SPOILER: Game Of Thrones

Last night’s Game Of Thrones featured gore, frontal male nudity, and a lot of backstory about the White Walkers. But it was the heartbreaking revelation of how Hodor got his name that has social media buzzing. Stay out of the comments if you’ve not yet seen it, otherwise dive in and dish.

  • Jason Lin

    Bran is the worst.

    • Rex

      But it keeps you regular.

      • Archipelagos

        I award you one internet today.

    • bambinoitaliano

      He turn out to be the Apocalypse of GOT. His power of time manipulations could be the reason all the chain reaction of what’s happening in Westeros way before is father was beheaded.

    • KnownDonorDad

      I hope we don’t find out he drove Aerys II mad.

    • Queequeg

      Worse than Ramsey?

  • oikos
    • Gustav2

      Gesundheit!

    • Giant Monster Gamera

      Finally, the merging to two of my favorite franchises.

    • Traxley Launderette

      Does this have anything to do with this meme I’ve seen 1000000000000000 times in my Facebook feed today?

      • oikos

        Yes.

  • Rambie

    I’m glad we got to learn the backstory for Hordor. Still a sad ending to a understated character.

  • Lazycrockett

    Everywhere I look today people on the internet are all crying over the death of Hodor and I was like saw that coming 4 seasons ago.

  • Mark

    Where everybody knows your name…..

    • Goodboy

      Gurl has no name.

      • Lazycrockett

        I was always kinda under the impression that the house of black and white had some sort of moral code when it came to killing people. but last night made it seem like they are no more than hired assassins.

        • Strepsi

          Yes, that was an interesting foreshadowing. Despite the previous, correct accusation that Arya is too emotionally, personally involved to work with them, is Arya also too MORAL to work with them?

          SHe doesn’t want to kill an innocent actress just becuase the understudy paid some cash. But that was so well done, forcing her to watch a twisted version of her father’s beheading AGAIN. :-O

        • clay

          It’s a religion; their only morality is “MY god”.

        • robirob

          I am surprised that she’s still given the option to get out of there, I presume, unharmed? I thought by now she’s in too deep to get out of there alive.

  • crewman

    It’s so powerful when a writer has thought through a long story arc, and you as the reader/viewer realize that something set in motion early in the story (Hodor’s name for example) was planned and revealed way way later in the story. I have a lot of respect for forward-thinking stories like that. In contrast to say, the TV series, Lost, whose story always promised to have some great reveal, only to be shown to just be stringing viewers along, with the ultimate reveal being what most of us fans had guessed (a theory the writers denied) by season 2.

    • Cousin Bleh

      This is exactly why I never join the chorus of fans complaining about GRRM’s slow writing process. Developing complex stories like this takes time and a lot of thought. Let the man take all the time he needs.

      • MickinDetroit

        ok, but since we’re off book now, is this GRRM’s long plan, or merely a contrivance of the team writing the show now to start culling bit characters?

        • Cousin Bleh

          That’s a good point. I didn’t watch the aftershow but I read somewhere that they said GRRM approved the Hodor story. No idea if that means it was his plotting or the producers’.

        • Lazycrockett

          I think the show and the books will end the same, but characters will have different paths of getting where they are going. Looks like the show is ditching pretty much all of Dorne stuff.

          • vorpal

            The less of Dorne and the Iron Islands that we see, the better.

          • goofy_joe

            The King’s Moot was a waste of a scene…get back to big D gathering her army, or Bran Flakes and his tree. 🙂

        • Mike Rasor

          On the Inside the Episode, the producers say the Hodor origin story was directly from GRRM’s outline, and the minute he told them about it they knew they needed to put it in the show.

          • Queequeg

            Sorry, I should have read your comment before posting mine.

        • Queequeg

          If you watch “behind the episode” the writers talked about an extended meeting with Martin to discuss the plot line. They were surprised when he told them about Hodor’s name, so they are following his story arc.

          • MickinDetroit

            oh.. ok… thanks, didn’t know that.

          • Queequeg

            No problem.

