CNN: Kim Davis Has Split 2016 GOP Field

This afternoon CNN highlighted the rifts in the GOP presidential field regarding the Kim Davis story. It’s expected that the Davis issue will come up at least once or twice during Wednesday’s debate.

  • MattM

    De-lic-ious.

    • Rex

      tapping my fingers together…

  • oikos

    Love it.

  • Gustav2

    Saying there should be some kind of religious accommodation, but the law is the law is not against Kim Davis…oh wait, these are Republicans.

    • RoFaWh

      Davis already has had plenty of religious accomodation. No one has yet declared the “church” she goes to as a subversive, seditious organization.

  • AtticusP

    Has anyone told Kim about this, as she hides in her office playing “Hide the Crucifix”?

    It might give her delusions of adequacy.

  • Stev84

    The only surprise there is Ben Caron. The ones on the left are known to be batshit crazy on any issue. Bush, Walker and Rubio are trying to pretend moderates and are largely successful with it.

    • Rambie

      Not really, the “grey” zone ones know this issue is a General election anchor and are trying to avoid it.

  • ben

    This definitely deserves the “Infighting is funny” tag.

  • crewman

    Left column: hard-core, rigid ideologues

    Middle column: candidates desperately trying to win the Republican primary, trying to find the magic answer to appeal to as many people as possible while offending as few as possible

    Right column: candidates with business experience who can understand what a nightmare it would be like to have an employee like Kim Davis, and candidates looking past the Republican primary at what a losing issue Kim Davis is beyond the Republican right-wing.

    • Steven Leahy

      LOL well put

    • Strepsi

      YES! I noticed all the people with business experience were in the right too. ALSO: Why does anyone still call Rand Paul a Libertarian?

      Rand Paul is a theocrat, pure and simple. Any time he’s had the opportunity to put libertarian, small-government, mind-your-own-business issues like marriage equality ahead of Jesus, he’s always sided with Big Government Jesus™.

    • Gustav2

      Be careful, Kasich is a Libertarian Theocrat. He only sounds like he is not a nightmare.

      • Queequeg

        Yes. He constantly mentions God.

      • DonnaLee

        I saw that, he’s trying to play the moderate Rep and he’s absolutely not.

      • GayEGO

        Oh, I thought Kasich was a Libertardian! :>)

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Couldn’t agree more.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      You should have some sort of show. I always enjoy how your posts are so spot on.

      • crewman

        Thanks mate 🙂

      • Todd Allis

        At least a blog!

    • Queequeg

      Perfectly stated.

  • ColdCountry

    Now that makes me smile.

  • oikos

    OT Bernie at Lieberty ‘University’

    https://youtu.be/_fOPBIc56gU

    • HanyBaal

      Wow, opening with believing in women’s rights & gay rights….. and then getting applause. WOW.

      • oikos

        I just finished watching it. He did a great job by opening with that and then challenging them on issues like maternity leave, equal pay, income inequality and using the buybull to do so. He also pointed out that if they were also concerned with these issues then that was common ground even thought they disagree on almost everything. Love Bernie. I wish he were 20 years younger though.

        • Steven Leahy

          I love him. He was on his game in this speech. If he presents nationally like this, I can’t see how he wouldn’t gain mlllions and millions more supporters.

          • oikos

            Now if he can pick a young, intelligent running mate with broad appeal.

          • Octavio

            Yeah, like James Franco. 🙂

        • BudClark

          Bernie at his age can kick the intellectual asses of those brain-dead bigots at Lie-brrr-tea “University” without breaking a sweat.

          • oikos

            It was interesting to watch the audience reactions. The conditioning and indoctrination is hard to break when the institution encourages obedience and conformity.

      • Steven Leahy

        He handled a really potentially TOUGH situation admirably, more power to him.

    • Soren456

      He will provide a tipping point for a few of them, and they will go on from there—the slippery slope, even. Kudos to him for that.

      But follow-up AP interviews suggest that most are clinging to abortion and the church’s “role” in correcting society as points of their resistance. They think he’s a nice guy, but they aren’t buying him.

