Ted Cruz Hints At Reinstating DADT

Speaking yesterday at a campaign rally in Iowa, Ted Cruz blasted the move to allow transgender military service and even hinted that he would reinstate Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell as president. From the Washington Post:

The military will soon allow transgender soldiers to serve, noted Cruz. “How about having the military focusing on hunting down and killing the bad guys…instead of treating it as this crucible for social justice innovations. We’ve lost sight of what their job is and that’s what we need to get back to.” Cruz asked at a stop at a restaurant here. The Texas Republican was asked about Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, a controversial policy that excluded gays from military service that ended in 2011. A man here noted that it ended under the Obama administration and wondered what would happen if Cruz were elected president. Cruz said he would “listen to the expert judgment of the generals and admirals” on the current situation and that military policy should follow what is needed for “good order and discipline” and not social issues.

According to Cruz, President Obama is using the military as a “cauldron for social experiments.”

  • Mark

    “How about having the military focusing on hunting down and killing the bad guys…”

    If the military is hunting down the bad guys, Cruz best get running as fast as he can….

    • Reality.Bites

      I keep telling you folks he renounced his Canadian citizenship and we don’t HAVE to take him back!

      • I demand to see the long-form renunciation!

      • olandp

        Luck you…

      • Mark

        Have you no PITY??!!??

  • lymis

    ““How about having the military focusing on hunting down and killing the bad guys…”

    How about having the military being about recruiting and keeping people who can do their job, not using it as a club for people who are straight enough, white enough, Republican enough, and Christian enough for you to approve of?

    If anyone in the military is incapable of doing their job professionally, then they don’t belong in the military. But if they can, then anything about them that doesn’t impact their ability to do their job should be inconsequential.

    • clay

      I actually worry that “hunting down and killing the bad guys” for Cruz means going back to BEFORE dadt, and we’re the “bad guys”.

      • Todd20036

        Frankly, it’s not just Cruz. The GOTP plank includes rolling back LBGT gains by codifying anti gay bigotry into the Constitution.

        The GOTP wants to make all gay people the “bad guys”, not just gay soldiers.

        • scottrose

          …..

    • b

      Kicking well trained, well qualified soldiers was a creepy social experiment. It was proved to harm retention, cohesion and morale.

      • Chucktech

        It was also demonstrated to harm national security. Right after 9/11, we desperately need people who could speak/translate Arabic. We had a few of those people. Turned out they were gay, so out they went.

        • Friday

          Yep, they even had to lower security standards to replace the LGBT people they kicked out.

    • scottrose

      Also, killing is not the entire focus of the U.S. military. The Coast Guard, for example, is part of the military and is not generally involved in killing.

  • Webslinger

    Ted Cruz would learn that the Pentagon believes that last year’s repeal was actually beneficial for unit morale, and that none of the concerns expressed by opponents of the decision have come to fruition. In addition, there was considerable support for lifting the ban on openly gay and lesbian people serving in the military from the heads of three of the four branches of the military even before DADT was repealed.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/politics/2010/11/30/nat.dadt.timeline.cnn.640×360.jpg

    • Wayne

      I liked your comment because what you said is true but I have to say, as a gay man who was serving in the Army back during the witch hunts and overt discrimination against gay soldiers during the late 80’s that led to President Clinton signing the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy into law – I really don’t like your photo. Unless you served back then you guys really have NO FUCKING CLUE what it what like. The witch hunts and having your military career ruined and any benefits taken away with a dishonorable discharge wasn’t the half of it. People were being hunted down and getting their heads bashed in while sleeping in the barracks! “Blanket Parties” may sound like a fun time but living through it was not – trust me.

      Bill Clinton was the first President to EVER speak out in the defense of gay soldiers, and yes DADT did NOT do what he had hoped it would, but it was a compromise that DID HELP to ease some of the worst discrimination that we as gay soldiers faced and the policy was the first break in the dam that eventually lead to the ban being lifted. And back then YES I AND MOST of the gay soldiers I knew (we really were a secret society back then) were so thankful for Bill Clinton and saw his actions as HEROIC.

      • clay

        It was congress that stripped out the Clinton administration’s third phrase, “Don’t pursue.”

        • lymis

          And with or without THAT phrase, the “ask” part was never enforced, either. As far as I know, nobody was ever formally disciplined for even the most gross violations.

          I remember the one case where a senior(ish) officer – an Air Force colonel, as I recall, was outed because his house burned down and they found a gay porn tape in the ashes – and he was summarily pitched out, even though he never actually said he was gay. They pulled in his disgruntled civilian ex (and I never heard the resolution of whether the ex did or didn’t start the fire) to testify. He never “told,” but they sure as hell did “ask” – and out of the service he went.

