Harlem Hate Pastor James David Manning Warns: If You Disrupt My Church We Will Murder Your Family And Then Piss On Their Graves [VIDEO]

Early this week Harlem hate Pastor James David Manning was among the group of black clergy who met with Donald Trump. In the clip below, Manning recounts how one of the pastors at the meeting  (whom he refers to with the N-word) mentioned apologizing to his congregation after protesters allegedly “stormed the pulpit.” Pastor Manning would like you to know what will happen if anybody tries that at his church.

“You come to the ATLAH World Missionary Church, you try to get to the pulpit or you try to get anywhere and put hands on me or Elizabeth, here’s what’s gonna happen. The men of the church are going to immediately leave the service and find your family members and castrate the men and slit the throats of the women. That’s what the men of the church are gonna do. We’re gonna find all your family members. And then the men of the church are gonna piss on the graves of your ancestors.”

Jesus is love, you guys!

  • Taylor

    PLEASE….just stop giving this asshole the publicity he craves.

    • Friday

      Here’s those Republicans’ chance to do something about the violently mentally-ill, starting with that church full of them apparently.

      • David Walker
      • cleos_mom

        All anyone in Foggy Bottom or thereabouts would have to do is utter the phrase “people of faith” and the schmekels would be running for cover. Including more than a few Democrats.

    • Michael McReavy

      Exactly. He’s a joke. But he is click bait. Another case of ‘follow the money’.

      • Skokieguy

        He’s not a joke. He will cause an unbalanced person to commit LGBT violence. This kind of fear mongering is just what someone on the edge needs. Just as Carly Fiorina and others have blood on their hands for their lies about baby parts, so does Pastor Seme Latte.

    • Skokieguy

      I disagree, his statements of evil and violence must be documented and widely (sorry) disseminated. Republicans get outraged when ISIS shouts “Death to America”. This pastor is the same – except he’s doing it from US soil and subsidized by your and my tax dollars.

      • Strepsi

        His words must be like a Starbuck’s latte: disseminated.

      • Schlukitz

        “subsidized by your and my tax dollars.”

        That’s the part that pisses me off the most! 🙁

        • Skokieguy

          I frequently make that point in this type of posts, as we are often so busy being pissed off, some of us may forget that our tax code forces us to subsidize him. If the tax exemption were removed, you’d watch organized religion disappear by half. Joel Olstein would move on to a new scam and Pastor Manning would be selling used cars “Warranted by Jesus!” TM

          • Schlukitz

            No one would be happier to see their tax exemption removed…and witness the sudden shrinkage of “believers” by at least half, if not more.

            Amelia Earheart will make an apperance before that ever happens, however. 🙁

      • jomicur

        And I’m sure he or his staff have already prepared the press release disavowing any responsibility when one of his followers does something heinous, as instructed.

      • Villager

        and he’s doing this in NYC…

    • Todd20036

      I disagree. Cockroaches hate the light, and people who think that Christianity is somehow “better” than Islam need to see religious people like this.

    • Taylor

      How large is his congregation? How many people would actually hear the BS that he spouts, if it wasn’t made public?

      Sorry, if you’re worried about someone on the edge going over the edge by hearing something that he says, it seems to me that last thing you would want to do is broaden his audience?

  • Joe knows who I am.

    Guys, we need more semen!

    • Dale Paris

      Where are Hans and Franz when you need them.

    • Paula

      Yeah, no can do, bud. You’re on your own. Although, I am sure several members of the forum would be delighted to help you facilitate your contribution. 😉

      • Joe in PA

        you naughty girl. 😉

      • Todd20036

        You have a sick sense of humor Paula.

        Come sit by me….

      • Joe knows who I am.

        My word Paula, Of course I didn’t mean you, you’re a woman. You’re just supposed to bring the coffee! 😀 /jk

        please don’t hit me.

        • Paula


      • Ed Burrow

        Have u really ever looked at the word “facilitate”? Isn’t it really dirty looking? It is a dirty sounding word.

  • Pollos Hermanos

    This is all I got.


  • Captain Jack

    Yeah… And your mother sucks cock in hell!

    • RaygunsGoZap

      God I hope

  • This isn’t an original plan. The blueprints for this type of domestic terrorsim are written in the Bible. God himslef conducted the very same assualt multiple times.

