NEVADA: State Democratic Party Threatens To Prosecute Anybody Who Votes In Both Party Caucuses

Yesterday several sites reported that a Nevada Republican group was encouraging members to vote against Hillary Clinton in the Democratic caucus on Saturday and then also vote in the GOP caucus on Tuesday. Today the Nevada State Democratic Party reacted by promising to prosecute voters who “violate the integrity of the caucus process.” From The Hill:

“After reviewing Nevada law, we believe that registering under false pretenses in order to participate in the Democratic caucuses for purposes of manipulating the presidential nominating process is a felony,” Nevada Democratic Chairwoman Roberta Lange said in a statement.

“The Nevada State Democratic Party will work with law enforcement to prosecute anyone who falsely registers as a Democrat to caucus tomorrow and subsequently participates in the Republican caucuses on Tuesday.”

On Thursday, a College Republicans chapter at University of Nevada, Reno, encouraged its members to exploit a loophole that allows voters to switch party allegiance in time to participate in both party’s caucuses.

The Republican group claims that voting in both caucuses in legal.

  • Gustav2

    Oh dear.

    Now stop this caucus shit and have primaries.

    • bkmn

      I hate caucuses since they are so slanted to the establishment and those who vote the way the establishment wants them to.

      • Gustav2

        Obama won most of the caucus states in 08 because his group was excited and motivated others. Not exactly the establishment choice then.

        • Ninja0980

          He did give a speech at the DNC in 04, it’s not like he was an outsider like Bernie is.

          • JustDucky

            I really don’t understand the “outsider” thing. Bernie has been in Washington for a quarter of a century.

          • j.martindale

            You don’t understand. Outsider mean likely to lose in the general election.

          • Gustav2

            Sen Sanders is the ultimate outsider, not even a Democrat! LOL

          • Lawerence Collins

            He ran independent and has fought hard and has numerous successes. The establishment democrats wanted nothing to do with him.

        • bkmn

          True but what I really dislike is that caucuses disenfranchise people who do shift work during the times of the caucus. They can get time to vote in the general but not to attend a caucus.

          • Gustav2

            We will mail in our vote for the primary in Ohio, can’t mail in a caucus vote

      • Octavio

        I don’t like inoculations. But I’d rather suffer the quick sting of a needle than succumb to influenza. 🙂

    • Mike in Texas

      My state has open primaries. Voters can vote in one or the other regardless of party affiliation or lack of party affiliation. But we can only vote in one primary, not both. They are held at the same time in the same precincts. It seems like having primaries/caucuses on different days is inviting fraud. We do have caucuses, but they take place only after the polls are closed on primary day. There are a few more delegates at stake in the caucuses.

      • Gustav2

        We in Ohio can switch parties the day of the election, too, and just one vote.

      • It’s my understanding that as of last year the caucus portion for the Democratic Party had been done away with and all we have now is the primary and not both. Has that been changed back?

    • another_steve

      And while we’re doing election reform, let’s do away with that ridiculous “Electoral College” thing.

      What the fuck is that monstrosity all about?

      • Gustav2

        Especially since Republicans keep pushing to award EV’s according to congressional district.

      • JustDucky

        And gerrymandering.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Well, right now the Electoral College is working in the Democrats favor. Because it takes lots and lots of Mississippis and Alaskas and Nebraskas to equal one California or New York. So, while I agree in principle, I’m not in any hurry to see that reformed.

        • Owen

          Not really. Small states carry more weight in the EC system because of every state’s senators being counted. A state like Wyoming has a lot more electoral votes per population than a state like California or New York.

    • Gustav2
    • Cuberly

      ^^^^^This a thousand times^^^^^^

    • JD

      Stop the whole nonsense and join the world of 30 day election periods … all the money wasted in this extraordinarily damaging process could be better spent

    • We’ve finally gotten rid of our caucuses here in Texas for the Democratic Party. Until last year we had both the primary voting followed by caucus events.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    What? Republicans cheating? Oh goodness, next you’ll tell me that water is wet.

  • When you can’t win, cheat! That’s the Republican way.

  • S1AMER

    Good for the NDP.