      • oikos

        Still in their little bubble of existence it must seem quite odd to have someone with an opposing viewpoint being allowed to express it.

    • RoFaWh

      Sanders is NOT a presidential candidate. He’s one of the people who are trying to become that.

      • Octavio

        As much as I like and admire and agree with Bernie I’m afraid he would be another Jimmy Carter — micro managing and not able to persuade and move politicians to work with him. But he’s a decent man. That’s something we don’t have enough of in office.

      • oikos

        I thought that of a young Senator from Illinois too just a few years back.

        • Octavio

          Lincoln?

          • oikos

            Was it just 7.5 score ago that he was Prez? My how time flies.

        • danolgb

          I’d actually rather Bernie stay in the senate. I really think he’s needed where the laws are actually made. Presidents have little control over the things he’s looking to change. It is important that he’s bringing it to the table tho.

          • oikos

            While I initially thought that. I’m not sure what the dynamics of this race will be by spring. At this point my hope is for a Dem to win the White House, no matter which one.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Rand Paul reflects the odd alliance of anti-Civil Rights Act libertarians and the Religious Right.

  • TampaDink

    Imagine what all of this attention is doing to her ego.

    • KnownDonorDad

      Didn’t you hear what Mat Staver said? She’s a humble woman who doesn’t want any attention….

      • TampaDink

        Yup….this is all just her way of not being like the hypocrites, but going into her room, closing the door & praying in private. Seems that she understands that part of her magic book as much as she understands the parts about adultery.

        • oikos

          or Timothy 2:12

        • Soren456

          She’s watching TV in there. Tuned to Home Shopping Network—all those contributions coming her way have got her drooling.

          • TampaDink

            She had those same feelings when she would watch “Here Comes Honey Boo Boo”.

      • jomicur

        That Matt is such a cutup!

      • Rex

        Oh, Stop! My sides are hurting….

      • Bad Tom

        And Mat has a bridge in Brooklyn for sale that he’d like us to consider.

        • Furface

          Not to mention some ocean front property in Arizona.

          • Bad Tom

            Wait.
            Isn’t Mat a Climate Change denier?

    • Steven Leahy

      What? She’s just a modest christian lady, serving god and dutifully obeying her yokel husband. Oh and standing on stage screaming to the delight of hundreds of fundies and enjoying cameras on her at all moments.

      • TampaDink

        She is supposed to be just a modest christer serving god…but we all know that she is immodest & self-serving.

      • Robincho

        Sorta like Divine on the trampoline after a little too much liquid eyeliner…

  • Steven Leahy

    Gray area = logically I know she’s fucking WRONG but I don’t wanna piss off the fundies.

    • CanuckDon

      You have such a wonderful way with words.

    • DonnaLee

      Also in my mind the weakest of the lot, who have no chance at the final 3 spots. People want a definite response on this issue.

  • Michael Senesac

    All the losers are in favor. Kind of tells ya something.

    • j.martindale

      All the losers are in favor. All the losers are against. All the losers are in the middle, for that matter.

  • TheManicMechanic

    Nothing divides like stupidity, willful ignorance, and hate.

    • Octavio

      And often they bind us together. Go figure. 😐

  • Steven Leahy

    And what’s with Ben Carson? Will he not take a full-throttle position on ANYTHING? I could at least semi-respect him if he weren’t a limp wet noodle of a man with zero backbone & no constitution. I have never SEEN someone ride the fence on issues so much, when cornered.

    • oikos

      I don’t think he understands the issues so is afraid to take a position. He reminds me of a few people I know that are brilliant in their field of expertise but utterly lacking in comprehension of anything outside of that expertise and also lacking in social skills.

      • jomicur

        I believe the operative phrase is “idiot savant.” And in Carson’s case the emphasis is definitely on the first word.

        • JustSayin’

          In terms of politics I agree with you, in his career and education he has reached the 1% mostly on his own intelligence and skill, though affirmative action did get him into college and his first actual job as a doctor.