  • SunsetGay

    And all this time I was worried he was going to pour semen-latte on my grave.

  • Galvestonian

    Don’t ya just love it ? There surely ain’t nothing like good old fashioned “burn them at the stake” Christianity. The good old days of pillorying and drowning, burning and killing – he sounds more like the KKK than the KKK does.

  • oikos

    If I lived closer I would be at his church every week kissing my husband on the fucking steps, carrying gay rights signs and handing out Starbucks.

    • Joe in PA

      you could help with the semen infusing. 🙂

      • oikos

        Always happy to sacrifice to further the Gay Agenda.™

      • SammySeattle

        Some poor twink is in the back room being mercilessly wanked for your latte. (paraphrased from Justin Sayre)

        • David Walker

          Mercilessly wanked…and lovin’ it. Oh. Different chain. I mean different franchise.

        • Bryan

          And you have….evidence of this….twink wankery you say? I….I’m afraid sir I have to confiscate your documentation…for research purposes, entirely.


  • Baby Dave

    Oh, look.

    • Jimmie Z

      I never tire of seeing this siwwy wabbit.

  • This isn’t an original plan. The blueprints for this type of domestic terrorsim are written in the Bible. God himslef conducted the very same assualt multiple times.

  • JoeMyGod

    Just your everyday Donald Trump supporter.

    • David L. Caster

      Apparently this is the radicalized variety.

    • Baby Dave

      Her expression seems to be “Is that Donald’s Trump’s hand on my ass?”

  • Judas Peckerwood

    WWJD? I think we have an answer.

  • Octavio

    I can feel the glow of his christain love all the way from Harlem to my adobe abode here in Nevada. Why, the solarium is just bursting with cheesy rice sunshine.

    • Joe in PA

      I know, I want to break in to a rousing rendition of “And They’ll Know We Are Christians, By Our Love, By Our Love.”

  • The Milkman

    He seems nice. Wonder if he’s single

    • sherman

      Get in line, buddy.

  • Dale Paris

    So I conclude that christianity is no different than islam. Thanks for clearing that up Mr. Manning.

  • And this terrorist cult of death is tolerated, why?

  • Blake Jordan

    Can he be arrested now???

    • Schlukitz

      Unfortunately not, since the death threats were issued to no one specific person.

      What is truly sad about this sort of thing, is that no one does anything about these kind of threats when they are made. It is only after the threat has been carried out, that the authorities are willing to do anything.

  • bkmn

    So why is this “ministry” given tax-exempt status?

    • lymis

      Fear of being castrated and pissed on?

  • Mark

    Such a big, big man…..I mean…mouth….as in bulldog mouth with poodle ass. This asshole wouldn’t last 15 seconds up against a wet newspaper.

  • Ninja0980

    Remind me the difference between this fool and Islamic extremists?

    • Chucktech

      He luvs jeezis. Islamic terrorists? Not so much.

      • Todd20036

        They love Allah, a pedo

    • oikos

      Slightly different Abrahamic version of gawd.

    • cleos_mom

      In part, geography. Both come from a part of the world that’s been a stinking, puss-filled boil on the planet’s ass for centuries.

  • Does anyone know what the gun laws are in NYC? Here in Virginia you are not permitted to carry, open or concealed, a gun into a church.

    • Paula

      Most likely the same for NYC. Even here in Texas a concealed permit dos not allow carrying in a church.

    • oikos

      For the state:


      Most licenses issued in New York City are for on-premises possession only, for self-defense within the home or business. Transporting the handgun to and from a target range is permitted, but the firearm must be unloaded and in a locked container directly to and from a range within city limits. Traveling through New York City with a license issued from another jurisdiction within New York State must be done in accordance to law (locked box, in vehicle’s trunk, no unnecessary stops).[5][6][22]

  • Gigi

    Two things: 1) What happened to “turn the other cheek?” 2) Why isn’t this man in jail?

    • lymis

      When you’re peeing on someone’s ancestor’s graves, you have to turn both cheeks when you swivel at the hips to aim.

    • David Walker

      1) Don’t know. Ran out of cheeks to turn years ago.
      2) Because Jeebus.

    • Sk3ptic

      Though it doesn’t answer your question, prison is where he started. He’s an ex-con.

