Rachel Maddow: Ted Cruz Needs To Respond To Questions About That “Death To Gays” Event [VIDEO]

WATCH THIS. Last night Rachel Maddow again delivered an excellent report on Pastor Kevin “Death To Gays” Swanson and the appearances of three GOP presidential candidates on the same stage from which Swanson called for the genocide of millions of gay Americans. The Cruz campaign sent Maddow a two-word response to her inquiry – “not explicit” – meaning that they claim Swanson didn’t literally call for executions of gays, when of course the video shows that he did. While mainstream outlets have given scant, passing mentions of the “death to gays” event, Rachel Maddow remains the sole network reporter who has stayed on this story.

  • Bruno

    Swanson could be brought up on charges for such hate speech in a country like Belgium.

  • j.martindale

    The national press is so used to hearing vitriol aimed at gay people in the name of religion, they do not get offended by it.

    • Soren456

      It’s not just here.

      BBC radio, on their show “World Have Your Say,” carried by PBS, twice broadcast a “debate” on the question of the Uganda death penalty—treated it as if it were genuinely a debate-worthy topic. Completely oblivious.

  • bkmn

    For all the screeching the right did over Jeremiah Wright the Democrats should be raising the same flags over Ted Cruz, Kevin Swanson and Cruz’s batshit crazy preacher/father. Hanging out with anyone who advocates to kill or imprison groups of people should invite needed scrutiny.

    • ElenorRigby

      Republicans would mostly agree that killing us all or just letting us die is a good idea. This won’t hurt him.

      • exactly. it’s what the Base wants to hear.

      • Soren456

        “Mostly” is hyperbole. But I’d agree if “indifference” were used.

        • Todd20036

          No. It’s not. The GOTP would love us dead. If not dead then in jail. If not in jail then have us be second class citizens

          It’s not hyperbole

          • Soren456

            Oh, Jesus.

            Keep the issues separate.

            Dead? Jailed? Or second-class?

            I’ll stick with what I said: “dead” is hyperbole, and indifference to our issues is accurate.

          • Given the excuses made for the supposedly mainstream Evangelicals leaders like Rick Warren being involved in the kill the gays laws in Africa, I’m going to disagree. They won’t admit that in public, but few if any would bother objecting if those laws were passed here. They would however chastise anyone who labeled them as bigots like Republicans reguarly do when anyone calls them out on their anti-gay policies and positions.

          • Soren456

            When we speak of non-existent local issues—and a US “death penalty” is surely one of them—our false claims derail the true claims we can make about our issues.

            Our wild exaggerations get noticed, and impose an unnecessary burden on the real case that we have a perfect right to make.

            The language we use about our situation and aspirations must be unimpeachable. The words available to us are, by themselves, both truthful and hugely powerful. We shoot ourselves in the foot when we indulge in demonstrable exaggeration.

          • Gerry Fisher

            It’s not a “wild exaggeration” when we say that Rick Warren looks like a reasonable, semi-compassionate objector in the US…but then kinda sorta doesn’t see the “kill the gays” bill coming as he does his dirty work in Africa. He abandoned that effort not because he ever renounced it; he abandoned it because American journalists began to shine a light on what was happening over there.

          • Soren456

            Re-read my entry. Notice the “local” and the “US.”

            In fact, it is a VERY wild exaggeration to claim that a death penalty for homosexuality has real traction in the US, and we damage ourselves when we adhere to such nonsense and use it to try to advance our cause.

            I’ll repeat: Our case alone is described powerfully with truthful words. We don’t need exaggeration.

          • 2karmanot

            You are too young to have noticed how annoyed were the housewives living in the bucolic suburbs near Auschwitz when on certain days waxy ashen flakes fell and spoiled their pure white Aryan laundry. Your kind of accommodating, perfectly flawed logic is so very, how shall I put it: ‘Vichy’.

          • JW Swift

            Personally, I tend to believe that at least a majority of the right-wing that are middle-aged or older would not mind if we just quietly expired or something. I don’t think that they would want to pull the trigger themselves, or even be seen openly advocating for it, but if, for example, we were all to contract AIDS and die, (or something) they would not mind having us out of the picture.

          • cleos_mom

            Pretty much describes the MO for “nice people” whenever someone is enjoying the scent of genocide in the morning.