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    • Queequeg

      Lost was absolutely the biggest cop out and worst series finale in the history of television. I was mad at myself for having watched it for so long. When, in the last few episodes, the writers kept adding more plot elements instead of moving toward a resolution, I knew they were hacks who had painted themselves into a corner. Then they went for the “they were all hit by a gigantic bus” ending, I was really pissed.
      I’m sure George RR Martin is far to skilled a writer for that to happen. Seems like it is heading for a resolution. All plot elements are moving forward, except, maybe “a girl”. I’m way bored with that one.
      Interesting how King’s Landing was not even featured on this episode, again a credit to the writers for letting the other plots develop. I’m hoping the Lannisters and Tyrells kick the asses of the Faith Militants without getting Lores and Margery killed in the process.

      • Lazycrockett

        I walked away from Lost when they killed the hobbit and never looked back. Still don’t know how the show ended and never bothered to google it.

        • Queequeg

          Don’t, you’ll only be disappointed further.

      • Cousin Bleh

        The Lost ending indeed sucked, but Battlestar Galactica has it beat for worst series finale ever.

        • Queequeg

          I still say Lost was the worst but BSG wasn’t perfect either.

        • crewman

          I almost added BSG as an example, but I give them a little credit in that the show was canceled and they were clearly given a limited time to rush and wrap it up. But that show even before that seemed to have lost its story and was stretching things out way too much.

        • robirob

          I hated both endings with a passion. Cutesy Christiany red ribbon on top endings *puke*.

          Lost could have gone away with something out of this world and they made it so predictable. Christian Shepherd, indeed.

        • Diogenes Onionpants

          Yeah, I felt that both shows wrote themselves into a corner, couldn’t get out, and just relied on the ultimate deus ex machina: “why don’t we just say it was all about god? Can’t question that!”

  • vorpal

    The gratuitous penis… if such a thing exists :-).
    Overall, a great episode… but I wasn’t clear how the forest folk created the White Walkers… and then they turned on them? Did anyone catch that?

    • Brian G

      The Children of the Forest created the White Walkers to help defend their lands from the encroaching menace of the First Men from Essos. In time, the Walkers became a menace themselves and grew beyond the Children’s ability to control them
      Great article summary here: http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/05/game-of-thrones-recap-the-door-nights-king-hodor-dead

      • vorpal

        Thanks! Much appreciated!

      • Bluto

        So, the white walkers are the teaparty of Westeros.

        • Rillion

          I’m starting to think the White Walkers are nukes and bringing nuclear winter to Westeros. A weapon created to win a war but can end up destroying the world.

    • bambinoitaliano

      I’m sure it will be explain later. My guess is they created monsters they can’t control. Its the only reason they need Bran now to right their wrong.

    • zeddy303

      I was confused where the forest folks came in…. I feel like I somehow missed an episode.

      • bambinoitaliano

        I think earlier seasons we were shown dead human parts and dead horses part were arrange in a pattern. Last night shown the stones in the forest were done the same. Its a ritual the children of the forest create the white walker.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      Penis gratuit in French could mean gratuitous penis or free penis. How about gratuitous free penis?

    • ZhyKitty

      They showed one of the Children of the Forrest shoving dragonglass into that man’s chest to create a white walker (which were created as weapons in their war with The First Men). I guess that’s why it shatters them when you stab them with it.

    • Acronym Jim

      I don’t mind a gratuitous penis, but I prefer a grateful one.

  • delk

    I was sort of wondering, “Why are they back at the same flashback as last week?”

    • BrandySpears

      Penny Dreadful was flashback as well.

      • Goodboy

        Not quite the Arc but yes.

      • Lazycrockett

        Anything with Eva Green can flashback all they want.

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          She is FABULOUS. Maybe the best actress of her generation, although Lily Rabe and Sarah Paulson are up there too.

    • clay

      Bran doesn’t know his way around very well? The TER knew he’d need to get back there?

    • zeddy303

      And why they were there for so long. Just gtfo Bran!

      • Cuberly

        People have been wondering that all over. Some are saying that the three eyed raven was basically downloading his info into Bran before he bought the farm.

  • Butch

    Please, guys, I’ not being a troll….I don’t get HBO because we can’t afford it so I’ve never seen this show, yet I see summaries and comment sections about it on probably dozens of websites. Can someone tell me what’s the big deal?

    • Gustav2

      We get HBO and don’t watch it/

      • Butch

        I’m not for against and definitely not criticizing anyone for watching it. I’m just surprised to see all the various comments threads about it and I’m curious to know the attraction.