      • Webslinger

        I too served in the Army Reserve for 16 years…while I understand what you are sharing here…for the me DADT was a shitty thing because it was like hiding in plain sight…yes, there were witch hunts but it was because some men and women were tired of “hiding and being physically and verbally abused on a daily basis” , it was like no Irish need apply but “how did all my laundry get done and the garbage get picked up”…I HATED it…furthermore it was a measure to make one GO DEEPER into repression and the closet..it was a SLAP in the face for many therefore I will leave the picture where it stands…

        • Wayne

          I was serving full time active duty every day during the height of the “witch hunts” during the late 80’s. The early AIDS epidemic had just hit and America had never seen such overt fear and homophobia. And the military went into hyper fear mode. The witch hunts did not happen because “some men and women were tired of hiding and being physically and verbally abused on a daily basis” – that’s BULLSHIT. They happened because discrimination against gays had always been military policy and the fear of HIV/AIDS and of gay people in general during the late 80’s throughout the country and the military allowed for a culture that turned a blind eye when a bunch of rowdy straight guys decided to go and pick somebody out of the platoon that was even rumored to be gay, wait till he was asleep, throw a blanket over him, and have ten or twenty guys beat the shit out of that faggot.

          That’s how it happened. And policy the president signed helped END that, hell just having Clinton speak out about it helped end it.

          • Webslinger

            Your experience is YOURS as well as your opinion…you do not get to discount and/or diminish mine to express yours…thank you

          • Wayne

            Can I ask when and where you served in the Army Reserve and how long was your longest deployment? More than the standard 2 weeks? I formed my views during a full tour of active duty during the height of when the policy we are discussing was being formulated, how about you?

          • Webslinger

            You seem to be deeply invested in being correct and your opinion reign supreme therefore I have no need or desire to converse with you any further.

          • Kelly Lape

            And you seem to be an opinionated coward without the credentials to back up your uninformed opinion.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Can I ask if you still think that the pig Zimmermans murder of Trayvon Martin was justified?

          • Wayne

            What I said was that under the law and the evidence presented at trial Zimmerman was legally within his right to defend himself and use lethal force if necessary. That is the law and a trial by jury came to the exact conclusion I did. Nor does that have anything to do with Dont Ask Don’t Tell.

          • Kelly Lape

            Your experience of DADT, without the experience of life before DADT does allow me to say you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.

          • Bill_Perdue

            DADT didn’t end military bigotry – it codified it into law. It was a huge step backwards.

            As the friends and lovers of PFC Barry Mitchell murdered as a result of DADT. “Barry Winchell (August 31, 1977 – July 6, 1999) was an infantry soldier in the United States Army, whose murder by a fellow soldier, Calvin Glover, became a point of reference in the ongoing debate about the policy known as “Don’t ask, don’t tell”, which did not allow U.S. military gays and lesbians to be open about theirsexual orientation.</i<"

          • Kelly Lape

            I disagree with your conclusion Bill. Bigotry doesn’t depend on law for legitimacy.

            Anti gay animus was fanned by the GOP as a political cudgel against liberal ideas in general and the Democratic Party in particular. Rather than addressing the anti-gay animus that was fanned in the early eighties by the “Moral Majority” the GOP embraced hyperbolic religious figures with anti-gay rhetoric for political reasons.

            DADT allowed those of us that were serving breathing space. We had a long way to gay, but it was a giant leap forward from what he had. During my many discussions about homosexuality and the military, I had many conversations with my shipmates using very carefully phrased generic statements.

            I believe the greatest contribution to gay rights was an organization called Act Up. This organization challenged those of us living in the closet to come out and allow our friends and families to put faces to the fight for LGBT rights. It was this campaign that leaves me with the greatest regrets about DADT, it removed the most marketable (by this I mean the faces of young dedicated military personnel) elements of the gay rights movement from the conversations.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I didn’t say that bigotry depends on law. I said that DADT codified bigotry in to law and that is Bill Clinton is a bigot.

          • Kelly Lape

            Bigotry was codified into law in 1948 with the implementation of the UCMJ (See link below). DADT began the long painful process of repealing the law.

            http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm125.htm

          • Bill_Perdue

            Bigotry was codified with DADT by Bill Clinton. That was also true of DOMA.

        • lymis

          When I reported to my second ship, all the gossip was about a presumed gay man on another ship who had vanished one night. Everybody *knew* he’d been thrown overboard for being gay (whether that was true or not) and the ONLY talking point was whether he was a queer or not. Not a moment’s discussion about whether he’d been murdered.

