Dr. Stabby: I Miss The Good Old Days Of DADT

Speaking yesterday at an Iowa town hall event, Ben Carson pined for the good old days of DADT and denounced soldiers who “have to go around flouting their sexuality.” Carson’s statement was triggered by a question about military service for transgender Americans.

“You know, we have too many important things to do,” Carson said at a “Veterans and Military Town Hall” hosted by the Concerned Veterans for America. “When our men and women are out there fighting the enemy, the last thing that we need to be doing is saying what would it be like if we introduced several transgender people into this platoon.” “You know, give me a break. Deal with the transgender thing somewhere else,” Carson said before saying he prefers the old “don’t ask, don’t tell” military philosophy that ended in 2011. “I mean, why do you have to go around flouting your sexuality? It’s not necessary, you don’t need to talk about that, we need to talk about how we eliminate the enemy,” Carson said at the town hall.

Carson’s polling numbers have nosedived in several recent surveys. (Tipped by JMG reader DM)

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    Too bad he’s too stupid to get that many of the people he is pandering to miss the good old days of slavery and Jim Crow laws and segregation.

    • Lakeview Bob

      Bingo

    • Steverino

      Just goes to show how the tribalism of right-wing ideology trumps racism. Clarence Thomas is another example of this.

      • Wynter Marie Starr

        Men like Carson and Thomas are wearing blinders and choose not to see the underbelly and the racism woven throughout the party. I think it’s also about power and money.

      • Kissmagrits

        Dr. Stabby and Stepin Fetchit – – -What a pair!

    • MarkOH

      “When our men and women are out there fighting the enemy, the last thing
      that we need to be doing is saying what would it be like if we
      introduced several DARKIES into this platoon.”

      There, fixed it for you Dr. Idiot.

      • Wynter Marie Starr

        When I run into bigots, I ask them a very simple question. If they were trapped in a collapsed building, would they not take the hand of the person rescuing them if that hand belonged to (fill in the blank). Or, would they stop to check that a person they were rescuing was the “right” color, orientation, etc.

        • MarkOH

          Great question

  • Marc

    “I mean, why do you have to go around flouting your sexuality?” Assuming of course that you’re non-straight. Otherwise it’s absolutely no biggie and is actually encouraged.

    Asshat.

    • Flaunting

      • Marc

        I know, but that’s how the article quoted Carson.

        • Yes – I should have made it a direct comment. Sorry!

          • Marc

            no worries 🙂 I was trying to find a recording of the event to see if he actually did say “flaunting” but the reporter transcribed it wrong… after “hummus” who knows…

          • dustin fibers

            I once worked with a woman who called and ordered a sandwich for lunch and asked for them to add an order of humus…lol

          • popebuck1

            We’re all out of humus, but would peat moss be okay?

          • Steverino

            Carson is out of humus, but he has plenty of bullshit to offer, instead.

          • Homo Erectus

            I think you mis-spelled “Hubris”.

          • amati1684

            My partner and I were in a deli in Asheville, NC whose menu offered “ground homos.” We got outta there real fast….

          • Homo Erectus

            It’s a good thing she didn’t want anise 😉

          • Kissmagrits

            In the Eisenhower fifties, my sister almost lost it when her new Home Ec teacher taught the class how to make “anus” cookies.

          • Mmmmmmm. Them’s good eatin’.

          • Robincho

            It’s what’s for dinner!…

      • Michael Rush

        I think they meant Flautas .

    • Joe in PA

      The good old days…like Tailhook? Sure glad no one was “flouting” their sexuality there. Sigh.

      • Marc

        I need to go hug the cats. That was depressing to revisit on wiki =

        • Joe in PA

          I know, I googled it for a refresher as well, I was going to add some words to my post from a story at Newsweek…nope…no one needs so read that right now.

          Give those kitties a squeeze from me. 😉

          • Marc

            Mao didn’t seem appreciative, but Crawley did =)

  • another_steve

    In the days ahead, the theofascists will use transgendered people as a wedge to tilt Republican-leaning Independents to the Republican side come next November. The strategy works well for them. As in “Houston Texas” well.

    Watch for it.

    • hiker_sf

      Any Republican-leaning Independent whose vote relies solely on this issue isn’t worth pandering to.

      Or are you suggesting that we should throw trans people under the bus?

      • another_steve

        In my…I dunno…five years or so of commenting on JMG, I’ve never encountered anyone as tone-deaf to other comments on the blog as you, hiker.

        • hiker_sf

          Nice. Make it about me to avoid answering the question.

          In your five year history, did you support removing trans from ENDA too?

          • popebuck1

            All he said was to watch for them to use that strategy – because it’s nakedly obvious that’s what they’re going to do. It’s a measure of the progress we’ve made that they can no longer blithely dismiss all LGBTs as child molesters. But trans folk are still exotic and “other” enough that the right wingers can get away with their ridiculous public restroom scenarios. It worked in Houston and it could work again if we’re not prepared for it. How did you get “let’s throw the trans folk under the bus” from “here’s their strategy, watch for it”?

          • hiker_sf

            Because ‘throw the trans under the bus’ is exactly what many gay men have always wanted. See the history of ENDA.

            And as others have stated, Carson is falling in the polls and we shouldn’t be quick to react to everything that nutcases say. Oh, and the ‘be afraid’ theme a_s’s post are ridiculous.

