flying monkey poo flingers to these threads.

  • Sanders….. Sanders…… Yes, I seem to remember a Sanders. This can’t be the same one, can it? I mean, why??? Doesn’t he have things to do? He’s still in the Senate, isn’t he? He’s not still like racing Clinton in his head, I hope. I hope this is just some of his team winding their way down into reality. You know. Some crying. Some depression. A few lawsuits. And ultimately resignation.

    • 2karmanot

      Yep, don’t forget that rare concept of ‘honor’ so missing in the American psyche these days. Bernie is fulfilling his promise to the 12 million who voted for his to carry the noble idea of the New Deal into the convention, before Killery and her putsch puts the last nail in the Great Society coffin once and for all.

      • joe ho

        lol.

        what happened to his promise to release his tax returns?

        70% of Sanders’ supporters have already transitioned to Hillary.

        he’s grandstanding.

      • Tulle Christensen

        so you gonna get the stuff in the plank by sueing? Good plan I am sure it will work

        • 2karmanot

          Don’t get your tulle in a bunch. Nothing will come of it.

      • lymis

        How does suing the DNC carry any ideas to the Convention?

        Specifically, how does it do anything that wholehearted support of the nominee WHILE espousing the liberal causes and working to bring all his supporters along wouldn’t do better?

      • Nigel

        As soon as you refer to Hillary Clinton as Killery, you lose. I would take the time to hear your message and consider your points but you lose. When you can address this as an adult please come back.

        • 2karmanot

          Oh please Mr. Manners don’t fuss over a typo.

  • HZ81

    Somebody call 9-1-1. I’ve injured myself eye-rolling .

    • margaretpoa

      Okay now THATS funny.

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    • Baby Dave

      Oh, right. Because bribery and voter fraud are zoo mundane. I mean, why don’t Americans just get over it? of COURSE the DNC is fucking corrupt, right/

      Jesus fucking Christ, why are these Sanders people asking us for clean government? Fuck that, I want to have all my political leaders deep int he pockets of Wall Street!

      • HZ81

        Aw, someone’s feelings are hurt they couldn’t win an election.

        Here’s an idea: next time, run a candidate who isn’t a pathetic boob and who has plans that actual withstand scrutiny. Oh, and one that can explain the when asked. That’d be a start.

        Or enjoy your conspiracy theories with your bros.

    • kevway

      ..

    • lucadrian

      DWS was Hillary’s campaign cochair back in ’08. Now, as the chairwoman of the DNC, what conflict of interest would there be in ensuring a presidential nomination without bias?

      There has to be a reason why the tea parties endorse the reelection of DWS. Wonder what it could be?

      • HZ81

        Yeah, DWS magically gave Hillary Clinton more votes after Bernie Sanders spent more money buy his.

        Enjoy your conspiracy theories.

        • lucadrian

          oh so now you tell me why DWS won’t speak at the DNC? Who’s the new DNC chair now?

          • HZ81

            I don’t know who the DNC chair is now. She won’t speak at the DNC because these emails show DNC staffers didn’t like Sanders. In May. Wonder why that is.

          • lucadrian

            She resigned from the position to be Hillary’s full time employee. She must have done a fantastic job as the head of the DNC to acquire such promotion. Pretty much the same job she has always been doing, this time just publicly so.

          • HZ81

            So she works for Hillary now? Really? And what position does she hold now? Do tell.

          • lucadrian

            “Honorary” chair of Hillary’s campaign team since she is “ready on day one to get to work for the American people” – or Hillary.

          • HZ81

            Gee, you better call CNN and every other news source. I haven’t seen that reported. You must have a scoop. Run with it.

          • lucadrian

            Hard to believe isn’t it. It will catch up with you eventually.

          • HZ81

            Oh, okay. You let me know when that fantasy headline happens. I won’t hold my breath.

          • lucadrian
          • HZ81

            Any other right-wing sources you’d like to share tonight?

          • lucadrian

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b7277549e600cd6e3804d539d92e30d34f51b6e41f9cb1bfffb4a2d0e7ca972a.jpg

            After I recover from your patronizing confusion for truth and fantasy, I will. But here’s a bit from a more liberal source for your pleasure.

          • HZ81

            Yes, I already replied that it’s true, probably as you were making this pic.

          • HZ81

            Oh actually, I found another. From Politico.

            http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/wasserman-schultz-wont-preside-over-dnc-convention-226088

            You’re right. It’s not a fantasy. President Obama and VP Biden still support her, too. I guess Debbie, being a lifelong Democrat, has her supporters.

  • Kelly Lape

    So foreigners hack the DNC and selectively release material that shows the DNC was planning on winning in November. Stop the presses, this is amazing news.

  • Duh-David

    So, I missed it when Bernie Sanders joined the Democratic party?

  • Jmdintpa

    Our own little left wing tea party assholes.

    • 2karmanot

      And don’t forget your own little know nothing corporate wing assholes.

  • Jerry Hinnant

    Is their any sane people left in this country anymore?

    • danolgb

      Yes. Hillary and those of us who believe in her. We picked the one adult in the room.