    Yet again, we have proof that Republicans would much, much rather run against Sanders in November than against Hillary. This should be an object lesson to any Democrats who don’t understand why primaries and caucuses matter — make a big mistake in winter/spring, lose in November (and for years thereafter).

    • Lawerence Collins

      Far from true. She’s in fear of Sanders. I saw her latest total attack print ad on him yesterday.
      Her latest tv ad comes a cross more as an Sanders ad. Sanders is more electable than her.

    • i’m interested in the logic that goes, “Rethugs know what they’re doing, and we should fear them” at the level of presidential politics. i’m not sure i can agree with that.

    • TrollopeReader

      that’s why they wanted to run against obama in 2008…..and obama (correctly) ran against hillary’s unelectability ,…see this October 2007 (oddly familiar with same time in 2015): “The Democratic Race: Conditions Auspicious for Sen. Clinton to Win —— Gallup’s 2007 national presidential polling strongly points to Clinton winning the 2008 Democratic nomination. Barring something unusual or otherwise unexpected, she is well positioned for the 2008 Democratic primaries. Obama has not been an insignificant rival: he came within single digits of tying Clinton for the lead at two points this spring. But he has recently lost ground and is now in the weakest position relative to Clinton that he has been in all year.”

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/102277/gallup-election-review-october-2007.aspx

  • bkmn

    Remember when you talk about voter fraud that it is almost always the GOP behind the fraud.

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    • Rambie

      Well if it’s legal, maybe the Democrats should tell everyone to go vote in the Republican one too. See how they like that.

      • bkmn

        I believe the issue is that the rules are different for the Democratic caucuses than they are for the GOP caucuses.

        • Rambie

          It was more in jest.

      • Jeffrey

        I don’t know if that would work. The Repubs want Sanders as an opponent. But I can’t think of a republican that would be easier than the other.

        • Joe knows who I am.

          That’s great! More likelihood of him becoming President then! 🙂

          • MaryOGrady

            I agree. Vanishingly small likelihood + 0.0001% = Still vanishingly small likelihood.

          • Joe knows who I am.

            We’ll see.

          • Gene

            the odds of a President Sanders < 0 %
            time to face reality, and stop his hurting her chances of winning against the republican nominee

          • Joe knows who I am.

            The Hillary people are really getting fearful these days.

        • Rambie

          Trump. Not because he’d be “easier” but the longer he’s on the campaign the more harm he does to the GOP’ers.

          • Dramphooey

            Careful what you wish for.

        • j.martindale

          Vote for Carson. Keep the Clown car full until the bitter end.

      • It doesn’t work that way because Republican registration has already closed but Democrats have same-day registration.

    • TrollopeReader

      that’s true. almost every time a republican attorney general / secretary of state / governor investigates the reams and reams of “voter fraud” … they wind up with one or two people …usually republicans.

  • another_steve

    Is this Nevada or Illinois?

    (sorry, Illinois sisters and brothers…couldn’t resist…)

    • Gene

      there was not mention of voting for him 7 times with multiple fake ids, some of the dead and buried, so it OBVIOUSLY was not about ILL…tsk tsk

  • Gene

    pouring salt in a wound gets old quick, so only once will I point out the obvious, and don’t mean to pour the salt (though if THIS does not back up the arguments of why to vote for Hillary, WHAT the HELL else to you need!?!?!)
    ..the republithugs are urging people to vote FOR Sanders because they know that they can BEAT Sanders in the General election.
    .
    that alone, in the cold hard world of reality, tells us who to vote for (hint, this person has a uterus)

    • Gene

      strange…certain political cartoon afficianiados seem not to be around for this one…at least not yet.
      hummmmm

    • Octavio

      Well, if you’ve been keeping tabs, I HAVE AND IMAGINARY VAGINA! And I agree with your uterus 100% 🙂

      • Gene

        I was referring to the candidate…but, had nature so deigned it, I would have been proud to have a uterus 🙂
        knowing some rugby and softball players and marines with them, I personally take “you throw like” “run like” or “fight like” a girl as a great compliment 🙂

        • GeoffreyPS

          My line is “I’d say I throw like a girl, but that is an insult to girls.”

