Maddow Slams Trump’s Database Dodge [VIDEO]

Donald Trump continues to try to weasel out of his calls for a database for Muslim-Americans and Rachel Maddow isn’t having it. Raw Story recaps:

“Donald Trump is deep now into blaming the media for this whole scandal. Blaming the media for us reporting that he’s campaigning on the idea of watchlists and databases to register American Muslims,” she said. “And I know it’s fashionable and politically smart to blame the media, but this is important. And somebody’s gotta report this out. Somebody’s gotta do something other than standing there, agog, disbelieving that this is really the top tier of the Republican contest to try to be the next president of the United States of America.”

The real estate mogul said on Twitter that Yahoo News’ Hunter Walker introduced the notion of a Muslim database during their interview on Friday, while also endorsing the idea of a “watch list.” But Maddow noted that Trump has never said that he would refuse to implement such a policy if elected. As NBC reported last night, he said exactly the opposite and called it “good management.” That lack of a definitive stand has opened Trump up to criticism from not only Democrats, but fellow Republican candidates, as well as both Muslim and Jewish groups.

Last night Trump called into Fox News to whine that his words are being twisted.

  • Jim Detwiler

    If voters elect Trump president of the United States, he’ll be the last President of the United States.

    • David L. Caster

      You mean in the Reichstagsbrandverordnung sense I’m guessing.

      • Todd20036

        Just somewhat off topic, I always found the German language sounded so sexy.

        • David L. Caster

          You can make nouns that are pretty long.

    • Lantor

      The Most Tremendous Wonderful Amazing Simply Amazing Tremendous Mind-Blowing Supreme Leader

      • MBear

        he’s youuuuuuge

      • 2karmanot

        It’ll be HUGE!

    • Todd20036

      Don’t be stupid, be a smarty….

    • truthy

      Do not be stupid we survived Nixon Reagan and W

      • 2karmanot

        Duh…………….

      • Vista-Cruiser

        Not really. Think how much better off the US would be had Democrats won those elections.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Well, he’s be me MY last President! I’ll leave the country and not in an Alec Baldwin sort of way.

      • Marides48

        In that case, say “hi” to Ted Nugent for me.

        • Daveed_WOW

          I doubt that I’ll run into him in Canada.

          • Doug105

            Silly, after World War T-rump there will be no Canada.

  • bkmn

    So his GOP support numbers look like they are sticking where they are at, and leading all the other KKKlowns, but this kind of thing will hurt him in the general election matchup, no matter who the Democratic challenger is.

    • Mark

      I hope that is true but……

      • canoebum

        Yeah, if he actually wins the GOP nomination, there’s no telling what could happen. As repulsive and frightful as the thought is is, could actually be elected President. The man is a dangerous megalomaniac with no regard for law, the courts or the Constitution.

    • Librarykid

      The GOP establishment is working very hard to take him down. They are very afraid of what he will do to the ticket should be be at the top. They have feed and nurtured Audrey and watered her with tea and now she has become quite frightening.

  • BearEyes

    funny how you can twist verbatim.

  • Prion

  • Steven Leahy

    “Alarming”, Rachel? Stop injecting your opinion into reporting the news!

    Or does that only count if in a tweet?

    I think she should be fired for non-neutrality!

    • David L. Caster

      /s

      • Steven Leahy

        I was HOPING people would see that, but alas I am sure there will be some who won’t 🙁

        • David L. Caster

          You do have to admit the Poe is strong in this meme.

        • Reality.Bites

          Anyone who missed the story about the CNN reporter would not get it, but think of it this way – you’re playing Broadway, not Branson!

  • Prion

    ,,,

    • Gerry Fisher

      He has no filter. It just spews out.

      • DirtyPierre

        he doesn’t even make a good bottom feeder either.

        • Rosalyn Williams

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      • Soren456

        He filters it by thinking how much cheering it will provoke to boost his (fragile) ego.

        The cheers are all that matter. Thoughtful responsibility, not at all.

  • 2patricius2

    Not surprising. Trump will not rule out having a database of Muslims. But will not confirm whether he supports or opposes it. But then he has said a lot of things that seem crazy on the surface and still gets people jumping on his bandwagon in support. However, not a single vote has been cast. So we will see when people start caucusing and voting just how deep and wide his support is.