      • Octavio

        Same here. Even El Squeeze passes on it. As for good male frontal nudity, there is or was a series on Stars Network about Leonard da Vinci that offer great close ups of whoppers almost every episode. I’ve never been into dragons and smelly bronze age characters dressed in molting animal skins. Peter Dinklage, however, has a wonderful deep sonorous voice. 🙂

        • bambinoitaliano

          I think Spartacus has the most ‘peenage’ of any series?

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            Yes, that or “Oz” or “Rome.”

          • bambinoitaliano

            Oh yes I totally forgotten about Oz. I suppose one can’t build a series around men and not show peens. I’m looking at you Prison Break. I hope there’s more ‘peenage’ on season 2 of Sense8

          • Cuberly

            SO anxious for season 2 of Sens8. Was reading that they’ve had some production issues. One of the cast was replaced which is a bummer. They say they’ll have a special episode by Dec. But the series won’t kick in till early 2017.

          • Queequeg

            I live in Chicago and read that they are filming some episodes in the city now. Yeah, it won’t air until 2017. I’ll have to binge season again to refresh my memory.

          • Cuberly

            Same here. Come to think of it I need a refresh to the buildup to the cliff hanger ending.

          • Queequeg

            Or Oz.

        • Queequeg

          Try Oz.

          • Octavio

            As I recall they only showed Meloni’s baloney on that show. 🙂

          • Queequeg

            Watch again, they showed almost every actor on the show.

        • McSwagg

          The series you refer to is ‘DaVini’s Demons’. The first season starts out great with fast paced, complex plots and several full frontal views, but of people like the pope. The whopper is the Duke of Sforza in a ‘sauna’ scene. The second season sees DaVinci, joined by Amerigo Vespucci and others on a quest to the ‘City of Stone’ in the Andes of South America. (I’m not giving anything away here, as it’s all heavily fore shadowed in the first season.) Season 2 stretches the verisimilitude of the story’s premise. In season three, the story line goes over the cliff. It seems the series was cancelled and the writers had to wrap up everything quickly.

          I’d rate the first season highly. I was disappointed with the second season, and the third season was a complete waste of time.

          • Octavio

            I’ve only seen a few episodes. It wasn’t scheduled on the DVR or anything. Your synopsis of the plot lines, such as they are, is hysterical. For my full frontal male junk viewing pleasure I’ve been watching every episode of Outlander. Still waiting to see Jamie Fraser’s goods, but his nemesis Black Jack sure packs an impressive club. Nothing to be ashamed about on him. Alas, we’ve seen far more of the female lead than is necessary, but the producers/director are very good at presenting casual glimpses of those actors worth watching. I’m not certain, but I suspect it is a British production and fortunately Brits usually have no problem with getting their kit off. 🙂

          • McSwagg

            Brits usually have no problem with getting their kit off.

            Or, hopefully, their kilt.

      • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

        GOT is the only reason I have HBO.

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          I felt that way about the first three (well, 4 1/2) seasons of American Horror Story. There’s no show right now that has me shivering in anticipation.

          • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

            I have three favorites: Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, and The Americans.

        • oikos

          Us too.

        • Queequeg

          That is why we got it as well, but there are a lot of good things on HBO.

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            I love John Oliver, and they make pretty impressive movies. Saturday’s “All the Way” about LBJ’s work to get the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act passed.

          • Queequeg

            Six feet under was excellent. True Blood was lots of fun, and everything is available on HBO GO.

        • Cuberly

          Same here.

          Veep is pretty good, but I can’t binge watch it. An episode here and there is great.

        • Acronym Jim

          The Leftovers is another under appreciated gem.

          • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

            Thanks, I’ll check it out. Another one I watch is The Outlanders. Caitriona Balfe, the lead actress, is just extraordinary.

      • Goodboy

        Then what are you doing here? Just needed to get that off your chest or something. Lol

      • Giant Monster Gamera

        I’ll admit that I’m in mainly for the social aspects and don’t always follow the plots The BF doesn’t watch but plans to once it is done so I’ll see it again then with better understanding of what is going on.

    • another_steve

      And why American Public Television viewers here are not discussing, instead, last night’s series finale of “Wallander,” starring the brilliant Kenneth Branagh and which left me in an extreme abyss of verklemptness?