          • Gene

            hey…would YOU get into a fight with Paula or Chicago Dyke?myself…I enjoy my teeth in their current arrangement and testicles as they currently are located. Never underestimate a woman cornered. I mentioned in a post below a reference to my life when in dental school…my first rotation was with maxillofacial surgeons, and I saw women who, confronted with men who had more mass and muscle on their side, got creative in defense of themselves and their children, even if they were just “small girls”…I also…I am sad to say, left weeping some days…at the things “men” (so called) do to women, and children, out of frustration…cowardice..cruelty..and found a respect for women, and the multiple layers of prejudice they face from everyone from health care professionals to police “now…honey..what did you do to provoke him?” to family “just be quiet and suffer…its what women do” (such bullshit) that has stayed with me to this day.

    • Todd20036

      I have a uterus.

      I keep it in a jar on my desk.

      I’m not normal.

      • Treant

        My vet also keeps a uterus on his desk in a jar. It’s from a chihuahua who was pregnant and had to be spayed (she had conceived seven puppies from a much larger male and was going to lose all of them, and probably her own life as well).

        So you and he can hang out.

        • Gene

          I assume your vet is not a catholic.
          and, a decent…if…freakin’ odd, human being.
          ..
          and the WORST fucking interior decorator…like…EVUURR

          • Treant

            I don’t know his religion, if any…his name implies Protestant of some kind, but one never knows. And he keeps it obscured and only shows it to people he thinks can handle it.

            I went outside and threw up. I am not internal organ tolerant, but he didn’t know that since I’m a science-oriented sort. I just prefer math and astronomy and plant biology. Things without gore.

          • Gene

            ahh…got it.
            myself..I would have been good.
            in an earlier life, when I was in dental school (yes..dental school…think Bill Murray..”you’ll be a dentist!”) I had good and dear friends in the medical school (the programs shared some classes…anatomy, physiology..histology..etc) who worked with the morgue/morticians. the city was by a large river, and late at night, I would get the call ‘we got a floater off the Kennedy bridge..need some help here…the gold in the teeth is yours if your here first”)
            .
            nothing fazed us…
            and…you can see how, eventually, I ended up in..finance 😉
            (( ps..we needed the gold for casting crowns..its not QUITE as predatory as it sounds ))

      • Gene

        I like you
        your a goddamn freak…
        but, I LIKE you 🙂

      • pickypecker

        Normal would be passé, darling. We love you the way you are!!

      • sherman

        Umm, in addition to right wingers, some law enforcement might also be monitoring this blog. 🙂

    • Lawerence Collins

      Yet many polls show Sanders doing better than Clinton against the GOP thugs.

      • Gene

        outliers…and, trust me…trust the republicans for that matter…he is DOGMEAT when they pull all they have out against him. if he is nominated, it will be a 40 state to 10 electoral rout.
        nto celebrating it..just facing the realty of it. most people are not as political as us, and barely know the man yet…he has more baggage than a Pullman train car, and the republicans are salivating over it. they say as much.
        there will be no revolution. in either direction..but, a slow and incremental movement one way or the other. lets make sure its the CORRECT way.

        • Gene

          PS…on a more human and personal level…your health…you are well? you have been through the ringer..I hope (and being religious, pray) all is well?

          • Lawerence Collins

            Not sure who you are addressing. If me I’m terrified of the GOP thugs or Hillary wining. This country is on the edge. She is just more of the same. That said I will vote for her.

          • Gene

            DONT be afaid. my husband would be DEAD if not for Obama care. he is uninsurable without the “must cover” part of the ACA. She really IS the best chance to keep, and expand it. he has some great ideas…IF we were a European welfare state..(we are not) or Canada (we are not…love you billbear!). Were he the nominee…the republicnas would truly rip him up…BAD..this story proves as much..they WANT him to be our nominee.
            she is 1) not evil 2) pro coverage for all. she is really NOT more of the same.
            3) yes..since you described your situation, I find myself..well…overwhelmed..with RESPECT. you have been working since you were SO young. you have faced so much..and, are not broken. KNOW THIS! when I so strongly support HER, I do it because, as a man who understand finance..who works weekly as a volunteer, and as a trustee of a homeless shelter..as a man who deals with people in hospice..and as someone who knows what the other side is planning for us all….I promise you. SHE is the best chance we have to avoid disaster..and no..she is no monster. she is a good woman. and will be a good president. take comfort in that…and be well. all my best to you young friend..and, my respect. I mean that. cause..damn…you have EARNED it.