          • Gerry Fisher

            On the one hand, I understand your distinctions. On the other hand, having survived the 80s, it was chilling how easily the “second class citizens” advocates felt comfortable turning a blind eye while we died. Just a few baby steps separate many members of both of those crowds.

          • Guest

            indeed, Gerry, some of them were delighted that we were dying from what was then an incurable and terminal illness. The “you deserve it” attitude was mixed with arrogance and taunting because they were convinced that the disease would never take hold in the hetero population, and of course, it never did. Remember seeing graffiti like “GAY = Got Aids Yet”? It was funny to them.

          • grada3784

            Indifference to us and gays being totally invisible and inaudible. Second part is very important to the believers.

      • RoFaWh

        The saddest part of that belief is that it denies one of the fundamental facts about gays: we are born to straight couples.

        I wonder why that happens? [sarcasm alert!]

        • Mihangel apYrs

          I think the extermination of all bloodlines that produce gay or lesbian child …. oh dear

          • Bad Tom

            That might be everyone.

          • Mihangel apYrs

            precisely

      • bkmn

        I don’t give a rat’s ass how it plays to the TP. I want the general public to be aware that this is part of what Cruz and Huckabee believe. I think for the general elections it would make a difference, against the haterz.

        • Gerry Fisher

          The problem is that the general public doesn’t want to hear about politics right now. I’ve tried to have some conversations about it with apolitical folks, and they refuse to tune in. They’ll probably tune in after the two parties pick their nominees.

          …and, by then, it will be old news.

    • houstonray

      Such a great point. For Obama, the Republican’s screamed that it was what Obama believed because he was there…but for this one they are ‘conveniently’ silent. Typical hypocrisy….

      • Joe in PA

        but they couched it “Rev Wright was Obama’s spiritual advisor…for many years”. Right.

        • bkmn

          And how many years has Cruz’s father been his spiritual advisor?

          • Frostbite

            That would require that Cruz and his father actually have a soul to begin with.

          • Mark

            They’ve got souls…..just they are heavily packed in a lot of bull dog shit.

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          • Mark

            Teddy is attempting to lead by example….his delusional daddy being the source….

    • Herald

      Cruz is a very scary and calculating person. When / if Trump and Carson implode he stands to profit. The nomination going to him is worse than frightening. His feet need to be held to the fire on this and many other issues.

      • zhera

        I’m hoping that Cruz Sr. is too wacko for the voters to keep junior from the presidency.

        • bkmn

          That is why the Democrats need to be making this an issue. The media obviously aren’t going to do it on their own.

      • bkmn

        His GOP friends may hate him but if he were to get the nomination they would line up behind him in a heartbeat.

        • Ninja0980

          Indeed, unlike Democrats, Republicans realize that even a “RINO” is still better then a Democrat in office.
          And so they will vote, unlike our base who will stay home if they don’t like someone and thus let the Republican win by default.

      • Queequeg

        I agree. He would be the worst and most dangerous choice.

      • Cackalaquiano

        You’re right. He’s not a dumb man at all. And I see a lot of very sane folks on Facebook who support him. Scary.

    • Meanwhile no one bothered to go through the McCains’ pastor’s sermons to find equally outrageous clips to play over and over.

    • BobSF_94117

      If only Jeremiah Wright had said, “God damn America… for SSM”, then he would have fit right in…

    • Guess

      Bigot Liberation Theology

    • Ninja0980

      They are always, ALWAYS given a pass.
      They are always, ALWAYS given a pass.

    • Absolutely – IF Cruz gets the nomination, this should get the full Jeremiah Wright treatment and some.

    • 2karmanot

      Der CruzenHoss sounds like Nazi Commandant.

  • Michael Rush

    Huckabee and Jindal were there also , but all anti-gay politicians and lawmakers need to be asked , if you have a problems with homosexuals …
    WHAT IS YOUR GOAL ?
    HOW WILL YOU ACHIEVE IT ?
    WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE HOMOSEXUALS ?
    ( we have to get beyond idiotic babble about ” religious freedom ” and “family values ” , which are only an attempt to avoid answering the question )

    • Todd20036

      Jindsl is out. Huckabee is on life support. Only Cruz stands a chance

      • Fyva Prold

        >Huckabee is on life support
        You meant to say “on feeding tube”

        • TrollopeReader

          Supposedly hospital food this weekend … getting some “knee-work” done, so he can then “retire ,,,,ooops, “suspend” from his campaign with sympathy and prayers,,,,

    • RoFaWh

      Most important of all, when they waffle, say, loudly, YOU HAVEN’T ANSWERED THE QUESTION!!!

