KENTUCKY: Governor-Elect Matt Bevin Vows To Remove Names Of Clerks From Marriage Licenses

The Lexington Courier-Journal reports:

Matt Bevin promised Friday that soon after he becomes governor on Dec. 8, he will issue an executive order to remove the names of county clerks from marriage licenses – a step he said will protect county clerks from being jailed for their religious beliefs. “One thing I will take care of right away, we will remove the names of county clerks from the marriage forms. That is going to be done. The argument that that cannot be done is baloney,” Bevin said during his first news conference since his election victory on Tuesday. Also during the news conference Bevin repeated his pledge to dismantle kynect, the state’s health insurance exchange that has been hailed as a national model. He added that he will not be releasing his tax returns – even though he said during the campaign that he would do so if elected.

More from Reuters:

It was unclear what effect his order would have on the case of Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis, who was jailed for five days after refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, making Kentucky a focal point in the debate over gay marriage in the United States. Davis, 50, met with Bevin the day she was released from jail. Davis took steps to remove her name and office from the forms after she was released. She also had repeatedly urged current governor Steve Beshear, a Democrat, to remove clerk names from the form or provide another type of relief so she would not violate her Apostolic Christian beliefs. Beshear has said he had no authority to relieve county clerks of their statutory duties by executive order and the issue could be addressed by the state legislature, which reconvenes in January.

The Liberty Counsel celebrates:

“Kim Davis and Liberty Counsel applaud Governor Elect Matt Bevin for his leadership in protecting the rights of conscience of all County Clerks,” said Mat Staver, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel. “It is refreshing to have someone with the integrity, character, and concern of Matt Bevin leading the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Gov. Steve Beshear could have resolved this marriage license issue a long time ago, but he chose to ignore the plea for help. Gov. Elect Bevin’s impending executive order is a welcome relief for Kim Davis and should be for everyone who cherishes religious freedom,” said Staver.

  • What a petty bigoted homophobic SOB.

  • Joseph Miceli

    Sorry, Kentucky. All you Dems stayed home. This is what you got. I hope you all survive it.

    • DaddyRay

      With his promise to dismantle kynect and reject the medicaid expansion “survive” is the key word

      • Joseph Miceli

        Will his administration be judged by how many people he kills? If not, maybe it should be because these will be knowable figures.

        • skeptical_inquirer

          I wish that the people who actually like kynect would actually DO something.

          • Joseph Miceli

            They better get out the torches because they’re going to need them.

    • Phil B.

      My heart goes out to all the Dems who voted.As for the rest, you made your bed, now sleep in it.I’ll be watching the carnage from the safety of Washington state.

      • Joseph Miceli

        I feel for them too. This SOB is going to be an even worse disaster than that idiot Bobby Jindal was for my state of Louisiana!

        • Ontogenesis

          I escaped Louisiana to Washington state. There are a number of us here.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Brrrrr!!! Too cold! Good wine, though.

    • Reality Check

      Matt Bevin is on his way to becoming Kentucky’s Bobby JIndal…

    • Webslinger
    • Michael Rush

      The broken refrigerator on you front porch is NOT a voting booth .

  • bkmn

    How long before his first scandal?

    • oikos

      I’m thinking the same thing. That boy ain’t right.

      • Any chance of you posting the picture that your avatar comes from? My goodness that’s easy on the eyes.

        • Smokey
        • For a “different flavor,” a Catholic priest interested in Native Americans has a whole series of paintings he’s done–substituting Native images for the more conventional ones of Christianity. Just so–“Sun Dance Jesus” – While I’m not that attuned to the Christian theme, he’s come up with some very striking depictions of the Trinity, and Madona and Child.

    • However long it takes for his tax returns to be made public, obviously.

    • LonelyLiberal

      3…2…

    • DaddyRay

      There has to be a reason he is now refusing to release his Tax Returns after he had promised to do so.

  • Herald

    So he has already broken a campaign promise!
    Bevin is off to a great start – poor KY.

    • jayjonson

      Well, Kentuckians deserve it. They chose bigotry over their own best interests. Republicans have been exploiting racism and homophobia for years to get folks to vote against their own interests, so this is nothing new.

      • Herald

        That is true of all those who voted for Bevin or simply stayed home and never voted. It is still a tragic outcome for those who cannot vote, children for example.

  • LarryChemEngr

    I read this to mean that with the names removed, the asshole clerks will have no argument, and will then have to issue licenses to all. And, that these will be valid licenses. If so, problem solved, no?

    • Friday

      Well, it’s unlikely he’ll do it in a way that doesn’t harm LGBT people.

      • johncAtl

        His EO is the short-term solution. He’ll leave it to the legislature to introduce multiple bills in January to inflict real harm.

        • oikos

          Wait until he takes away their healthcare, then they’ll finally have buyers remorse.

          • Ninja0980

            Brownback basically destroyed the state yet all he had to do was shout Obama and the Republicans voted him back in.

      • Ed Burrow

        always the eye on the prize.

    • Dramphooey

      In a way isn’t it a tacit admission we won? If you’re against marriage equality how can you consider this a good thing? It’s a total retreat on their part.

    • Chucktech

      The asshole clerks have to issue marriage licenses to everyone now.

    • BlueberriesForMe

      I think we’ll have to see what happens. I wonder if any “news crews” still hang out at the Rowan County office, waiting to see if Kimmy D. goes on the rampage again.

    • BobSF_94117

      Davis doesn’t want licenses issued under her authority. Removing her name accomplishes nothing.