          • Octavio

            I’m proud to not be one of those “many gay men.” In fact, one of my major fantasies is to enjoy some quality time romping about naked with Buck Angel. He’s dreamy . . . shaved head and all. 🙂

          • another_steve

            I believe that trans people are as deserving of equality under the law as L’s, G’s and B’s are, but that the transgender and LGB struggles are not identical. Related in some ways (gender non-conformity, for instance), but not identical. One can debate whether they’re even “closely related.” So there is, in my mind, a real question of whether the two related struggles should be linked and presented as one struggle.

            African Americans are also as deserving of equality under the law as LGBT people are, but there’s a separate African American civil rights movement, yes? Different struggles demand different strategies. Different expertise. Different timetables.

            In the queer blogosphere, this as well as other “non-PC issues” are taboo.

            I’m sure I’ll be called a “troll” here for merely broaching it.

          • hiker_sf

            While I disagree, I’ll refrain from calling you a troll for this post. One important distinction is that related or not, it seems that everyone who is anti-gay is also anti-trans, but not necessarily anti-Black, etc.

            Some among us may see distinctions, but in the eyes of those who hate, we are all the same.

            But the overriding issue for me is moral. It is hurtful and wrong to separate communities that have been linked in political and life struggles for decades for expediency, convenience or because some are embarrassed.

          • another_steve

            “It is hurtful and wrong to separate communities that have been linked in political and life struggles for decades for expediency, convenience or because some are embarrassed.”

            I agree with that. Those reasons — expediency, convenience and embarrassment — are not the motivations of good-willed folks who question the status quo on this issue.

            The issue, for me at least, is whether the status quo — the combining of the LGB’s with the T’s — best serves the interests of all involved.

            Non-transgendered people — gay and straight alike — don’t know the struggles and challenges faced by the transgendered. The former can’t tell the latter’s stories to politicians, family members, religious leaders. The LGB and the T stories are not the same. Related, but not the same.

            It’s quite possible that the “mushing together” — in the public consciousness — of the different stories and struggles serves no one’s interests, but instead impedes everyone’s progress.

          • hiker_sf

            I don’t think there is much evidence that “mushing together” has had a negative impact. ENDA is a good example – trans were dumped and it still didn’t pass. The Houston thing may be the exception, but I expect that to change very soon.

      • David L. Caster

        Were I to try and put a finer point on it, mainstream America has generally accepted “ordinary” homosexuality but has not quite grasped the whole notion of sexual minorities. The transgendered, inter-sexed, the androgynous, in fact anybody or thing that challenges the whole black-and-white of male and female and gender roles still has not generally received the same kind of support that the wider gay community has now. That makes those individuals that fall further out around the edges of society easier targets for demagogues and social conservatives than the much more demystified and now recognized same-sex couple.

        • hiker_sf

          Fair enough. But haven’t things changed a bit in the post-Caitlyn era? I realize that the South is always going to struggle with this, but how about among voters with electoral college power?

          • David L. Caster

            Caitlyn has done little to change the minds of Ma and Pa Kettle out in the backwoods.

            Let’s take a mostly progressive (blue) state like California, with 55 electoral votes. Most of the population lives along the coast and is liberal. The central valley of the state which is much less populous, is considerably more conservative but there is a lot of territory there. If you travel between these areas and speak with people, you will easily see the contrasts between how the inhabitants in these very different regions see sexual minorities. In general, the less urbanized areas of the country are more conservative and will not understand gender fluidity and variations from the “normal” gender roles as manifest by individuals. It’s still possible to use something “out of the ordinary” as a wedge with voters and the GOP candidates will use FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) to whip up their base with threats of “cross-dressing perverts in the wrong restroom” threatening their babies, just as they did recently in Houston.

    • Homo Erectus
  • bkmn

    Yet another GOP’er who never got anywhere near the military when they could have served.

    • Soren456

      But he had dinner with Gen. Westmoreland, who sent him a full scholarship to West Point.

      Then he forgot to mail in the application.

      So, he got sort of close.

      • Chucktech

        Maybe West Point didn’t have a robust enough Egyptology Department for him.

        • Soren456

          And no Popeyes franchise nearby.

  • 3-Star

    Let’s see his reaction when a Klansman reflects on what he misses from the good old days.

    • Zoey

      Ah so Tony Perkins has already commented?

  • Reasonoverhate

    This mindset is why I fucking hate Republicans. My husband is an officer in the military and we lived under DADT. Our lives and relationship suffered because of it. Since repeal we have been accepted by both commands we’ve been a part of with open arms. No one has a problem with repeal except pandering, bigoted politicians!

    • Gest2016

      They never can connect good intentions with bad outcomes. People like Ben Carson truly believe they are good people, but we need to point out to them again and again until they finally get it — they are not.

      • amati1684

        Read Scott Peck’s book “People of the Lie” and you’ll see just how evil all those self righteous folks really are.

        • popebuck1

          I’m still scarred by the story about that family whose older son killed himself with a shotgun – and then for Christmas, they gave their younger son that SAME shotgun. I mean… I just cannot even.

        • secretlab

          Absolutely great book for our times. Thanks for mentioning it.

    • FAEN

      The only people that have a problem with DADT are people who have issues they don’t want to deal with IMHO.

