Dr. Stabby’s Campaign Chair: Reinstate DADT [AUDIO]

CNN reports:

Ben Carson’s new campaign chairman, retired Major Gen. Robert F. Dees, says it’s time for the U.S. to reevaluate military policies like letting women serve in combat positions and allowing openly gay troops to serve.

Carson is debuting his “reinvigorated” campaign after a holiday shakeup that included the departure of a handful of top advisers and new leadership, including the recently promoted Dees, who sat down with Carson for an interview Monday with CNN’s Jake Tapper at his Alexandria campaign headquarters.

The retired Army major general has in the past been outspoken about the nation’s military, blasting “social engineering” he contends is degrading the national defense.

Under President Barack Obama, the military has allowed gays and lesbians to openly serve in the military and opened up all combat positions to women — who were previously banned from serving in certain roles.

Below is audio of Dees’ comments at the FRC’s 2015 Values Voter Summit.

  • bkmn

    Don’t tell me, he is a fundie Xtain. I would expect nothing less from Dr. Grifter Stabby.

    • You may have hit upon something:

      “Dees argues in ‘Resilient Nations’ (2014) that the greatest threat to America is not terrorism or China or Russia but rather the decline of its ‘spiritual infrastructure.’ Dees writes: At the height of Roman decadence, good became evil and evil became good …. One can rightly argue that the United States is frightfully close to a similar fate. Prayerfully, it is not too late.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Dees

      • Yes, and the Xtians and the right wing is doing an excellent job of turning good into evil and evil into good.

      • bkmn

        Yup, still in that cold war mentality (ie. stuck in the 1950’s) that characterizes so many on the far right and especially fundie Xtains.

      • Gustav2

        Of course, we must ignore the fact the Empire didn’t fall until after it became ‘Christian.’

    • Stev84

      You’d be scared to death if you learned the real number of military officers just like him. Especially in top positions.

      • bkmn

        I’m well aware that most of the older military guys are hard-core Xtains, especially if they are in the Air Force and spent any time in Colorado Springs where it is virtually a requirement to attend church services.

  • 3-Star

    May I assume removing “darkies” from the mainstream military is next?

    • clay

      You know, social engineering, like integrating faster than civilian employers did.

    • Todd20036

      No, no. We need them for Operations “Human Shield” and “Get Behind the Darkies”
      That’s from the South Park movie, in case you missed it.

      • David Walker

        And, if memory serves, an episode of M*A*S*H.

  • well, at least this one has the decency not to go running around in his old uniform while spouting off. so there’s that.

    Stabby has no chance. never will. i don’t know how many times i have to say it. he’s black. thugs will not, even reluctantly, turn out for a negro. he’s nothing more than the center of a carnival of grifters.

  • PeterC

    Dees sounded like there is a good reason why he is “retired”. He definitely does not understand the terminology that he was talking about, or he is just spouting some propaganda. “no facts required”.

    • clay

      I’m assuming a good reason why he is retired is something he has in common with (former) neuro-surgeon Carson.

  • Sam_Handwich

    not only that – Prez Benzo will put Jebus on the 20 dollar bill!

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      50. Mary Magdalene gets the 20, that two bit hooker.

      • Bluto

        They’ll put mohammed on the $1 bill because they know exactly what the ramifications of that would be. Holy war, it’s what they want.

  • oikos
  • Ninja0980

    I have several friends (most are getting out soon) that are still serving in the military, navy etc.
    They have yet to see any of the “horrible” things the repeal of DADT was supposed to bring and they never will.
    The whole ban was about bigotry and nothing more, just as the attempts to bring it back are.

    • Cackalaquiano

      Old people and their fear of the “other.” But I can’t excuse someone at the level of a major general for that mindset. He needs to think rationally, look at data, and realize the world is moving forward. Get out of the damn way.

      • Ninja0980

        My neighbor was a retired Lt. Colonel and he was a racist, sexist bigoted jackass who never accepted that fact.
        The world became a better place when he breathed his last, that’s for sure.

        • David Walker

          I didn’t know my father lived in your neighborhood.