  • JaniceInToronto

    And the crap just keep on coming…

    Please, let it be November. The insanity needs to end.

    • Stubenville

      This, a thousand times this.

    • YouCommiePinko

      Does politics stop in November?

      • JaniceInToronto

        Well hopefully the worst of it will taper off a bit.

  • Stubenville

    So, re-do fifty primaries?

    • Jonty Coppersmith

      Only the ones BS lost and none of the awful low voter turn out caucuses don’t you know.

  • Blake Jordan

    At least the democratic candidate they choose to run against Sanders in 2018 for his senate seat is getting lots of stuff to work with…

  • Rebecca Gardner

    These childish, fucking Bernie dickheads are going to hand Trump the White House because they don’t fucking understand how things work.

    Democratic Party, snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory yet again.

    • joe ho

      I don’t think so. They’re just a tiny fringe group. The vast majority of Sanders supporters have made the transition to Clinton. If anything rejecting them and their blackmail attempts will make Hillary look strong.

      • Gyeo

        I’m glad that the vast majority of Sanders supporters are sane but it’s the very vocal very public BernieorBust folks that spoils everything this election.

    • 2karmanot

      Oh Rebecca, there is no way in hell that the Dtrumpfenfhurer is going to win. It just astounds me that most of the loudmouth trolls dissing Bernie don’t have a clue about the New Deal or Great Society issues that Bernie is trying to save in the Juggernaut that is Clinton’s corporate oligarchy.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        Thanks. I’m just having a really shitty day and seeing this news just pissed me off.

        *HUGS*

        • 2karmanot

          I know the feeling hugs back at ya Rebecca. Always read your comments first over the years. 馃檪

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        at this juncture only thing bernard sanders is trying t save is his own hide.

        • YouCommiePinko

          He doesn’t care about his own hide.

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            he doesnt care about the democratic party, or endorsing the wining candidate, or helping down-tickets dems, so what does he care about?
            getting twenty year olds to throw tantrums?

          • 2karmanot

            Yawn….catch up…do some research. Clearly you don’t know F’ about Bernie Sanders or the 12 million who voted for him.

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            I know enuf to know he showed up late to the dem party. Crashed it. Then wanted to host it. And when he didnt get the ok by the voters. He still insists its his party.
            Its my party ill cry if i want to…….
            That is bullshit

      • Gyeo

        You underestimate the power of White Supremacy in this country. Look what happened in the UK. Even Leftist voted for Britexit because they rather run over minorities than go against their economic ideals. White Supremacy can easily put Trump in the White House and you Leftist are clearly showing us that being economically on the left does not mean you’re an actual progressive. Socialism didn’t solve racism and homophobia in Cuba, China, or even any of the Nordic countries. It’s not capable of solving any of those things by itself. If you don’t care that people of color’s lives are on the line or that women can lose their reproductive rights, or that LGBT folks can have 2 decades of progress reverse, your New Deal is garbage and your revolution is garbage.

    • Carl

      I think statistically speaking, they’re the same group of “more liberal than thou” assholes who show up every four years threatening to spoil the election. There’s no point in chasing votes we’ll never get. It’s turnout from the people we can get that we have to be focused on.

      • Lazycrockett

        These whiners won’t allow themselves to be soiled by participating in the voting process anyway cause its sooo corrupt. They love nothing more than bitching bout the system but do nothing to change it. Pathetic.

  • Joseph Miceli

    I hardly think any sensible person can argue that Debbie Wasserman Schultz was impartial. The real question to ask here is what purpose do these lawsuits serve? It won’t get Bernie elected, And it certainly won’t get Hillary elected. The only purpose served here is spite.

    • danolgb

      Tell us how she wasn’t?

      • kmcdevitt

        No. The onus is on the plaintiff to prove she did.

      • Joseph Miceli

        You know what? No. I’ve already stated my opinion of DWS and my support for Hillary and how stupid the act of suing her is. I don’t need to deal with the knee jerk reaction that Hillary supporters instantly have to demolish ANYONE who dares disagree with anything that has to do with her campaign.
        You want to know why someone might think that? Go Google it.

        • danolgb

          That’s pretty much the response I always get. Everyone is so convinced she was pulling strings for Hillary, but no one has ever been able to say what she actually did.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Sorry man. I know from past experience that jumping through hoops for rabid Bernie haters is just wasted effort. I will say that about two weeks ago there was an article about how terrible DWS was and both Bernie and Hillary people were falling all over themselves to say how terrible she was.
            It may fit in with your narrative that whatever a Bernie supporter attacks you are automatically for, but that is not necessarily true. These Bernie people can be stupid, spiteful and hurting unity and the party AND DWS can be an incompetent ham handed fool. These two conclusions are not mutually exclusive.

          • Treant

            Conflation. Nobody’s saying she doesn’t suck, but she sucks at her job across the board.

            You were asked for proof that DWS specifically favored Clinton over Sanders and have refused to provide anything other than an argument even you say you don’t fully agree with.

            Concede the point and move on–you are unable and unwilling to provide any proof and, therefore, cannot show that DWS favored Clinton.