          And if there was any sort of investigation into it, it was cursory at best and closed nearly instantly. THAT part of things was equal parts “Oops, shit happens” and discussions of whether he deserved it or not.

          That certainly had a chilling effect on gay people who were keeping our heads down and just doing our jobs.

      • SoCalVet

        ^SO FUCKING TRUE

        • Cattleya1

          I turned down a full scholarship from the Air Force in the 1980’s because I just couldn’t sign that piece of paper. I am still paying off the student loans.

      • poose

        I heard a story on NPR about the conference in (I think) Hawaii when the DSM-IV protocols were settled on (circa 1994 or so) and homosexuality was removed as a disease. Several members of the military were present-many openly wept as the thought the battle was over.

        If they only knew it had just begun…

      • Gene

        thank you for what you said.
        Clinton was the first ally we had…was he perfect? hell no. Was he going against a society and congress that 1) had not evolved as much as he had, and 2) a congress that could and did EASILY vote in such numbers against us that they would have overridden any veto, a veto which would have cost him dearly in public opinion and hurt his ability to most any other parts of his agenda? yeah, he was, and that was the situation.
        I understand frustration (felt myself at the time) but military friends all (gay) told me the same thing “DON’T BLAME CLINTON…he is the first friend we ever had”.
        .
        thats the one thing I don’t find appealing among a lot of my liberal friends…the demand for perfection, and for it to have occurred in the PAST when it was all but politically impossible.

        • Kelly Lape

          The ability to criticize the good for lack of perfection is why compromise is a dirty word in politics.

          Thank you for sharing Gene.

    • Bill_Perdue

      DOMA, NAFTA, deregulation, Iraq, gutting welfare – all were Republican initiatives embraced, championed and signed or implemented by Bill Clinton and most Democrats. They’re a prime example of the interconnections and political agreement of the Democrat and Republicans.

      DADT, the codification of military bigotry, was all Bill Clintons. He owns it.

      • Kelly Lape

        During the 1992 Presidential Campaign then Governor Clinton was asked at an MTV Sponsored event about what his policy toward gays in the Military would be, he responded that he would end the ban.

        Post election, but prior to his inauguration, the GOP (as usual) looked for his weak spot and began attacking his lack of Military service by coupling his inexperience with his stated plan to end the ban.

        Instead of hitting the ground running on Democratic and Progressive issues, President Clinton was faced with starting his administration with a very public loss. The compromise was forced.

        As Wayne says if you didn’t live, STFU.

        http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/12/us/compromise-on-military-gay-ban-gaining-support-among-senators.html

        • Bill_Perdue

          Democrat Senator Sam Nunn and Colin Powell, war criminal, led the fight for DADT. Clinton caved. DADT belong to him.

          “As Wayne says” – Wayne is a right libertarian sometime and a Republican other times, and he says that Zimmerman, the pig who murdered Trayvon Martin, was justified. No doubt you agree with that too.

          • Kelly Lape

            Talk about a strawman argument. To attack an argument by attacking someone else by association to somehow diminish my point.

            Bill is that the best you’ve got? This discussion is about DADT. I served from 1983 to 2003 when I retired from active duty. Half of my career is before DADT and the other half during DADT.

            Having been actively watching the proceedings with a very vested interest. I can categorically tell you that President Clinton took the best deal possible at the time. To criticize progress because it wasn’t perfect shows your imperfect understanding not just of politics but of the times in question.

            Unfortunately since DADT was implemented the GOP has become unhitched from reality and compromise has become something that gets politicians fired.

          • Bill_Perdue

            DADT was implement by Clinton until the 2000 elections and then by Bush and Bush Lite after the2000 and 2008 elections.

            You choose your allies and I’ll choose mine.

          • Kelly Lape

            Apparently your allies are the GOP.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I’m a socialist, you’re a DADT Democrat.

          • Kelly Lape

            Bill you don’t get to define who anyone’s allies are. You don’t get to define me in your arguments.

            You can make an argument against DADT and/or DOMA if you choose to. There are many reasonable arguments to be made against both. President Clinton has publicly stated that both sets of legislation were wrong.

            It’s easy to criticize in hindsight. DOMA was a political compromise at a time when the GOP was preparing to use LGBT Americans as a campaign issue for their political gain. Without DOMA we would have seen Marriage Amendments on state ballots across the land, and a U.S. Constitutional Amendment at a time when defeating said amendment was in no way guaranteed. DOMA was legislation to placate the Religious Right and deflate an effort for a Constitutional Amendment by making it unneccessary.

            DOMA was supported by liberal politicians because without it we would have lost in a way that wouldn’t allow the courts to eventually rule in our favor.