          • Strepsi

            Really, did the hospital have a minimum asshole quotient?

          • LovesIrony

            and he was the beneficiary of many government programs that he wants to cut.

          • DonnaLee

            If he gets a newscaster asking him about this programs, he’s done. What could he possibly say which will not make him look like a blithering idiot?

        • guest

          One too many secret whiffs on the oxygen mask in the O.R.

          • Bad Tom

            I don’t think it was oxygen he was huffing.

      • Steven Leahy

        LOL could you imagine him dealing with Putin? Merkel? North Korea? Anybody in the middle east?

        • Tempus Fuggit

          …the President of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan?

          • AtticusP

            I wonder why Herman Cain didn’t enter the race this year…

            Now there’s a sentence that I will never be able to say aloud and keep a straight face.

      • Steven Leahy

        As opposed to Trump who doesn’t understand the issues either but has a position on absolutely EVERYTHING LOL

        • oikos

          Exactly. If tRump doesn’t know it, he makes it up.

          • Octavio

            He kind of reminds me of me when I was 20. 🙂

          • oikos

            I think we each have a bit of that at 20. The difference is that we grow up.

          • Treg Brown

            I support this statement 🙂

          • Furface

            But are you unanimous in that support?

          • oikos

            Enjoy it while you can. 😉

          • Treg Brown

            I kinda get now that I can be a real dick and loudmouth; inappropriately passionate about stuff I feel strongly about, or hot-headed and always ready to challenge someone I disagree with.

            I don’t want to be THAT guy anymore so I’m trying to be more rational and calm about stuff. And I speak out in class a lot less. I think the people I go to school with appreciate that. Just turned 21 a few weeks so maybe that has something to do with it.

          • oikos

            The fact that you are aware of it means you’re already changing it however you’re allowed to be hot headed until at least 30. Enjoy every minute of your 20’s, Treg. It goes by really fast.

          • Treg Brown

            Thanks oikos.

            I’m still hotheaded in the pool 😉

          • oikos

            Ha! Life is good. 🙂

          • disQusTed

            30? I must admit the thought of being a cranky 80 year old one day who isn’t afraid to speak his mind appeals to me.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            Sweetheart, don’t ever lose that passion. It’s okay to feel strongly about stuff. You can do that and still be a calm and rational person. The art of debate boils down to this; acknowledge some part of the other person’s argument and then destroy their argument.

            And, don’t stop speaking out in class. As long as it’s done respectfully, your professors will appreciate it, or at least most of them will. It’s horrible to stand in front of a group of people and have not one person take any interest. I’ll bet the classes you sit are made better and more interesting by your passion. If your classmates don’t appreciate your outspokenness, it’s because they are lazy and not interested in working their brains.

            I’m always impressed by your intelligent and thoughtful comments.

            (I have kids a bit younger than you and this is the same advice I’d give them and have given them.)

          • Treg Brown

            🙂
            Thanx Wynter

          • Todd20036

            Beats me. At 20 I didn’t even realize I was gay

      • ScottJL

        Yup, I’ve said it before, I don’t want my neurosurgeon to be my president, and I don’t want my president to be my neurosurgeon.

        • AtticusP

          I just don’t want Ben Carson to be my president.

          Among a host of others, I might add…

          • bambinoitaliano

            Nor would I want to seek medical advice from him. I could suggest he be institutionalize though.

          • AtticusP

            I think you’re right. He would probably thrive if we could just find him the right home.

            It sure as hell won’t be the White House though…

        • Reality.Bites

          I have no iidea f Obama has the skills or not but I’d certainly have confidence in him if he was introduced to me as a neurosurgeon. More than Carson that’s for sure

        • coram nobis

          Wait a minute … neurosurgeons go for brains … zombies go for brains …

      • AtticusP

        How much you want to bet that Ben Carson’s nickname in medical school was “Rain Man”?

      • Octavio

        Like Bobby Fisher?

        • oikos

          and several bosses I’ve had over the years.

      • D. J.

        Carson has No.Common. Sense.