      • Gigi

        Ah. So he went in straight and came out totally fucked. Got it. Thanks.

      • oikos

        Bet he turned his cheeks a few times in prison and now he can’t stop fantasizing about it.

        • Sk3ptic

          Oh, I’m certain of it. He’s so scared of his prostate calling out like a cat in heat that he’s gone completely irrational. Hell, I can hear it from hear.

    • Todd20036

      As for the turning of the other cheek, thing, I’ve turned a few other people’s cheeks over the course of my adult life.
      Does that count?

    • Mark Lewis

      You’d think turning that cheek would prevent that seed from being spilled. Isn’t that what they want?

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Apologies are for pussies. Jesus Christ said, “turn the other cheek”, just like a little girrrrl!

  • Sam_Handwich

    great, now i’m craving a Pumpkin Pubic Hair Chai Latte with Whipped Precum topping

  • When she dies she should get cremated so he can’t piss on her grave.

  • bryan

    I am glad Joe keeps a record of christian fundamentalist fascism. Because pastors like Manning, Sanderson and the Phelps family, say publicly what people with more power, like Tony Perkins, think privately. In a sense, Manning and the Westboro Baptist church are far more honest. Perkins and Brown hate ‘nicely’, so that they can get donations and publicity. But they want us just as dead or in prison as Manning does.

    • Chucktech

      Fascism, bullshit. This is American Christian Terrorism.

      • Todd20036

        If you want to really see fascism, check out Trump. No hyperbole there, either.

  • RJ Tremor

    This man really is no Christian. He’s like Fred Phelps but with a lot more viciousness and spite.

    • noni

      He says he is a Christian. On what basis do you claim he is not?

      He is simply reading the Bible as he sees it. Isn’t that what all Christians do?

      What ever fits their bigotry toward others they will find a passage and quote from the bible.

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Well now, hell: Where are we supposed to put the semen infused frappachinos if we can’t put them next to you on the pulpit?

  • TuuxKabin

    I understand what’s going to happen to the family, but what about the person who ‘defiles’ his church? Will that person have to attend services all the time? He’s not clear.

  • Sk3ptic

    Well book me a flight to Harlem!

  • RaygunsGoZap

    Well, not to be rude Pastor, but I’m pretty sure the police will shoot down your Jesus Murder Squad before they are finished jaywalking.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    He drinks

    • billbear1961

      I don’t think booze is the ONLY problem!

  • zhera

    Someone tweet tRump and ask him if he condones this call for violence.

    Oh wait, who am I kidding. He’ll just say ‘they have it coming’.

  • Bj Lincoln

    Wow! Remind me what religion he supports. He sure don’t sound like the christians I know.

  • jomicur

    But Islam is a violent religion and Christianity is all about peace and love and like that. Yeah, sure.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    “Pastor” Manning and his “church’s” theme song:


    • Macbill

      Papa John, Jorma, and Jack! Yessir.

  • Sean

    Sounds like a terrorist threat against REAL Americans practicing their first amendment right to peacefully assemble.

  • The Professor

    Sounds like a threat of violence. Time to lock this maniac up.

  • Ed Burrow

    I didn’t even watch it yet. But funny that it should be posted. I’m actually on my way right now to go see this church in person. Additionally, (and sorry for hijacking the thread) , Ganymede and myself are trying to meet up for dinner or drinks or something later on in the city. If anyone else would like to or is able to, email me at Kalibra197715 at Gmail dot com.

    • Sam_Handwich

      wear a rain coat!

    • Octavio

      Take lots of photos. Post them. Especially the nude ones. 🙂

      • GanymedeRenard

        LOL. That would be up to Ed. 😉

    • Schlukitz

      For your own safety, I would be exceedingly cautious of any direct meeting or confrontation with the “Good Reverend” Manning when you go to see this church.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Or hotforaction at Gmail dot com.

      The more, the merrier!

    • Wynter Marie Starr

      Have fun and stay safe! The both of you.

  • JT

    Will that be semen flavored latte pis?

  • octobercountry

    Said it before and I’ll say it again—this guy is most definitely mentally disturbed. There’s something REALLY not right about him; the craziness goes far beyond his belief system and the various issues he has.

    • noni

      Yes he did appear to be mimicking the 700 Club with Pat Robertson and has even now included a female sidekick (equally mentally ill) just like Pat.