  • oikos

    It’s not whether their names are on the license or not, but whether licenses were being granted. Window dressing and pandering to the knuckledraggers that elected him.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/A_Guide_to_Window-Dressing_TitlePage_1883.JPG

    • ColdCountry

      I was wondering about that. If they still have to hand the licenses over the counter to a same sex couple – which they don’t want to do – how will anything change?

      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        Their minions can do that, so they don’t have to get dirty touching the icky gheys.

        http://www.gardnersbakery.co.uk/images/Gradminion%20(573×640).jpg

        • ColdCountry

          But if the minions don’t want to either, we’re back to square one. The guy’s a jerk.

          • oikos

            Then they can go directly to jail.

          • ColdCountry

            Sure, but we’re still back to square one. Do these people ever look at the big picture?

          • oikos

            No. No they don’t and probably are incapable of looking at the big picture.

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            Agreed… it remains to be seen if all the minions in a given county clerk’s office will refuse licenses.

    • Chris Baker

      I just hope this gets Davis out of the news, and gay couples everywhere access to licenses.

  • BearEyes

    I thought changes like that needed to go through the legislature?

    • LonelyLiberal

      I think–don’t quote me–that the Legislature is in session in January as well.

      • Chucktech

        And since they’re of similar minds, they’ll most likely go along.

    • Ed Burrow

      normally, yes. but this is a jesus matter, so all the rules are different. hell, they aren’t even written yet….just make up as you go.

      • johncAtl

        Damn Ed, you could pass the Liberty University law exam.

        • Ed Burrow

          and to think, all i did was pray.

          • bkmn

            I thought they preyed, not prayed.

          • Ed Burrow

            holy fuck!! you mean i’ve been doing it wrong all these years?!?

    • Phil B.

      Like most of these Teabaggers, they think winning an election makes them King or something, and immune from the rule of law.

  • LonelyLiberal

    As long as it’s legal, I fail to see the problem here. Clerks can no longer refuse to issue licenses because they’re not identified with them in any way. Kim has to do her fuckin’ job.

    Couples get licenses.

    Really, this is a “backfire win” for the nut cases. Reasons for objections are gone.

    • DaddyRay

      They will find another reason to object

      • LonelyLiberal

        Certainly, but the courts are going to be even less forgiving with a reason that’s another step out.

      • stuckinthewoods

        Although clerks then would not be identified by name, they could say their religious beliefs are jeopardized since Jesus would still know who processed the license. He sees you when you’re sleeping, he knows when you’re awake, he knows when you’ve been bad or good….

        • Bluto

          So remain a bigoted asshole for goodness sake.

    • stuckinthewoods

      I’m not seeing how their individual argument changes. Although clerks would no longer be publicly identified she could still say she’d been compelled to violate her private personal belief.

  • Chucktech

    “Also during the news conference Bevin repeated his pledge to dismantle kynect, the state’s health insurance exchange that has been hailed as a national model.”

    Good. I hope you do just that. Maybe THAT will wake up all those fat, lazy, stoopid fuckers who didn’t bother to get off their fat asses and vote.

    • TrueBlueTx

      I was thinking the same thing. Let’s see how they feel when 100’s of thousands of people lose their insurance.

      • johncAtl

        And the taxpayers of KY lose when those people start clogging emergency rooms with minor illnesses.

        • usorthem3

          Thank the GOP for that.

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          • SelectFromWhere

            No, they will, of course, blame Obama

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      • Ninja0980

        He’ll just blame Obama and they’ll be stupid enough to believe him.

        • Strepsi

          Mm-hmm.

      • You must not know any Teavangelicals. Lucky you! They will still blame Obama. I’m sure there are plenty who love the KY exchanges and want “Obamacare” repealed not realizing this is part of it. Or who got medicaid through the expansion who don’t think that’s a government program. Yes, people actually are that stupid and Democrats still haven’t figured out how to talk to them and instead keep assuming people know that the GOP lies are lies. They don’t.

        • TrueBlueTx

          Well of course, everything is Obamas fault. Death of a cop…Obama. Mass shooting at a school….Obama. Illegal rapes someone…. Obama. Christian gets sued….Obama. People suffering from no insurance… Obama.

          • Traxley Launderette

            Slowly but steadily recovering economy… JEEBUS

        • lymis

          Every poll I’ve seen shows that, taken individually, every single feature of Obamacare is wildly popular, including among the people who are most adamantly opposed to Obamacare.

          • Yes, and that’s two-part problem: 1) people are stupid and 2) Democrats are terrible at messaging.

          • DesertSun59

            Yep. Both. And #2 is due to THEM being too stupid to know how to message.

          • AJD

            I would add a #3: A lot of white people, especially in places like Kentucky, are latently if not blatantly racist and hate anything with a black president’s name attached to it. It’s been clear from the start that the Tea Party, at its heart, is fundamentally about white people scared that they’re losing “their country.” If anything, Donald Trump’s candidacy has made that all the more apparent.

          • Traxley Launderette

            In my opinion, your #3 is my #1.

          • sach2

            Obama is the most disrespected President that I have ever seen. He hadn’t even taken office before the MSM started talking about the next election.

            Every President gets his first 100 days pretty much hands off. Not Obama. They were on him from the first day. Disgusting racism. Not just political party but pure racism or racism was used as an excuse and allowed. Disgusting! Never have a seen a President so disrespected.

          • Mihangel apYrs

            on the other hand, he did accept the Nobel Prize effectively for being elected, rather than for any positive achievement – a bit declasse.

    • LonelyLiberal

      Are they that good at seeing consequences of events?

