Tired Old Queen At The Movies #136 [VIDEO]

“William Powell and Myrna Loy create marital bliss and movie history in their first two teamings as Nick and Nora Charles in W.S. Van Dyke’s ‘The Thin Man’ (1934) and ‘After The Thin Man’ (1936). Taken from a novel by Dashiell Hammett and based on his relationship with playwright Lillian Hellman, this off beat husband and wife detective team round up a bunch of fabulous suspects played by top notch character actors and proceed to solve multiple murders. The results are a perfect combination of suspense, hilarity mixed with a touch of sophistication that simply can’t be beat. Happy Thanksgiving!”

  • Circ09

    Can’t be beat is right. Those 2 were perfection together. No re-makes are possible.

    • bkmn

      Don’t let Hollywood hear you say that. They would be shooting a remake with Angie Jolie and Adam Sandler in a heartbeat.

      • Circ09

        Many have tried to get re-makes off the ground. It has been a long time pet project for Johnny Depp, for example. It’s amazing to me the franchise has been spared.

        • David Walker

          That’s something to be thankful for tomorrow. Besides, just because the franchise comes back doesn’t mean one has to spend one’s money on something that’s practically guaranteed to be inferior. There are so many remakes for which the question “why?” comes to mind.

          • B Snow

            What I don’t understand is why they try to remake classics. Why not remake crappy movies into something good? Maybe they had good plots but bad casting/directing, or the special effects just didn’t cut it at the time.

          • David Walker

            You’d think they’d have learned…it just doesn’t work. One excuse for not re-releasing the originals, of course, is that today’s target audience “can’t sit through” black and white movies. People who get shot and don’t have their guts hanging out apparently don’t cut it. And nothing gets re-released now anyway because everything is on DVD or Netflix.

      • The Larry Mac

        Bite your tongue!

    • 1Myles1

      Topper,same genre,perfection.
      Between the wars goodies.

      • Octavio

        Loved Topper. However, I always got Roland Young and Leo G. Carol mixed up.

        • Porkie

          Leo G Carroll was the one who got himself over a barrel.

      • Grumpy old Man

        Thank you! Ever since my dust-up with Joe in PA I have been trying to think of that book/movie/tv series. the only real tie they have for me is that I read the books, saw the movies, and the tv series of each. Well, actually now that I think about it – everybody drank all the time (IIRC, it was drunken driving that killed the couple who were the ghosts) oh, and there was a ghost dog too.

        Oh, and Smith wrote “Turnabout” in which a married couple wish the other could see things from their point of view – unfortunately, they were next to a Tiki god who switched them. Hilarity, drinking, and sex ensue.

        He wrote “Night Life of the Gods” too – same thing sort of – statues of gods brought to life – sex, drinking, and hilarity ensue.

        I’d better stop now – it seems when I was young, I read a lot and would read everything by someone I liked.

        • 1Myles1

          My pleasure.

        • Skipper Doyle

          I loved his books, too. The Bishop’s Jaegers, etc. I find the Topper films really tiresome. I wish everyone would shut up and go home. But that’s just me.

    • Cuberly

      I love both films, but my favorite of Powell’s has to be My Man Godfrey. But then I have a soft spot for Carol Lombard.

      • Robincho

        So, evidently, did Clark Gable, if you catch my meaning. When they asked Lombard how he was, she said, “Well, he’s no Clark Gable…”

        • Cuberly

          I’m such a softie. When they did that made for TV movie about Gable and Lombard I was an ole mush by the end. When Gable learns of her death I was….well….lets just say my gay card was paid up big time after my reaction to that.

          • Robincho

            Yeah… Every time I fly out of Vegas, I look at those mountains and shudder, knowing that they were her last sight. Check out “No Man of Her Own” (1932) — their only “real” screen pairing, prior to their marriage…

  • Joe in PA

    Not to mention the movie has a wonderful dog (take THAT GrumpyOldMan!).

    We have history. 🙂

    • Soren456

      Nobody could fool Asta.

      • Joe in PA

        I had a wire-fox for 13 years. He was the best! His full name Beauregard Dudley (because he was from the south). 🙂

        • Baby Dave

          In my teens, I lived in Virginia. Before I moved there, I thought nobody would actually name their kid something like Beauregard Dudley. That’s just something from the Foghorn Leghorn cartoons.