        • LovesIrony

          perhaps if he were to go into jail and when he came out he would be gay fabulous and filled with common sense.

    • JustSayin’

      His secret service code name is elephant-token..

    • Robincho

      Heh-heh… heh… you said “constitution.”

    • Strepsi

      (Whispers) “I’m doing a puzzle”. LOL

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufGlBv8Z3NU

      • coram nobis

        This will be a BLR classic, to rank with the Michelle Bachman, Game of Thrones and “Trick the Bridesmaid” videos.

    • LovesIrony

      he enjoys sitting on the fence post and bouncing up and down

    • DonnaLee

      I don’t think he’s had to look at the rest of life in so long… he’s incapable of doing it now. Ben is pretty typical of specialists in that respect. But he doesn’t have any staying power for going up against opposition.

  • Trevor Brown

    SO! She’s NOT ‘good for nothing’ after all. Praise Jeebus!

  • Tempus Fuggit

    Oh, hell, the Republican Party’s been centrally involved with this right from the beginning:

    • Steven Leahy

      That picture NEVER gets old. Or less frightening.

      • Sam_Handwich

        except that of ALL the republicans to drag into this, Cheney is probably the least qualified

        • Steven Leahy

          But the physical likeness is so uncanny it makes photoshopping easy.

          • Octavio

            You’re right. The resemblance is spooky!

      • Ish

        Didn’t Dick Cheney support gay marriage years before Hillary or Obama?

        • oikos

          What does that have to do with Scooby doo and the magic of photoshop?

  • The for Davis group is not only outnumbered but it is also filled with candidates who have no hope of winning the nomination. So that’s how badly the PR battle is going for Liberty Counsel, they can’t even get the GOP on board with their spin.

  • coram nobis

    In other conservative news, the anti-same-sex marriage Tony Abbott is out as leader of the Liberal Party (their conservative party). The new party leader — and PM — is pro-marriage.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/sep/14/australian-leader-tony-abbott-ousted-by-malcolm-turnbull-after-mps-vote

    It augurs well.

    • joe ho

      though during a press conference he dodged a question about same-sex marriage.

      • coram nobis

        Abbott apparently was trying to postpone the issue as long as he could. I gather that the party was also split about what to do about climate change. Abbott didn’t want to do much, this new guy does. Given the signs from the Great Barrier Reef, it’s something that country might not ignore.

  • bkmn

    It’s about the only good thing she has ever done.

  • JustSayin’

    Ha ha not a one in the pro Davis column has a snowballs chance of being in the race come February 2016. Only two in the gray area and two in anti Davis will come close to being in the race until February.

  • teeveedub

    For Bible fans (and I know there are many who hang around here), the headline should read “Kim Davis Hath Rent Asunder 2016 GOP Field.”

    • LonelyLiberal

      What union Kim Davis hath made, let no candidate put his ass under. Or something like that.

      • RoFaWh

        +1 for a truly excruciating pun.

  • It’s a litmus test – and the six on the right column (against Kim Davis) represent the more rational candidates. Trump is one of these, strangely enough. While there are other reasons to not elect Trump or Christie, the others in this column seem to be better choices than anyone else. If Rubio developed a backbone, he could be in this column, too, though it seems that Jebbie is a lost cause.

    • Lakeview Bob

      Sorry but Rubio is not ready to be a dog catcher and certainly not senator and never president

  • Paula

    I think the Dems should give Kim the MVP of the decade award. She has done the most harm to the repubs in the last few years.

    • Gustav2

      Between Ms Davis and the Donald…

      • Todd Allis

        Trump should name Kim Davis as VP!

  • Fun fact:

    Apostolic Christians, like Davis, are considered to be a splinter group, as dubbed by mainline Christian denominations. The word “cult” is used often to describe the legalism of Apostolic orgs like the UPC who push archaic social norms toward men and women. Even today’s more popular Baptist orgs don’t preach to women about prohibiting makeup, haircuts, etc. Apostolics are also pegged as culty for their view on salivation which isn’t merely a prayer for “Jesus to come into thy heart”. People like Davis require water baptism and “Receiving the Sprit” as evidenced by speaking in tongues to be considered saved.