      My husband and I had our own version of DADT-we’re a binational couple and before the repeal of DOMA we lived in mortal fear. Our mental health really took a hit. Years later were still recovering.

      It’s ironic that Dr Stabby wants us all back in the closet. I’m SURE if he had to sit in the back of the bus he would have a problem with it.

  • LovesIrony

    “I mean, why do you have to go around flouting your stupidity?

    • zhera

      “I mean, why do you have to go around flouting your religion?”

      • Homo Erectus

        Same thing.

  • LovesIrony

    Let’s weaken our defense by throwing out qualified people because they have a picture of their spouse by their bed

  • Robert Conner

    So basically this obscenely ignorant tool doesn’t know the difference between “flout” and “flaunt”? MLK is probably somewhere right now thinking, “Fuck me! Tell me I didn’t get assassinated for this dumbass bitch homie!”

  • HomerTh

    Does he also miss the days when African-Americans served in segregated armed forces units?

    • Clive Johnson

      “Why should these people be flaunting their race?”

  • Joe knows who I am.

    I miss the good ole days when Negroes were in the fields. -_- /s

    • WNY

      /s ?

      • Joe knows who I am.

        Snark. wanted to make it clear that I wasn’t being racist.

      • Joe knows who I am.

        /s Snark. I wanted to make clear that I wasn’t being racist.

        • WNY

          That’s what I figured but I wanted to give you a chance to clarify. 😉

        • OCW

          I think someone would have to be very simple and literal minded to not get the snark.

  • delk

    And when exactly did he serve?

    I might listen to you about brain surgery, but what the goddamn fuck do you know about the military?

    • cheakamus

      I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be my go-to guy for brain surgery either.

      • jomicur

        I’ve read in several places that he’s had over 90% more malpractice suits than most doctors. If that’s accurate, he’s not the “brilliant brain surgeon” we keep being told about but a genuine menace. The fact that he uses a scalpel rather than an AK-47 only means he perpetrates his damage more slowly.

        • Steverino

          I haven’t verified this, so am uncertain if it is an urban legend or what, but I heard that the twins conjoined at the head that he surgically separated both ended up going from happy little girls into basically a permanent vegetative state.

          Perhaps he is running for president and writing his silly books for no other reason than to pay his hellacious malpractice insurance premiums.

          • David L. Caster

            Or he has always been a hack and got lucky just enough to earn some street cred within the medical community. Hard to say, but the guy strikes me as well medicated all the time. I don’t think I would want him for a doctor. I want my caregivers to be alert and obviously sharp all the time they are doing their thing.

          • thatotherjean

            Nope, he’s retired from neurosurgery in 2012 and is now teaching other surgeons and writing. One reason he has been sued for malpractice at least eight times, according to the articles I read, is because he took on cases nobody else would touch–like those co-joined twins. And when you make even small errors messing around with people’s brains, you can leave some pretty devastating damage behind.

            Still, eight cases over a career of 35 years of leading-edge surgery isn’t all that awful. It’s only when he ventures out of the realm of surgery that he reveals how little he knows about anything else.

          • Cattleya1

            But still, there was a reason why no one else would touch those cases. We can do a lot of things in medicine but sometimes it takes courage to say ‘we shouldn’t do this’. I have been on the medicine cleanup crew for a lot of botched surgeries which should never have been done. There is a lot of hubris in interventional medicine and surgery – it causes a lot of misery.

          • thatotherjean

            I absolutely agree with you. He was, in general, an excellent surgeon, but he probably took on cases that he shouldn’t have. The man has a bit of an ego problem. Have you seen the photos of his decor?

          • Cattleya1

            That wall is a kind of ego shrine. I particularly like the painting of him with Klingon-Jesus. I was lucky – my patients tended to give me books.

          • Bad Tom

            I read a Boston Globe Spotlight article within the very recent past hat said precisely that. The mother of the twins regrets she ever went to Dr. Carson.

      • charemor

        I wouldn’t let Carson trim my toenails.

    • Stev84

      Then nothing would ever change. Almost all veteran’s organizations are hyper-conservative. Most people at this event agreed with Carson too.

  • 2amor

    How many years did Dr. Stabby serve? Thought so…

    • bambinoitaliano

      Does blocking a knife attack with a belt buckle at a fast food joint count?

      • Reality.Bites

        Yes but the answer is still “none.”

      • LovesIrony

        Does almost hitting his mother in the head with a hammer?

  • Secure

    Hey Republicans – give us another Eisenhower, not these fucking jokers you keep offering up. Creeper Carson will never be president.

  • Taylor

    I’m sure that anyone who is as divorced from reality as he is, would miss the days when you could ignore it, by not asking about it.

    I would imagine that there are still a few people in this country that miss the days, when he would be seen, but not heard.

    FUCK YOU, Ben Carson!

  • shellback

    Poverbs Eleventy-leven
    When a stupid stabby man tells you what’s right and wrong, tell him to go fuck himself … sideways. For it is good for stupid people so to do.

    • jomicur

      My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me.

      — Hosea 4:6

      Of course that verse doesn’t apply to Christians. Just like every other bit of their Bible they find inconvenient.

  • TheSpinMonkey

    Sorry, if you have never served (ROTC does not count) you do not have the right to judge those who do!