  • DumbHairyApe

    Why is it “social engineering” only when progressive policies are implemented? Aren’t they also trying to engineer their societal ideals with regressive policies???

    • Ninja0980

      Indeed, it’s just fine and dandy when they try to turn the U.S. Military into a band of Christian foot soldiers but anything else is bad.

      • David Walker

        And fly guys. Don’t forget the fun at the Air Force Academy.

    • PLAINTOM

      No silly thats God’s engineering, you heathen. 🙂

      • clay

        Abstinence-only education is intelligent design!

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    What a jackass. There have always been LGBT service members. They bleed the same as straight service members. This man’s discomfort in dealing with gay people is no reason to reinstate an offensive policy. And as the military didn’t fall apart, despite what bigots predicted, this retired man should pick up golf clubs instead of mics. His opinion is outdated, antiquated, and just wrong.

    • Gustav2

      but…but,,,but,,,you can’t be a good soldier unless you believe in the Fundy Gawd.

      • Wynter Marie Starr

        LOL. Right. I guess reading about other types of military members is beyond his ability.

        • Gustav2

          A friend’s marine son had to switch units after basic because the shit (some physical) he was receiving for being an atheist and not joining in the Jesus stuff. He was ready to quit, but is doing fine now and his younger brother will join him this year.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            As an atheist myself, that is very troubling to hear.

            I don’t usually go around proclaiming my atheism because there is so much bias. Also, I find people who feel the need to tell me immediately that they are christian obnoxious and annoying. When people who know me and like me find out, they tend to be more accepting, but the disapproval thrown at me bothers me. I don’t ask people to justify their faith, but I am constantly asked to justify my non belief. When people do attack my non belief , I feel free to attack their mythology. Which, ironically, they don’t like.

            I hope your friend’s sons continue to do well.

          • David Walker

            But by not believing in Jeebus, he was threatening unit cohesion or something. By not praising Jeebus, he was being an individual and, as the athletic and motivational speaker cliche goes, there is no i in team. Which is bullshit, but who’s keeping score?

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            So, no Jews allowed either. As far as teams go, David, I’ll bet you’ve been on a team or two. It’s galling because even on teams, cream rises and crap sinks. There’s always one person who ends up doing the lion’s share of the work while others coast on their coattails.

            If I sound bitter, it’s because I’m the one that usually carries a team and I’ll bet it’s the same for you. I can count on one hand where I’ve done teamwork in which all members participated equally.

          • David Walker

            Yes. Well. There’s that.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            LOL, I’d be on your team any time. Intelligence is a good indicator for effective team members.

          • Man_in_the_mists

            I like to reply “But there is an I in victory”.

  • Nicholas Rostov

    He’s retired and we’re paying his pension.

    • Stev84

      Few generals truly “retire”. Most get high paying defense contractor jobs where they then use their old military buddies to make money for the company. It’s pure corruption.

  • sw42

    You know, in the past we could all talk in the abstract about the Very Awful Things that would happen if women were in combat and gays would serve openly. Now there are simply too many stories of units that only care if their gay brother is a dependable soldier. And we have women who serve with courage and distinction in combat. And then we have the lovely Adrianna Vorderbruggen, who straddled both worlds and gave her life. Sorry, pal, your ideology simply isn’t borne out by reality.

    • Chris Baker

      Correct. In the past, they could only point to the hypothetical “what-ifs”. “Gays will rape the poor, helpless straight soldiers”, “Women will start crying if they have to kill someone”, etc. But now that none of these things has come to pass, there is no valid argument to bringing the bans back.

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    • David Walker

      Meh. Details.

    • YakHerder

      “Sorry, pal, your ideology simply isn’t borne out by reality.”

      I deeply appreciate your sentiment, but you may not be familiar with how ideology works…it certainly doesn’t let pesky things like “reality” stand in the way of a good ol’ freak-out…

  • TJay229

    Move along… There’s nothing to see here. Dr. Stabby will NEVER reside at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

  • Mark

    That ship has sailed you idiot and no one fucking cares.