    Preachers like Huckabee typically would denounce Christians like Davis as unsaved and misled, but it’s FUNNY how that suddenly goes away. He too would pounce on her for HER beliefs, but here we are. She’s a fucking pawn and she was used like a rented folding chair.

    • Lakeview Bob

      But I have more respect for rented folding chairs.

    • Bad Tom

      “Apostolics are also pegged as culty for their view on salivation…”

      Jesus must slobber on you, or you go to hell.
      ——-
      Don’t change it. It’s much better this way.

      • LonelyLiberal

        What if I’ve just had…other fluids…spurted in my direction and on me? Does that count?

        • Yes. Yes it does.

        • Bad Tom

          It does in my cult. Come sit by me.

      • GahHHh typos lol…I had to change it. Sorry.

        • Bad Tom

          😉

  • BudClark

    I read that as “GOP pestilential field” … hmmm …

    • GanymedeRenard

      It’s not myopia at all, Bud. It’s reality, 🙂

    • Steverino

      There needs to be a term invented for a reading inference that is akin to a “freudian slip.”

      Dyslexifreudia?
      : )

    • billbear1961

      You read correctly.

  • Octavio

    So what are we supposed to do? Thank Missy Kim for helping separate the wheat from the chaff? 🙁

    • Ah, you’ve discovered her nickname for her thighs.

  • bob

    Funny that her supporters are competing for last place!

    • Dave B

      Speaks volumes doesn’t it.

  • RoFaWh

    Those three columns could be headed “The Crazies”, “The Opportunists and Fence Sitters”, and “The Realists”.

  • danolgb

    The fundraising must be paying off. They’re going to file yet another [frivolous] lawsuit against the governor this week.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/attorney-calls-kim-davis-bravest-woman-in-america-and-says-fresh-lawsuit-is-coming/

    • oikos

      Every dollar they use on their lawsuits is one less going to some repug presidential candidate. Silver linings.

      • danolgb

        I would also like to point out that the county clerk position is probably one that could be completely replaced by an online service. They should look into that.

        • Bad Tom

          You can rent cloud servers for a lot less than $80k/year.

        • oikos

          Quite true. All an office needs is a notary at one central location to certify the online forms when submitted.

          • danolgb

            I don’t know if you even need that. In CA you can now buy a house completely online without a single notary or signature.

          • oikos

            That is a bit scary.

    • RoFaWh

      It’s only a matter of time before some judge forbids Davis and Liberty Counsel from filing any further lawsuits, against anybody for any reason, without prior judicial approval. The legal system does not like frivolous lawsuits and barratry.

  • Yeah, but what does Sarah Palin think? Oh, wait. She doesn’t.

    Never mind.

  • John P.

    Gotta love it!

  • Sam_Handwich

    Carson and Trump are really pulling ahead of the rest of the clown car.

    This is the craziest primary of my lifetime

  • Sam_Handwich

    this is way o/t ….but very cute

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrD1aVPySWc

    • oikos

      Thanks! That is some clever advertising.

    • noni

      Outrageous mocking Kimstians.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Brilliant!

    • MDB

      Händel – HWV 348 – Water Music Suite – Allegro Maestoso – Douglas Major, Organist
      (published just today 9/14/2015 on YouTube)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL0Bro2CLl0

  • another_steve

    Kim Davis aesthetically offends heaven and its inhabitants, but she is alive. Jerry Fallwell, on the other hand, is no longer alive.

    Now we must answer today’s ‘Jerry Falwell is Dead’ Memorial Quiz Question and by doing so, make amends with heaven.

    Your reward for being the first JMG reader to correctly reply will be waves of love sent from me to your modem or hand-held device.

    —————

    (1) What actor starred in the 1964 episode of “The Outer Limits” entitled “Demon With a Glass Hand”?

    (2) From what planet did the bad aliens come in that episode?