          Then I got there, and was surrounded by every variation of Vern, Billy-Bob, Beauregard and Cletus, Red, Jonnhey (I shit you not-that’s how they spelled it on his birth certificate), Asa, Ignatius, and Jedediah you can imagine. We’re not just talking badly spelled hillbilly monikers- it was like the 18th century never died

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        • Soren456

          If a wire fox terrier is like a schnauzer, its coat is what I call a tactile illusion: it looks stiff and bristly, but you touch it and it melts beneath your hand.

          At least that’s how it was with our schnauzer.

          • Joe in PA

            It depends upon how they are groomed. To get the wire coat, the show dogs are actually ‘plucked”. The soft hair (as I understand it) is pulled and what your have left is the really coarse “guard hairs”. If you just clipper them, they are mostly soft (which is what I did).

            Beau was purely a pet, and a wonderful, smart, alert, loving PET. So if anyone is still reading this thread, feel free to correct me on how the wire-haired varieties are groomed.

          • Soren456

            I didn’t know that. He had a groomer and was always soft to the touch. (I can’t imagine even trying to pluck him, if you valued your fingers.)

            And he was always inordinately proud of himself after a grooming session.

        • 2karmanot

          We got a Cocker from Alabama named Beau, but since we lived in VT we renamed him something more Yankee, so he became Bodhi.

    • Grumpy old Man

      Sigh! I will never live that down, will I?

      • Joe in PA

        prolly not. 😉

        [teasing, you’re forgiven, you said something in the height of passion…or something] LOL

  • Skipper Doyle

    Myrna Loy was Lillian Hellman????!!!!!111??

  • Prion

    I read Joe’s last two post titles too quickly:
    “Tired Old Queen of the Apocalypse” 😉

    • LonelyLiberal

      (flutters hands) “Um, God? Rivers of blood are so passe! Also, that’s a desperately outdated shade of red.”

  • BearEyes

    I love the Thin Man series – great fun.
    Anyone know if Steve ever reviewed any “Ma and Pa Kettle” movies? I had a great time watching them when I was a kid.

    • Octavio

      My maternal grandmother was Ma Kettle’s doppelganger. Same voice. Same face. Same clothes. Same bad Gibson hairdo. Same shoes. Had about the same number of kids, too. She was born in the Smokey Mountains and spent her childhood in Tennessee and Kentucky. Traveled to SLC in the 1880s as a mail-order bride for my mormon grandfather. He, like most mormons, was stranger than six hundred sheep. She was a bit more lively and lots of fun if you were a child. If you were a grown up she was an evil religious bitch whose only opinion mattered was hers. Seriously. She looked and talked just like Marjorie Main’s character. She, of course, never saw the resemblance. 🙂

      • Joe in PA

        I’ll say it again Octavio…you HAVE to write a auto-biography! These stories and anecdotes are gold!

        [looks up “Gibson hairdo”]

      • Joe in PA

        it’s YOU Octavio!

        • Octavio

          Close, but I looked more like Dolores del Rio. Damn hair kept getting in my eyes!

          • jomicur

            Ah, Dolores! I watched FLYING DOWN TO RIO a few nights ago. If there is such a thing as a camp masterpiece, that movie is it. Doloroes wasn’t much of an actress, but what an eyeful!

          • Joe in PA

            ok, dammit, I had to google Dolores…she’s a looker. I love this one with the hat. (I think someone’s glad to see me). 😉

      • barrixines

        Was Marjorie Main one of ours?

        • barrixines

          Answering my own question it seems she was. She and Spring Byington were an item.

          • Octavio

            I had to look that up. Seems she liked to lick kitties, too. 🙂

          • barrixines

            Can’t picture Marjorie with a kitty – big ol bobcat maybe.

          • Octavio

            Here she is with a more subdued version of a Gibson. Many women continued to wear their hair up until the early 1960s at which time they had all died. The Gibson, or versions of it, were popular because women with long hair never had to got to a beauty parlor. It’s one of the few hair fashions that stuck around for almost 80 years. A young Eleanor Roosevelt wore one until someone taught her how to braid. 🙂

          • barrixines

            I would have never have believed for a minute you went back before bouffant.