          • Cuberly

            Vote in the mid-terms too! Find out who the school board candidates are and make good choices for them as well!

          • Gene

            see my post below…its way down there..but address that..and my hopes for your good heatlh.

        • Lawerence Collins

          Yet you can’t/don’t bother to list one! Did Hillary evolve on her position of Blacks? In a speech she gave in 94. She called black youth super predators. Ones that must be brought to heel. Sounds like code racist rhetoric. It sounds so disingenuous her taking multi millions of dollars from Wall St and huge corporations.
          She was to have fundraisers the week of Newhampshire with Wall St and big corporations. But she cancelled them. If she can’t be bought. Why did she cancel?

          • Gene

            they ALL have big corporate sponsors..and, surprise..most Americans expect that..and just don’t give a shit.
            its not 94…and she has the OVERWHELMING support of the African American community here in GA and in SC…I am here..and involved…and a member of the NAACP…trust me..I know.
            as per his postions? lets start with the 80s comment about all but doing away with the military..his close friendships with communists…his earlier, pre “democratic socialist” party work…
            those three alone…that’s enough to let the other side EAT him ALIVE
            perhaps it should not be that way…but, its politics..it is what it is.

    • Dramphooey

      Reality is if you can’t win the primary you can’t win the general. Anyone who thinks if Clinton can just get through the primary she is a shoo-in in the general are fooling themselves.

  • Alex in Idaho

    The Repubs here have a closed primary; voter participation is waaaaay down, and the batshittiness of the candidates is waaaaay up. They can’t even get their own (non-crazy) people out to vote! They did this to keep the Dems from sneaking in and voting for the biggest loser/crackpot, and it sure backfired!

  • talldoggy

    I have no idea how the DNC can have any credibility with the ‘ethical and legal’ way to run a caucus – after awarding Hillary all of the super delegates after NH.

    I am a democrat and Bernie Sanders supporter and find both the DNC an the RNC to be despicable organizations.

    • Gustav2

      Dear me.

    • Mike Rasor

      You do know that’s not how super delegates work, right? The party doesn’t award them they are free agent individuals who get to individually decide whom they support.

      • Cuberly

        Many of which have been working in the salt mines for decades. This isn’t their first dog an pony show.

    • JustDucky

      You don’t know how super delegates work, do you? That’s awkward. Here’s the Wikipedia page:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

      That should help.

      • danolgb

        Any process a Berner doesn’t understand is obviously a conspiracy to help Hillary.

      • talldoggy
      • talldoggy

        What you neglect to mention is that super delegates are selected by the party – the selection process determines the outcome. Much like heteronormsm in promotions at work – your boss promotes bob because bob has kids like him – Bob of course hires Bill – because he is like him.

        Also – superdelegates have only existed in the DNC pricess since 1984. Nor prior. Control function.

        • Treant

          Incorrect again. Most superdelegates are elected officials. The Wikipedia page lists them out, and what current office they hold. Listed among them are all House and Senate Dems.

          Lose the office, lose the superdelegate status.

        • JustDucky

          Treant pretty much covered it but because he didn’t spell it out for you, I will:

          Bernie is a superdelegate.

          Also – Yep. Tad Devine, Bernie’s top adviser, was instrumental in the creation of the superdelegate process to prevent another George McGovern.

    • Gene

      seriously…they are following the rules…NOT cheating. Superdelegates were designed by one of Sanders primary advisors, did you know that? they serve a purpose! they keep the trump like extremes out..(on both sides)!

      • Octavio

        I did not know that. Than=x.

      • talldoggy

        That ignores the facts. Yes – super- delegates are supposed to follow the vote line – but historically they have often been swayed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokered_convention

        Not only has this happened – you stack the deck in your favor by nominating people who stand on a particular side. It’s the checks and balance system against the voting public.

        This happens more often than you think.

        • Treant

          His head consultant created the superdelegate process. Bernie knew what he was getting into when he wandered into the Democratic Party.