      • Joe in PA

        That’s a rhetorical question, right? All it will take is Fox News telling them something else. Pathetic.

        • LonelyLiberal

          If you read that with a deeply derogatory note in your voice and hipster levels of irony, you’ve pretty much read it the way I wrote it.

          • Joe in PA

            thanks, that helps. 🙂 Sometimes it takes a plank to the side of my head. 🙂

            But trying to master anything ‘hipster might be a bit of a challenge for me. 🙂

          • LonelyLiberal

            Written and spoken language are so different in terms of communicated tone. It’s hard to figure out what the other person meant most of the time!

        • Traxley Launderette

          Such as… BENGHAZI???

    • JT

      Don’t forget the dumbasses who voted for him because they’re too stupid to realize they have a good system they benefit from.

    • GayOldLady

      The biggest tragedy will happen to all of the people who’ve been added to the Medicaid rolls under the AFA broadened income parameters. When the bonanza of dollars sent to the State from the Federal government for Medicaid patients suddenly goes away, so will the medicaid coverage of thousands of people. This Governor may learn the hard way that it’s much easier to give people something than to take it away, and that’s exactly what he is getting ready to do.

      The Democrats need to jump on this in the General Election to illustrate how high handed, merciless and ruthless the GOP is. It might even be the beginning of turning KY back to Blue.

    • Chris Baker

      Except I heard it won’t happen until -after- the next presidential election.

    • DesertSun59

      Nope. Nothing will stop Republicans from voting against their own interests. Even when it hits them where it counts. They are literally too stupid to know what he’s said IN PUBLIC that he intends to harm them directly.

    • agcons

      They’ll blame either Obama or Clinton for their problems. Same as it ever was.

    • Ontogenesis

      No, they are too willfully ignorant to understand cause and effect. Bevin can tell them “you don’t have coverage because of teh gayz” or “Obama,” and these idiots will eat it up because it feeds into their prejudice.

    • fuzzybits

      Here’s everything he does is a major clusterfuck. Don’t have to dig deep to know this is butthurt of a lot of these yahoos who hate who’s in the White House.

      • fuzzybits

        Hoping everything.

  • TrueBlueTx

    So he will remove county clerk names?? Who cares. As long as they are issuing valid licenses what does it matter? I would rather not have some intolerant bigots name on my license anyway.

    • SFBruce

      As long as any same sex couple who wants a marriage license receives one with the same ease opposite sex couples do, I’m pretty much OK with this, but I’ll be pleasantly surprised if that’s the case.

  • geru

    So, this is now a thing? Religious exemptions that allow employees to do their jobs half-assed, as if they’re kind of not doing them at the same time?

    “I am now going to look away, and put this application on the counter. If you choose to take and fill it, I will not actively prevent you, but if asked, I will deny giving you the permission to do so.”

  • Dramphooey

    TEA party politicians must be kept out of office at all cost. This stupidity about removing clerk’s names; what the hell is the point of a clerk? And dismantling a health care exchange considered a national model? Kentucky, you’re about to be fried like chicken.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    Another brownback is born. This time to take kentucky back to 1859……
    How long before the feds have to sue the state for coal deregulation? How long before already widdled down abortion rights are even more smothered? How long before that religious liberty bill is pushed through?
    Nothing to do with helping anyone but himself and his donors.
    This country will finally start changing when my parents are too old to ambulate to a voting booth

    • johncAtl

      In some parts of Kentucky he would be moving them forward to 1859.

    • NancyP

      I suspect that the feds are already gearing up to go after the states that refuse to abide by the recently passed energy bill.

  • Ginger Snap

    Liberty counsil says it’s great religious freedom won’t be imposed upon but those poor heathens that need heath care can die we don’t give a fuck about them. Christian love and caring.

    • Chucktech

      Especially when it costs the state NOTHING. All it does is provide healthcare to the needy, while making Obama look good. Oooo, can’t have that…

      • lymis

        And it only makes Obama look good because the assholes who opposed it thought they could repeal it by calling it Obamacare.

        If they’d left it as the Affordable Care Act in popular usage, they could do their usual spin and claim responsibility for it now that they know how popular it is.

        • Chucktech

          Oh, absolutely. Especially when Obama himself said, “Sure, call it Obamacare. It’s mine, I’ll own it.”

    • Michael Senesac

      Pro-life my ass.

      • Robincho

        Only pro-life until you’re born. After that, you crawl on your belly, dodging their hostile gunfire, until you drop, exhausted, into your grave…

  • SFBruce

    This sucks, but it’s no surprise. Sadly this is exactly what Kentucky voters elected him to do.

  • Chucktech

    “It was unclear what effect his order would have on the case of Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis, who was jailed for five days after refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples…”

    Why the fuck is it “unclear”? Kim Davis broke the law, went to jail, STILL broke the law, and should go back to jail. If the legislature changes the law now, it’s not retroactive, she still broke the law.

  • delk

    Oh thank god he has his priorities straight! Hard to dismantle Kynect when such rampant persecution is destroying the state.

  • Sam_Handwich

    I wish the KY courts would articulate what is essential on these documents.

    Is it solely the signature of ANY notary public? Can you take the form out of the clerk’s office, have it notarized, then return it? Or does it have to be signed by a country clerk or deputy, who i guess are notaries by virtue of their office?

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Just issue them from vending machines, already.

      Next step: property deeds for people from the wrong religion.

    • BobSF_94117

      I’m looking forward to America’s first legal man/dog and man/Buick marriages, all enabled by the religious fundamentalists of KY.