            Politics isn’t always about what is right, rather it is usually about what can be done.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I’ll make my own political judgements about supporters of DADT and the Clintons.

            You don’t get to call people who oppose DADT cowards.

            You’re lying about DOMA. The first proposal for a federal marriage amendment was in 2002, 6 years after the bigot Bill Clinton introduced DOMA. “The original proposed Federal Marriage Amendment was written by the Alliance for Marriage with the assistance of former Solicitor General … It was introduced in the 107th United States Congress in the House of Representatives on May 15, 2002, by Representative Ronnie Shows (D-Miss.) with 22 cosponsors… .” The first state marriage amendment was 2 years after DOMA. Wiki

            No one who repeated your lie has ever proven that the FMA would have been introduced. “In 1996, I was President of the Human Rights Campaign, and there was no real threat of a Federal Marriage Amendment.” Elizabeth Birch, former head of HRC in AmericaBlog 03 12 2013

            Clinton supported it because he was (and is) a bigot pandering to bigots. “By the time Clinton arrived in Chicago for his party’s convention in August, nothing that hinted at liberalism was left hanging on him. When the President, who had begun his term advocating the rights of gays in the military, came around to supporting the Defense of Marriage Act, which barred federal recognition for gay and lesbian unions, Dole was wide-eyed. “Is there anything we’re for that he won’t jump on?” Dole asked. The answer, essentially, was nothing… http://www-cgi.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/analysis/time/9611/23/kramer/

            After he championed it and signed it he boasted about it. “One reason the Rick Warren thing is a big deal is because, after Bill Clinton, the gay community is unusually sensitive to getting the shorter angle of presidential triangulation. It is hard to overstate the optimism and excitement that gays and lesbians felt in 1992. But the optimism deflated spectacularly after “Don’t Ask, Don’t tell” and the Defense of Marriage Act, not to mention President Clinton’s sneaky 1996 ad boasting about DOMA, which aired only on Christian radio. Clinton was willing to say the word “gay” in public and appear in black tie at the Human Rights Campaign dinner, but, in the eyes of the gay political community, his commitment to gay rights vanished. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-4675355-503544.html

          • Wayne

            No, I am a progressive democrat. And you twist my actual position on one subject to try and defame another. A straw man argument.

          • Bill_Perdue

            So now you’re a Democrat and still a rightist. That’s not uncommon.

            Your views on Martin’s murder by Zimmerman are racist and your views on DADT are excuse mongering for the bigotry of those who authored it – Sam Nunn and Colin Powell – and the bigot who signed it.

          • Jeffrey

            Don’t waste too much time arguing with Bill. You have a well informed point of view.

          • Chucktech

            No, he said the Zimmerman matter was adjudicated in a court of law and, unfortunately, a stupid, gun-loving law allowed that pig to go free.

          • Bill_Perdue

            “That is the law and a trial by jury came to the exact conclusion I did.”

          • Chucktech

            Because of the LAW, Bill! The jury was INSTRUCTED on what the criteria were to find him guilty of murder, what the criteria were to find him guilty of manslaughter, and what the criteria was to find him innocent. And in her instructions to the jury, the judge REMINDED them that Zimmerman had no obligation to retreat, even if it’s HE who picked a fight with this black kid and the black kid started to whoop his ass. THAT’S what the “Stand Your Ground” bullshit law allows. Hence, the jury was led to the ineluctable conclusion that this fat little cream puff wanna-be play-baby “cop” was innocent.

          • Kelly Lape

            Zimmerman had the gun. Zimmerman pulled the trigger that ended a childs life. Zimmerman was instructed not to confront the individual by the 9-11 operator. Zimmerman failed to follow those instructions. These facts were not disputed by Zimmerman or his attorny.

            Not Guilty by the technical definition of the law in this case is in no way a declaration of Zimmermans “innocence”

          • Chucktech

            Oh, absolutely. Big, baby cream puff tough guy with his gun…

      • Webslinger

        VERY WELL STATED Bill…and do not forget the “Mass incarceration of Black and Brown” people during the 1990s…supported by Bill Clinton and Congress members of BOTH parties…

        • Bill_Perdue

          Slavery is constantly being reinvented – by the Democrats Jim Crow laws, then by Nixon’s anti-drug laws as a tool to punish/imprison/enslave people of color.

          Clinton gutted welfare and hired a 100,000 plus new cops ‘just in case’.

    • RoFaWh

      I bet the exception was the Air Force.

  • Joe in PA

    Listen to …expert judgment of the generals and admirals…

    ah, we’ve already done that…that’s why we don’t have DADT anymore. Putz.