    • clay

      “It’s good management, to let your employees suggest and try a lot of things, and only take credit for the ones that work. After all, I’ve never gone bankrupt.”

  • Randy Left Brooklyn

    We already do have data bases on people who are suspected of being terrorists. That is how we know who to screen out of the country. We’ve all heard of the “no fly” lists. The alarming idea is that a group of people would be put in this database because of their religion, rather than because of specific terror related activities.

    The thing that Maddow and a variety of others have chosen to not hear is that Trump did not expressly call for putting all Islamic people on any such database. They want to project this onto him, when he really did the politicians dance of saying something that allowed a lot of people to hear what they wanted to hear.

    This whole controversy will not damage him one iota with his supporters, and the media noise will just make them circle the wagons. His opponents need to do something more specific, or they just look like they are lynching him to his supporters.

    • David L. Caster

      And that says a lot about those “supporters”.

    • clay

      We already have databases of refugees and asylees, as well.

      One of the things I find alarming is his ignorance of US immigration, the world’s second largest religious group, and good management.

      • Reality.Bites

        It may sound superficial, but really, anyone who thinks going around with hair like that really has no idea of what’s appropriate and what isn’t.

        • cheakamus

          Unfortunately, I think the hair (piece, if that’s what it is) has become his trademark. Imagine how strange it would be if he suddenly appeared with shaved head and stubble beard (like the rest of us “bald” guys).

          • Reality.Bites

            yes, you’re probably right. It should never have been allowed to become his trademark. It should never have happened.

      • Gerry Fisher

        Good management apparently is suggesting things that are already being done…only more so and with an eye toward increased fascism.

    • Gerry Fisher

      >We already do have databases on people who are suspected of being
      terrorists. That is how we know who to screen out of the country.
      We’ve all heard of the “no fly” lists.

      Here’s the scary thing: tRump says that we need to consider “things never done before” like this, and people…believe him!!! The stupid, it burns so very badly.

      >His opponents need to do something more specific, or they just look like they are lynching him to his supporters.

      If it’s just his hard-core supporters, then we’re fine. If Independents and Moderates buy-in, then we’re hosed.

      • another_steve

        “If Independents and Moderates buy-in, then we’re hosed.”

        If there’s a massive attack, or a series of smaller attacks like Paris, on U.S. soil, there’s no doubt in my mind that a majority of Americans — maybe a large majority — will buy into Trump’s rhetoric.

        The very very best thing that could happen for the Republicans would be lots and lots of terrorism fatalities here in the States. As close to the 2016 election as possible.

        And don’t think for a moment that behind closed doors, Republican strategists aren’t praying for it.

      • Randy Left Brooklyn

        Is it any surprise people think it is something new when the news media are acting like it is new? Then people think about it, realize what he did and didn’t say, and if they are favorably inclined to him, it looks like the media are out to get him

    • 2karmanot

      How about a First Lady Trump, who wears pasties?

      • Don’t you just hate it when you’re on an airplane stuck on the tarmac and they won’t turn the air conditioner on?

    • Mark_in_MN

      But wasn’t the idea a database of Muslims in the U.S.? Not just suspected terrorists. Not all immigrants and asylum seekers regardless of where they came from or what religion they hold. But all Muslims. That’s not something we already have.

  • Now Anon

    Maybe, just maybe, his presidential run will be like his business ventures. Lots of huff and puff and then, sadly, the bankruptcy and on he goes to something else.

    “I never really knew those Republican voters. We had a few talks. They were losers. We never really did any business together. Some said they were idiots. I don’t know who said that but some did. I know. I was there.”

    • David L. Caster

      Politically bankrupt.

      • Mark

        Morally and personally bankrupt as well.

        • David L. Caster

          Perhaps not personally but certainly intellectually bankrupt.

        • Librarykid

          Like the base to which he plays.

          • 2karmanot

            Make that a fiddle and I’m on board.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      yeah but this time (if it happens he becomes potus) the bankruptcy will be the entire USA. not just a couple of casinos

  • Michael Rush

    Trump is thinking in terms of winner and losers ,
    he can’t see himself as a loser even when it’s obvious .