  • ElenorRigby

    The mainstream press will only use the word “gay” to tear people down. Charlie Sheen maybe sucked a guy off while high? “Sheen in gay sex scandal after AIDS diagnosis.” Senator’s boyfriend leaves him? “Law maker in gay lover scandal.”

    A gay athlete wins the gold at the Olympics ? Mainstream news won’t report it saying “that’s a private matter” and some Chriatianazi calls for us to all be exterminated? That’s secretly what most straight people want anyway. It’s not news to them. Anyone who plans on voting for Ted Cruz agrees we should all be killed anyway.

    • Wynter Marie Starr

      Although there are many straight people that would see the LGBT comity killed off, there are more that are fighting for civil rights for all and that number grow all the time. For the record, I’m straight, and I have zero desire to see the gay community killed.

      • Steven Leahy

        SO TRUE and I am thankful each and every day for every single one of our straight allies and advocates. We CLEARLY wouldn’t be where we are today without them.

        • Wynter Marie Starr

          If people were to be honest, the vast majority of us would be hard pressed to say we don’t know any gay people. The LGBT community is our family, our friends, our neighbors, and our co workers. Those that are willing to kill their family and friends and/or deny them human rights are a dying breed. It makes no sense on any level.

          • Steven Leahy

            Could you imagine being one of those guys’ closeted kids, hearing that?? Would not be a pleasant life.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            I can’t, Steven. It’s part of the reason that we have so many homeless gay youth, however. I’m a mom as most people here know. I can’t imagine what would make me throw out my kids.

      • Steve Teeter

        Yeah. My mother doesn’t want me executed, nor my brother, nor his girlfriend, nor my cousins and cousins’ children, some of whom are gay. Neither would my late relatives, like my father, aunt and uncle. In fact, some of my cousins were out in the streets in California waving “No on 8!” signs just before the 2008 election. That includes the straight ones. I’m sure my family is not the only one like this.

        So don’t talk to me about “family values.” My family has values I can be proud of.

        • Wynter Marie Starr

          Yes, those are indeed the kind of thing I think of when I think about family values. What religious extremists call family values are anything and everything but. Families and friends support each other; they don’t disown each other over innate traits.

      • Christopher Smith

        I hope you will continue to post this, because it is not said nearly often enough.

        • Wynter Marie Starr

          Sometimes it seems as though most straight people don’t care what happens to the gay community. When so called men of god speak about genocide and there is no reaction or anger from the straight community, it’s easy to feel like they don’t care. Most do even if they aren’t as vocal as I am. I get mad enough for 10 or 20 people though.

          • Christopher Smith

            That was my thought exactly…….no reaction, no nothing. It is a very strange thing.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            Most people are so self centered that unless an issue affects them directly, they find it easier to ignore. If asked about it, they will express outrage, but far too many people don’t go out of their way to know what issues affect communities they aren’t a part of. I’m not the type of person who can sit by and let an injustice or a call for genocide go by without reacting strongly. I also find it strange, Christopher that there isn’t more of an outcry. Intellectually, I understand the reasons behind it, but I don’t get it in my gut.

          • There are quite a few that do. In fact lately I find them more outraged by anti-gay statements from famous people than I am. But they often aren’t aware of stories like this if they don’t hit the mainstream media and of course none of the ones I’m thinking of are Republicans.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            I agree that if this is brought to the attention of the straight community, they will care. But people are often only concerned with what affects them. The mention of genocide ought to enrage all of us; gay, straight, left or right, black or white, religious or atheist. The thing with genocide is that once you’ve gotten rid of one hated group, it’s that much easier to go on to the next group. And that makes politicians that don’t speak out against hate speech toward any group of people complicit and dangerous.

          • perversatile

            Thank you for a clear easy to understand explanation about political genocide, I will be quoting you often.
            You just made the
            ‘What I’m Thankful for on Thanksgiving List” xoxo

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            Thank you, Perversatile. I hope your day was enjoyable.