    • zhera

      But he was offered a scholarship at West Point!!!1!

      • Blake Jordan

        Only in one of his narcoleptic day dreams…

      • bambinoitaliano

        Potato peeling.

  • tcinsf

    Lotta folks miss the days when guys like Dr. Stabby picked cotton and sat at the back of the bus. Don’t make it right.

  • Who cares what he thinks? The Republican Party clearly does not. He is way down to 14% in the latest CNN Poll and dropping faster than a red hot baked potato without oven mitts (hey its Sunday morning don’t expect prose). No one takes him seriously — except for some crackpots who will line up to pay his $100,000 a speech fee – people who home school who think Flintstone reruns belong on the History Channel because a dinosaur is the family pet. I don’t even think HE takes his candidacy seriously.

    • Todd20036

      I’d rather have the baked potato. A little butter and garlic powder

      • Soren456

        Sour cream for me.

        (And butter.)

        • Octavio

          Sour cream, butter, and a good amount of shredded cheddar.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            A nice big sweet pickle on the side too.

          • 2karmanot

            Me too—that big ole’ pickle yummmm

          • Octavio

            !!

          • vorpal

            My thought, too: steaming hot potatoes and “pickles” should never meet!

          • bambinoitaliano

            And bacon bits 🙂

          • Homo Erectus

            Y’all might want some stents for your arteries as well.

          • Richard, another Canuck

            Bacon bits too please.

        • vorpal

          Butter, sour cream, chives or finely sliced green onions, loads of salt and pepper, and then bacon, if you’ve got it.

      • Reality.Bites

        CARBS!

      • Piercedchrlz

        Can I have some horseradish in mine, please?

  • bambinoitaliano

    KKK: I miss the good old days where the blacks don’t get to be president and running for office.

    • Octavio

      Yup. I, too, get all misty eyed for the good ol’ days for those weekends when we’d git the family together and attend a lynching followed by good pig barbecue. “Take me back to ol’ Virginny . . . .”Sigh. /s

      • sherman

        After church, of course.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Not to mention lighting up crosses on the lawn to keep the nights warm.

      • Steve Teeter

        Bring the kids!

    • Homo Erectus

      I miss Stainilgo Soap. I wonder if it’s still available?

    • cleos_mom

      And those signs at gas stations for 3 restrooms: “Men”, “Women” and “Colored” [sigh]. Yeppers, them were the More Innocent Times.

    • Todd20036

      I miss the good old days where blacks couldn’t vote, weren’t allowed to read, and weren’t even counted as full humans in the census.

  • dcurlee

    What an idiot. I’m so thankful for all of those that serve Last I heard I don’t recall anyone running around flaunting anything. Other than the right to be who they are and not having to hide it.

  • Oh look…another irrelevant Republican bigot says something stupid.

  • zhera

    That horse is dead, Dr. Stabby. Dead as in pining for the fjords. Now go get some more poverbs for your super-duper classy shrine to yourself.

    • Reality.Bites

      Don’t you mean pining for the Chjevrolets?

      • zhera

        Sorry, I’m not privvy to that joke. :/

        • Reality.Bites

          See the Viral Video thread where Joe explains why he substituted Norwegian for Dutch.

      • Homo Erectus

        We still have them. She probably meant Sjudebakers.

  • Blake Jordan

    And the majority of the people you are pandering to miss the good old days of racial segregation!!!

  • Blake Jordan

    If you can get all the heterosexuals to STFU about their personal lives, then you can try to impose that standard on non-heterosexuals!!!!

    • Octavio

      Many years ago I was a project manager for a sfotware company in Ewetaw. I had the occasion to lunch with a shiny young mormon return missionary who just been hired as a programmer. He was very bright, pleasant and quickly going bald at 27 years-old (a common trait among his type). Somehow the discussion careened to the topic of “gays.” Chris (his real name) complained, “I really don’t care about homosexuals. But what I don’t like is that they’re always talking about being gay!”

      I responded, “You mean, like mormons always talking about mormonism?”

      We spent the rest of lunch in silence. 🙂

  • Michael Rush

    I miss the time when no one knew what an idiot Ben Carson is , but those days are over .

  • 2karmanot

    Dr. Stabby presents as loser crack-pot

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Wishing all you other “floutists” a very happy Sunday!

    • Marc

      No love for the flutists?

      • Octavio

        How’s about we just wish a happy Sunday to all those lucky enough to get a dick in their mouth today. :-)*

        * On second thought, maybe congrats would be more appropriate.

        • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

          skin flutists?

          • Octavio

            Yes!

  • BudClark

    And *I* miss the good old days when Negroes knew their place.(/s)

    My great grandfather shot and killed a black man for looking my great grandmother in the eye. It was called “eye-rape.” He was acquitted by an all white jury.

    The last lynching in Mulberry, FL, where I grew up, was in the 1930s.

    The murders of gay men continue to this day. That’s about the only time Polk County, FL makes the national news.

    And, of course, HETEROSEXUALS *never* flaunt THEIR sexuality.

    • zhera

      Eye-rape? Wow!

      • cleos_mom

        The Twinkie Defense’s cranky great-uncle.

    • CPT_Doom

      From the “Meet Ben” section of his campaign page: “…Yale University where he met Candy, the young lady who would become his wife.”