    • Todd20036

      He’d search out the few officers remaining who would like to reinstate DADT, and ignore everyone else, just so he could prove a point.
      Sort of like what Regenus did.

      • Joe in PA

        Exactly.

      • Ninja0980

        Indeed, he would point to the ones like Jerry Bonkin who now works for the FRC and ignore the rest.

        • Yeah that’s what they do on this specifically. Everyone who
          has been in post DADT know that it hasn’t been a problem…4 years in there are challenges to the military but none of them are from repealing DADT….that has been a total success. So they turn to these right wing former military people like Jerry Bonkin for their input.

          • Kelly Lape

            My CO when I retired was tasked as part of a joint effort to Train the Trainers. This team went around to U.S. bases east of the Mississippi to instruct senior officers and enlisted on how to implement the policy of open service.

            Before they began their task, my former CO and I talked at great length on the issues facing LGBT military while under DADT.

            The part of the conversation that I put on the table was next of kin notification. Under DADT when a gay service member was killed or wounded, our spouses were not approached by qualified grief counselors. Our spouses would learn of our casualties by word of mouth on the base. To know that your most loved person in the world would learn of your death at a 7/11 in a casual reference from a friend – “Oh hi, did you hear about Kelly? So sad.”

            DADT was a horrible policy that was much better than pre-DADT.

          • scottrose

            Remember when the military desperately needed Arabic translators, but fired a number of gay ones only because the translators were gay, and then there weren’t enough Arabic-speaking translators in the military?

          • Kelly Lape

            Yes. It was ridiculous but it was policy.

            There are many stories of units forcing out members to deploy and discharging them after they’d been used.

        • cmbennett01

          There is a reason Jerry Boykin now works for the FRC and is no longer in the military. His opinions don’t count.

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        • douglas

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          • Harley

            You know you are just talking to a robot.

    • Harley

      He’s playing to his donors, 99% of them have never served in the military and whose children and grandchildren will never serve in the military as well.

  • Michael Rush

    Desperate times call for desperate candidates .

    • PLAINTOM

      Imaginary fears call for insane candidates.

  • Michael

    How but just go away & take your crazy father with you to where ever you came from.

  • poose

    Cruz said he would “listen to the expert judgment of the generals and admirals”

    Reminds me of a quote from Sir Winston Churchill when challenged by the Admiralty on the changes in combat:

    “Sir Winston, you are violating the traditions of the Admiralty!”

    “Don’t talk to me about naval tradition. It’s nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash.”

    Maybe Teddy boy is projecting a bit?

  • bryan

    His statement demonstrates that he is not listening to the experts now. Which means his opinion is worthless.

    • Chucktech

      And in the unlikely bizarro world of a Cruz administration, it means his opinion is dangerous.

  • StraightGrandmother

    Maybe we should go back and re segregate the services based on race.
    Social justice “innovation” has no place in the military, right?
    Maybe we should go back and reclassify which positions women can aspire to in the military as well.
    Cruz, if you are going to go back, go ALL the way back, back where white straight males run the military with an iron fist.

    • Marc

      What makes it worse is that in Cruz’s idealized 1950s America, he wouldn’t have even had a seat at the big kid’s table. And here he is trying to put everyone else back in their place… without any hint of irony

      • Todd20036

        True. He shouldn’t have a seat at the big kid’s table now.
        But that’s because he’s an idiot, not because he’s a filthy Canadian.

      • zhera

        He and Ben Carson. Fools for hire.

    • GanymedeRenard

      As a white straight male, that’s exactly what he wants. Sadly.

      • RoFaWh

        Not just white and straight but a liar to boot.

        • GanymedeRenard

          And a fundie – oh, wait, liar and fundie are a redundancy. My bad.

  • LovesIrony

    The military deserves better than this bigot as chief

  • Gustav2

    This is where Republicans get into trouble. Promising things they can’t do, ban abortion completely, defund Planned Parenthood completely, and bring back DADT and marriage discrimination.

    The angry base just gets more angry and sends the Freedom Caucus to kill the government.

    • skeptical_inquirer

      Pandering to social conservatives is a bad move because they want things that scare off a lot of other people. They scare off non-Christians, feminist women, people who are not as white as their version of Jesus, etc. It’s a base that is also getting smaller and smaller and fringier and fringier.

      • David L. Caster

        It’s a base that is also getting smaller and smaller and fringier and fringier.

        Nevertheless it’s a block that votes and therefore the only way to crush its political influence out of existence is to vote counter to it.

      • Gustav2

        They scare off Christians

  • AtticusP

    My grandfather has a better chance of being elected president than this asshole, and he has been dead for decades.