          • JW Swift

            And since we’re focusing on the Rethuglicans in this case, I think being self-centered tends to apply more often to them than the rest of the public.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            LOL, yes they do tend to be quite self centered and certainly more than most. But, I think self centeredness is becoming very prevalent at all levels of society. Look at Twitter, FB, Instagram and other social media platforms.

          • grada3784

            Thanks for caring. All I get from most straights of my acquaintance are shoulder shrugs.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            That attitude needs to be challenged. Indifference and apathy aren’t really acceptable when genocide comes into the conversation. I’m glad you used the word acquaintance and not friend, because such people are far from your friends.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      “…and some Chriatianazi calls for us to all be exterminated? That’s secretly what most straight people want anyway.”

      Wow, that’s some industrial-strength assholery right there.

      • ElenorRigby

        OH yeah? prove me wrong.

        • Judas Peckerwood

          No, you made the over-the-top, asshole statement — prove yourself right.

          Christ, what are you like five years old?

    • Zoey

      The Homocons love him though. Civil rights for the little people.

  • Steven Leahy

    Kudos to Maddow. Maybe CNN househomos Cooper and Lemon are worried about violating CNN’s “neutrality” clause – even where genocidal maniacs calling for their own execution are concerned.

    • You’re counting on something resembling journalism from Lemon? LOL

  • John McKee

    I’m sorry, why exactly does he need to respond? Ted Cruz could not be more clear, gay people should not exist, the only nuance is how we should be cleansed from America. Mandatory conversion “therapy”, prison, institutionalized systematic private and public discrimination, you might as well go ahead and throw me off a roof.

    Ted Cruz does not have to answer for anything, he is an evil man who unfortunately shares the same horrible prejudices with his fan base. Saying Ted Cruz has to answer for associating himself with other evil people is like saying a rabid dog has to answer for biting someone. Ted Cruz is just doing exactly what Ted Cruz should be expected to do, in a different error he would be drowning witches for screwing up his dry cleaning or stoning the whore that refused to have sex with him.

    • Wynter Marie Starr

      You are correct in one way, but incorrect in another. Cruz has made his position on gays very clear and to question his statements or his attendance at the hate rally is a waste of time. But, we do need to hold his feet to the fire and demand answers as to how he proposes to treat the gay community, what rights he intends on withholding, what rights already gained will he do away with, etc.

      • John McKee

        Oh, that’s a very simple answer, he intends on treating us as poorly as his power allows, legally or within legal grey areas at best.

        In some ways perhaps he is better than say Rand Paul who has very vague ideas about liberty and freedom when it comes to gays, at least Cruz is implicate about how we can expect to suffer at his hands.

        • Wynter Marie Starr

          I agree, John, but the American public has the right to concrete answers about his policies and his plans for implementing said policies. I demand to hear about it in excruciating detail. I suspect the more detail we force him to reveal, the more his monstrous face will be revealed. What will also be revealed would be the fact that he wouldn’t stop with the LGBT community. And that’s the point we drive home, loudly and often.

          • JW Swift

            Yes, it is absolutely in our best interests to get him on the record with his answers to such questions, whether the answer might be obvious to those of us paying attention, or not.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            And that is exactly part of my point. I think most people with more than two brain cells to rub together know exactly how he feels about gays and what he’d like to do to them. It’s obvious that he agrees with the would be murderer calling for the death of gays. But, getting every bit of his opinion and the policies he’d enact regarding gay people on record is vital.

            The fact that he didn’t leave during this hate speech should be troubling to all law abiding, thinking citizens.

          • Helen Damnation

            Thank you for demanding the details. We need to get the word out about this religious asshole of monster proportions.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            It isn’t that difficult to steer a conversation that way and to let others in on this information, who may have no clue. And then ask in a wondering tone who’s the next group on the must be killed list. Use a cause they may hold dear. If they are catholic, ask how they might be treated and if they will be “allowed” to live. You may not change minds, but leave them with something to think about. If all else fails, ask them how they could justify voting for a person who seems to be on board for genocide. This really has to be a grassroots effort since the media is giving the three bigots a pass on this issue.

    • RoFaWh

      Cruz impresses me as a psychopath (not a mere sociopath). As such, he will say anything if he thinks it’s to his advantage, regardless of its truth or falsity.