  • TheSpinMonkey

    smh what a hot mess!!

  • Mark

    Maybe this is what it’s going to take to get complacent moderate and liberal voters to wake the hell up. Every freaking vote counts!!!

    • NancyP

      There aren’t all that many moderate and liberal voters in KY. And KY is a remarkably White southern state at 91% white, 7.7% black, remainder “other”.

      • Mark

        Perhaps I should have been more definitive in my statement. For the entire country and perhaps, just perhaps, there are those in KY who may wake up, at some point, and realise the mess they’ve created for themselves. Not likely, but at least in other parts of the country seeing this insanity may wake up more of the lazy voters.

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    This whole license thing was one huge distraction, so that he could be elected and gut affordable health care.

    • GayOldLady

      The last few weeks of the election was a plea to TEAvangelicals to support Kim Davis by getting out and voting for Bevin. She was a pawn to pull in the redneck vote. Many, if not most of them, are single issue voters. Anti-gay and/or anti-choice to the point where they will vote against their own best interests to stop you and me from exercising our rights as citizens. But in the end they lose because WE can get married and women still have dominion over our own bodies . The only people who will be hurt by Bevin are low income people who do not qualify for medicaid, but aren’t capable of buying health insurance without financial assistance. Congrats KY, you proved you can “F” yourself.

  • The Professor

    Fine. They will still be issued, and that is all that matters. He ain’t stopping that.

  • TrueBlueTx

    Yes, let’s dismantle a well known model of how health exchanges should be done. Other states are considering implementing the exact same model because it works extremely well. But, nope, let’s remove it out of spite because… Obama. Good luck KY, you made your bed, now lie in it, sick with no health care insurance.

    • ColdCountry

      Ya gotta remember that there were a bunch of people who did not vote for that clown who will suffer as well.

  • Webslinger

    Elections, of course, have consequences. In the case of Kentucky, Republican Governor-elect Matt Bevin has threatened to dismantle Kynect (the Kentucky version of the Affordable Care Act) and to create a Right to Work state.

    https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/uwwjf-aust-79.jpg

    • oikos

      That’s BP’s graphic. 😉

      • johncAtl

        He’s now reviewing all the screen captures of comments you’ve made about him in the past. And then he’ll be here to call you a pig and an Obot.

        • oikos

          I would expect no less of his small mind. :))

  • Webslinger

    Just so we understand what stands to be lost as a result of this election, Kentucky led the nation in the largest drop in the percentage of residents without health insurance from 2013 to 2014.

    The percentage of uninsured Kentuckians dropped to 8.5 percent in 2014 from 14.3 percent in 2013. The drop of 5.8 percentage points was double the national decrease of 2.9 percent. The report says 366,000 Kentuckians were uninsured in 2014, down 250,000 from 616,000 in 2013.

    https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/ky-aca.jpg

    • Paula

      Damn! That is a big difference. I don’t understand why he wants to do away with the program. Is he that hateful of a person?

      • Yes. Oh, wait, that was rhetorical, wasn’t it?

        • Paula

          Not really. How can he take something that appears to be working so remarkably well and dismantle it? This is just because he hates Obama so much?

          • ColdCountry

            Yes.

          • Oh, you’re serious. Okay. The problem is that your question implies that the new governor and people like him care about the 400,000 or so people who will lose their health insurance. They obviously don’t.

          • Librarykid

            The Republicans want to abolish the Affordable Care Act because it limits the profits of insurance companies by demanding that a larger percentage of the money they take in go to patient care and less to overhead and obscene profits. That cuts the dividends paid to share holders who are largely the very wealthy. The battle against Obama care is strictly profit-motivated. All of the other BS is invented and distributed by the spin doctors paid by the wealthy to stir up the white trash rabble and there is more spinning than in any laundromat..

          • Ontogenesis

            Ask yourself why the Koch brothers would get involved in an initiative in Mississippi that was intended to increase public school funding (this is a state where there are literally not even enough desks for every child in every classroom). The Koch brothers poured in money to help DEFEAT the public school funding. There is an agenda to keep America poor, sick, and stupid. Who benefits?

      • usorthem3

        Christians are the most hate filled people on Earth as their “god” commands death to all that do not fall down and worship him, 2nd chronicles 15 13

      • NancyP

        Yes. He hates poor people. As do all Teabagging Republican politicians. These politicians are just as bought as the non-Teabagging standard-issue Republican politicians, and by the same hedge fund traders, energy barons, bankers, and other 0.1%ers of our New Gilded Age. And yes, the poor whites hate blacks enough that the poor whites will vote against anything bearing Obama’s name.

      • skeptical_inquirer

        I think it shows that the voters of Kentucky hate themselves.

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        Is he a hateful person? Well, he’s a Republican so that right there should answer your question.

  • sw42

    She wasn’t jailed for her religious beliefs. She was jailed because her job means serving all the citizens according to the law and she wouldn’t do it. I don’t know why I’m even saying it – the truth is never quite the good copy as the propaganda.

  • Kevin Perez

    I know I’m supposed to feel bad for the fly-over states but really, they choose this, they deserve this.

  • DutchBoy74
    • Zoey

      Hey that’s good. Basically, if you’re under 50 and democrat in KY you just didn’t vote. 8% turnout at best. 50-60 dems are 13% while repubs are hitting the polls at 22%.

      However, the majority that voted was over 62 and Republican @ 35%. In KY they’re the only ones that count. Of course they’ve got their medicaid so why should they give a flying fuck about anyone else.

    • noni

      Thanks for sharing.

      That is pathetic.