    • John

      “…he has been dead for decades” Then your grandfather shares some intellectual ground with Mr. Cruz.

  • Cosmo Tupper

    Teddy boy. Let’s imagine that you are a f*cking fool….oh, wait a minute….you ARE a f*cking fool. Go home!

  • Chris

    Yes, why not focus on letting the men and women in the military do their jobs, and not allow them to be tormented, harassed, discriminated and treated like common criminals due to their sexual orientations and gender identities?

    The only one using the military for anything related to social issues is YOU Ted.

    • Yup bingo. Our side is saying judge on job performance not sexual orientation or gender identity. Their side is saying judge on sexual orientation or gender activity because our agenda opposes equal rights for LGBT people…and then they want to claim it is our side with a social agenda??

  • Steven Leahy

    First of all, you don’t have the POWER to unilaterally do such a thing. Secondly show me ONE item that demonstrates the military has been compromised by daring to acknowledge that it owes all taxpaying citizens the same opportunities and responsibilities.

    Your bigger concern, Cruz, should be worrying about whether you’re constitutionally entitled to become president (like that will ever happen, anyway). The debate still goes on about what “natural born” means. Even Obama was born on US soil, unlike you.

    • Chucktech

      The reason we wouldn’t have that “natural born” debate is because Democrats are above that puerile bullshit.

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    Oh Teddy….

  • clay

    Ted, you can’t even win Queen of the Senate Ball, let alone the Presidency of the United States of America.

  • Jan Wesselius

    Oh wow, Les took a lesson from Cruz, he is pointing. And Cruz is bringing up something that is totally asinine.

  • DutchBoy74

    I hope his closet is ripped wide open.

    • Vista-Cruiser

      I hope that Ted Cruz isn’t on our team. I don’t want him.

  • Well the generals and admirals would say that repealing DADT has been good for the military and that it would be foolish to re-instate it. This is because an effective force cares about people’s ability to do their job, not kicking people out because they don’t fall within the anti-gays definition of acceptability. It is the anti-gays position that goes exactly against the best interest of the military, all the anti-gays want is that their agenda is supported, they don’t care what is actually good for the force.

  • Blobby

    ““How about having the military focusing on hunting down and killing the bad guys….”

    Then I suppose they’d shoot you, Teddy.

  • SFBruce

    Seems to me that not excluding people for irrelevant reasons actually strengthens the military. Doing otherwise weakens it, but that’s a small price to pay when there are those GOP primary voters who must be pandered to, and Cruz is just the man to do it.

    • Yeah exactly. Not only has the military put a significant investment into me but my leadership and peer evaluations show that I am more then capable…and yet Cruz thinks that I should be discharged from the military because the anti-gay activists say so. Their position hurts the military by kicking out qualified soldiers and tossing that investment down the drain.

  • zhera

    Cruz said he would “listen to the expert judgment of the generals and
    admirals” on the current situation and that military policy should
    follow what is needed for “good order and discipline” and not social
    issues.

    But that would mean keeping things as they are NOW.

    DADT was NEVER EVER good for “good order and dicipline”. It made life a living hell for people who only wanted to do their job.
    It’s good to know that Cruz will never be President.

  • Lakeviewbob

    And Cruz is using genitals as a cauldron of divisiveness. Such a fucking creepy scumbag.

  • David F.

    Ted – flying pigs will be snow skiing in Hell before you ever become president.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Love that image!

  • Brian in Valdosta

    While you’re at it, Ted, it seems just as logical to look into re-instating mandatory use of the musket.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Seriously if he want to stay relevant in politic how much mileage can he milked from DADT? How can he differentiate from the other thugs within his party?

  • Ted Cruz is a dangerous demagogue who is playing to the “know-nothing” crowd, hoping to position himself for picking up the crackpots in the Trump crowd to bolster his campaign chances. He should only not ever be elected to be POTUS, he should not be re-elected to his senate seat. Hopefully Texas turns blue enough to send him packing by the time he comes up for re-election.

    • Chucktech

      As far as bolstering his campaign chances, he’s got a tough slog ahead. As far as his Senate seat, we can only hope Texas turns magenta enough to boot him.

  • Gerry Fisher

    “I just g.o.t.t.a. get this toothpaste back into this tube!!!”

  • Bj Lincoln

    There are some things you can’t put back in the closet.
    He can try. Won’t happen.

    • Well like what would they do with all the men and women already out in the military? Discharge all those people…that would be a huge PR disaster like huge. The Media would have an endless supply of Military members,
      many of them combat veterans, to come on and talk about how this is hurting them and disrespecting their service. So they couldn’t do that. So then just put the policy back in place with an exemption for those already out?? Well that would just prove that it doesn’t need to go back in place.