      The upshot is that it’s impossible to tell what Cruz actually thinks about gays, and it may even be that he thinks nothing at all of us, but finds us a useful scapegoat when out conning the goobers.

      • Look at his record as a lawyer. I don’t think you’re exaggerating.

    • Joseph Miceli

      The English have a saying, “You are no better than you should be.”
      That is what you are saying about Ted Cruz. He is only doing what Ted Cruz does, we shouldn’t expect anything different.
      You are correct.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    It won’t be “explicit” to this bigoted jackass until the triggers are pulled and the bullets enter the heads of the LGBT community, abortions providers, atheists, the educated “elite,” the feminists, and everyone else his book of fairy tales and mythology have deemed “worthy” of death.

    By that time it will be much too late, which is why this man can’t be allowed anywhere near the White House.

    • David Walker

      This both is and isn’t Crud, is and isn’t The Donald, but there’s something about this that is horribly familiar.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgJC4Pu_tbo

      And Broderick Crawford is at his absofuckinlutely best.

      • Wynter Marie Starr

        Wow. Great use of Sociology 101. Find what you have in common, get ’em on your side because of that thing, get ’em angry and riled up, and they’re yours forever. And that is exactly what the GOP is playing at. They have tapped into the motherlode of white, christian anger and loss of privilege.

      • perversatile

        Have you read the book? I couldn’t put it down.
        This is one of the most faithful book- to script -to film,
        I’ve ever seen.

        • David Walker

          Yes, I’ve read it. The movie boggles my mind every time. Broderick Crawford just nails it. I saw the play in high school, presented by a local college. It’s the first play I remember ever being engulfed in it because the hicks rallied in the aisles for his campaign and at the capitol/assassination. All three are brilliant…and scary.

          • David From Canada

            The actress Mercedes McCambridge won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar for her role in “All The King’s Men.”

          • perversatile

            I didn’t not know there was a stage production,
            it’s a rare story that can stand the rigors
            of both a film and a theatrical version.
            Dear gawd don’t let there be a musical.

          • grada3784

            Worse. There was a Sean Penn re-make.

          • David Walker

            As with most re-makes, I didn’t bother. Somebody posted the relevant scene on YouTube. Eye rolls and “oh, please”s all around.

          • perversatile

            If you want to see something truly terrifying-
            “What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?”
            remake, staring the Redgrave sisters
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4blfZ1ZPw8I

          • David Walker

            Oh. My virgin eyes.

          • perversatile

            I’m shocked I didn’t know about it .

          • David Walker

            Shhhhhj.

  • shawnthesheep

    So what Ted Cruz and his campaign are saying is that they are just fine with Cruz appearing at events where speakers imply all gays should be put to death, so long as they don’t state it explicitly. Good to know.

    • JW Swift

      Even though it has been stated by them pretty explicitly, and on more than one occasion.

  • zhera

    Because it’s totally fine to ‘just sorta’ call for executions of gay people?

    Cruz and his people are a scary bunch.

    • Steven Leahy

      What’s worse his most of the media don’t call him or any of the others out on it, and treat him like any other respectable guest. Then we have Trump and the Mexican immigrants, and he was called out very weakly at best for the disgusting things he said. The right wing combined with a pandering and dismissive media culture is shaping up to be a really scary scene.

      • another_steve

        The mainstream media are happy to have Cruz and the other theofascists spout their hatred. It keeps viewers watching past the next Cialis commercial.

        Don’t look to commercial TV to respond fully and unequivocally.

        They are — all of them — whores.

  • Max_1
    • Vista-Cruiser

      Unfortunately, it worked pretty effectively. And Ted Cruz and his fellow Republicans know that.

  • Prion

  • JT
  • Prion

    ,,,

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • Merv99

    There are some in the gay community who tell us that it doesn’t matter that Christian and Islamic scriptures call for our execution, and that we should just ignore that inconvenient fact, keep quiet, cross our fingers and hope that members of these blood-soaked religions refrain from exacting holy punishment against us. Well, it does matter, and Pastor Swanson and his influence with the Republican party is just the latest example of why it does.

  • Jan Wesselius

    It angers me that the other media outlets do not question Cruz and Huckabee on Swanson.