      • Gustav2

        take heart, Poldark series two will be back in the Fall.

      • popebuck1

        Speaking just for myself, I’m still broken up about Sister Evangelina.

        • another_steve

          I can’t get the man to tape “Call the Midwife.” Oh lord have I tried, but I can’t. Consequently, I’ve only seen a few episodes of that marvelous series.

          If the British stop making quality TV for us Americans, I’ll have to emigrate.

          • Queequeg

            You can watch it on PBS online. It is an excellent series.

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            Not available outside the US. Here, in Canada, we can watch PBS on TV, but not online. Go figure!

          • Queequeg

            That’s too bad although the Roku PBS channel is pretty limited here, usually only the most recent episodes of any given series.

        • Queequeg

          Was that the season finale? The show wasn’t on last night, at leest in Chicago.

          • popebuck1

            It was the season finale, though like many British series, they also do a special Christmas episode every year.

          • Queequeg

            Somehow my DVR didn’t pick up episode 8. Fortunately I can get it elsewhere. Thanks for the information.

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          We recorded yesterday’s episode, and will watch it tonight. That was quite a surprise when we started watching the series… an excellent program that addresses social issues without blinders.

          • Queequeg

            Absolutely. We started late but caught up. An excellent series.

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          Follow-up: I thought you meant Sister Evangelina’s stroke, which was sad enough. Now, I understand better.

        • Queequeg

          I hadn’t seen the episode before I first read your comment. It was sad to see her go. She was a great character. Even more upsetting was the Thalidomide story line. I’m old enough to remember when that was happening. It didn’t happen here because of the lack of FDA approval, although a few American women got the drug in Europe. Just read about it again. There are only about 500 survivors still around, now in their 50’s.

      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        Yes, the melancholy Swede left us melancholy.

        • another_steve

          It was a wonderfully written series.

          That final scene of Wallander talking to his departed father was so beautifully written.

          So beautiful, and so poignant.

    • Cousin Bleh

      It’s a beloved book series so it has a built-in audience. It also circumvents a lot of tropes from traditional fairy tales and fantasy stories (i.e. the noble do-gooder types routinely get their asses kicked). It’s not afraid to kill off favorite characters, and pretty much every character on the show is at risk. It has a hard R rating, which is rare for historic fantasy. It has a unique way of making villains feel sympathetic.

      There are a lot of things that make GOT a big deal.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Depending on your indulgence of television series. If you watch a lot of shows GOT essentially is at the top of the food chain.

    • popebuck1

      It’s essentially a kick-ass prime time soap with fantasy trappings. There’s lots of juicy plots and betrayals and sex and violence. And George R.R. Martin is a masterful storyteller – he knows just how to undercut all your expectations about how the story is “supposed” to happen. Including, most notoriously, killing off characters that you thought were going to be the hero.

    • Queequeg

      It is a well written series based on well written books, with a complex plot, and complex characters, wth just enough fantasy to make it more interesting.

    • Diogenes Onionpants

      It would be wrong of me to suggest you go to http://www.primewire.ag and watch the show from a streaming site. It would be wrong to point out that with a show as popular as GoT, you can find it posted within two minutes of its having aired (last night’s ep leaked twelve hours early). It would be wrong to note that we don’t have cable but watch pretty much whatever we want in this way

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild
  • He annoyed me until last night.

  • Giant Monster Gamera

    That penis shot was a shock. After seven seasons of almost exclusively boobies, I had to go back and verify what I had seen… several times.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Yeah, the peen shot just seem to come out of nowhere, I suspect the complaints regarding tits may have had something to do with it. Still, it was a funny moment, “I have warts!” LOL

    As for Hodor, OMNEG! What a kick in the feels. I just stared at the screen while the husbotter was literally in tears in my lap. It was such a powerful moment, but also a great closing of the circle, so to speak. HODOR!!!!

    • Cousin Bleh

      I for one appreciate the producers trolling us…

      Hey, here’s a penis, ya’ fucking ingrates. Warts and all.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        EXACTLY! It was just such a great little “here’s a dick for you” moment LOL

      • zeddy303

        And it’s uncut because that’s how they are outside of the US so hahaha.

