NBA Slams North Carolina’s Attempt To Fix Hate Law

Earlier this week LGBT activists denounced the attempt by North Carolina Republicans to “refine” the anti-transgender section of HB2. This afternoon the NBA and the Charlotte Hornets joined in. Their message:

“We have been engaged in dialogue with numerous groups at the city and state levels, but we do not endorse the version of the bill that we understand is currently before the legislature. We remain committed to our guiding principles of inclusion, mutual respect and equal protections for all. We continue to believe that constructive engagement with all sides is the right path forward. There has been no new decision made regarding the 2017 NBA All-Star Game.”

  • David Walker

    Set a deadline, NBA. You’ll have to find a new city, make new arrangements, and make a statement. Be serious. Deadline = deadline. Mean it.

    • barracks9

      Just as some premier athletes are bailing on the Rio Olympics, it’s time for some marquee NBA players to step up and refuse to participate in the All-Star Game unless it’s moved to a different state.

      • Marinda Surrett

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    • bkmn

      And make the deadline soon. If the NBA is to move the ASG they will need as much time as possible to finalize the new location.

    • david fairfield

      Completely agree with you, David. You saved me from writing this myself. The more times he makes a public statement of the same empty words, the less NC, or anyone for that matter, will take them seriously. Why stand there repeating the same old speech without a firm resolve? His sentiments are completely meaningless. Should be “NC, we have seen your proposed fix to the bill which actually increases the harm to the lgbt community. If this proposed “fix” is signed the NBA will have no alternative but to find a place that embraces inclusiveness. Period.” And adios! I now believe he is insincere and just being pc. I no longer think he will actually pull out.

      • DaveW

        Sure, let’s whine “not enough” to an ally that is putting themselves out there for us.

        Armchair hack seems to know PR better than this professional who could just say, never mind, the gays seem to know what’s best.

        They are on our side, remember that. This won’t get more allies, which should be the focus.

        • StraightGrandmother

          We don’t often see personal digs and insults to other commentors on Joe My God do to is a difference of opinion. On some websites that happens, the personal swiping back and forth escalating with each exchange, however on JMG we don’t see that very often.

          • Mike__in_Houston

            Sadly, I have been seeing a number of personal digs and insults and there have been more recently than in the past. This one is actually quite mild compared to some that I have seen.

          • StraightGrandmother

            Well Mike, when you see it, speak up. Find the right words.

          • prixator

            You, too!

        • david fairfield

          Look, he continues to make official public statements saying the same things. He insists on everyone knowing that the NBA is inclusive. My point is that it begins to look insincere, especially if he has nothing to add that drives his point…for example a deadline as you suggested. I certainly don’t need to be told who our allies are, I know who they are. I am tireless in my fight for equality, and I support JMG as often as I can. I was in agreement with your original comment, but frankly he needs to dial it up, IN MY OPINION. Calling me a hack was unnecessary.

    • ErikDC

      They’ve already said they are moving it unless changes are made to the law. The NBA hasn’t publicly stated a deadline for when changes must be made.

      https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/723207383363784709?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Actions speak louder than words NBA. Pull the All-Star Game from NC if HateBill 2 is not repealed in its entirety.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    The support is appreciated, but I’m sorry, I just find it depressing that NC politicians don’t give a flying fuck about the civil rights of their citizens or tanking their economy or the freedom of their major cities to make their own legislation, but all of a sudden if they’re faced with the cancellation of a basketball game THEN they start paying attention?

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      I agree. Typical of sports-centric culture.

      • DaveW

        It’s so much more than sports centric. Religious, macho, small dick fear cocktail leads to brawls in the little league parents section. It’s a disgusting reflection of male inferiority complex.

        Plus, bread and circus. Like religion, we are so easily distracted. Humans depress me often.

    • sword

      In Texas, students may have to use textbooks that are out of date and falling apart..while on the same campus the school district is building a new $50 million football stadium.

      • barracks9

        HOORAY, SPORTSBALL!!!

      • nowhereman

        The football worship in Texas is only surpassed by their gun worship.

        • Skokieguy [Larry]

          Well big hair and jewelry needs to fit in somewhere on that list.

      • TrollopeReader

        there was one $60 m stadium that started to crack after the first season … i think they’ve “fixed” it by now …

    • WeRTheSquirrels

      Because sexual orientation and gender identity are choices while religion is God-given therefore more important.

    • TampaZeke

      That was my thought exactly. It’s a damned shame that LGBT people lives are enough motivation for them to do the right thing but threaten to move a sports event and suddenly they’re ready to consider making changes.

    • TrollopeReader

      and they’ve shown that they’re really NOT that interested in making the proper fixes ….

    • Joe in PA

      ^^^THIS^^^

    • StraightGrandmother

      It is sad I agree with you. However if that is the lever that moves them we need to pull that lever.

    • Michael

      Aren’t you even more depressed knowing that a majority of North Carolina residents support the bill? Their concern is with the economy, not trans-people.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Move it to the nation’s capital.

  • Chris H.

    Come on! No more Mr. Nice Commissioner. You’ve given the bigots plenty of time. Show them hate has a price.

  • That_Looks_Delicious
  • bkmn

    Just MOVE it. The new slogan for the NBA.

  • Sam_Handwich

    I’m cautiously optimistic that the NBA is sincere and is negotiating this as carefully as possible, keeping their cards close.

    If HB2 had come along ten years ago, none of this would be happening.

    • billbear1961

      It’s a good sign they’re not jumping all over this pathetic “fix” as a breakthrough. We were led to believe, by an earlier report, that they thought this was a possible face-saving solution they could use as an excuse to keep the games in NC. Not so!