          • Joseph Miceli

            LOL, I’m supposed to care what YOU think?

          • Treant

            Well, the fact that you keep sidestepping the argument you just made when challenged on it…obviously any level of intelligent conversation is beyond you on this point.

            So apparently no, being unable or unwilling or uncaring about any actual proof, neither of us are going to worry about it. You, sir, have lied and are therefore dodging to avoid providing proof.

            It’s amusing, and regrettably unsurprising.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Hah! I’m not side stepping anything. I’m amusing myself by seeing how long you can keep this stupid shit going.

          • Treant

            Then answer the question asked.

          • Joseph Miceli

            No. Ha haaaa ha haaa ha!

          • Treant

            No reason to continue.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Lol, prove it. You can’t stand to let ME have the last word.

          • danolgb

            I just want people to actually tell me what she did which was so horrible. All I get is the same kind of response you get from right wingers when you ask them to tell you specifically what Obama did that the think was illegal. Seems the DWS haters just don’t like her and can’t say why. Maybe they just don’t like women like right wingers just don’t like black people.

          • JustSayin’

            Danolgb, the main whining about her is that she offended many of these people by not agreeing with them. She had the nerve to call out democrats for acting like children. The kiddies dont like having a mirror shoved in their faces.

          • Joseph Miceli
          • danolgb

            So, repealed rules about lobbyists.
            Debate Schedule
            Data access revoked

            Seems these are pretty weak arguments. Even Sanders had donations from lobbyists. So that doesn’t seem biased.
            DWS didn’t fully control the debate schedule and rules about unofficial debates have been on the books for a long time. It’s also not the DNC’s job to do Bernie’s campaigning for him.
            And the data access revocation was always a temporary measure until it could be verified the data was secured. As a data admin myself, I will tell you such action is standard procedure.

            These seem pretty weak arguments. Seems more like someone just wants a scapegoat for his poor campaign performance.

          • Joseph Miceli

            This is exactly why I didn’t want to do the work. Nothing outside of a taped confession by DWS saying “I’m Hillary’s sex slave. I will do anything to get her elected!” would convince most Hillary supporters that DWS was biased.
            I still say that it is a testament to her incompetence that she’s even left herself open to these charges.
            Now the burden of proof is on you. Show how Bernie Sanders is directing these 100 supporters to sue on his behalf.

          • danolgb

            Well, by not conceding and not admitting that he just was bested by the better candidate, he’s not exactly doing anything to stop them. He keeps saying he’s going to do everything in his power to stop Trump. We’re just curious when he plans to start that.

          • Joseph Miceli

            What? He’s responsible for the lawsuit 100 of his backers are brining against the DNC because….he isn’t conceding the primary?
            If I used logic like that you all would have me for breakfast and your saying so still isn’t proof. Look this is all so futile. You all hate Bernie and anything to do with Bernie and your even willing to side with DWS because it might hurt Bernie. I get it.
            You have a good night.

          • danolgb

            He could stop it by putting an end to the delusion. But he seems to be just as deluded. He really wasted his opportunity for leverage.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Yes, I heard you the first time. You have an unreasoning hatred of Bernie and will believe anything of him. In that, you are just as guilty as the Republicans who castigate Hillary for being “untrustworthy.” You commit the exact same sin and then expect me to provide iron clad proof that DWS is biased. Right.
            I’m going to bed.

          • danolgb

            Bernie is going on cable news programs and openly criticizing our candidate. He feeds the delusion and isn’t holding up his promise to do everything in his power to stop Trump. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to call him out on it.

          • Joseph Miceli

            What is unreasonable is that you are using an attack on Bernie as a defense of Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s impartiality. You are unreasonable. Literally. That is one hell of a lot of animus you are showing, there.

            Here. Maybe this will explain to you why Hillary supporters are being such assholes.

            https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/06/the-psychology-of-why-hillary-clinton-supporters-a.html

          • danolgb

            No, I’m saying Bernie and his supporters are attacking DWS on flimsy charges as a scapegoat to cover up his own shortcomings. You would think that a Jewish man would be sensitive of that especially with a Jewish woman. Anyway, have a fucking good night.l

          • Joseph Miceli

            Oh please! Bernie isn’t part of the lawsuit. Irrational hatred. As for the whole “Jew” thing, wtf does that have to do with anything.
            Nope. You need to examine your prejudices and the evidence you so blithely poo poo is hardly flimsy. Looks pretty damning to me.
            Have a good day!

          • danolgb

            “Scapegoat” is of Jewish origins. Try learning something.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Gee, that’s inelligunt.

            Try looking up “pharmakos.” The tradition was more widespread in the Mediterranean than you think and was probably borrowed by the Jews as so much else was. If you are trying to say DWS was a scapegoat, then brother, you are really reaching.
            Insult my intelligence again and I’ll post more information for you. You might learn something.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Oh please. He gives up his political leverage the day he endorses Hillary. By dragging this out until the convention his base is slowly getting used to the idea of supporting Hillary in an organic fashion so that they don’t have the chance to say he’s sold out. It also gives him a chance to change the platform. So far, Hillary is still for frakking, for freezing the minimum wage at 10.00, against a carbon tax and for offshore drilling and drilling in national parks. What a Progressive she is! I will be reminding you of this post after she pivots back to center in the general.