      • poose

        That’s the joy of it, the silent acknowledgement that much like the Hispanic “problem”, what do you do when “they” are in integral part of life?

        I once saw a stat that indicated the “underground” economy was just as large as the real one, and “cutting it off” wouldn’t help, it would devastate the “real” economy..

        Cruz, et al isn’t the answer. No one in the clown car has a solution…

        Get over it, folks Immigration policy is A JOKE. Time to embrace the issue-that there are too many peeps on the rock. There are also many tasks that need done. Maybe combine the two issues?

        Need a reference? try Works Progress Administration. Not new-been done before…

      • Don’t forget that his support comes from the teabaggers — who booed an active duty soldier because he was gay.

  • poose

    A short story-just wanted to share. Somewhat relevant to the topic.

    A quirk of genetics and social interaction elevated me to a high position in one world-the Red Cross folks lurved me (bubbles). During the height of the early AIDS epidemic (back when it was called GRID) they needed donors whom were not only O neg, but also SQUEAKY FUCKING CLEAN. Their metric was that I had never contracted CytoMegeloVirus (CMV, aka the kissing disease) and they could use my blood for rh therepy in newborns.

    I personally donated over 2 gallons. They stop measuring at that point and just give you extra cookies…

    The tie-in was that this was occurring during the witch hunts in the military. I had a homosexual affair during that time, but didn’t feel wrong about it as I had used precautions (nothing says “health aware” like having an RN (registered nurse) as a mom) and my partner was also new to this.

    As my blood continued to test clean, I passed under the radar.

    I’m in my 50’s now and have settled in central Indiana (family reasons) and would like to resume my good works-but I SHOULD tell them I have traveled overseas for extended periods (Oz and EnZed). So yes, I have been tested and I continue to be SQUEAKY FUCKING CLEAN. So, if I wish to gift my contribution to life (ask any doctor the joy that is being O neg, we can give to anyone-but can only receive our own type) so if I wish to continue to help-I must lie.

    Despite giving the very gift of life to so many souls (Rh incompatibility syndrome, the therapy is to effectively swap out the newborn’s blood supply with Rh neg blood) that because I didn’t fit the (very) narrow definition of compatible (might harbor illness, now testable) and despite I hit all other criteria…

    I must now lie. If you knew just how rare O neg is, especially clean O neg, you would see the travesty this has become. I want to help, but if I told the full truth I would be disqualified-even if I can provide the labs the scream “I’m Clean!” I do so with knowledge-that I AM clean, and they need me.

    Yeah. DADT is a positive?

    Fuck you, Ted. Some lie just to help. Some lie just to survive.

    • Bj Lincoln

      Wow! Lie and be a great help. I don’t donate because of the ban on gay men. I was up to my first gallon when the ban went into effect and stopped. I have had my blood taken for surgeries because I think it is safer, but I do not donate.
      You keep up the good work.

      • poose

        Yeah. The joys that not having a sex life endows…
        Don’t get me wrong. I’m not bitter and after two failed marriages (two’s my limit) I wish to just live-and help those in need.

        As for the gay ban?

        Even the CDC has said it’s a stupid idea, so yes. I will continue to test myself (not much opportunity to contract anything while chaste) and there are no long-term issues on the horizon, once every six weeks is fine. Time to jump back in the saddle!

        Weird side effect: needles (even the 20ga. monsters they use) no longer scare me. For a while my right arm looked like I was shooting heroine.

        According to the CDC, Oneg in th population is about 6.6%. Multiply by the fact tha only about 1 in 10 donate, or about 0.7% of the population give the most common transfused blood type.

        I sometimes feel it’s an obligation to give.

        • poose

          Hel, why isn’t there a subsidy for people like me? I should be getting PAID for this peeps, and you can argue against me when you’ve given up at least a gallon, K?

          Yes, needles hurt, and when your kid goes under the knife in emergency surgery and they order 2 units of O neg-where, exactly do you think it comes from?

          Not bitter per sey, but a LITTLE recognition would be nice.

          • Steve Teeter

            Well, WE’RE proud of you.

  • goofy_joe

    I think he has lost sight of what the military is there for, hunting down the bad guys and killing them? That sounds like mercenaries to me, not a military, which is supposed to be for protection, not hunting.

    But in Ted Cruz’s world, you need a bad guy in order to keep motivated. There is always anger in there somewhere, which is one of the things I find most upsetting about the GOP.

  • Marides48

    But you won’t be President BLANCHE!