      The Democratic Party Leadership certainly sucks.

      Clearly no effort made to win in Kentucky.

      • TrollopeReader

        It’s the Chad Griffin / Debbie Wasserman-whatever syndrome. If it’s not DC / NYC / LA it does’t come on the radar.

  • Christophe

    Neither Bevin nor Kim, or Pat or Franklin or Scott or Brian or Tony or Ted or Mike or Jerry or Anita or Antonin or Francis, or anyone else in the “we-hate-everyone-equally” set, will ever stop anyone from getting married. That’s just how things are. Civil marriage for all; get the hell over it – or just remain an asshole and quite easy to identify and Avoid. So simple.

  • j.martindale

    That is fine with me. Who cares if the clerks sign marriage certificates? They will be legal. I never needed the hassle of worrying about some bureaucrat’s bigotry when arranging my wedding, anyway. Frankly, it isn’t a bad idea, for once.

  • shellback

    xtians do not need health insurance – they have prayer.

  • lukefromcanada

    oh this will be good, how long before he completely implodes???

    • Lumpy Gaga

      The day his coke dealer fails to show.

  • anne marie in philly

    I smell so much bullshit here!

  • Blake Jordan

    Kentucky citizens are in for a whole lot of shit, and the only ones that do not deserve it are the very few who voted democrat.
    Rethuglican voters and non-voters deserve to suffer as much as possible!!!!!

  • Ninja0980

    I have to think maybe the Democrats shouldn’t have fielded a candidate who did win AG but lost two other state wide races for House and Senate.

  • canoebum

    I’m boycotting bourbon, nothing but Drambuie for me.

  • Blake Jordan

    I would not want a bigots name permanently on my marriage license anyway!!!

  • Ninja0980

    As long as the licenses issued are valid, who gives a damn about whether the name is on it or not?
    If anything, it would make the case for a lawsuit even stronger if Kim refuses to allow licenses to be issued again.

  • LovesIrony

    Damn, no more Kentucky bourbon for me.

  • As fucked up as this is, I find it acceptable so long as it means the marriage licenses are being issued and are legally recognized by the state. Given how extremist he is I wouldn’t be surprised he he just refused to issue the licenses or recognize gay marriages statewide (as Huckabee has vowed to do if elected).

    • Ninja0980

      Be nice to see him in jail right off the bat.

  • Ninja0980

    All politics are local and Kentucky voters care more about coal and hating Obama then health care.

    • TrollopeReader

      And as even coal executives have acknowledged, Coal is no long King.

  • DaddyRay

    The only positive out of this may be that Kim Davis fades away into obscurity

  • Blake Lawrence

    I like that so much of the concern voiced here is regarding kycare. I’m not being cynical, I really do like that. Thanks to SCOTUS we won the other battle that this guy and his ilk still try to resurrect. Good luck with that. I like that my gay brothers and sisters are concerned for health care for all people, even in states that appear to dislike us. It’s a good look. And it’s sad that this guy got elected, but I’d be even more sad if I lived in or had to do business with Kentucky. I’m going to be sure to steer clear, and I hope others will too. Kentucky will eventually feel the economic impact of electing this guy, which will speak louder than any words we type. Unfortunately it will take time. Sidebar: excuse me for noticing (or stereotyping, jeebus forbid), but does this guy look like a closet case or what? What’s that about? What’s with closeted gays seeking public office and hammering down GLBT issues? Not just this guy (maybe) but documented other cases…that’s a whole ‘nother can o worms. Back to Kentucky, I’m sorry for your loss.

    • LovesIrony

      Kansas re-elected brownback, Louisiana re-elected jindal,

      • I would REALLY like to have an independent group (Canada?) go through and exam all the diebold code in the voting machines (Can’t, it’s top secret) and see just how many ways the vote can be changed on the fly with no traces left in the outputs.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t give a shit what, if any, official’s name is on the marriage license, just that they provide the legal marriage licenses.

  • jakeinlove

    Well I’m glad he he’s the States priority in order.

  • infmom

    I wonder how many of the people who voted for this clown will lose their health insurance next year. I hope the Democrats make sure they know that they got what they voted for.

    • skeptical_inquirer

      It’s sad that people will vote away their own benefits or are too damn lazy to vote FOR their own benefit. I am so damn sick of assholes who sniff at the act of voting then go “Uh, duhhhh, what happen to what I used to get?”

  • Curieux Bleu

    Bevin does not have the power to nullify the marriage rights deemed constitutional and confirmed by SCOTUS, and Kentucky willhave its feet held to the fire, by the federal courts and by SCOTUS itself to follow the law of the land. Of course if the US Senate fails to ratify Obamas judicial appointments things could change around the country.

    THE HUGE LOSS for civilisation in KY will be the destruction of KYNECT, the health care exchange. People will die from lack of care, including some LGBT folk both single and married.

    Contrast the Great White North where we have electorally freed ourselves from the fascist inclined HARPER control freak PM we had with a 68% turnout of citizens across the land. Now many of his draconian limitations on freedom and progressive are going to be reversed, … but meanwhile he did great damage to our society in Canada, based largely on American ideological Ayn Randian bullshit.

    Bevin’s monstrous attack on Kynect will devastate hundreds of thousands of those very ordinary and unfortunately poorly schooled and poorly educated people, many thousands of whom likely voted for him in their ignorant gullibility.