          • danolgb

            Actually, the platform is written. That happened last weekend. He’s late to the party for that one. Since Hillary has more delegates, she has more votes at the convention and his changes aren’t going to go happen. He should have been more of a team player. Now he will get nothing.

          • Joseph Miceli

            You really don’t know how this works, do you? The platform has not been adopted yet and still needs to be finalized…which happens at the Convention. He has gotten four items adopted already…so… so much for your “he’ll get nothing.”
            You really need to work on that Bernie Derangement Syndrome. It is really distorting your perception of reality.

          • danolgb

            The platform is written. He won’t have a majority of votes needed to make changes to it. His chance was in the committee. He had representation there. That is fucking reality.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Oh, its a “fucking” reality? So no changes are made at the Convention? Really? I’m SO glad you admit that he had a hand in writing the platform. That is a good step back towards reality.

          • danolgb

            Changes to the platform at the time of the convention are extremely rare. The hard work is done in advance and pretty much the convention just votes to ratify it. You don’t hammer out compromises on the convention floor with 5000 chefs in the kitchen. That’s really, really how that works. Hillary has more delegates who will vote to approve it. Amendments at the convention take a 2/3 vote. By definition, Bernie doesn’t have enough votes to amend.

          • Joseph Miceli

            But he has enough to take his message to a floor vote.

            “The approved platform draft will be voted on by a 187-member committee in Orlando, two weeks before the DNC begins in Philadelphia on July 25. Of those 187, 72 members are reportedly allied with Sanders, and they will likely advocate to have their previously voted-down initiatives included in the platform as amendments.

            Sanders’ policy director Warren Gunnels told Politico, “If we don’t win on some of these amendments what will need to happen is there will need to be at least 40 members voting for those amendments and the same 40 members will also have to file a minority vote and that would give us an opportunity to take that minority vote to the floor of the convention in Philadelphia.”
            His quest to change the Democratic party from within makes sense, and the ONLY leverage he has to get these floor votes is to NOT endorse Hillary till the primary.
            THIS is really how it works.

          • Treant

            You have questioned the Great Conspiracy Against Bernie Conspiracy (so conspiracy it had to be repeated). Prepare to be eradicated by ham-handed snark and incomprehensible theories that fall apart under any scrutiny.

            DWS doesn’t decide any Primary dates, methods, or tiebreakers. She had a lot less to do with the debate schedule than most seem to think (the networks that are willing to host make slots available, and the candidates have to agree as both schedules must synchronize). She doesn’t do much with donations until after the Primary, at which point the winning candidate’s mechanisms and people are actually in control.

            The generalist stuff DWS does do…well, she’s not that great at it, but this is a position not generally held in any esteem anyway.

    • Tulle Christensen

      Well each state runs thier own cacuses and primaries. she had very little to do with any of them

      • Joseph Miceli

        But she did have a lot to do with the debate schedule. That may or may not rise to that level, but she was ham handed enough to leave herself open to the charge.

        • A debate schedule which didn’t even last a month before additional debates were added.

          And honestly, people overrate the influence these debates have when aside from political junkies like ourselves, most people only hear about them, if even that.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Sigh. I really can’t believe this crap. This is DWS, the most inept, ham handed, abrasive director of the DNC that we’ve had In …well…forever. She has bungled this primary and the re-election campaigns since day one. The majority of the people on this site were falling over each other two weeks ago to condemn her, both Bernie people and Hillary fans, and now, because she was attacked by 100 idiotic Bernie morons, she’s “Saint Debbie of Wasserman Schultz” patron saint of impartiality.
            Just because Bernie’s donors are involved doesn’t mean she isn’t incompetent.

          • Treant

            I’m just going to carbon this because you don’t seem to be capable of understanding it. Your argument drifted and that’s not what Becca–or anybody else–is saying.

            Nobody’s saying she doesn’t suck, but she sucks at her job across the board.

            You were asked for proof that DWS specifically favored Clinton over Sanders and have refused to provide anything other than an argument even you say you don’t fully agree with.

            Concede the point and move on–you are unable and unwilling to provide any proof and, therefore, cannot show that DWS favored Clinton.

          • Joseph Miceli

            You silly person, in politics appearance is EVERYTHING! Her ineptitude left her open to the charge of favoritism and that appearance is as damning as the actual commission of the sin. As to the rest, I still maintain that you still aren’t worth a serious reply because you are a dick.

          • I never said DWS wasn’t incompetent. What I’m saying is her incompetence was such that she couldn’t have rigged the primary results even if she’d wanted to.

            She SUCKS and should’ve been replaced long ago. But suing her and the Democratic party shows we’re dealing with people who really don’t give a fig if Trump is elected instead and apparently would prefer it over Clinton.

            Thing is though, many of the complaints laid at her doorstep alleging, “See! THIS HERE is why our beloved Bernie lost! DWS made it happen!” are bullshit. She never had that much power and it was the party she hurt more with her ineptitude than either specific candidate.