          Also, this is a Primary, not an election. The party representatives (most themselves elected) are given a say in who will represent their party–about 12% or so.

          If he didn’t want to play by the rules, he shouldn’t have signed up as a Democrat. But you can’t say he didn’t know or understand the rules, merely that he’s unable to play effectively by them.

          However, it’s quite early to have any discussion on a brokered convention and many superdelegates–which are not bound–would probably change their votes in the event of a clear win. In the event of a close one? That remains to be seen.

          Ask again around March 15th. I think, by then, Bernie will be worried more about surviving April than with having a marginal number of winning delegates. Super Tuesday is getting more insurmountable for him by the day.

          • names and links are always nice.

          • Treant

            I’ve ceased to give them to Sanders supporters as they’re never read, debunked with the nonsensical “Establishment” moniker, or simply ignored. The data is out there. Google it if you wish.

          • i was just referring to protocol on polite blogs. when you assert something, names and links are nice.

          • TrollopeReader

            Treant has been a bit more prissy since he changed his name … probably upset that Bernie’s rising as Hillary’s falling …

          • Treant

            Actually, just thoroughly fed up with demands for references from people too lazy to look them up themselves.

            Here’s a nice linky for you if you like: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/berned-up

          • JustDucky

            Tad Devine is the consultant Treant is referring to. And here’s the link with the best info I could find:

            http://andrewtobias.com/column/everything-you-need-to-know-about-superdelegates/

          • Treant

            Thanks, I don’t bother any longer.

          • thanks for that! it seems like the 30 odd years since the “superdelagate” process being in place means that it’s unlikely this guy was thinking about bernie when he participated in the process to reform and define it.

          • JustDucky

            No problem. =)

            And no, of course not. But superdelegates don’t suddenly become bad just because they might be disadvantageous to a particular candidate. Changing the rules to help one of the candidates would actually be a lot more shady than using the same rules that have been in place for the past 30 years.

          • i’ve been complaining about them since before Bernie’s hair went all white. really, i have. i don’t like this process and i’ve been pretty clear about the many, many reasons why. you’re right! you can’t exactly change horses mid-race. this is the Process We Have, not the one we should.

            what i keep arguing is that it’s important for leaders to get busy reforming the process. i don’t know how to explain how that should be done. but i know it must be, if democracy is going to survive.

            the corruption of a thing isn’t always obvious. people can suddenly discover they only have a short time to live. i worry, in a similar way, that we are ignoring the increasingly obvious signs that our “democracy” is changing into something else, something not healthy to the body politic.

          • JustDucky

            Sounds like we’re pretty much on the same page.

            I agree that a lot of things need to change badly; I find Republican dominance at the state and local levels and the host of voter suppression laws they have passed particularly alarming. Hopefully a more liberal Supreme Court will help undo some of the worst of that, but the Democratic Party has seriously dropped the ball on politics where most legislation actually happens.

            I’m ambivalent about the superdelegates, though. McGovern was a disaster I don’t care to see repeated and while I’m not in love with the solution, I don’t know what a better one would be. (And just to be clear, I am absolutely not equating Bernie to McGovern. I’m not confident either of our candidates will win in November but I am confident that either of them would make a good showing.)

      • Cuberly

        Super delegates helped elect Obama, fun fact.

        • Treant

          Technically, but 2008 was a most unusual year. Two states–Michigan was one–had their delegates thrown out for violating the rules on primary dates. Both of those states were strong Clinton backers.

          Clinton ended up winning the popular vote, but Obama had more delegates.

          Clinton also released her superdelegates in early June, well before the convention, and most then voted for Obama. 55 superdelegates, left Clinton earlier than that.

          Really, the unfaithful superdelegate myth is just that–a myth. Most of Clinton’s superdelegates stuck with her to the end when she released them.

    • Capritaur

      Most voters don’t exist in your echo chamber of low information, spurious conclusion, and confirmation bias.

      • talldoggy
      • talldoggy

        And I’d be as upset if it were either candidate. Same if it happened to Hillary. Same during the Bush / Gore IMO improperly ruled case.

        • JustDucky

          So you’re upset that superdelegate Bernie has pledged to vote for Candidate Bernie before Vermont has even voted, right?