    (3) What crucial piece of information was revealed by the Glass Hand at the end of the epidode?

    http://www.homevideos.com/freezes-outerlimits/OL-DemonWithGlass21.jpeg

    • Furface

      1. Robert Clup.
      2. They’re called Kuben, but thwey come from a future Earth.
      3. Trent, Clup’s character, is an android.

      • another_steve

        Love to you for a near-perfect response, Furface.

        (1) Robert Culp is correct.

        (2) They were called “Kyben,” and they conquered Earth in 19 days. I don’t recall their coming from a future Earth. I believe they came from somewhere else.

        (3) It’s true that Culp’s character is an android, but the dual “takeaway” at the end is the hand revealing to Culp both his purpose and the location of humankind, which took refuge after the humans retaliated by releasing a radioactive plague designed to render the Earth uninhabitable by the invaders.

        Robert Culp died in 2010 at age 79.

        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Robert_Culp_1965.JPG/440px-Robert_Culp_1965.JPG

        • Furface

          I plead phat phingers on Culp.

          The Kyben Trent fought had followed him back through time from a future Earth, hence my answer. Their ‘home world’ is never disclosed.

          Senior moment on point 3. I’d forgotten about the repository and the loneliness.

          • another_steve

            Yes. I see now what you meant by “future Earth,” Furface. My apologies.

            “The confusion of language.” 😉

  • Sam_Handwich
  • popebuck1

    Kim Davis split them?!

    Dude.

    Aside from clinical insanity, the 2016 Republican presidential field has NOTHING in common.

  • Ninja0980

    Here’s the only point that matters, even if they don’t agree with Kim Davis, the kind of judges they would appoint would.
    Republicans are NOT our allies, period.

  • billbear1961

    May the sword of JUSTICE descend on this party of sellouts and fanatics, the wanton disciples of Mammon, whores, grifters, seditionists, TRAITORS!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUTByW8NElo

    Those who fail to defend, vigorously and without a moment’s hesitation, the Rule of LAW in a FREE society are utterly DEVOID of ANY legitimate authority!

    They are the enemy within, the republic’s bosom serpent!

  • TexPlant

    not to mention the gals working the golden Corral lunch line

    • Octavio

      They’ve been spitting in the macaroni and cheese tray.

      • Tor

        FUKIT!!! love mac n cheese!

  • Sam_Handwich

    the onion published a “Who is Kim Davis?” score card…

    Nickname: Kimmers
    Full Name: Not going to be signed for just anybody
    Christian Denomination: Apoplectic
    Occupation: Still weighing offers from every conservative news outlet and political group
    Work Style: Unconstitutional
    Primary Goal: Protect sanctity of traditional homophobia
    Commitment To Loving Her Neighbor: Court-ordered
    Stance On State Regulation Of Short-Term Vacation Rentals: Unstated
    Job Security: A lot better than most Americans
    Number Of Presidential Candidates Currently Vying For Her Endorsement: Don’t ask
    2014 Campaign Promise To Rowan County Voters: Turn unassuming government office into embarrassing international spectacle in less than year’s time
    Sneaks In Some Secular Music Now And Then: Despite her better judgment
    Last Time You Will Have To Hear About Her: November 8, 2016
    http://www.theonion.com/article/who-kim-davis-51306

  • I don’t get it. Why are there fence sitters? Republicants are usually the first to plop their asses on one side of a line or the other.

  • CaliforniaDude

    I love that the homophobes have lost all their influence! What a difference 4 years makes! This is fantastic! Taste the RAINBOW Brian Brown and Tony Perkins. It tastes delish!

  • Will

    I notice that the ones who fully support Kim Davis are the ones at the bottom of the Republican pack with no chance of the nomination whatsoever and percentages in the single digits.

  • sfleetucker

    Oh the delicious irony were this to become a “wedge issue” in the favor of the liberals.

  • JCF

    I think this thread needs an “Infighting is Funny” tag!

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    Kim Davis, the left’s secret weapon against the GOP.

    http://up.botstudent.net/2011/03/divide-and-conquer.jpg