  • Ninja0980

    Using your logic then Ted, the troops who are actively trying to turn the military into a way to push a Christian theocracy on everyone will need to be given the boot as well.

    • Chucktech

      Well… That needs to happen, regardless.

  • Justin

    Not happening, “Ted”. Neither the return to DADT nor your presidency. Get a real job.

    • Xuuths

      He can be a professional Senator McCarthy impersonator for films about the Red scare era!

      • Fyva Prold

        It may not work because he’d keep jizzing his pants during takes.

  • Sean

    “military policy should follow what is needed for ‘good order and discipline’ and not social issues.”

    Where have we heard that before?

    • Sean

      P.S.

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  • Silver Badger

    Having Queers with military training has always worried the bigots.

  • Sean Taylor

    Barring the divine intervention of his imaginary friend, Ted Cruz isn’t going to be President of the United States, so he can say whatever he wants, fuck him.

    • Silver Badger

      Only if he’s wearing a ball gag.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Whenever I think of a Cruz presidency:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CdKuLRmg8k

  • Joe Soap

    Cruz has got as much chance of being elected president as I have and I’m not American so I’ve got no chance at all.

  • Galvestonian

    ummmm…there’s one big reason why he won’t be POTUS !

  • GanymedeRenard

    He looks like a very sad man. No, really.

  • Fyva Prold

    Ted would have kicked Baron von Steuben from Inspector General position.

    • Chucktech

      …in a christian heartbeat.

  • marshlc

    Y’know, if the point really were to focus on the job of the military, wouldn’t it make more sense to dispense with the practice of excluding capable and competent soldiers on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity? To use the talents and skills of all your citizens, rather than just those who fit some irrelevant model?

  • Octavio

    Ted Cruz has to go. He’s not going to be president, but he’s still an ass wipe of the worst order. He has to go.

  • MikeBx2

    Ted Cruz as President? hahahahahahaha Now that’s rich.

  • Teddy boy, you have about as much chance of repealing DADT as you do of winning the presidency.

  • bcarter3

    “How about having the military focusing on hunting down and killing the bad guys…”

    Be careful what you wish for. You could be putting a lot of your most fervent supporters at risk.

  • Think of all the people who have served in the military now and in the past. Some of them heroically. Gays have always been among them. Ted Cruz never was. He never served. Enough said.

    • Chucktech

      That’s only a problem for teabaggers if you’re a Democrat.

  • charemor

    Cruz isn’t going to do shit because he is not going to get elected. Meanwhile, I am waiting for the day that ugly fucker gets caught with a boy friend or a rent boy.

  • “Cruz said he would “listen to the expert judgment of the generals and admirals” on the current situation. . . .”

    Who are not going to tell him what he wants to hear.

  • Gianni

    According to Cruz, President Obama is using the military as a “cauldron for social experiments.” And our dear Ted Cruz uses the Senate as a social experiment in how not to govern. He’s very good at being one of the self-appointed disruptors in Congress, making sure that literally nothing gets done by our elected legislative branch of government. He is a creep with his own social agenda.

  • TexPlant

    shiver down my spine at the thought of that horrible canadian ever being commander in chief of my beloved military….real America would just be tarnished forever!!!

  • James

    It amazes me how anyone can use “social justice” as something dirty. Isn’t equality and justice for everyone supposed to be one of the founding principles of the country this dolt claims to love?

  • Douglas E. Berry

    How about Cruz, who never bothered to serve, stop advocating cutting benefits for veterans?

    The exact same whines were made when the Armed Forces were integrated, women the Women’s Army Corps was disbanded and women served in the regular forces, when every barrier has come down, the conservative doomsayers cry that the military can’t fight.

    Fuck you. We fight. Straight, gay, TG, even Dodgers fans serve with honor and distinction. Because as I was told on my very first day at Infantry OSUT at Alpha Company, 7th Battalion, 1st Infantry Training Brigade; we were no longer what we were before, but now we are soldiers first and foremost. Not black or white, but Army Green.

    Some losers will leave the service over this. Others won’t adapt and get kicked out. But the majority will judge the transsexual on how well that person performs the assigned duties and supports the team.

  • anne marie in philly

    just try it, stoopid immigrant bastard! besides, you will NEVER be POTUS!

  • EscherEnigma

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the hypothetical President Cruz could still rely on the marines to give him the dissent he wanted.

    I work with a bunch of former marines. Solid folk. But they’re a little screwed up in the head.

  • Kuni Leml

    If the military actually started focusing on, domestically, hunting down and killing the bad guys, Ted Cruz and his ilk, ISIL/Daesh in America & The American Taliban, would be at the top of the drone targeting list.

    Just sayin.