    He got into office with a “majority” of 53%” based upon only about 30% of the eligible electorate turning out; Therefore 15% of the population have conferred power on a cruel and extreme teabagger multimillionaire who will control the destiny of everyone, inflicting his indifference pain and suffering on legions of KY citizens at the lower margins of socioeconomic subsistence. These legislators and governors such as Bevin are not “Christians” at all … they are foot soldiers of the ANTICHRIST. And I am sure that they are cynically very self aware under the layer upon layer of hypocrisy and sociopathy.

    Weep for the American Imperial Oligarchy that is deforming and destroying all the ideals of your former “Republic”. It happened to Rome 2000 years ago, and the rot is well advanced in America of 2015.

    We, in Canada, for years have watched your Congress and your Red States in morbid horror, the back stabbing rage against your very decent President, and all things decent and progressive being shot down by your political thug class.

    Probably explains a lot as to why we came out in a fairly determined national wave to defeat our PM and elect Justin Trudeau “Because its 2015”.

    68% turnout is nothing to brag about either, but Canadians are about 70% progressive, and Americans seem to be about 51% progressive, which puts your nation in a very difficult situation.

    And we remain terrified about what is happening in this titanic confrontation against the ascendant evil forces that are seizing and destroying civilisation in your very powerful “republic.” Because we are 10% of your population and you are immediately adjacent and have a profound impact upon our society. We want to see true “civilisation” flourish in the USA, and it is not at all certain that that will be your outcome. With Citizens United and the Spin Media in virtual control you cannot in any true sense consider yourselves to be a real democracy.

    (Likewise in Canada we have this cursed “first past the post” electoral system, which is not suited to produce a true modern “voice of all the people” democracy. We are just hanging on up here, aiming for what is called a benevolent and civilised governance, and it is really really tough.)

    • noni

      A campaign needs to be waged linking Kim Davis to the removal of healthcare. The Republicans wouldn’t hesitate at all to connect the vile evil “gays” to anything they deemed to be vile and evil, no matter how far fetched and untrue.

  • lattebud

    So, he removes the Clerks names from the form. Who is going to sign the form stating the couple has passed the legal test to get married? Will the have a designated person in each office to that does the “icky” marriage licenses? Or will entire counties be same sex marriage free?

    • johncAtl

      The legislature can deal with that. The actual document could be like a driver’s license where the governor’s signature is pre-printed. Or it could be an embossed seal like I have on a copy of my birth certificate.

      • Rusty Reiter

        Are you claiming Bevin is going to put his name on the licenses for the same-sex couples? lol that’s a good one

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    Kentucky:

    Welcome to careful-what-you-wish-for-ville. Since you chose to elect a governor based on bigotry and not on his economic policies, hope you enjoy the ride.

    Sincerely,
    The real world.

  • abqdan

    My reaction – meh. Who cares what is on the license, as long as the state is required to issue them equally to all citizens? I sure don’t. If this make the religious fanatics feel better I don’t care. It’s not going to affect our rights.

    • noni

      I generally agree, although I don’t like seeing pandering to the right wing and their antics.

  • Bj Lincoln

    What is the point of taking away the states healthcare?! So now families will go back to suffering when they don’t have to? How many people , INCLUDING KIDS, will die because they couldn’t afford to see a doctor?!!! The ER is NOT a doctor’s office.
    I hope this ass hole gets some slow and painful disease that can’t be cured and he wastes all his money looking for one.

    • johncAtl

      Because Obama.

      • Bj Lincoln

        True, but a sucky reason to kill people.

    • I bet he is going to roll back the needle exchange and the use of methadone, yet again.

  • Sean

    This will wind up in court draining the state of even more tax revenue. CONservatives love to waste money at other peoples expense,

  • Richard

    “No
    one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
    – H.L. Mencken For the 400K+ Kentuckians that are about to lose their health insurance, voting matters. So if you stayed home and didn’t vote for the Democrat shame on you, you have no one else to blame when you are waiting in line in the overcrowded emergency room.

    • TrollopeReader

      Remember the story on 60Minutes a few years ago where the mobile clinic went to various poor towns in Appalachia? Folks lined up by the thousands, to get a tooth (or more) pulled, eye-glasses made, and everything in between. Sad, and about to happen again.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    In other words: ‘I intend to be as spiteful and vindictive as possible, knowing full well that my actions will lead to protracted legal challenges; which, in turn, will lead to the state having to pay all fees, costs, etc.; thus proving that I, a republican, am useless at being responsible with taxpayers money’

  • Jmdintpa

    one thing i think we forget is no matter how bad these people need health care there not voting democrat for any reason. if they do its voting for the n*ggers, the [email protected], the sp*ks etc etc etc. so they will suffer the the consequences of no health care and anything else because in their mind nothing could ever be so bad as to have a black man as president. it absolutely over rides any commons sense they have.

    • noni

      in KY common sense = hate, first and foremost.

  • zhera

    And not a single teabagger will demand that his tax returns are made public. Because Jeeziz and NoBama.

    I wonder what he’s hiding in those tax returns.

    • thevofl

      Don’t forget Benghazi.

      • TrollopeReader

        don’t forget the !!!

        • thevofl

          You are fucking awesome. !!!!!

  • Baron Ochs

    I expect big things for Ms. Davis in this new Kentucky regime.

  • Steven Leahy

    What a vile idiot…but then credit for that goes to the dupes and drones who inhabit that state who put him in office. Another example of poor whites ignorantly n pathetically voting against their own interests because of some manufactured non-issue the elite invented to corral and control them.

    On another note: I don’t personally care if the license has some hillbilly’s name on it or not. As long as it’s issued impartially to ALL couples and it’s fully legal, and the rules and clears’ office obligations apply equally to heater and homo couples, who gives a rat’s ass.