            Let’s take those debate schedules: Yes, stupid. But they hurt Clinton, Sanders, and O’Malley equally because everybody was tuning into the prime-time GOP debates. The remaining Sanders supporters want us to assume “more debates, better timing” would have guaranteed a Sanders win, which is nonsense and not supported by the facts or the voting results.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Becca…we aren’t arguing. What you wrote is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying. This stupid lawsuit is nothing but spite that hurts DEMS, breeds disunity and it is bad politics.
            Bernie lost because…Bernie lost. Life sucks sometimes, but in a democracy you have to support the winner. This little shit storm from these Bernie people is really “dog in the manger” stuff.
            That doesn’t mean that DWS isn’t a twit.

          • Yep, glad we agree. And she definitely is a twit.

        • Treant

          So why did he agree with the debate schedule? He proved himself very good at complaining about everything else he felt didn’t favor him*.

          * Yes, it sounds pissy because, frankly, I’ve had it with the guy and the Convention and his disappearance can’t come too soon.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Yes, yes, you’ve made that perfectly clear. Thank you so much for your reply.

          • Treant

            You’re so welcome and I’m so glad you’re smart enough to see my point.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Aw! Treant, you are SO cute when you are delusional. Thank you for brightening my day!

          • Treant

            You’re welcome…and you were still ducking the questions. I’m not sure I believe it when a liar accuses somebody else of being delusional.

          • Joseph Miceli

            (applause)
            I’ll send you your trophy!

          • Treant

            Still ducking.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Aw. Is widdle yooze mad because I won’t jump through flaming hoops just because you say so? Awww…someone needs to get over themselves. Maybe if some people didn’t behave like dicks others might take them seriously. Too bad, so sad.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Your Honor,

      I would like offer defense exhibit A in regards to the charges of spite……..

      • 2karmanot

        Some say spite others say classic democracy

        • Dramphooey

          More like New Democracy that is repulsing all of us so in the end they brought back Classic Democracy. Meanwhile they stopped selling Lime Democracy and I’m still pissed but not smart enough to simply buy my own limes.

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          Fair enough, as long as those who practice this “classic” democracy understand that, should it be a President Trump and he dismantles many of the gains of LGBT’s, women and minorities, they are as responsible as the GOP and should be held to account. If they can live with that, at least it will confirm what many believe: that the far left is no different than the far right in their desire to harm others for their own rigid ideology.

      • Joseph Miceli

        It is self defeating. Lord knows I’ve held the most bile filled Hillary supporters accountable for alienating potential voters. Suing DWS is not only a distraction, it is divisive and simply bad politics.

    • lymis

      There is a HUGE difference between personally impartial and professionally impartial. Point to something she did in her official role as DNC chair that “skewed” things toward Hillary.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Seriously? You are arguing that Debbie Wasserman Schultz is impartial? Well, I guess the onus of proof is on me, so let me get to the google and I’ll get back to you.

      • Joseph Miceli

        O.k., first there’s the debate schedule that supposedly (I don’t know if I agree) favored Clinton in state primaries over Bernie.

        http://usuncut.com/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-hillary-clinton/
        You know, my problem with DWS is not so much that she’s impartial or not, but that she is so ham handed and incompetent a politician that she even let herself open to these charges. She really shouldn’t be in charge of the DNC and up until Bernie’s supporters brought this stupid lawsuit most of the people posting here would have agreed with that.
        Where have I seen that tactic before….um…let’s see….Obama endorsing a Republican proposal and then the Republican congress backing away from their own idea, maybe?
        LOL!

  • Mark Ne茅 Fuzz

    This serves no purpose whatsoever. While we’re at it why don’t we launch another Benghazi investigation or schedule another vote to overturn ACA. It is a pathetically desperate flogging of a dead horse to tip the scales in Bernie’s favor. You change the rules before the first pitch of the season, not in the ninth inning of the seventh game of the World Series.

    • Lazycrockett

      The more Bernie and his Bro’s pull this shit the more they come off as a badly written farce with actors not knowing to exit stage left. No one is going to even look their way at the convention. He has destroyed whatever power he had.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, at this point there is no way in hell he would be given a chance to speak, same with many of his supporters.

  • SoCalVet

    you can sue anybody for anything. But most of that shit will be thrown out of court.

  • JT
  • joe ho

    Stand up, all victims of oppression, Bernie’s here to save you!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suVB3YGIUk0

  • Lazycrockett
  • WTHella

    And when it gets thrown out of court they will just add the judge to the conspiracy.

  • David

    Bernie LOST fare & square.
    Time to grow up kids….

  • Treant

    Can we stop talking about this guy and his few remaining crazy supporters? We get it, they’re not going to vote for Clinton but want us to beg them to do so. They still won’t vote for her.

    He’s lost, they’ve lost, and everybody’s moving into general election mode. He’s irrelevant.

    • joe ho

      I think it’s good to denounce them. These extremists are our Tea Party. We can’t allow them to hijack the party or take it to places it shouldn’t go.