  • bambinoitaliano


  • SammySeattle

    So, that’s the meaning meaning of the “Turn the other cheek” passage: castration, murder and piss.

  • Schlukitz

    This piss poor excuse for a human being is clearly a deranged lunatic who needs to be placed behind bars for his own protection and that of the general public.

    He is a walking menace to society.

  • BobSF_94117

    So, if someone attacks him, the male members of the church are going to leave and go find that person’s relatives to mess them up.

    Not that I would advocate violence, but it sounds like all we need is someone with no living relatives (or relatives he or she doesn’t much care for).

    These folks just do not think things through…

  • billbear1961

    This is the heart and soul of the insanely hateful, psychotic American right.

    And the leaders in the GOP, vying to become their party’s nominee for the presidency, do NOTHING to discourage it: they now wink at it and sometimes actively encourage this spirit of truly murderous fascism that is increasingly sweeping the land!

    They CULTIVATE it!!

    And the media sit back and let it run RAMPANT!!

    Does this Republic have NO valiant defenders left?! Weimar was ALSO left undefended!!

    Where is the moral OUTRAGE of decent and responsible citizens in every walk of life, but especially in the press and in the political class, to adamantly DENOUNCE this hateful INSANITY??

    I thought Palin’s 2008 hate rallies were appalling, but they PALE in comparison to what we are hearing and seeing now: threats of violence and murder, assault and battery at right-wing political rallies, a Murder Campaign directed at PP and fueled by MAD and TWISTED lies by the VERY people, candidates for the presidency of this nation, who should be doing EVERYTHING in their power to STOP this hateful MADNESS!!

    Will Trump and his colleagues chuckle at Manning’s outrageous threats?? Or will they finally take a stand and reverse their party’s FREE FALL into outright FASCISM??

    Nothing obliges us to EVER accept the “leadership” of such GANGSTERS–NOTHING–EVER!!

    On the contrary, if we truly believe in genuine democracy and enlightened Civilization, we are obliged to oppose these criminals in EVERY way that we can!!

    • Schlukitz

      I agree totally with each and every word that you have written, Bill.

      Al of l this is coming to pass because apathy is at an all time high in America. No one seems to give a good shit!

      Unfortunately, I do not see any possibility of a great awakening in the near future. Too many dumb fucks are voting these pathetic excuses for human being into public office and which is a sad reflection of where the great majority of the voters seem to be these days. 🙁

      • billbear1961

        The electorate does not inspire confidence, Schlukitz!

        Will we EVER arrive in a new world FREE of this poisonous threat to democracy and civilized life?!


        (I’m so glad to see you back!!)

        • Schlukitz

          So glad to be back, Bill. I have been as busy as the proverbial one-armed paper hanger getting my place in New York in order. 😉

      • cleos_mom

        And other dumbfucks stay home on election day — especially at midterms. They deserve every crumb as much contempt, and more.

    • David L. Caster

      Those of us that know these things have an obligation to act. Doing so is as simple as voting and helping the likeminded to register and vote. We must not turn to anger but instead remain calmly determined.

      Irrespective of the damage done by the traitorous demagogues, we still have a functional system that can be used to defeat this evil. I’d suggest we use it to send an unmistakable and clear signal that we will no longer tolerate the fascistic oligarchs that threaten to strangle the fife out of the republic and crush freedom.

      • billbear1961

        I agree with what you say, David, but think there are times when anger and an expression of anger are fully justified and called for.

        One of the reasons the right keeps getting so much WORSE in this country is because, no matter WHAT they say or do, the great bulk of the country says little or nothing in response and LETS them get away with their appallingly BAD, flagrantly dishonest and increasingly dangerous behaviour.

        They push and push and meet with LITTLE real and determined resistance, which only emboldens the hateful THUGS to push FURTHER.

        Their insane LIES about PP are now getting people killed. And what is their reaction? They are doubling down!

        There comes a time when outraged decency has a RIGHT and I believe a DUTY to DENOUNCE such grossly immoral, even criminal misconduct.

        That time is HERE–such a response is LONG overdue.

        It’s time for PUSHBACK; of course, of the kind you suggest–without that we would ultimately FAIL.