    • When in high school in the middle ’70s in southern Indiana, there were still whispers of crosses being burnt on lawns in the “dark” part of town.

      This is a scab we need to rip off and deal with the infection. It’s festered long enough, and putting a new band-aide just wont work any longer.

    • Todd20036

      Gods, I’m sorry for your history. To think you have to be THAT disgusted with someone who is in your direct family tree.
      At least you were able to distance yourself from that racist poison to the point that you were able to grow up

  • Sam_Handwich

    to flout is to ignore or disregard

    • sherman

      What makes you qualified to question a brain surgeon?

      • Bad Tom

        He’s smarter than the average sandwich.

        • sherman

          Quite a compliment.

    • Piercedchrlz

      Which ironically is what I do in regard to this jackwipe.

  • Villager

    Flouting? I think the word he means to use is flaunting.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    OH yeah the good ole’ days…

    Iowa, sometime in the 1800’s :

    To the Editor of the Dubuque Herald–Having recently been
    a resident of the city, I would like to inquire whether it
    is customary for the land-lords in first-class hotels to
    seat the colored with the white folks at the table. Having
    been an eyewitness to the proceeding, we, for one, protest
    against the custom of “mixing boarders” in this promiscuous
    manner. We respect a negro in his place, and cannot but
    believe that such a course will be injurious to the reputation
    of the House and offensive to the traveling public. (32)

    • vorpal

      Well, that wasn’t racist at all, since they’re considerate enough to “respect a negro in his place.”

      Kind of like modern Christians aren’t homophobic because they wouldn’t have gay people if we would just stop inconveniencing them by “flaunting our lifestyle” and existing openly.

      • Octavio

        A few months ago at a political gathering a teabangelical actually told me that I needed to respect my betters. He said it loud and in front of a crowd. I laughed so hard my sides hurt. The assembled crowd enjoyed laughing at him, too.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        We are expected to bow and courtesy to them, since they don’t throw us off buildings. That’s some overwhelming love right there.

        • Bad Tom

          “…since they don’t throw us off buildings.”

          Yet.

      • Homo Erectus

        And some of their best friends are gay!

    • “Promiscuous”? I could think of several other words that would fit in with a racist mindset, but promiscuous? Thats kinda a stretch, yeah?

      • WildwoodGuy

        Not when you’re talking about the scary “BLACK MAN” stereotype. You KNOW all that type ever wanted was your white womens.

        P.S. Hi biki!

        • Howdy! How ya been?

          • WildwoodGuy

            Sent you an e-mail.

          • and answered!

  • BearEyes

    right, because str8s never broadcast their sexuality with pictures of their significant others, kids, and gasp – even talking about same.

    • Homo Erectus

      Especially in a group of male 20 year-olds in close quarters.

  • Disqusdmnj

    During the course of a regular day in the military, just how much is spent talking about sexuality?

    I think his issue, like many others, is that kids of the next generation don’t see this as an issue… it’d be like my dad talking about celebrating Hanukkah instead of Xmas when he served in the late 60’s. He didn’t get on the baseball team as a kid because he was Jewish, but no one really gave a shit 20 years later.

    • Stev84

      You missed the issue here. The thing is that people indirectly mention their sexuality all the time when they talk about their families or significant others. It comes up all the time in regular conversations. Not to mention events that involve bringing along said families.

      • Disqusdmnj

        Oh, don’t get me wrong… I totally get that. I just think that to an extent, those in the military of a younger generation see that type of discussion as innocuous and similar whether straight, gay, or otherwise. Obviously far from 100%, but I’d say much more than Carson et al think that would be detrimental to the military’s purpose. Just a guess though – I’m straight, atheist, 47, and never served. I’m wrong about many things. 😉

        • 2amor

          However, I think you are spot on here…

          • Disqusdmnj

            Thanks!

            Also, love the avatar. 😊

    • Steve Teeter

      That’s what’s going on here. Carson and Huckabee and those sorts fret about a morale problem with the troops, due to having to serve with out gay servicepeople. Bullshit. There is no morale problem about gays in any of the services. Studies have shown that, studies done by the military themselves. Besides, morale is not an issue about generals and colonels, but about privates and sergeants, the lower levels. And these are young people who are used to gay people. So where’s the problem?

      • Disqusdmnj

        The Rebiblicans who vote are the problem.

  • This guy is so silly, does he not realise that everyone is laughing at him?

    • sherman

      If only Ben had some garlic around his neck this vampire attack would never have happened.

      • Todd20036

        I’d take that “vampire” over Ben any day

    • Max_1

      Ben thinks: “If they’re laughing, they’re looking.”

  • Piercedchrlz

    Well, Dr. Stabby Pantsonfire, I’m tired of you “flouting” the breathtaking ignorance of your own stupidity. Apparently, neurosurgery doesn’t require much intelligence or common sense, what an embarrassment to neurosurgeons or humanity really.

  • sherman
    • Homo Erectus

      Which is why you’ll never see the inside of the white house unless you take a tour.

    • Max_1

      He essentially endorsed Hillary with this one…

  • oikos
    • Homo Erectus

      ..

    • charemor

      Sad, I grew up with that in south Georgia during the 40s and 50s.