    • David From Canada

      It’s a huge red flag that there remains a great deal of homophobia in the U.S.A.
      Sad, and still so much work to be done.

  • Outright hate speech. He should be arrested and sent to jail for 10 years for trying to incite his followers and others into killing gay people. If he used the word “Jew” instead of “homosexuals” there would be an immediate arrest. The Christian Fanatic has become the Christian ISIS. Teabagistan is the home of Christian ISIS.

  • Jafafa Hots

    No he doesn’t – he’s a Republican.

  • Jafafa Hots

    Once again, here’s the DRM-free version from YouTube.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBSbD7xYd5g
    (Seriously, people, learn to stop posting MSNBC/Comcasts DRM and spyware-laden embeds…)

    • Merv99

      I played the original fine with no plugins.

      • Jafafa Hots

        You’re probably using Chrome or a similar browser, which has the DRM built in (along with other spyware, etc.)

        Firefox doesn’t put things in like that and you have to be willing to install them. It’s more privacy and security focused.

        • Merv99

          I have all plugins in Chrome turned off, including Flash. It plays fine. “DRM” and “spyware” is a little vague, so I can’t really address that.

          • Jafafa Hots

            DRM is not vague. It is Digital Rights Management… MSNBC clips contain HTML5 DRM from Comcast that requires a plugin in FIrefox. Chrome includes that DRM as part of its HTML5 video playback innately. Having Flash turned off has nothing to do with it, because HTML5 video replaces Flash video.
            As a contrast, YouTube defaults to HTML5 video (using Flash video these days only as a backup) BUT YouTube does not include DRM in its HTM5 video, so Firefox plays it without requiring a plugin in to play the DRM-hobbled video that MSNBC uses.

            As far as Chrome being spyware… Chrome is well-known as spyware among the security-conscious because, as a Google product, it tracks your web usage and reports all of that data back to Google.

            That’s why Google gives it away – Google’s product is advertising based on user data. You get a browser, Google gets valuable information about your online habits.

            If you like the features of Chrome but don’t want the spyware, there are options such as Chromium-based browsers (Chromium is the engine Chrome uses) such as Torch… which are the same thing really, but without Google’s spyware… and with added features. etc.

          • JD

            Liking startpage.com

          • johncAtl

            I reject plugins in Firefox so that’s not the problem. I found that content from Comcast requires me to disable Adblock Plus to view Comcast videos. So it appears to be either content from known ad sites, or user tracking that is the issue.

          • Jafafa Hots

            Yeah, it’s a tracker in the comcast HTML5 DRM.

          • Merv99

            DRM is vague because it’s a generic term. There are lots of different examples of DRM. It sounds like you’re referring to HTML5 DRM, which I looked up on Wikipedia and is apparently called Encrypted Media Extensions, which is a W3C “standard.” Wikipedia says EME is supported on FireFox as of a few months ago, so I’m not sure why it’s not working for you.

            As for Chrome spying on me, I’m not especially concerned. Lack of privacy is inherent with the internet. When a content provider gets my home IP address, they can figure out who I am and where I live, even without any spyware, so I always assume nothing I do is anonymous.

          • Jafafa Hots

            HTML5 video does work fine in Firefox, but Comcast has a specific variant that includes trackers, etc. and that requires a separate plugin because it is not standard HTML5 video. It’s not an error message, there is a specific DRM plugin that is requested that I refuse to install because fuck comcast.

            Off on a tangent, but tracking has gone way, WAY beyond just IP addresses and what websites you visit. I use not only adblock, but noscript, ghostery, etc. to block everything I can.
            Because fuck ’em. (A matter of principle.)

          • Helen Damnation

            It doesn’t work on my Firefox either, using Windows 10. (I know, I know…)

  • The mainstream media has mostly ignored this story so most people don’t have a clue what I’m talking about when I bring this up.

  • TampaDink

    Happy Turkey Day, Ian & Mati.

    • Schlukitz

      And a Happy Turkey day to you and yours. 🙂

      • TampaDink

        Thank! ☺☺☺

        • johncAtl

          I thought you celebrated Jack Daniels day.

          Happy turkey day to you and your hubby.