          • Treant

            Also, a condition where the superdelegate was not in the Democratic party when he was named a superdelegate…but let’s not go there.

            Sanders has registered as an Independent again to run for the Senate in 2018, so there’s that, too.

    • Friday

      Superdelegates in the the DNC aren’t ‘awarded’ by the party, they’re named well ahead of time and they make their own choices. Bernie *is* a superdelegate, (Though I’m not sure that applies when he’s running himself.)

  • Michael Smith

    But I thought only Democrats voted twice in elections? I thought this is why we had to crackdown on voter fraud.

  • pickypecker
  • another_steve

    I hope they fumigate the Republican caucus sites afterwards.

  • Mark

    If ya can’t win fairly, cheat. That’s the mantra of the republican party.

  • joe ho

    the GOP wants Bernie to be the nominee? i can’t imagine why!

  • Ninja0980

    And the man who would be reviewing that would be right wing AG Adam Laxalt, who won in 2014 because our base didn’t turn out.

    • Octavio

      It’s odd having a governor (Sandoval) who is sort of reasonable and then Adam Laxalt as AG. They’re supposedly butt buddies (politically), however, it’s still like getting water and oil to homogenize. 🙁

      • Ninja0980

        It’s a shame Ross Miller didn’t win, he could have easily been NV’s next senator or governor down the line instead of him.
        But that is on our base who doesn’t turn out and the DNC and others not paying attention to down state races until recently.

        • Octavio

          I’m doing the best I can to help unseat Heller. What a major mormon douce. He hasn’t met an Eagle Forum recommendation he hasn’t liked.

          • Ninja0980

            Such a pity the Democrat running in 2012 had some baggage, otherwise he would have likely been gone.

          • Octavio

            Our contenders (on the Dem side) to replace Reid ain’t looking so good. I fear there is a bit of disarray at work here in Clark County.

          • Ninja0980

            That what happens when you neglect the state parties the way Democrats have.
            Not to mention Harry Reid wanting to maintain his power did his best to clamp down on any upcomers that could primary him.
            Bottom line, 2010 and 2014 wiped out the Democratic bench in NV and many other places, which is why I fear we will lose many winnable races just like we lost last year.
            Also, until our base takes midterms seriously, we could run out the best person in the world and it wouldn’t matter.
            I hope we can take the Senate back this year but I’m not holding my breath.

          • Tor

            Except for that pesky Affordable Care Act.

          • Octavio

            Did he vote for it? I didn’t notice. He’s currently keeping company with Nevada assemblymen/women interested in protecting “Religious Freedumb.” I get canvassed for this new cause of his a lot these days.

          • Tor

            Wait!! I was going to comment on irony, but I think the ACC was invented by the Heritage Foundation, not Eagle Forum. Snarky comment withdrawn.

  • Treant

    Well, that’s a breath of fresh air. In most states, you vote in one or the other, not in both…and one registered person does not, in any reading of the Constitution, get two votes. Ever.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • tristram

      Our folks should take a good look at that picture, thing of all the other states where the same sort of thing is happening, and then look ahead to the likelihood of a President Cruz/Rubio/Trump and two houses of Congress controlled by right-wing Republicans.

    • Treant

      I hope Georgia has a lot of money for the lawsuits.

      • Sam_Handwich

        #BoycottGeorgia

      • Ninja0980

        Kentucky as well since they passed their separate but equal clerk forms.

    • MDB

      Paranoid fuckweasel zealots !!! I wonder how many of the Yea votes were Southern Baptist douchenozzles ???

      • Sam_Handwich

        douchenozzlery abounds!

        • MDB

          I searched 15 of the Yeas and found 1 Presbyterian,
          2 Methodists and 12 Baptists. Couldn’t stomach any more
          white-faced racist homophobic douchenozzlery.

  • Cuberly

    Picking your opponent. It’s been a GOP tactic since Bern entered the race.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-19/republican-operatives-are-trying-to-help-bernie-sanders

    They REALLY don’t want to see Hillz on that debate stage across from one of their fumbling dumblers.