  • Cuberly

    But but….there was that one military Chaplin that did a thing that was ..eh..christiany…..and he got in trouble..and uh..um…SOCIAL ENGINEERING!!!!…..uh……SQUIRREL!

    Did you know that if you prick one Christian they all spontaneously start bleeding out the ass? Yup, scientific fact!

    • David F.

      Then a couple of well placed cacti will solve our problem.

      • Chucktech

        “Dear LORD, have mercy, I’m bleeding out my ass!!”

  • bambinoitaliano

    Shake up, shake down and shake it all around. You zip up and step away from the urinal. You are done pissing Dr. Stabby. Now get lost!

  • clay

    Is Armstrong Williams afraid of getting drafted?

    • BobSF_94117

      Well, you know what happens when you go into the military. Oh, wait, that’s prison. Never mind.

  • Gustav2

    Robert F. Dees was born in 1950 so was too young to hear the anti-social engineering argument to Pres Truman’s recognition of other citizens in the services.

    • clay

      But not too young to have to missed its most successful period as a young military officer.

      • Gustav2

        …was appointed and currently serves as Associate Vice President of Military Outreach and Director, Institute for Military Resilience, at Liberty University

        Dees in 2015 was the “main national security adviser” to presidential candidate Ben Carson. Dees has argued a theme that has been adopted by Carson linking national security to spiritual values. Dees argues in Resilient Nations (2014) that the greatest threat to America is not terrorism or China or Russia but rather the decline of its “spiritual infrastructure.” Dees writes:

        “At the height of Roman decadence, good became evil and evil became good …. One can rightly argue that the United States is frightfully close to a similar fate. Prayerfully, it is not too late.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Dees

        • Chucktech

          Associate Vice President of Military Outreach and Director, Institute for Military Resilience, at Liberty University. Well, doesn’t that just figure…

          “At the height of Roman decadence, good became evil and evil became good …. One can rightly argue that the United States is frightfully close to a similar fate. Prayerfully, it is not too late.”

          Yeah, the pestilence of Christianity taking root and drinking out of lead cups’ll do that to ya…

          • tcinsf

            I’m always amazed at someone purporting to be a “scholar” making the Roman decadence argument. Rome was Christian when it fell, most of us know that.

          • Steverino

            And we all know that “Roman decadence” is “code” for homosexuality.

            Christ, I thought that long debunked and tired old meme died in the 1970s.

          • David Walker

            Nay, non-believer. It may have died in the ’70s, but it achieved resurrection in the ’80s. Praise Jeebus.

        • Goodboy

          Geez and here I thought it was the embracing of Christianity that was the cause because Rome was always pretty decedent.

  • David L. Caster

    Great move Carson, hiring a blithering idiot as your campaign chairman to reinvigorate your campaign. Seems like a perfect fit.

  • BearEyes

    Dees, says it’s time for the U.S. to reevaluate military policies
    really?
    that reevaluation has already been done.
    Please do try to keep up with past events that have already happened.

    • Bluto

      It’s like Benghazi hearings, they’ll keep doing it until they hear what they want. If Hilliary is elected I expect more hearings until she admits that she personally killed Ambassador Stephens with a candlestick in the library just to shut them the fuck up.

  • zhera

    What exactly is the reasoning behind not allowing women in certain combat roles? Is it physical, like, women aren’t as fast and strong as men? Or is it some weird idea about protecting the delicate minds of the weaker sex?

    • Bob M

      If the women folk run off to a battle and get killed, who’s going to do the cookin’ and cleanin’

      • clay

        Or, as the men discovered in Eritrea’s civil war against Ethiopia, some of the men are better at the camp chores while the women served as snipers.

    • Gustav2

      It is because manly men will protect the little woman first, instead of looking first to the mission.

    • clay

      men captured on the battlefield wouldn’t be at risk of rape.

      /s

      • Bluto

        cuz that’s the privilege of drunken white frat boys.

    • Stev84

      They are afraid of cooties and periods

      • zhera

        Premenstrual women would make terrifying soldiers.