      • Cuberly

        It was so obvious that’s why they did it, I laughed out loud.

    • bambinoitaliano

      This show is very stingy on tender characters and tender moments. The reunion of Sansa and Jon. And now taken away last night when we see her Lord Baelish scheming mind at work.

      • Cuberly

        But Baelish, love or loathe him, was a very effective tutor for Sansa. I for one loved how she took the power over her own destiny. She was my least favorite character, they seemed to live to torture her and it was getting old.

        She finally said screw this noise. So I say kudos to Sansa.

    • HanyBaal

      Thx for 2 new terms: OMNEG & Husbotter.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        You’re welcome 🙂

    • Palmer

      I’m sorry, but I have to ask what OMNEG stands for.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Oh My Non Existent God.

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          A variation on OMFSM.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Pasta Be Upon You. Ramen.

        • Palmer

          Thank you.

        • Diogenes Onionpants

          Or, more Westeros-specific:
          OMOGAN
          (Oh My Old Gods And New)

          • Acronym Jim

            And of course I read that in a valley girl accent with a vocal fry.

            Too perfect.

    • Cuberly

      That entire scene was done so freaking well. They must have labored like hell on the pacing knowing the impact it would have. They did a marvelous job.

      And yeah, I teared up.

  • So what is the time line? Did Bran affect it worging?

    • Lazycrockett

      The time thing is gonna be a very slippery slope, especially for hard core fans.

    • KnownDonorDad

      Freaking causality loop.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Hold the door!!!!

    • ho da dor

      • Lazycrockett

        Hodor.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Or hold the do do those RWNJ so wanted the trans community to be the current issue.

  • REBELComx

    Today as I came into work, a fellow employee was entering and about to let the door slam behind them, right in my face. I just yelled HODOR! They broke down into tears and held it open.

    • Todd Allis

      Oh wow, I shall have to try that.

  • I was in tears at the end of the episode. Hodor had a purpose in life, an urgent, single task that traveled back in time to cause his malady (in a seizure-like episode, with Bran watching), marking him for the rest of his life, with the only thing he could say from that point, was to repeat that command from the future. Unlike so many others in the Game of Thrones universe, Hodor accomplished his purpose, as he gave his life so that Bran could live – “Hold the Door!”

    Hodor the hero!

    • Strepsi

      It was also tragic because of course Bran and his disobedience CAUSED Hodor’s malady, and caused the need for Hodor in the first place! It makes it that much more tragic for Hodor, who was totally fine and totally innocent. It also makes it so interesting from a big picture of the plot, since it was Bran’s disobedience in the very first episode that set everything else in motion! Bran is a little prick.

      But yeah, I cried.

      • Queequeg

        Disobedience seems to have dire consequences on GOT. If Robb Stark had just married the creepy guy’s daughter, the whole red wedding bloodbath would not have happened, not to mention Ramsey Bolton getting Winterfell.
        I’m sure in that society that Robb could have married and still had a relationship with Oona Chaplin (forgot the character’s name).

      • oikos
    • KnownDonorDad

      Bran lost two devoted protectors – Summer saved Bran outright twice (once when the assassin came for him after his accident, next when the wights attacked when they first arrived at the tree).

      • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

        He had already lost Osha too.

        • KnownDonorDad

          Indeed, and Jojen before that.

      • Diogenes Onionpants

        I was upset when Summer sacrificed himself for Bran. Oh, the innocence of the subsequent few minutes, not yet aware of the sacrifice to come, and the long narrative arc that it would close off.

  • Jim in MN

    Hodor was truly one of the only people on the show w/No machiavellian plots, no killing without being warged, Just love for Bran, and Hodor. RIP to my favourite enormously-sized penised character on G:OT.

  • clay

    Looking forward to some Brienne/Tormund gender-fuck fucking.

    • Queequeg

      For a minute Imread that as Bernie/Trump. Not a pretty thought.

      • clay

        Surely Turmp’s “French Maid” outfit is pretty, and I hear “Western Rider” Bernie is very macho.

    • Brian in Valdosta

      Tormund is my kind of wild thing … erm, wildling.

      • clay

        Are you a bear who knows how to use your teeth, but’s soft down below?