    • Robert Conner

      The history of the South is basically Pickett’s Charge replayed over and over and over again.

      • Into razor wire and an electrified fence.

    • TrollopeReader

      poll after poll showed Kentuckians like alot KYCare, somewhat like the ACA and hate Obamacare. And don’t realize they are all the same thing.

  • TexasBoy

    If you’re removing the names of who ever authorized the wedding license, why not just put a wedding license vending machine down at the local WalMart?

    • zhera

      Marriage and a Movie, is that the sequal to Netflix and chill?

  • Rusty Reiter

    Kentucky got revenge on LGBT people without even caring they are going to cause large numbers of Kentuckians to lose their health care, get sick and even die.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    I wish this new governor’s actions would only hurt those who voted for him, but unfortunately that is not the case.

    • noni

      including those who didn’t bother voting at all.

      • TrollopeReader

        which, since only 30% or so voted, about 84% of the voters either didn’t vote for him, or didn’t vote at all.

  • kiltedyak

    Wait…wait, how will Kim stay relevant. If you think that she wants that relief because, Jesus, you are so gullible. She better hurry and milk her 15 minutes of fame.

    • thevofl

      Seriously! Won’t this kill her gofundme-esque fundraising chances? Oh wait, never mind, she’ll have a book come out—no less second only to the Bible for its divine inspiration.

  • nycmcmike

    Good, let him take away their healthcare. It’s one way to clean out the gene pool.

  • david fairfield

    Drop dead, Bevin.

  • noni

    Who cares if a clerk’s name is on a marriage license? I don’t see that his plan to remove clerk’s name from a marriage license is going to cause any problem.

    If it’s deemed somehow against KY law and make the marriage licenses void, then it would make all marriage licenses void.

    • skrekk

      What legal mechanism in KY law allows a governor to void a section of KY statutes through executive order?

      • Why are our citizens rushing to vote in folks who refuse to follow the constitution?

        • billbear1961

          Because many of our citizens are two-faced fascist shits, biki!

          • sad isn’t it? its such an elegant contract between government and man, and to have these skidmarks treat it as only an speed bump on their way to being dictator for life makes me angry!

  • Paul

    When they say that gay and transgender people want special rights, hit them back with this. It’s the religious right Christians that want the special rights.

    • thevofl

      The sad thing is that their “rights” are “justified” by the Constitution. (I put quotes around those words because, their perceived rights are quite different than their justified ones.)

  • Robert Conner

    This should be fun. Not for Kentuckians, who deserve that they get in my opinion, but still fun.

  • In effect: “We got the clerk’s names removed, so WE WIN! naa na naa na naaa naaa!”

    Meanwhile gay couples continue to marry in Kentucky.

    • billbear1961

      Precisely!

  • BobSF_94117

    Rewriting the state code by executive order.

    Why wait when you’ve been elected dictator?

  • DesertSun59

    “He added that he will not be releasing his tax returns – even though he said during the campaign that he would do so if elected.”

    No surprises. He’s a criminal and doesn’t want you to know this. But his sociopathic behavior is quite evident ALREADY.

  • Why would anyone vote to dismantle health care? I’m not a vengeful person, but I hope that everyone that voted for this waste of resources needs a program in the future that Bevins dismantled.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Why? Because American voters are morons. That’s why.

  • billbear1961

    You will provide LEGAL licenses to ALL couples who meet all LEGAL requirements for one; and M.E., the Law of the LAND everywhere in this country, will CONTINUE in the ugly, ignorant, backwards fascist HATE STATE known as Kentucky.

    Do ANYTHING which is not legal, and you’ll find yourself, sooner or later, in federal COURT.

    EDIT: HOUND the crooked LIAR until he keeps what passes for his word and releases his tax returns!!

  • John Calendo

    Liberty Counsel lost the war — the marriage battle — but they are celebrating this small, merely symbolic concession from the new governor-elect. This is what’s called “winning the consolation prize.” Also known as “the booby prize.”

  • John Calendo

    In a democracy, people get the government they deserve. 30 percent of Kentucky went out to vote last Tuesday, and a decisive majority voted for this guy. The other 70 percent didn’t think the election was all that important. They are about to learn a hard lesson.

  • StraightGrandmother

    He is going to dismantle the insurance exchange?
    Why? This is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face.
    It’s playing with the health of his State citizens, for what? Red meat, I’ll show Obama, I’ll spit on Obamacare in my State.
    I can’t write anymore, I’m so discouraged.

    • Franciscan

      He’s following the successful example of Brownback in Kansas. Making life for your citizens worse to uphold an ideology.

  • Doesn’t Kentucky have a 5150 order?

  • pebouky

    It’s the Lexington herald leader, not the courier journal. That’s the Louisville paper

  • Joe.Has.The.Sadz

    Poor Joe…poor sad, Joe.

    • KnownDonorDad

      What’s that you say, Mr. Ruse? I can’t hear you over the merriment and good cheer of same-sex weddings taking place in Kentucky and all over the United States.

      • Cannot stop laughing. Gays are not getting married in droves. Gays hate marriage, always did. And now, government officials are allowed to exercise their religious freedom to say no to this governmentally imposed abomination. Joe got the sadz.

        • KnownDonorDad

          You can’t stop laughing? You ought to read it and weep.

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/04/28/heres-how-many-gay-marriages-the-supreme-court-could-make-way-for/

          And out of all the county clerks and magistrates, all you could dredge up who refused to do their job and expect to keep it are Kim Davis and maybe a handful of others? No wonder you folks have irrevocably lost this battle in the culture war. But please, carry on. You’re amusing.