  • Flaunting v. flouting is a common grammatical mistake, but almost always people say “flaunting” when they mean “flouting.” This is the first time I recall seeing someone incorrectly using “flouting.”

    • Steverino

      Beat me to it. Obviously he meant “flaunting,” but ironically, what he is doing is flouting LGBT sexualities.

      Even Anita Bryant wasn’t that stupid, and that is saying something.

    • delk

      Now I want some flautas! 🙂

  • sherman

    Hey Ben, here’s one or your fellow Republicons who probably also pines for the good ole days:

    https://twitter.com/Eclectablog/status/673140415646797825

    • JCF

      I’d say “un-fecking-believable”.

      But this is a Rethuglican we’re talking about. So it’s TOTALLY believable.

  • agcons

    Sure, Ben. They go around flouting their sexuality, and then just to shake things up they go around again flaunting the law.

  • JT

    go around flouting their sexuality

    Has this dimwit every been in a group of military men?

    • Stev84

      >Has this dimwit every been in a group of military men?

      FIFY

  • DaveMiller135

    Flaunt is the word you want. Flouting is closer to what DADT asked soldiers to do with regard to their sexuality.

    A black guy with nostalgia for discrimination; the Republicanism is strong with this one. [“I got mine, now fuck the rest of yas.”]

  • Steven B

    Flouting. Clearly in context he meant flaunting. There actually is such a word but I had to look it up. Here we go again with the whole hummas/Hamas thing.
    We can replace the old term Bush-ism with Carson-ism

    • Sam_Handwich

      i admit, the only reason i know the word ‘flout’ is because of this poem…

      He drew a circle that shut me out-
      Heretic , rebel, a thing to flout.
      But love and I had the wit to win:
      We drew a circle and took him in !

      ” Outwitted”
      ― Edwin Markham

    • JT

      So, he’s really saying it’s a bad thing for gay people to go against their sexuality.

      Ben Carson: even when he speaks his mind he doesn’t know what he’s saying.

  • FAEN

    Stop flouting your skin color Dr Stabby!

  • Ahh so Dr. McStabby likes it on the down low.

  • anne marie in philly

    I DON’T!

    “if you got it, flaunt it, step right up and strut your stuff”

  • Fiona_Alwyn

    I wonder if he also misses the days of separate water fountains? I bet not.

    • EdmondWherever

      Why do we need to talk about sharing water fountains? We need to focus on being thirsty!

  • “have to go around flouting their sexuality.” – (‘flaunt’, not ‘flout’, you moron) Like how heterosexuality is flaunted everywhere all the time, you mean? The heterosexual lifestyle is constantly being shoved down my throat. There’s no escaping it! ; )

  • BobSF_94117

    What’s really remarkable, in terms of how much the country has changed, is that the GOP has uttered hardly a peep about the military opening up ALL positions to women including all combat positions.

  • OCW

    “flouting” — classic!

  • Merv99

    “Just the other day I was discussing with my wife, ‘Why do people need to talk about their sexuality?'”

  • red-diaper-baby 1942

    The guy can’t even speak properly — “hummus” and “flouting”. Although I suppose it’s within the bounds of possibility that a reporter misheard “flaunting” as “flouting”.
    Actually, forcing people to stay in the closet is precisely forcing them to “flout” their sexuality!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    That’s right Dr. Stabby, you ‘bravely’ denigrate those same “deviants” who fight for you while you stay safely in your own home. By the way Dr. Dumbfuck, when soldiers talk about scoring with a hooker or talking about their girlfriend, are they not flaunting their sexuality? Oh, what’s that? It’s “different”…..yeah, that’s what I thought. Gutless coward…..period.

  • Mihangel apYrs

    good grief – this is an educated man? “Flaunting” not flouting” you demi-educated moron!

  • What a moron.

    According to a younger relative, everyone knew who was gay anyway and the only change is that now they don’t all have to pretend they don’t know what was perfectly obvious (or widely whispered) before. They didn’t care before nor do they now. Have there been any problems with the DADT because I haven’t heard of any, even from people I know in the service?

  • TheManicMechanic

    “I miss the good ol’ days of slavery.”

    • Homo Erectus

      “You know, give me a break. Deal with the transgender thing somewhere
      else,” Carson said before saying he prefers watermelon time in the south.

  • EdA

    And Ben Carson’s military experience, as a cadet colonel in high school junior ROTC, is approximately comparable to Donald Trump’s. Making him vaguely more knowledgeable about the military than someone who watched McHale’s Navy, Saving Private Ryan, or A Few Good Men.

  • JohnInCA

    My mother has a story from when my father was serving on submarines. Apparently she got word that they would be coming into port a few hours away, and decided to surprise him. So she got a sitter for the kids and drove down to be at port when the submarine arrived. My father comes off the ship, is surprised to see his wife, and they have a grand ol’ day.

    A few weeks later, when my father is pulling into the port where he was stationed, my mother was again waiting for him. Unfortunately for my mother, some of my dad’s shipmates got out first and recognized her. They grabbed her and rushed her onto the ship saying “you can’t be here! Randy’s wife is going to be here! She can’t see him with his girlfriend!”

    See, the shipmates had seen my mother at the previous port where they *weren’t* stationed and assumed that made her his girlfriend, so when they saw her at their home port they thought the girlfriend had come to visit.