  • Lakeview Bob

    I am glad I have this chance to comment. I admit that I watch this show frequently. But I must say that I must be the only person in the world who doesn’t get or enjoy this show. All of the characters are unnecessarily violent. The women are very unrealistic. They are mostly even more brutal than the men. It seems totally stupid that a 250 lb man would defer to a 125 lb women and even cower. I believe in strong women but these women are angry, violent and poorly portrayed. Basically it seems like the writers are pandering to women in general and feeding the sexual fantasies of hetero men. I guess that is a good thing if it works for you.

    • zeddy303

      You must have missed Sansa in the beginning of the show.

    • KnownDonorDad

      George R. R. Martin takes a page from historical events in his story lines, such as the War of the Roses, which certainly included a lot of politically powerful women.

    • Helen Damnation ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      There’s women in it? Sorry, but I’ll pass. Especially if they nekkid. (Not biased, but I’ve seen enough of teh titties to last a lifetime.)
      ps Why do you watch the show if you don’t get it or enjoy it? Could it be, say, I dunno, the FRONTAL MALE NUDITY?

      • Queequeg

        There’s not that much. Watch it for the story.

    • Queequeg

      Daenerys Is awesome. She started as a weak girl, dominated by her horrible brother, now she is one of the most powerful people on the series, and she has a sense of justice and empathy.

  • WIGuy

    So sad!! Hordor RIP!!!

  • Queequeg

    Aside from Hodor, the other biig reveal was the origin of the white walkers.
    I see the plot lines now starting to come together, with both the Lord of Light and the Ironborns recognizing that Daenerys Is a major force to be reckoned with, and it is better to be with her than against her. Since the books are called “A Song of Ice and Fire”, I’m expecting a conflict between Daenerys and her dragons and the white walkers. We’ll see. It is not easy to predict where this is going, but I’m sure Martin has the entire story arc in place already.

    • KnownDonorDad

      The White Walkers’ origin caught me completely off guard. Wonder if the show is now spoiling the books?

      • Queequeg

        Probably, because the show got ahead of the books. I don’t see much reason to read them now.

    • Acronym Jim

      *SPECULATIVE SPOILER ALERT!*

      Some people are suggesting that Jon will end up riding one of the much larger ice dragons.

      *END SPECULATIVE SPOILER ALERT!*

      • Queequeg

        Hmm.

    • Diogenes Onionpants

      My reaction was, oh, just like how Reagan basically created al Quaeda to fight the soviets in Afghanistan. I’d be surprised if this doesn’t show up in the books, though: too big a plot reveal.

  • KnownDonorDad

    In the midst of so much death and destruction (including The Three-Eyed Raven and all the Children of the Forest guarding him – were they the last of their kind? – and Summer the direwolf, and of course Hodor), there was at least one moment of levity.

    • Acronym Jim

      It’s like closing time at Silverado.

  • Javier Smith

    Hodor… 🙁

  • robirob

    I got a cheap thrill when I recognized Essie Davis (Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries, Babadock) as the Lady Arya is supposed to kill.

    The episode was quite powerful with that ending.

    I am suprised that Sansa refused Littlefinger’s help after all. I thought she would just make him squirm a little, take his army support, but keep him at arm’s lenght.

    So, all the forest elves are dead now? Killed by the monster they created. How poetic.

  • canoebum

    I have not read the books, but am an avid watcher of the series. I was shocked and saddened by the end of the episode, but have to ask, does Hodor come back as a White Walker?

    • The_Wretched

      That’d be beyond what’s in the print books. The show is ahead of the books.

      • Helen Damnation ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        I must say, how can a show be ahead of the books?

        • The_Wretched

          The show’s creators and the author talked about the end points so it’s not entirely willy-nilly. And there isn’t a logical reason why they’d have to match exactly anyway (they don’t already).

    • Lazycrockett

      White Walker Summer!!

  • Helen Damnation ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Joe had me at (and all I needed to hear was) “frontal male nudity”. (Well, read, actually, you nit-pickers). I’m good, god damn it. Bring it on! (Now where is that download link?) You would think a porn addict like myself would be tired of such. Nope.

  • MarkBuster

    Come on. Spoiler alert: It’s GoT! EVERYONE DIES. The writing is kind of weak, he doesn’t know what to do with someone with someone who isn’t in the middle of a story. Don’t get attached to a one night stand, no matter how much you connect.