        But a concerted and sustained rhetorical pushback is ALSO called for–and vitally necessary–to counter their relentless 24/7 propaganda machine!

        Our leaders and REAL journalists must hold liars and extremists accountable in the public arena–in the court of public opinion–on a DAILY basis!!

        For FAR too long, David, we’ve let the madmen on the right set the agenda and keep us forever on the defensive!

        That has GOT to STOP, or this republic is FINISHED!!

        WE must go on the offensive and ATTACK their conspiracy to undermine and destroy the very “functional system” you speak of!!

        For they ARE undermining it, David! They have been for YEARS! And we must do everything we can to frustrate and HALT their SEDITIOUS work before it is TOO LATE!!

        • David L. Caster

          We also have a voice. I’m very much for using it.

          I’d suggest that all of us with any kind of public speaking skills and the ability to orate, make an effort to be heard. If anyone has any particular area of expertise, then offer to appear on television or be interviewed. Have your wits about you and control your emotions when you are given a chance to speak. Writing a few words here does little by comparison to what is needed. Find platforms that genuinely amplify your voice and let it be heard.

          Consider working with local political groups that share your values and understanding of the world and what is happening in it. That’s a very good way to multiply your influence. I’m starting to search for those opportunities now and hope others will do the same.

          • billbear1961

            Sadly, what little “skill” I may possess is limited very largely to the written word, David. 🙁

            (Besides voting and encouraging other to, I can also make phone calls when I’ve prepared something like a little script for myself, and, of course, I can make small financial donations.)

            I certainly encourage YOU to speak out if your skill speaking in public is comparable to the strengths of your posts on JMG!

            And I wish you all the luck in the WORLD convincing others of what we KNOW must be done to preserve this democracy and to see it prosper and move towards full social JUSTICE!

          • David L. Caster

            Working on it.

        • Steve Teeter

          I’m not usually one for Christian apologetics, but C. S. Lewis came up with a good one, somewhere in his Space Trilogy: that God created hate so that man might have an appropriate response when confronted with genuine evil.

          We’re confronted with genuine evil, and have every right to get mad about it. As you do, Mr. Bear.

          • billbear1961

            Thank you, Steve!

  • JaniceInToronto

    What an engaging character…

  • Steven B

    The men of your church will “castrate the men and slit the throats of the women.” Because that’s what Jesus teaches. WWJD?

    • billbear1961

      Yes, VERY consistent with “turn the other cheek.”

  • 2patricius2

    Sounds like he needs a visit from the FBI for his threats.

  • Guest

    This place is on the SPLC watch list, right?

  • GanymedeRenard

    1. I’m glad to see that the honorable Mr. Trump is being backed by people of such respectable and noble kind.

    2. And the White House is responsible for this sort of rhetoric, correct, Mr. Perkins?

    • billbear1961

      That’s PerKKKins, sweetie!

      • GanymedeRenard

        It’s actually Tony Duggar Perkkkins Duggar Duke Duggar, Mr. Bear. Remember?

        • billbear1961

          Indeed, I do, yes!


          • GanymedeRenard

            I knew you did! Hugs!

          • billbear1961



  • Gustav2

    Googled: protesters storm the pulpit at black church

    got nothing that fit the discription. Hmmmmm.

  • GanymedeRenard

    O T/ Are there any fellow JMG readers in NYC tonight who might be up for some drinks or something? @edburrow:disqus and I will be around. (You’re more than welcome to join us, papa Joe! I’m a local, but suggestions are always welcome. 😉

    Feel free to drop a line or two: hotforaction at gmail dot com.

    • LonelyLiberal

      But are you and Ed actually in the state the e-mail address implies?

      • GanymedeRenard

        Ha! Good catch.

        No, we’re in the state of NY (I live here, Ed’s visiting and not staying with me). We’re not planning anything kinky (I think). :p

        • LonelyLiberal

          Too bad. I only do kink. After a good dinner, of course.

          • GanymedeRenard

            Not against the idea, though.

        • Ed Burrow

          We’re gonna find a lonely dark warehouse and uh…

          • GanymedeRenard

            Goodness gracious, sir! You’re taking me for a person who’d love to do that person with a questionable morality! *Fans and faints*

  • James

    Uttering specific threats. Surely THAT’S illegal?

    • billbear1961

      Jesus, you’d think so!