    • Friday

      It’s actually a whole cluster of fears, prejudices, and claims like ‘averages’ are absolutes, ie, “All men are stronger than all women,” etc. Also some archaic ideas of how wars themselves are fought these days.

  • clay

    So, he’s now a non-politician with a non-campaign manager. He’s likely to end up with as much of the vote as Scott Lively did in the Massachusetts gubernatorial race.

  • Blake Jordan

    And watch the quality of the armed forces drop significantly with the lose of a whole lot of talent!!!

    • People4Humanity

      e.g.: The gay military personnel who translated Arabic and Farsi.

      • clay

        Navy corpsmen doing emergency medicine with the Marines (yeah, a stereotype, I know). Women in ALL forward placements, not just infantry and special forces.

  • goofy_joe

    When something is working, you don’t need to roll it back. This clearly shows animus towards women and gays. With this kind of rhetoric, how do they expect to get enough support to take the White House?

    • Friday

      They seem to have given up on ‘pretending there’s no animus’ a long time ago, though the corporate media does its part to whitewash that fact.

    • We just need to work to make sure that supporting anti-gay animus is politically costly. They don’t have majority support and if that translates into election results the GOP will eventually be less willing to let the religious right dictate their party platform and positions.

  • j.martindale

    Not only is this jackass asking for something that is morally indefensible, he is asking for something that is impossible. You now have thousands of military personnel who have “come out” to their co-workers. Tell me, please, how you can “un-tell” those people that you are gay? Or are you now supposed to pretend you are straight? Or do they simply plan to fire everyone that is out? Or does this new policy only apply to new recruits? IDIOTS!

    • clay

      They fire them, with the added benefit of “other than honorable” discharges, so no VA benefits (and striking those benefits from anyone who got them in the last seven years). See, they helped fix the VA system!

      • Friday

        Then of course lower security standards again, to replace all the critical people with higher clearances they claimed were “security risks cause we might blackmail them for being gay under DADT.”

  • Dramphooey

    “Reinvigorated” certainly doesn’t seem like the right choice of words with these musty, old beliefs.

    • clay

      “reinterred”?

    • Fyva Prold

      “exhumed”, “reanimated”

  • Brian Moore

    Could they bring it back? Could they actually bring back something so unAmerican? Will all those gay men and women be told, by their own country, that they aren’t good enough to defend it unless they keep their mouths shut and live a lie?

    This is one of the reasons I’ll always hate Republicans.

  • Alan43

    Interesting that even a loon like Dees isn’t talking about banning LGBT service members, which was the case prior to 1993

  • Justin

    Not going to happen.

  • chris james

    Fortunately for the rest of us Ben Carson’s political ambitions are DOA. Once he realizes that he can go join some fundamentalist church and rant about the gays who caused his failure. Perhaps he can take Mr. Dees with him and they can troll the Christian world for money. Pathetic excuses for human beings.

  • TheSpinMonkey

    That ship has sailed……why not focus on real issues.

    • Craig Howell

      And that ship was the Titanic.

    • Friday

      Cause they have nothing on the ‘real issues’ but doubling down on their proven policy failures and their looting of the real economy for the ultra-rich.

  • Beagle

    When I hear “Dees,” I think “Rick.” This guy is more suited to the Cast of Idiots.

  • Galvestonian

    I do not think that the military will cooperate – this would be denying freedom & equality to quite a lot of soldiers, sailors, airmen & marines.

  • Chris Larosa

    The DADT repeal has had ZERO negative impact as of 365 days in:
    http://www.palmcenter.org/files/One%20Year%20Out_0.pdf

    I’ve been at the Pentagon since 7 months post-repeal and I am in the HR community here. The trend is the same – 4 years later nothing but positive impact, overwhelming acceptance by the troops, and senior leadership is totally on board.

    Doctor of Delusion is 100% off-base and a reversal would NEVER happen. The reason why the repeal occurred in the first place was due to the overwhelming acceptance of military personnel in the first place after an extensive 1-year study down to the unit levels. The idea of gays in the military is 100% bigotry/religion-based and its reinstatement is proven to have 0% basis in reality.