      It must be that they ARE paying attention, and KNOW progressives aren’t happy with this tiny band-aid for a HUGE sore.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        I thought that they would accept it for the reason you list. Frankly surprised and pleased they are holding firm.

        • billbear1961

          They responded to pressure last time; so, I’m not shocked they have again this time.

          But that article Joe posted the other day had me worried–I really thought they were looking for ANY excuse to keep the games in NC.

      • D. J.

        Band-aid on an amputation. Fixed it for you. 😉 ((((Hugs ))))

  • sword

    Starting today, transgender people can openly give their lives to defend NC bigots

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Well said.

    • TrollopeReader

      …but have to hold it until they reach another state, without breaking the law. … *sigh*

      • Herald

        I recently took a trip to VA and had to drive through NC. The only stops we made were at rest areas and NO $ were spent there. But each time we did stop I thought of that exact thing.

      • But, but Dr. Laura say we should all wear depends so no one has to worry about anyone peeing/shitting anywhere!

  • Michael Rush

    They saw through it , nice to hear .

  • MikeinATL

    This actually keeps it in the news as a black eye on the bigoted folks of NC… I don’t trust the NC legislators to make a change now and then change it back later… move the game.

  • Ninja0980

    Never trust a bigot to do the right thing.
    The NBA needs to move the games.. NOW!

    • billbear1961

      Then we lose what appears to be our most effective weapon against the NC haters–they really WANT those GAMES!

      Unless you think that moving the games right NOW will break them, that they’ll immediately repeal the law in an effort to get the NBA to say they can still have them, after all.

      • TrollopeReader

        No, the NCers would just say “The NBA is controlled by the liberals, and what would you expect from *them*, and really, who needs a basketball game anyway” … let the legislature dilly-dally, do what they do, and then the NBA can say (for what, the third, fourth time?) ….nope. We meant it, and we’re going to Boston (or wherever).

        • billbear1961

          The GOP legislators may not care, much; but plenty of the knuckle-draggers who vote for them do, and so will the businesses that depend on the revenues generated by the games, TR.

          • TrollopeReader

            Of course, the legislature doesn’t seem to have a problem penalizing Charlotte these days … which is now a bigger banking city than Frankfurt, Germany (where some London operations could move to).

          • billbear1961

            Bigger than Frankfurt, Germany?!

            :O

          • timncguy

            it doesn’t matter. The GOP have gerrymandered themselves into office FOREVER

          • (((GC)))

            Citizens’ initiatives have worked to combat that in California and Arizona. (Granted, that’s on the left coast, but it shows how to wrest power from legislators who love nothing more than “safe” seats where incumbents are practically guaranteed the job for life.)

  • TampaZeke

    I was really worried that the NBA would be looking for any revision to give them an out for keeping their All Star game in Charlotte.

    I’m pleasantly surprised.

  • margaretpoa

    Oh, good. Too often people bluster and then cave when the bigots offer a stupid bandaid. Good for the NBA!

  • The only proposed change to HB2 is for post-op transgender people (who are actually, I’ve read, a minority of T* folks) who can’t get an amended birth certificate from their home state to be granted a pass from being arrested for using the bathroom appropriate to their gender identity.

    Will it stop Trans folk and any woman who looks too masculine or man who looks too feminine from being harassed, assaulted and/or threatened with arrest? Nope. And in NC, it’s getting worse, these assaults and public humiliation.

    Will it reverse the other provisions in the law which make LGBT discrimination in general totally legal in every way in North Carolina? Nope. HB 2 makes it 100% clear you can get married on Sunday and then be fired and/or evicted on Monday, if you’re a gay person.

    Will it reverse the ban on localities having their own anti-discrimination ordinances or from having a higher minimum wage which, in NC, is right at the federal minimum? Nope.

    Will it reverse the fact North Carolina just abolished the right for anybody in any protected category for discrimination — including gender, age, race, religion, or disability — to sue in state court for civil damages, a right which existed for 30 years until just now? Nope.

    • BobSF_94117

      It certainly exposes their real intent: to defang civil rights for all.

  • johncAtl

    I kind of suspect that the NBA is waiting for Michael Jordan to tell them what to do. He’s the principal owner of the Charlotte Hornets and was a basketball legend at UNC. I don’t think that Jordan wants to be associated with the discrimination imposed by HB2. My prediction is the NBA will move the game out of NC.

  • glass

    The NBA is not going to move.

  • D. J.

    NC isn’t going to fix shit. McCory already said so. Move the game and tell them to stick it where the sun “don’t” shine.

  • The “fix” is worse than the original. I hope the NBA keeps the pressure up.

  • Cosmo Tupper

    Dear NC bigots. It is impossible to fix a “hate” bill by changing language because any part of the bill remaining intact is still state sponsored bigotry and discrimination. Since your state obviously has no interest in really fixing this and only willing modify to codify your bigotry, we have determined that you can do whatever you want to with your bill. Keep it in place as far as we are concerned because it is obvious your state promotes legal discrimination and has no interest in valuing all of your citizens. We have decided that we are going to pull all professional sports teams and activities from your state – PERMANENTLY. When we move, we will decide to locate in states that do value ALL of their citizenry EQUALLY – that eliminates all states that are working to or have enacted discriminatory laws in the name of “religious freedom”. Further, we are going to encourage ALL professional sports organizations to place a PERMANENT boycott on your state and others like yours. There is NO place in the USA for discrimination so if you are determined to sanction bigotry, perhaps you should “Exit” the United States and rule by whatever theocracy you see fit.

    Regards,
    The NBA