    • David L. Caster

      Those without a nuanced appreciation of reality tend to have that kind of blind spot.

    • Librarykid

      Neither could Romney.

  • Jafafa Hots

    Comcast DRM doesn’t allow MSNBC playback anymore for embedded videos without their proprietary plugin, which they can be fucked if I’m going to install in my browser.
    I found a YouTube version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7uGTq9MuvA

    • Now Anon

      Neither does my current version of Firefox. I keep getting that little announcement…

      • 2karmanot

        same F’ Firefox!

        • Jafafa Hots

          Firefox is not the problem, Comcast, owner of MSNBC is.
          They are using DRM that tracks you. Firefox doesn’t automatically install that spyware because most firefox users are picky about such matters.
          Chrome includes the Comcast spyware by default, a handy service for Comcast. But Chrome is itself spyware, so people who use it aren’t the

          types who mind being profiled by every corporation on earth.

      • Jafafa Hots

        That’s what I mean. The DRM is Comcast’s (who is not my ISP) because Comcast owns MSNBC. They a huge on locking down content.

      • Librarykid

        I am getting VERY tired of Firefox.

  • anne marie in philly

    GO FOR THE JUGULAR, RACHEL!

  • Steven B

    This video doesn’t play on Firefox. 🙁 I have to switch to Internet Explorer.

    • johncAtl

      It worked it Firefox once I disabled Adblock Plus for the page.

      • Steven B

        It’s easier to just copy/paste to IE. But thanks.

      • Now Anon

        Soooo…. OK. That makes sense. Thanks!

  • Steven B

    If he requires something of a specific religion which is not required of another, then isn’t that discrimination? A violation of freed of religion?

    • Chucktech

      You can certainly call it that. I prefer the term “Unconstitutional.”

      • Unconstitutional for a variety of reasons, in fact…

    • Gerry Fisher

      But…but..that’s *good* discrimination, you see.

  • skeptical_inquirer

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/guns-terror-watch-list_564fec70e4b0258edb31b652

    “People on the U.S. government’s terrorist watch list often can’t board
    commercial airliners, but they can walk into a gun store and legally buy
    pistols and powerful military-style rifles.”

    I already find the argle-bargle about Syrian refugees to be incredibly offensive and more a threat to our way of life than letting women and children in. What pisses me off even more is that we not only lose thousands of people every year to gun violence but the NRA is the ultimate hypocrite in wanting to keep selling to people on the watch list while screaming about safety and security.

    If politicians really gave a shit about our safety, the NRA execs would be in a room being grilled, asked why the hell they’re OK with ISIS coming here and killing their fellow Americans using weapons that are easy to buy because they made it that way!

    • David Walker

      As we’ve seen infuriatingly way too often, the NRA can their way out of anything. Not necessarily with the citizenry, but with much of the honorable members of congress. “Best congress money can buy” indeed.

    • Cylux

      http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-westgate-interpol-chief-ponders-armed-citizenry/story?id=20637341

      Two year old article, but the gist is ISIS is only gonna be killing in yer gun free zones, if your objective is to shoot up the maximum amount of civvies, you go to the place where you know they ain’t gonna be shootin back.

      Same applies for mass shooters of any stripe. One sword keeps another in the sheath.

      • Grumpy old Man

        Hunh? When swords were king people died by the sword. Terrorists do not do that kind of math; they do not care other than there should be a bunch of people. “An armed society is a polite society” is one of the stupidest memes that manages to stick the brains of flabby thinkers.l

        • Cylux

          There’s a heck of a lot of difference between launching an armed assault on an armed populace, who can shoot you dead before your spree reaches double figures, and that of launching an armed assault on a defenceless populace who can only run away from you.

          It’s only foolishness and naivety that would make you believe that that consideration would not play a part in the planning of a terrorist attack. Secretly planted bombs would make more sense in an armed environment, than running about with an AK.

          • Grumpy old Man

            You are losing me a little bit here. I think it is foolishness to think that you know what goes on in the planning of a terrorist attack. Secretly planted bombs are a defense against armed terrorists? this seems a little bit over the top. I would like you to offer some support for your theory that that there is a lot of difference in launching armed assault on armed population – as far as I can tell there is no difference.