          • If gays win then why are you so angry? And we’re not? Could it be we know truths you do not; Like where the penis goes?

          • KnownDonorDad

            I’m not angry at all, “Austin Ruse,” I’m quite happy for my gay and lesbian friends who can get married in all 50 states, and I’m awash in Schadenfruede at the massive defeat of the anti-gay side. It’s about the best political entertainment out there. All that time and money wasted, such a shame for you losers.

          • Except they’re not! And they won’t. Mutual masturbation, i.e. gay “sex”, only gets you so far. Mostly it’s BOORRRRRING.

          • OZ_in_TX

            Uh… how would you know?

          • Right. Masturbation. “Sex” to last a lifetime. Ahuh. Boring.

          • KnownDonorDad

            So you’re just completely denying reality. I don’t blame you, really; losing decisively and permanently on such a major issue can send someone around the bend. Even the real Austin Ruse can’t do a thing about it. It’s a beautiful thing.

          • Hah!

          • Not angry. Stocking up on popcorn. This is going to be a hoot.

          • Angry. That’s the thing about the left. Always angry.

          • You on the autism spectrum? You have a reading issue? What?

          • Always angry. Always calling names. Conservatives are happy. Do the math, bub.

          • You cannot get the tone of my post. So answer my question. Reading issues or autism. Could be narcissism maybe.

          • Oh but I can. I can.

          • BLEEDING T.Rumpet

            Seems you claim to know, but get less use, than anyone else.

            Guess, the obvious irony escapes you whiners.

          • Not whining. Laughing.

          • BLEEDING T.Rumpet

            You seem pretty short of “verbiage”… IMO.

            Also pretty pedestrian.

          • Yep.

        • BLEEDING T.Rumpet

          I’d ask for any facts… but presenting none say it all.

          • Say it all. It do

          • BLEEDING T.Rumpet

            I figured you’re bitter & childish, but it’s nice to have confirmation.

            Getting it in heaven, right?

          • Lol

          • BLEEDING T.Rumpet

            Cannot stop laughing.

            Yeah, ya did.

            HAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH !

          • Belly laugh followed by horse laugh. Why? Gays are not getting married. They can, sort of, not really. But they’re not. In droves.

          • BLEEDING T.Rumpet

            You’re entitled to your opinion, although it’s idiotic.

          • Gorsh. Thanks.

  • Bradford Kelly

    America needs compulsory voting ASAP as well as compulsory registration at 18 years old.

    Once these things are done then you eliminate all of the jiggery-pokery that these arseholes do to suppress voters and you also remove the apathy. Voting on a Tuesday for president is also ridiculous. Why not all day Saturday or Sunday? Voting reform is long overdue.

    Can someone in the USA who is familiar with this sort of thing enlighten me as to why voting isn’t mandatory? Is it the free speech thing?

  • OZ_in_TX

    For the good people of Kentucky who went and voted against this guy, just to end up clutching their hair and screaming “WHY??” at the sheer levels of apathy surrounding them… you have my utmost sympathies.

    Sincerely,

    A Gay guy from Houston who voted.

  • Anybody here a lawyer? I do not think this guy can do anything he has sworn to do. This is going to be a hoot. I wonder if the guy is going to be another Brownback.

  • Franciscan

    Governor-elect of Kentucky joins the governors of Kansas and Wisconsin who are trying to dismantle government services to the electorate because of a) ideology, or b) ownership by the rentier class. It is quite tempting to blame low voter turnout and/or voter ignorance, both of which apply, but it is hard to ignore the degree to which stealth, deceit, and corruption enter into the equation. I have a feeling the governor-elect’s decision to conceal his financial situation might be a way of concealing who paid his way into power.

  • JCF

    “Also during the news conference Bevin repeated his pledge to dismantle
    kynect, the state’s health insurance exchange that has been hailed as a
    national model”

    This upsets me more than anything to do w/ equal marriage (which is Federally guaranteed). People will DIE w/o health care, and Bevin can’t wait to KILL them!

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  • Okay, so there’s one relatively reasonable thing on his agenda (getting Kim Davis out of hot water without adversely impacting the issuance of marriage licenses). That really doesn’t make hem any less scary.

    The people in Kentucky most to blame for this man’s election are the people who didn’t bother to go to the polls. I find it hard to believe that if there was good turnout, this guy would have been elected.

    • On the other hand, its entirely possible the people of American are not with the gay agenda. After all, polls are one thing, polling places are another. Man woman marriage won 34 statewide races.

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  • Tom J

    Obama and the IRS and Justice Department need to look very carefully into Matt Bevins Taxes.

    They should do it now!

    Bevin more or less ran against Obama in his ads about Conway. Why not legally punish this charlatan immediately over tax issues? That is after all how the Feds got Al Capone.

    His idea to push people off of Kynect medical insurance and make them go on the Federal program, that he also opposes, is pure hypocrisy.

    The far right wing voters who turned out to vote for Bevin should lose or give up their Medicare and Social Security so as to be consistent with wacky Tea Party values. No?

    Bevin is an all time low for modern Kentucky.

  • newtosf921

    and, now we will have Kim Davis for life state civil service employee who broke the law, usurped court orders/judges’ orders, did not perform the required duties of her job, publically denounced her job and now will be rewarded for that. Yes, that is religious freedom!

    • She broke no law. She asserted her rights and has been vindicated. Get used to it.

      Obergefell did not require that any two giggling men get a marriage license FROM A PARTICULAR PERSON. understand?