      • Treant

        I don’t disagree, but at this point I would suggest that an eye roll and moving on with your life (and voting for Hillary in November) is an effective denunciation.

    • 2karmanot

      Ah Bubba the few supporters you are dissing are at least 12 million in number.

      • Treant

        Aw…just keep thinking that most of them haven’t moved on or reacted to the antics. That’s so cute.

        At this point, he’d best not get the nomination….I’m only half sure I could bring myself to vote for a whiner.

  • TexasBoy

    And none of them see the irony that their suit alleging illegal partiality is, in fact, only supported by “evidence” obtained by illegal hacking.

  • Okay, wait. Evidence that the DNC was planning strategies for Clinton to beat Trump in the general is supposedly evidence that they rigged the primaries?

    Uhmmm…no.

    I’m not fan of DWS. In fact I’ve wanted her fired for several years now. But I don’t see any evidence of election rigging here.

    • 2karmanot

      Ref…400 super delegates stacked up before the primaries even started.

      • Super-delegate endorsements, which they are free to do or not as they like as they are current and former leaders in the Democratic party — and unlike pledged delegates, they were free to change their minds at any time. (And technically still are!)

        Just like the supers did in 2008 when Clinton conceded to Obama, despite being much, much closer in the overall delegate count and despite the then-fair complaint that Obama had more delegates because his campaign had focused on the then-available winner-take-all states.

        What happened this year wasn’t “rigging” a primary. It was Democratic party establishment leaders making their preference known in the hope of affecting the outcome. Which the voters and caucus-goers would’ve been free to do if they truly preferred Sanders over Clinton — but they didn’t.

  • nowhereman

    Good. And she has been mighty quiet lately. I wonder if Hills realizes what a deterrence DWS is to a lot of us.

    • danolgb

      DWS has been quiet because the nominee puts their own rep in that place. Had you ever paid attention to how things worked before this year, you’d know that.
      http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-dnc/

      • justmeeeee

        she was shit-canned. that’s all.

        • danolgb

          Just like 8 years ago, and four years before that, and four years before that. Having the campaign take over the DNC for the convention has happened every single election.

          • justmeeeee

            yep, she was shit-canned. sorry dan-o.

          • danolgb

            Read the article. Maybe learn something for the next election so you don’t look so uninformed. It was funny Bernie thought he was going to put Tulsi in. That’s a privilege reserved for the nominee.

          • justmeeeee

            poor shit-canned Debbie Blabbermouth Schulz. Nothing to do but slink back to Florida and see if the voters now kick her ass to the curb also.

          • danolgb

            I bet you’re a hoot at parties. Sorry your candidate sucked. But that was his and only his fault. Maybe yours too.

          • justmeeeee

            Boo hoo hoo! Debbie got shit-canned!

    • Tigernan Quinn

      Mostly we don’t think about you at all. Where you guys got the idea that “you” were important and so necessary that you could start demanding things, I have no idea. But it’s done now. Stamp your feet in an empty room, we don’t care.

      • nowhereman

        Yeah, I feel all warm and fuzzy about you guys, too.
        After all, it’s her turn, right?

  • A photographer captured the moment the suit was filed by Sanders’ supporters…

    • 2karmanot

      Oh, you have that quite wrong…those are baby Hillary Hairballs in waiting for the Hillary reforms that will never come as she turns the nation over to Wall Street

    • justmeeeee

      You are just one fucking clever Hill-bot!!! Yes, you are !!! Yes, yes, you ARE!!!

    • Lazycrockett

      There is too many black babies in that picture.

  • Blake J Butler

    F.Y.I If you travel to Dallas, or to Little Rock, mark Texarkana off your list of cities to spend your money in because apparently they want to wear bigotry on a badge loudly and proudly.

    Hate these fuckers, glad i was able to vote against the repeal though.

    http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2016/06/29/texarkana-repeals-nondiscrimination-ordinance

    • There’s zero reason to go to Texarkana anyway. That’s why I got the fuck out of there as fast as I could.

      • Blake J Butler

        Not so easy houndentour when your still in college.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    So basically, BernieBros have decided to get Trump elected…….interesting.

  • lymis

    Plans to support Hillary in the general election are essentially meaningless in this context unless it can somehow be shown that they changed some rules to specifically suppress the Sanders campaign. Hillary was ahead from the beginning and never dropped behind (or if there were any periods she was showing behind, they were very brief) or that there were plans to divert DNC funds away from Sanders if he won the nomination.

  • Phillip in L.A.

    Dismissed with prejudice; Plaintiffs have no standing under Article III; set OSC re: monetary sanctions for filing frivolous lawsuit against attorney who filed

  • Lawerence Collins

    Finally! For those who think this is just sour grapes. They’re also two lawyers who stopped Karl Rove from stealing the 12. election from Obama.

  • That_Looks_Delicious
    • 2karmanot

      Love this, but I’m thinking Hillary Hairballs with the snakes and all.

  • Tempus Fuggit

    I’ll be saddened and angered, but not surprised, by the evidence presented. Just take a look at this from California, for just one analysed example.