    A huge comical misunderstanding. That wouldn’t have been possible without my father ” flouting [his] sexuality”.

  • MrRobotoLA

    In the immortal words of Inigo Montoya: I do not think that words means what you think it means, Dr. Stabby.

  • Tigernan Quinn

    Right out of 1995.

  • Paige Turner

    Say what ever you want Ben – 2 things are for sure

    You won’t be getting the nomination
    Your party will not be putting a Republican President in the whitehouse in 2016

    12 Years in the wilderness. Thats going to hurt.

    • JCF

      Better than “12 Years a Slave”: something else from the Good Old Days (I’d remind) Dr Stabby.

  • He is a smoke screen. He and the others, they are doing all this crazy bullshit to distract and maybe expose. There might be an ideological purge in the process, removing the crazy that has plagued them for decades. The distract part might be something else is going on. I am going to be severely disappointed if it is something basic and simple as throwing out these extreme candidates as a distraction to make the rich people’s paid for and more moderate candidates seem reasonable, especially since the crazies are scaring people into a frenzy.

    • David L. Caster

      Whether planned or not, the Overton window is being widened by the extreme candidates on the right.

      • Which would allow the policies of the less insane to get through, such as mass surveillance whose only benefit has been to increase the bloated surveillance industry and other marketing partners.

        • David L. Caster

          And a whole lot more insanity becomes thinkable, even “normal” in the minds of low-information voters which make up far too much of the mushy middle that swings the outcomes of close elections.

  • SoCalGal20

    Curious what Dr. Stabby has to say about the order the other day that allows women to serve in all combat roles.

    • Reality.Bites

      Better them than me?

  • Slam De Do’

    “Deal with the transgender thing somewhere else,” Carson said.

    Just for the sake of discussion, Stabby–Okay, where? Where would you think it appropriate to try to provide an opportunity for transgendered individuals to integrate into society, and stop marginalizing them as freaks and defecitves? Or will you say that it’s not the goverment’s role or responsibility to make sure that marginalized minorities get equal treatement? So how many African-American brain suregons would there be without government programs and government enforcement to make sure that qualified individuals aren’t intentionally denied opportunity? I’m guessing it would be very interesting to know which programs and opportunity initiatives Stabby benefited from on his way to Johns Hopkins. What a wretched motherfucker Stabby is, with his “I gots mines, now slam de do’.” attitude. Clearly, some people are born to be Republicans, regardless of race.

    • To be sorta fair to Dr. McStabby, until quite recently, John Hopkins was very anti-LGB, and quite rabid against T. I’ve heard tell they have recently reversed their position, which is a blessing.

  • Amanda B. Rekendwith

    Why Ben, why?

  • Balderdashing

    If he believes this, then it’s equally inapt to openly display one’s HETEROsexuality. So take off your wedding ring, put those family photos in your desk and shut up about your wife. Similarly, talking/flouting your religion is inappropriate, so take that cross off your neck, take down your exterior Christmas decorations and get all that Christmas-themed advertising off the TV and out of the stores. And of course, stop spouting off about what you believe, particularly with respect to how others should act. That won’t be a hardship, will it, Ben?

  • coram nobis

    It’s FLAUNTING your sexuality, Einstein. Not flouting. Two different terms.

  • Alan43

    Yes, I’m sure that are soldiers are just incapable of dealing with all of that “flouting”. I’m sure, even among Iraq veterans, it’s one of their primary concerns

  • Jim

    That’s it for me with Ben Carson. I cannot support anybody for president who doesn’t know the difference between “flout” and “flaunt” and who won’t look them up in a dictionary. BTW, Ben, we’ve given you way too many breaks. That’s over too.

    • sherman

      I’m with you. I was on the fence before. I gave him a pass when he called Hamas “hummus”, cause hey those are Muslim things anyway and who really cares. But when he screwed up good American words that’s the final straw.

      • Reality.Bites

        I confess to being a hummus supporter.

        • sherman

          Well, I’m not surprised. “Americanish” down in the Falwell story comments identified you as an Isis enabler. (I had fun with him this afternoon.)

        • coram nobis

          Ssh. Don’t let anybody know or you’ll end up at Guacamole Bay.

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            Perfect!

  • coram nobis

    How is he going to get the genie back in the bottle? “Don’t ask, don’t tell” assumed that the servicemember in question wasn’t out to begin with. Now you’ve got servicemembers who are not only out since repeal but married and probably collecting spousal benefits,BAQ or whatever. Planning a purge, Doctor?

  • John T

    Wait, don’t Republicans like it when gay people flout their sexuality? I think he meant flaunt. Anyhow, straight soldiers flaunt their sexuality all day every day. Young men with lots of testosterone do that.

  • coram nobis

    Seems there was a time when African-American military personnel were excluded from most MOSs, and segregated in low-level jobs like ammunition handlers. Anybody remember the Port Chicago incident in 1944? Hey, Stabby? There’s a nice can of worms for you to open.

    • Steve Teeter

      Port Chicago, 1944? Yeah I think I remember. Massive munitions explosion that blew up several ships and much of the port. And most of the dead were African-American because they’d been given the menial job of loading the (defective) munitions onto the ships.

      Many African-American leaders were pretty upset about this, but their protests didn’t go very far.

      Do I remember correctly, Coram Nobis?