        • Octavio

          Sadly, no. Just a woman who never met the right man. And she spent all of her free time with her church. But she wasn’t a Republican. 🙂

    • Smartypants

      I’m not recalling that Steve has ever done a Ma and Pa Kettle, but there are several reviews that include Marjorie Main including Summer Stock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79MHy60UyA) and Meet Me In St. Louis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9W9XVzGSYw). Tired Old Queen has turned me onto so many wonderful movies. Steve is a treasure.

      • BearEyes

        Thank you!

  • another_steve

    I saw the original, recently, on Turner Classic Movies (TCM). Such fun.

    There are two reasons to have cable TV, and only two:

    (1) TCM; and

    (2) C-SPAN.

    • S1AMER

      TCM is definitely wonderful. One of the primary reasons we got a DVR years ago was so I could record the obscure movies on TCM during the daytime hours and especially in the wee hours of the night.

      But, I gotta confess here: I have the entire Thin Man set, and also the set TCM released a few years ago of other movies Loy and Powell did together.

      • another_steve

        Thank you. TCM is indeed a national treasure.

        In the wee hours of the night, TCM tends to run more of the art films. Stuff that “primetime viewers” might not necessarily be interested in.

        I recently caught a classic: “Jeanne Dielman, Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles” — a 1975 art film by Chantal Akerman, a lesbian filmmaker who, sadly, died recently.

        The film is highly acclaimed and considered by many to be a masterpiece of 20th Century cinema. Some see it as the first truly great feminist film. It can be viewed and appreciated on many levels however.

        Here it is on YouTube, in 18 small consecutive chunks:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncYs7jPRVJg&list=PL9A248DA2FBE7B0F6

        • BobSF_94117

          I blame TMC for the sad state of broadcast television today. He robbed the nation of its cultural heritage by locking up all those late-late-late-night movies.

        • Avenger280

          This month TCM has been running Fellini films on late Sunday nights. I’ve managed to record and watch “La Strada”, “Nights of Cabiria”, and “Juliet of the Spirits”.

  • another_steve

    “What’s that man doing in my drawers?”

    Oy.

    I should be so lucky…

  • Mark

    Such a great duo! Miss the days of Rita Hayworth, Jane Russell, Katherine Hepburn, Maureen O’Hara, Yvonne DeCarlo…..

  • JerryRich

    I especially like the fact that in “After the Thin Man” (spoiler alert!) a young Jimmy Stewart turns out to be the murderer.

  • kevin000

    It’s also notable in that the title character, the thin man, is not the main character, Nick Charles, but instead the skeleton that is the cause of the mystery. That doesn’t happen very often.

    • perversatile

      In ‘The Fifth Element’
      the antagonist Zorg played by Gary Oldman,
      and the protagonist Korben Dallas/ Bruce Willis,
      do not appear in a single scene together.

    • Grumpy old Man

      I kept meaning to bring that up but….
      Thanks.

  • The Larry Mac

    If I weren’t as queer as a football bat, I’d have a never-ending crush on Myrna Loy. Oh, and the whole her being dead thing would be a problem also.

    • Joe in PA

      up vote … Doritos baby! 🙂

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Is that higher or lower than gayer than a gym bag full of dildos?

      • The Larry Mac

        I’m not sure. Let’s get together and figure it out….

  • Grumpy old Man

    One of Hammett’s other characters is the ‘Continental op’ – his name never comes up – he is just a pro (“A monster. A nice one, an especially nice one to have around when
    you’re in trouble, but a monster just the same, without any human
    foolishness like love in him”).

    Then I slipped down the rabbit hole because my hero James Coburn played him in a 6 hour miniseries – they invented a name for him ” Hamilton Nash” – you can see Hammett’s name in that.

    Time for bed – crap it is almost 3!!!

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  • bdsmjack

    My husband learned how to call me indoors from The Thin Man: open the window and shake the Martini jigger. I come running every time.

    Happy Thanksgiving!

  • Mb

    In the early 80s I worked at a restaurant in Soho that was frequented constantly by celebs. My all time favorite was Lillian Hellman who ate quail and chain smoked Winstons.