          • TampaDink

            Aw thanks, John. I do celebrate Jack Daniels Day….and Daniel Day-Lewis Day too. ☺ In fact, I celebrate all alcohol enhanced holidays. I hope that you had a good turkey day. Oh….and we did have bourbon infused dried blueberries & cranberries in the stuffing. ☺

  • Hue-Man

    I don’t dive under the covers when some government issues a Triple Extra Red terror alert; I’ve had to accept the risk of terrorism while working in both London and Paris. But when leading politicians advocate mass exterminations, I’m terrorized.

    Surely there’s space in Guantanamo for these domestic terrorists. Maybe enough of them need to be locked up there so the TeaParty will allow this torture camp to be closed.

  • EdA

    A. Weasel.The POS explicitly called for the death penalty to be imposed on over 13 million Americans on purely religious grounds, in no way different from the judicial murders of gay men by ISIS, the Taliban, and Iran’s mullahs.

    By remarkable coincidence this is about the same number of Americans who choose to be Southern Baptists and according to the explicit teachings of their chosen lord and savior (Matthew 25:41 ff), words which they claim to believe are the inerrant words of their god, have condemned themselves to burn in Hell until the end of the world and beyond. Yet no LGBT leader, self-appointed or otherwise, has ever suggested any even minimal restriction on their rights, let alone the murder of even a single Southern Baptist on religious grounds.

    B. First, going on the basis only of the much repeated extract from that one single sermon of Jeremiah Wright’s, Jeremiah Wright didn’t say anything substantively different from what Abraham Lincoln said in his Second Inaugural Address.

    C. Let’s leave aside the improbability of someone spending 20 years attending services led by a “radical” preacher. also being simultaneously a purported secret Moslem. As bkmn has pointed out — and others should too, Ted Cruz — Canadian by birth — has had sociopathic/psychopathic poison poured into him all his life by his father, a naturalized Canadian who chose not to become an American citizen until ten years ago.

  • TheSeer

    Bravo Rachel! And shame on Jake Tapper from CNN for his “grilling” of Ted Cruz on this.

  • glass

    Any elected candidate that believes that one class of people should not have the same rights as all other citizens, is not fit to hold public office.

    The only way to guarantee that these nut jobs go away is to vote. Get your friends to vote. Help others register to vote. Vote by mail if it makes it easier. And make sure the voting laws allow all citizens to have equal access to voting.

    Let’s do our best to turn America blue. Red went out 2000 years ago, let’s help it die off.

  • Robert Conner

    Christianity, unlike sexual orientation, is a choice. For any LGBT Christians who continue to harbor the delusion that their chosen religion is all about love and peace, I recommend the book There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ by Michael Gaddis. Christianity in the 4th century was what ISIS is in the 21st and its holy book hasn’t changed.

    But, but, but…you’re a “moderate” Christian, right? Then you’re basically just the tall grass the predators are hiding in. As much as I despise scum like Swanson, as much as I believe that he and the loons like him should be on a no-fly terrorist watch list, I’ll say one thing about him: he represents the Bible as it is, a book of lies, delusion, and hatred. As an atheist I warmly invite Christians to finally get right with God and face up to what their scriptures actually say.

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/269575794/Christianity-s-Critics-The-Romans-Meet-Jesus-by-Robert-Conner

  • Ninja0980

    As others have stated, Obaam has been raked over the coals by Republicans on Jeremiah Wright as well as the “mainstream” media.
    And yet, when it comes to attending a conference where the main speaker says it is okay for LGBT people to be killed because the bible says so, there hasn’t been one damn word about it other then from Maddow.
    Don’t know about you but when someone says I deserve to be killed because of religious beliefs, I tend to believe that person.
    Swanson and his ilk are no different then ISIS other then the fact the latter is doing what the former can only dream of doing.
    They all waynt us dead, simple as that and shame on the media for only focusing on one group of religious extremists while ignoring others.

  • not really paying attention to this mess, but really? what more does he “need to say?” um, his answer, if he were honest, would be “yes. jeebus and i agree, gays should be rounded up and stoned to death by xtian mobs in the public square, just like it says in the buybull.”

    he says that to his friends, and fundraisers. we all know this. he’ll never be president, and i mock and don’t care about him on purpose. he’s behind the curve and losing.

    • tasteless chap

      But Jesus didn’t say anything about the gays.