  • noni

    Where are the NALTs?

    Blubbering about ‘we’re not all like that’.

    • Steven Leahy

      I haven’t seen NALTS utter even the most feeble support for us for YEARS.

    • NALT-er: “But MY church marches in the Pride parade every year!” — me: yeah ..um thanks.

  • JVB

    Doesn’t that count as a terrorist threat? Can the ineffectual NYPD do anything with this?

  • noni

    You can do and get away with anything in the name of Jesus as long as you pray for forgiveness each time you do something illegal or immoral.

    This is the miracle of Christianity.

    • Don’t forget, you can keep on doing what ever (mass murder, torture, kiddie diddling , grand theft) on a daily basis and all you have to do is say, “I believe in Jebus” and it’s all good.

  • Marides48

    Talk much hate lately? I always thought that chrisitists were all about peace & love?

  • Rod Steely

    I said this in other posts today: Dude- your god is an asshole. But then again I guess you made god in your own image.

  • anne marie in philly

    I’d rather piss on him right now!

  • dcurlee

    it must be so sad to harbor so much hate. He has no clue on anything

  • Brooklyn Joe

    I’m not really sure how threatening to murder people and slit their throats is legal – even from the pulpit

  • Baby Dave

    I really should pay attention to the guy on the left side of the frame, but I just can’t tear my eyes away from the pancake makeup on the right. Or that hideous perm. Or the college – dorm poster of an ancient world map is fake gold foil.

    Christians make so much money from donations made by their “flock”, so why do they dress like that?

  • And now, brothers and sisters, let us turn to hymn number 201, They Will Know We Are Christians By Our Love.

  • Vatican Lokey

    I expected this out of Manning. My question is this: is “Sabbath” her first name or her “church title”?

  • Christian Terrorist, a strong member of Christian ISIS. Christianity should be thrown out of America, the sooner the better.

  • Alan43

    Take your meds Rev!

  • scottrose


  • nipper

    See something say something? Sure as hell sounds like a threat to me.

  • DaveMiller135

    Should you continue operating your Christian business tax-free, when you demonstrate that you don’t understand the basic tenets of your religion?

  • pj

    where is the outrage in the NYC gay community about this guy. how can he say this stuff and get away with it.

  • Jmdintpa

    oh lawd RuPaul looking rough.

  • Halou

    ISIS agents in the United States.

    Disrespect our select interpretation of religion and we wont just murder you brutally we will do so in a barbaric way, also do damage to monuments to the people who came before you.

  • Ray Page

    Well, he seems nice.

  • Gianni

    God’s love and caring and compassion is just too much for me to absorb.

  • newtosf921

    These statements continue to reinforce to me that this man is severely mentally ill along with religiousity! And, I thought the bible stated th ou shall not murder! This is a man that thou protests a little too much!

  • glass

    I think it’s spelled “Hitler World Missionary Church”

  • David Shelton

    He seems serious. Maybe a call into the local law enforcement or FBI may shut his shit hole!

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    Just ask yourself Who Would Jesus Murder?

  • And he calls himself a man of god? geesh!

  • Red_Ruffensor

    It’s wonderful to see God’s love in action like this.

  • He found out they weren’t putting cum in his coffee after all.

  • Let me see if I understand you clearly REVEREND Manning; Jesus walks into your church uninvited and tries to get near the pulpit. You and your members will kill him, rush out and castrate Joseph and slit the throat of Mary. Got it.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      Don’t forget that God was Jesus’ pops.

  • JCF

    “The men of the church are going to … castrate the men”

    MANning can’t stop thinking about men & dick. 24/7.

  • cleos_mom

    But what if said ancestors are buried in Alabama?

  • Lumpy Gaga

    I’ve never been to a Sabbath Rachel Lafleur show, but that’s a great drag name. Kudos!

  • Lloyd Peacock

    Again, another nut that the American public allow to actively denounce a group of people and threaten them with persecution. What galls me even more, is that he is Black and probably has never really experienced the hatred that his peers have in the past. These people are the real threat to Society and who allow the crazies who believe that Islam is evil, Buddhism. Hinduism, etc., are evil. Guess what people you have declared Christianity as EVIL., SHAME. This man needs to be stripped of his Pastorship and the Church closed and taxed.