      • coram nobis

        The biggest single loss of African American military personnel in that war, and it was in Contra Costa County, not overseas. And they were expected to go back and keep on loading, and there was a work stoppage, of course. Navy called it mutiny.

  • GayOldLady

    I miss the good old days too, the days when Dr. Stabby wasn’t on the political stage at all. He can’t be just another bad GOP political memory soon enough to suit me. Maybe he can return to Stabbing people for a living cause he sure as hell is never going to be POTUS.

  • lymis

    If he thinks our active servicemembers don’t talk about sex or flaunt their sexuality, then he’s never spent ANY time around our active servicemembers.

    • Bingo. Heterosexual soldiers talk about their spouses all the time and they also talk about their boyfriend/ girlfriend, date, random sexual encounter…ect all the time. It’s not like the topic of sex or sexuality or having a spouse only came up when DADT went away.

  • Max_1

    *this comment comes heavily laden in sarcasm*
    I miss the good old days before the 13th Amendment…
    … But don’t call me a racist.

    Like that Mr Dr Stabby?

  • Max_1

    Support the troops, much? Mr Dr Stabby?

  • Eric in Oakland

    Says the man flaunting his race and religion…

    • And Flaunting his sexuality….I mean he has been seen with his wife….how dare he flaunt his sexuality and bring it up when there are more important things to do!!!!!!!! (funny how it only becomes “flaunting ones sexuality” when it is a gay person.)

  • coram nobis

    “… It’s not necessary, you don’t need to talk about that, we need to talk about how we eliminate the enemy,” said the doctor.

    Time was, when African-American soldiers were kept out of frontline units, a few generals took another view. George S. Patton, to the 761st Tank Battalion, 1944:

    “Men, you’re the first Negro tankers to ever fight in the American Army. I would never have asked for you if you weren’t good. I have nothing but the best in my Army. I don’t care what color you are as long as you go up there and kill those Kraut sonsofbitches. Everyone has their eyes on you and is expecting great things from you. Most of all your race is looking forward to your success. Don’t let them down and damn you, don’t let me down! They say it is patriotic to die for your country. Well, let’s see how many patriots we can make out of those German sonsofbitches.”

  • Max_1

    The mindless brain surgeon talks…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc

  • coram nobis

    More from the good old days of a segregated military. Letters to the editor, Army magazine Yank, 1944:

    – – –
    Dear Yank,

    Here is a question that each Negro soldier is asking. What is the Negro soldier fighting for? On whose team are we playing? Myself and eight other soldiers were on our way from Camp Claiborne, La., to the hospital here at Fort
    Huachuca. We had to lay over until the next day for our train. On the next day we could not purchase a cup of coffee at any of the lunchrooms around there. As you know, Old Man Jim Crow rules. The only place where we could be served was at the lunchroom at the railroad station but, of course we had to go into the kitchen. But that’s not all; 11:30 a.m. about a two dozen German prisoners
    of war, with two American guards, came into the station. They entered the lunchroom, sat at the tables, had their meals served, talked, smoked, in fact had quite a swell time. I stood on the outside looking on, and I could not help but
    ask myself these questions: Are these men sworn enemies of this country? Are
    they not taught to hate and destroy all democratic governments? Are we not
    American soldiers, sworn to fight for and die if need be for this country? Then
    why are they treated better than we are? Why are we pushed around like cattle?
    If we are fighting for the same thing, if we are to die for our country, then
    why does the Government allow such things to go on? Some of the boys are saying that you will not print this letter. I’m saying that you will.

    -Cpl. Rupert Trimmingham
    Fort Huachuca, Ariz.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Ben who?

    • coram nobis

      Ben Dover, the proctologist said.

      • anne marie in philly

        dingdingding, comment of the day!

  • glass

    Ok Dr Stabby, lets talk about eliminating the enemy. We need to build a huuuuuuge wall the keep religion out of our US government. And we are going to make the churches pay for it. Separation of church and state is the only way to to make America great again.

  • fuzzybits
  • Bill Kenny

    Dr. Carson doesn’t know the difference between “flouting” and “flaunting.”

    • JCF

      The LEAST of the things he doesn’t know!

  • So when a soldier brings his wife or her husband to a military event like a Holiday meal or a summer cookout is that flaunting their sexuality? Now how about if a gay person does it? Or if a soldier talks about his date with his girlfriend or her wedding plans and who he is bring to the wedding is that flouting their sexuality? Now what about if a gay person does it. It’s not about going around taking about ones sexuality, it is about a part of life that naturally comes up when you know people well and live and work with them.

  • Robincho

    I miss the good old days when no one had ever even heard of this idiotic fuck…

  • cleos_mom

    Dumbadze doesn’t even know what “flouting” means.

  • Ninja0980

    Since the repeal of DADT, no one has had a problem with it’s repeal but the bigots, whom simply can’t stand that all their bigoted predictions didn’t come true.

  • Gene Perry

    Does Carson have to go around “flouting his sexuality” by bringing his “wife” to all his campaign events? I mean, really …

  • MarkOH

    OMG, LOVE the photo from the article.

  • JaniceInToronto

    I’m glad he keeps talking publicly about his insane ideas and beliefs.
    It allows everyone to see just how nuts he really is.

    Keep talking Ben!