      • joe ho

        but he did condemn porneia (sins of the flesh). to his contemporary audience that would have included homosexual sex.

        • Friday

          Doubt the Greeks of the time would have been referring to a Hebrew concept of ‘sins of the flesh.’ Never mind assume that gay sex was to be lumped in there.

          • joe ho

            not an assumption. jesus and christianity grew out of the world of hebrew theology and mythology, not greek. the greek they used was adapting those hebrew moral notions contained in the old testament.

            many hebrew extra-biblical texts and commentaries on the pentateuch of the time speak of porneia. they discuss the levitican prohibitions against same-sex sex. in fact paul’s neologism of arsenokoitai is a greek adaption of the levitican hebrew man lying with man.

            the modern attempts to make the bible gay friendly are entirely without historical support. it is inherently patriarchal, misogynistic and homophobic.

          • Friday

            Well, I agree it’s inherently those things, it’s just that they also often use the false implications that ‘everyone’ had the same ideas of ‘sins’ etc, when they use Greek or something.

      • phantomreader42

        But since when have christians cared what jesus said anyway?

  • DesertSun59

    Cruz has made it clear that he is trying to be a fundamentalist preacher and not a politician. He has made dozens of references to how much he hates gays.

  • bob

    No LGBT in their right mind would vote for cruz. He probably knows that and doesn’t give a hoot what any of us think.

    • johncAtl

      Except for Mati and Ian. Oh wait, you said “in their right mind.”

    • Gigi

      Operative words being “in their right mind” of course.

  • Joseph Miceli

    Bring it. I am a four year Army Vet, and I’m still expert with a .45.
    The Second Amendment applies to gay people, too. Suck on that bible-fucktards!

  • NeverEclipsed

    Thank you Rachel. I still haven’t forgotten about this.

  • Homo Erectus

    ..

  • Mark

    By “explicit” does Ted mean he won’t reveal the name brand of his queen size douche bag?

  • TheSpinMonkey

    Cruz is a coward!

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Mark

      Unfortunately that somewhat implies that at some time he was somewhat not mentally ill – which probably occurred during the time that this nut was free falling from the daddy tree. Of course, that implies daddy’s insanity didn’t get passed on…..

  • Skipper Doyle

    We don’t have on the left, or centre left, the same mechanisms for propaganda that exists on the right. We have nothing to compare with Limbaugh, etc, or Fox. And though there are left-leaning blogs there’s nothing like Breitbarth or WND. I don’t disagree with you but we on the left simply don’t have the same kind of structures that spread about the nonsense about then candidate Obama.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Cruz and other Republicans who endorse the murder of gay people are no better than Scott Lively and Obama BFF Rick Warren, who supported and helped build the Ugandan christer Kill the Gays movement.

    They’re all very dangerous and should be prosecuted for fomenting crimes against humanity.

  • Bj Lincoln

    I do wish we had reporters and interviewers who weren’t such chicken shits. But then, the haters would not accept a spot on a show that blasts them for shit like this.

  • Deport this anchor-baby back to Canada.

  • Secure

    I’ve said it since the beginning of the year – Ted Cruz is the worst of the bunch running for president.

  • Rob Spangler

    OK I am going to be blunt folks. Cruz, Huckabee, and Jindal attended and spoke at a conference where not one but three supposed “men of God” called for the execution of 22,000,0000 law abiding tax paying U.S. citizens. That number is comparable to executing all the people in the state of Ohio or Illinois. This puts their evil on par with Stalin who murdered 30,000,000 + of his own people. Hitler at 6,000,000 is a putz! I don’t understand why the media or Democrats have not gone crazy calling this crime of incitement to murder and violence out!

    • phantomreader42

      There simply is nothing that a member of the GOP death cult can do that will make their fellow cultists understand how utterly monstrous they are. These people consider empathy a sign of weakness.

  • Jim

    One happy fact about this is that even though Cruz may not be hurt by his association with kill-the-gays kooks while he competes for the troglodyte vote in Republican primaries, this will dog him every hour of the day should he win the nomination. This guy is piling up a mountain of raw material that Democrats will refine into deadly ammunition for the general election.

  • Terrence Brann

    This guy is a looney.

  • DaveMiller135

    Well, that’s fine, because my vote for any Republican candidate will definitely be in the “not explicit” column.

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