          • Cylux

            Never mind, I see the rot has set in and you can’t even read a comment properly.

            Seriously though how in the nine hells did you read what I wrote and manage to walk away with the impression that I was suggesting law enforcement use planted explosives, rather than that would be what the terrorists would be using against an armed populace?

          • Grumpy old Man

            That is just me taking the road less traveled – in the same way you use ad hominem attacks, just a distraction.

            Since there are actual societies that are armed to the teeth, why not use those societies to support your position.

  • Joe knows who I am.

    Suspiciously absent from this conversation; Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, Ben Carson, RNC.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Ted said, “Although I am a great admirer of Donald Trump, I am not in favor of data bases and IDs for Muslims.” Carson compared Syrian refugees to rabid dogs.

      • Todd20036

        So Cruz is the sane one. Who knew?

        • David Walker

          As republicans have redefined family, values, xnty, love, and equality, why not redefine sanity, too?

    • Reality.Bites

      In Huckabee’s case he may have just given up pretending anyone cares what he has to say.

  • truthy

    Sadly he is right and the left wing spin machine is wrong on this one – not a Trump fan but not a fan of obvious lies either.

    • Xuuths

      Please provide the link where tRUMP says he would not do this. Should be simple, right? (Him saying he didn’t start it, is not saying he wouldn’t do it. You can tell the difference, right?)

  • 2karmanot

    “Last night Trump called into Fox News to whine that his words are being twisted.” But, his words are twisted Blanch!

  • truthy

    Sad I can not respect the left wing media after this campaign season – repeating smear after smear when obviously not true (line Carson calling refugees rabid dogs) – ashamed as to what the internet has done to the left. Hate and lies is not a good look for Democrats

  • David Walker

    Many of you are too young, but some of us remember William F. Buckley’s sincere and humble suggestion that all HIV+ people should be tattooed, and the tattoo would be easily seen. He either pretended bafflement or cynically feigned disbelief when we objected…strenuously. The more things change…

    • Natty Enquirer

      Buckley was trying to sell not books, not become president. Trump has been playing a double-talk game to keep the whole range of conservative voters in his camp. But Trump lacks the concentrated wit of a Buckley that’s required to keep it up.

      • Rrhain

        Buckly may have been selling books, but it was because of people like Buckley that we in California had to vote twice (TWICE) regarding the mandatory reporting of HIV+ people with plenty of rhetoric regarding quarantining (which certain interpretations of the proposition would have required) and the demand that doctors report patients they simply *suspected* of being gay males. Props 64 and 69 and Lyndon LaRouche were very real.

    • Versailles

      I spent time on Friday watching two documentaries on Gore Vidal, the first, The United States of Amnesia, and the second, Best of Enemies. What struck me most was that both men would be dancing jigs in their graves at the current state of the world. Vidal for seeing his insight becoming ever truer, as he loved nothing more than being right. Buckley with evil delight.
      Vidal may have had a good many faults but his mind was terrifyingly spot-on.
      Jean-Marie Le Pen proposed the same tattoos and even camps here in France. His daughter’s current suggestions concerning the refugees and immigrants are equally nauseous.
      Plus ça change…

  • Natty Enquirer

    The Donald really stepped into it this time with his double-talk. Now he’s in the corner: disavow extreme anti-democratic measures and lose the far-right voters, or keep playing innocent and lose the middle.

  • Steven B

  • TampaDink

    I almost didn’t recognize Rachel. She never wears pastels!
    (She is my pretend girlfriend…but she doesn’t know.)

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  • Dan Robinson

    All he ever says is, “We gotta look at that” or some variation of that. Not a single genuine idea whether it be good or bad. Just deflection. Worthless piece of shit.

  • Esther Williams

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  • Rrhain

    I would love it if we could get rid of the phrase, “politically smart,” and replace it with the more accurate, “politically lazy.” I’d even accept, in this case, “politically correct,” because that’s precisely what it is: The taking of a position not because of any accuracy or even any connection to your actual beliefs but rather because it conforms with a position connected to your political party from which you cannot deviate and still remain in good standing.