  • talldoggy

    I posted this once – but it was taken down – so I’ll moderate it a bit – neither the RNC NOR DNC has any business discussing ethics after the DNC awarded superndelegates to Hillary for NH – when Bernie clearly won. I find it awful that either party would deliberately manipulate an elections outcome.

    • Treant

      It’s too bad you didn’t read up on the superdelegate process, which I will advise you do before discussing supposed “ethical” “problems.”

      The DNC did not and does not award them to Clinton, the superdelegates are free to make whatever choice they feel best. Sanders simply didn’t convince them that he was the best candidate. Don’t blame the DNC for Sanders’ inability to convince his own coworkers of his Presidential chops.

  • M Jackson

    Is this the same group that made up the lie of ‘voter fraud?

    • DaddyRay

      One and the same – then they use that lie to pass voter id laws

      • Ninja0980

        Which we all know are just voter suppression laws.

  • DaddyRay

    I hope thousands of them end up getting prosecuted, means they will not be eligible to vote in the general

    • Treant

      Total Dem voters in the NV caucuses in 2008 were only 10,000. Republicans about 40,000. So a couple grand would be quite a lot!

  • Jeffrey

    Another example of how badly republicans do not want to face Hillary.

    • Htowndude

      She has negative favorablity compared to all the other candidates from Quinnipiac:
      “Sanders has the highest favorability rating of any candidate and the highest scores for honesty and integrity, for caring about voters’ needs and problems and for sharing voters’ values. He ties Clinton and Trump on having strong leadership qualities and falls behind Clinton and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush on having the right kind of experience to be president. ”
      http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2324

      • lymis

        She also has been the direct target of GOP smears for longer than any other candidate in the race, first as a candidate’s wife, then as First Lady, then as senator, then as Secretary of State, now as a candidate in her own right.

        There have probably been more negative lies told about her than about any other candidate in the race. That’s going to affect favorability. I’m not saying she’s either perfect nor cuddly, but I’m personally going to weigh that fact into opinion polls.

  • Ninja0980

    Meanwhile in Utah…
    http://www.sltrib.com/home/3557674-155/utah-lawmakers-bill-state-should-be
    In case you’re wondering, the asshole who is pushing this bill authored the state’s marriage ban so seeing this crap from shouldn’t be a shock.

  • coram nobis

    Well, after all the GOP caterwauling about voter fraud …

  • Mark

    Reminds me of “Living for the city”..

    Here. Here. Run this across the street for me…..

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Once again confirming the second Republican motto: When you can’t win fair, CHEAT!

  • j.martindale

    I like Bernie, and agree with a lot of things he says. But I really don’t want him as the candidate in November. What I think a lot of Bernie supporters simply don’t understand is that the reason he is doing nearly as well as he has so far in this race is that Clinton has her hands tied, and cannot really attack him. And the reason for this is that if she gets the nomination, she will need his supporters to win in November. So she has had to avoid scathing attacks.

    But make no mistake: he is a horribly flawed candidate. His history as a Socialist will be used against him. And while he could manage to defend himself from Rethugs quite well in Vermont, the most liberal state in the Union, he would have an impossible hurdle trying to win swing states like North Carolina and Virginia. And when the Republicans start attacking him, they will have absolutely no reason to hold back like Clinton has.

  • Orly

    As usual, they can’t actually win a fair fight. But I’m sure jeebus would approve.

  • sticking strictly to the topic of the post, it deeply offends me when any group advocates cheating in the electoral process. it’s why i’m so heartbroken about our democracy right now; i don’t think most people understand how it’s a growing cancer in so many states.

    children learn early: cheating is wrong. in dodgeball, on a science test, and also in politics. and yet some people openly advise it, for nefarious purposes.

    friends and family died, or were beaten with an inch of that, for the right to vote. i used to take it so very seriously. i still do. i just worry so much that the corruption of the process is too far gone to fix.

    • Treant

      Technically, they didn’t think it was illegal. Unethical, sure. The party’s simply clarifying that this is voter fraud.

      Good luck getting a conviction, or even a charge, on it, though. That’s extremely rare.

  • Rod Steely

    VOTER FRAUD! Quick send in the Republicans to fix it… Oh wait…

  • Max_1

    Gee… Wait for Ann Coulter finding this out.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Yawn.

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