    I will be surprised, on the other hand, if anything’s done about it. Nothing ever is, as it seems.

    And I note the New Times’ snotty little sneer quotes around the word rigged.

    • Tigernan Quinn

      Because it wasn’t rigged.

    • JustSayin’

      More wing nut claims from sites like the Justice Gazette. Your link copied their page.

      The CA Secretary of State website shows the final counts with hillary getting 56.3% of the votes, just over 2,660,000 votes.

      Your tin foil hat has stopped working.

      • Tempus Fuggit

        No foil hat here鈥攖in, aluminum, or other. I’ve just seen enough malfeasance in enough American elections to have great difficulty working up much skepticism on the matter.

  • margaretpoa

    I’m not a fan of DWS but this suit is going to be laughed out of court.

  • 2patricius2

    So in April 2015 Sanders announced he would run as a Democrat, and at the end of May he kicked off his campaign. He was but a speck in the polls at that point. Trump didn’t announce his candidacy till June of 2015, and no one expected him to win. This whole claim about these emails sounds a bit unbelievable to me.

    And if there were such emails (despite the timelines of the announcements of candidacy), who sent and who received them? And what is the actual proof that the process was rigged?

    I think it is time for these donors to drop their silly suit and move forward with their lives.

  • bdsmjack

    Bernie, Bernie, Bernie, I so regret voting for you in our primary.

    • Treant

      Don’t regret it, please. You based your vote on his actions, statements, and candidacy stances at the time and made the best decision you could. There’s no reason to regret that.

      The fact that he…well, unraveled…isn’t something you could have known. And I’m telling a lot of people here and at DK not to regret their votes then. What, you can see the future?

  • JoeMyGod

    FWIW, Schultz was well-received when she passed us during Wilton Manors Pride last weekend.

    • JoeMyGod

      Granted this was just one week after Orlando and people were not in the mood for politics. They just wanted to celebrate queers and allies.

  • thom

    VP Biden in sit down interview with us just now: “I’ve talked to Bernie. Bernie is going to endorse her.” @NPRWeekend
    Rachel Martin NPR

  • Gyeo
  • bob

    It’s about time someone called the Dem establishment on its entrenched corruption.

    • 2karmanot

      Thank you

    • WillMoor

      Yep, that’s what we need right now. That will get somebody great like Trump into the White House. Then we can ALL be happy and celebrate.

  • Um, no. This’ll be dismissed, after wasting unnecessary time and money. Reason? Lack of standing, mostly. Plus, if you give money to the DNC, they’re free to spend the money or to pass it on to specific candidates as they like. And ActBlue is in no way part of the Democratic party — it’s a PAC!

    I read through the lawsuit itself and it’s a total mess. More than half of the plaintiffs gave to ActBlue (which again isn’t the same thing as the DNC). If they did pass that money along to Sanders as they normally do (minus their usual operating fee cut), these plaintiffs have no standing to file a complaint just because their guy didn’t win the primaries.

    A few gave a pittance to the DNC (one as little as $3) — a grand total of a little over $300 for all the named DNC-donating plaintiffs. And I’d say the quarter remaining aren’t recorded as having made any donations whatsoever, thereby giving them NO standing to sue at all.

    What follows is a litany of complaints against not ActBlue, but the DNC and Wasserman-Schulz. And even if the DNC was biased and violated its own guidelines as to impartiality, there still aren’t grounds for lawsuit (never mind a class action) because those guidelines aren’t legal requirements. There is no law involved to be broken.

    They used a term for this over on DailyKos, which apparently is literally true now: “Attempting to re-litigate the primaries.”

  • Realist_Indy

    i am tired of the bernie bots

  • joe ho

    Rasmussen has already started its dirty polling tricks, just like it did in 2012 when it falsely gave Romney a substantial lead. Today it said Trump leads Clinton by 4.

    Rasmussen has a C+ rating, but it gives Trump his talking points anyway.

  • justmeeeee

    Debbie’s a world-class putz.

  • JustSayin’

    More bernie loser crap…who does not finally see is and trump use the same playbook?

  • joe ho

    lol. bernie gets another 45 day extension to release his taxes. so after the convention. must be some interesting stuff in there that goes against his purist socialist narrative. the bernouts will be wanting their weed money back!

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/286165-sanders-gets-another-45-day-extension-for-personal

    • I’m still wondering what was in the 2014 (and/or earlier year) taxes. Has to have been some reason why they didn’t want us to see them.

      • joe ho

        i dislike the hypocrisy. he poses as a purist and he pulls this kind of stunt. throughout the campaign he got a free ride. hillary had to fight with one hand tied behind her back, not daring to really attack him for fear of alienating his followers. the gop didn’t attack him either, while going after her mercilessly, trying to create a wedge. then he can’t even be up front about his taxes.

        • Treant

          And yet, through all that, Hillary won a resounding victory. She was outspent, outfought, out-advertised, and had to allow herself to be outmaneuvered during the primary to avoid alienation.

          She still won by miles. This was not a close Primary.