    Stabby is purely pandering to the “Hateful 8-balls” in order to get votes.

    • Friday

      Not to mention 78 percent popular support for DADT repeal even at the time it was done. These Christofascists obviously hate ‘the will of the people.’ They just want the country run according to the playing-records-backwards-hoping-to-ban-rock-music crowd. 🙂

    • Paige Turner

      I don’t ever remember a Republican campaign where there is so little daylight between the candidates as far as policy is concerned rather its just degrees of bigotry and hatred.

      If youre to vote republican its more just about choosing which one is the most suitable from a retrograde perspective when it comes to civil rights.

  • EqualityForAll

    You would think that anyone who uses the prefix “Dr” before his name would have more brains than this. No matter what the policy is, they’ll never get rid of the gays in the military. Soldiers were frolicking with each other back when I served during the Vietnam War era, as I’m sure they have been since the Revolutionary War. The question isn’t should we serve; it’s whether we serve in or out of the closet.

    • Paige Turner

      They sure as hell don’t like us being visible or wanting pesky things like equality. In their eyes we didn’t even exist until about 10 years ago so its seen as a fad. What they don’t think about is that whilst we may not have been as visible we were very busy working in areas where we could influence its just we conquered those.

  • LarryChemEngr

    This is beyond pathetic. Why do a bunch of bigots get to choose who can have military careers based on their outdated Biblical views of sex roles and (sic) abominable lifestyles. And then pretend its to preserve military readiness, just like they did when banned African Americans, when all the data says baloney. Its time people just cut through their asinine rhetoric, and said, “Fuck You, bigot”.

    • James

      Because heaven forfend a straight man might have to shower naked in view of someone who might find him attractive.

    • Yup and in truth the same is true for all of the sub debates. There position is not about doing what is best for the military, the boy-scouts, the family, marriage, ect…rather it is about protecting the anti-gay agenda. They like to pretend that they are just acting out of the best interests for these various institutions but it is not the truth.

  • Mihangel apYrs

    I have little doubt Mr Dees would clamour for the filthy queers in the armed forces if ever a national emergency re-opened the draft.

    In the UK, during the Faulkland War, servicemen scheduled for dismissal were kept on,only to be thrown out afterwards. The hypocrisy was breathtaking

    • Stev84

      Same happened during the Gulf War in the US. And after 9/11 DADT discharges went down every single year.

  • ScottJ

    How did he acquire the nickname of “Dr. Stabby?” Who coined the phrase?

    • LonelyLiberal

      Apparently, Dr. Stabby said in public that he almost went psycho and cut a bitch or something. The nickname just naturally flowed from that.

      I wasn’t paying too much attention to the story, but that’s the gist of it.

  • musiclover703

    For a group that seems indifferent to the environment, Republicans certainly are fond of recycling. Of course, their recycling efforts are limited to tired old prejudices and failed philosophies that civilized society moved on from decades ago.

  • Robert Conner

    I have a modest proposal for Major General Robert “Asshole” Dees. When we reinstate DADT, lets reinstate other unconstitutional laws like segregation and laws against miscegenation. That way when Uncle Ben Carson gets to the White House, he’ll be limited to the butler’s quarters and the kitchen and the marriage of Clarence Thomas and his wife Virginia will be reduced to shacking up and fucking. Sounds fair to me.

    • Goodboy

      In the right company I’ll bet Dees sees no issue with that either.

  • Thorn Spike

    Why don’t you do something about all the straight men raping women in the armed forces, instead of being afraid of the gays and lesbians just trying to serve their country?

    …crickets…

  • Robincho

    Dees Nutz. It was a thing. Now it’s two things…

  • JCF
  • If you attempt to kick of a reinvigorated campaign turning to someone who pushes a non-started like re-instating DADT is about the dumbest thing you could do. The repeal of DADT was a great success with none of the supposed negative consequences and yet these people can’t help but push their blind devotion to the anti-gay agenda.

  • Jim

    Ooooooh. So Carson’s got the very model of a modern major general running his campaign. Watch out, folks! We know about modern major generals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSGWoXDFM64

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