          Imagine the post-April Sanders actually pulling out a victory…we’d have PUMA with a vengeance with that level of scorched earth. The only thing that would have saved his ass was the fact that he’s up against Trump. Put him up against Bush Senior (or even, one fears, Bush the Lesser) and he’d have his ass handed to him.

          • ‘Radical socialist revolutionary’ and ‘friend to communist leaders’ and ‘he once mused on the merits of children having sex with each other’ and ‘he’s promised to raise your taxes!’ The campaign ads would’ve been relentless. Not saying I believe most of those criticisms, just that the buzzwords, jingoism and raw fodder are there and there is no depth of vileness to which the GOPers won’t go.

            Clinton is going to be subjected to a barrage of awful, too.

            What I’ve been saying all along is neither Clinton nor Sanders would’ve been immune to the vicious negative ads we’re already seeing — and which will only get worse come autumn. Yet many of the remaining Sanders supporters would have us believe there’s no dirt on him available at all.

          • Treant

            Clinton also enjoys considerable immunity after 30 years of smearing. We’re all used to a smear, followed by absolutely no proof, and the smear being dropped or simply repeated without any data provided. Eventually one goes deaf to them…and please see “The Boy Who Cried Wolf.”

            It’s like Miceli’s “arguments” below. Smear, and respond to criticism with insults, changing the argument, or simply repeating the smear. What he’s failed to realize is that we’re all kind of immune to that crap having experienced it ourselves with, y’know, us and religion and Republicans.

            Unfortunately, from refusing to release his taxes (to date, anyway), past writings that are, as you noted…well, at best a little odd, and some associations in the past that make Clinton look like a Methodist choir director, Sanders was ripe for attack ads.

            Given the lack of maturity with which the Sanders campaign handled the faintest criticism, I’m thinking the response to actual attacks would have been Trump-esque.

    • Treant

      Shocking. Truly. Did he ever answer the FEC charges? Or, I guess, do we care? These questions, and more, on the next As The Stomach Turns.

    • danolgb

      Well, since the 2014 taxes showed Jane’s income from the nuclear deal, I’m sure those prior showed even more.

  • I made the mistake of trying to explain in the comments section of the extremely anti-Clinton USUncut website’s article able it this why the DNC’s hacked emails do not in fact show a Clinton bias as the lawsuit (then still seeking plaintiffs) claimed. I had to give up. There’s absolutely no rational discussion to be had. Everything I presented was countered with something completely left-field and tangential. I’m still getting comment reply notifications many days after I left for good. I’m convinced the attorneys see this as a quick extortion scheme. I bet they’re counting on the DNC not wanting the publicity and paying off the attorneys with big attorneys fees to go away.

  • Gianni

    I don’t know what all this is supposed to accomplish, but it seems to be just one more afterberner tactic to throw onto the top of the pile to keep the funeral pyre burning longer. Bernie, you and that untrimmed and uncombed mess of hair on your head annoy me to no end. You are looking shabbier everyday and acting like it, too.

  • Tigernan Quinn

    Bernie Sanders sure has done a lot for the Democratic Party, hasn’t he.

    • Aye, a real force for party unity in a time where the only realistic alternative to the presumptive nominee is Donald Jizzwhistle Trump. /s (Yes, I’m bitter at this point.)

      • Treant

        Take heart. There’s no reason to assume we need party unity (see Clinton, 1992, and that was a harder demographic makeup). Most Sanders supporters have happily migrated to Hillary already (and why not? She’s 93% Sanders on a warm day). Warren will take over the Progressive Caucus’ leadership (really, she’s that already, Sanders is not) and manage much of the transfer of the remaining Sanders voters who can be convinced. My bet is that you hear from Sherrod Brown as well.

        Those that remain, we never had. They were Socialist or Green Party voters meandering in, and they’ll stumble right back out.

        Then they’ll get mad that Hillary recognizes this fact and has to turn a little to the center to capture enough centrists to make up for them being feckless. What did they expect, exactly? She needs a given number of swing states. She knows that.

        It’s enough to amuse a fellow.

    • JustSayin’

      You sound proud of that.

  • cleos_mom

    At this point, these hissies have about as much relevance as the latest models in buggies.

  • andrew

    As much as I like Sanders voting record in Congress, I must admit he has always been good at playing the victim. Looks like some of his supporters are following his example.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    We are now LITERALLY Karen Black in “Trilogy of Terror”.

  • finkles2000

    Remember when Bernie was like, “Corral wasteful spending by the Department of Defense!”? Wasn’t wasteful spending part of his platform? I guess when it furthers your own personal vendetta, it’s fine. It just seems like now, Bernie’s sticking with this charade — pronounce it “sha-rod,” please, like God intended — just so his followers can get rid of the people he hates and do his dirty work for him. People say Hillary is corrupt, but Bernie just seems kind of evil at this point.

  • LogicBomb

    Has anyone actually read these documents because so far thi as article hadn’t come close to showing that the DNC was partial to Hillary. It showed research to refute partisan politics . Hard to do research for another candidate and what if there are documents not acquired by Puscifer 2.0 that have to do with Bernie then what

  • Marinda Surrett

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