KENTUCKY: Heavily Armed “Christian Patriot” Militia Vows To Stop Future Arrests Of Kim Davis [AUDIO]

The Oath Keepers, the heavily armed and self-described “Christian patriot” militia who recently appeared in Ferguson, Missouri to “help” the police quell civil unrest, will be on the other side of the law in Kentucky where they have vowed to prevent federal marshals from ever arresting Kim Davis again. Right Wing Watch reports:

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes announced yesterday that he had reached out to Davis’ lawyers at Liberty Counsel to offer the protection of his group, which he says is already forming a presence in Rowan County, Kentucky, where Davis was recently released from jail after prohibiting her office from issuing marriage licenses. Rhodes said in a statement that his position has nothing to do with gay marriage, but rather his conviction that Davis had been illegally detained by the federal judge who held her in contempt for violating multiple court orders.

In a phone call with Jackson County, Kentucky, Sheriff Denny Peyman and other local Oath Keepers activists, Rhodes said that he was on his way to Kentucky to help with the Davis operation. Although the group had originally intended to picket outside the home of the judge who held Davis in contempt, he said, they had changed their plan when she was released on Tuesday. Rhodes said that the Rowan County sheriff should have blocked U.S. Marshals from detaining Davis, but since neither the sheriff nor the state’s governor will do their “job” and “intercede” on behalf of Davis, the Oath Keepers will have to do it instead.

Rhodes claims that Oath Keepers are already on the scene in Kentucky and that more are on the way.

RELATED: During last year’s Bundy Ranch standoff with federal marshals, the Oath Keepers stationed snipers on a nearby overpass.
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  • DaveMiller135

    Awwww. Our own private ISIS.

    • LonelyLiberal

      That makes Kim our Own Private ISIS-ho.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        I see what you did there.

        https://youtu.be/n7t7cGwN7_0

        • gaymex

          lol…what a statement Lonely Liberal. Perfect.
          …and Rebecca…music’s right on.

        • b

          Living in their own private Idaho. They are so drunk on bigotry that they do not have listening capacity. Kim Davis: back in jail. YEEEEE HAAAA!

          • Officer McGinty

            Drunk on bigotry..Brilliant phrase!!

          • sljfkslkdfj

            waiter, another bigotini please

          • frost35112

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          • Dale Edmonds

            keep this fucking shit to yourself asshole…..

        • Dagoril

          Awww, Hell! The Devil’s in Kim’s car!

          • Muad’dib

            You KNOW someone has done some “reckless driving” on Kim’s “Dirty Back Road”.

      • geoffalnutt

        This is impossibly brilliant!!!! I have to lie down.

      • another_steve

        Possibly — just possibly — the most clever thing posted to The Internets today.

      • JR

        There is no way I can top that. I’m not gonna even try.

        Well done, you! *applause* 🙂

      • TreGibbs

        ^^^ FTW!

      • Megrim Twist

        Get out of the state you’re in!

      • matt n

        but she’s been forgiven by god now that she’s converted to christianity from a southern baptist.

      • Blake J Butler

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      • Rand503

        Of course it isn’t about being anti-gay. Half these guys are blowing each other in the woods, and the other half are doing mutual masturbation.

        IF Davis were smart, she would politely tell these guys no. (I know she isn’t!). Because if she ends up in contempt again, and these guys come in to rescue her, where are they going to take her? She won’t be able to go home, or to work. They will basically make her a fugitive and live in the woods with them for the rest of her life.

        She is too mighty and proud to give up all this fame and fortune just to live boys on a scouts camping trip but with beer and babes.

        • Michael L. Hoenig

          In reality, when they start blasting away with their penis extensions, she’ll be in the line of fire and/or the crossfire; so she’ll be on her way to meet her god, which is exactly what makes martyrs.

          And I say, good riddance to the bigoted ¢ûńī.

          • Lynn Scott

            only a man would use the c word….how dare you

          • Dale Edmonds

            it stands for “Can’t Understand Normal Thinking”

          • Lynn Scott

            no, it does not

          • Slaytanic

            yes it does..take yourself for example….t…wait for it…….

          • Lynn Scott

            that would be a man’s definition just so he can use the word

          • Slaytanic

            you let a word control your emotions. If i got all bent out of shape every time I was called an asshole I wouldn’t be able to stand myself.

          • Supa-D

            Asshole is better. it’s gender neutral. So don’t be a dick.

          • Slaytanic

            they are synonymous. It seems as if you can’t understand normal thinking as well.

          • LAguy323

            see you next Tuesday

          • Gilad

            Plenty of women use that word especially against other women they don’t like

          • Lynn Scott

            true. doesn’t make it right but its a woman on a woman. when a man says/uses the word, that’s a whole different story…and very wrong

          • Tom

            I think the whole point is if anything, at all, depends on what gender it originates from and to what gender receives it as to a different act for each target and recipient, all equality arguments are nullified. It’s all or nothing. And any other argument down that lane is hypocrisy.

          • Philip Marks

            OTOH it was, after all, intended to be a huge insult, so maybe it is exactly he right word to use. Personally I prefer idiot or lackwit. More elegant.

          • LAguy323

            are you attempting to create rules about who call be called a “cùnt” and by whom?

          • Aurora

            serously? ummmm no. good try Lynn … but no. With your logic … it’s the same as saying only mentally challenged can use the “R” word and only blacks can use the “N” word … don’t be a blonde. with that said … Kim Davis is … with out a doubt … a bigoted ‘C’.

          • jpk

            Can I use it on another man? And what about variations on the word? Like, “Donald Trump is such a cuntwaffle.” (I actually think “twatwaffle” has a better ring to it, but it seems less pointed somehow.)

          • Philip Marks

            But women I know say that it is a huge insult regardless of whether it is done by a man or a woman, However a huge insult might be the intent. OTOH men do not mind being called dicks, dickheads, dickwads, cunts, etc. because they like all those things. In fact they call themselves those things.

          • Lynn Scott

            it is a HUGE insult no matter who says it…but men not minding being called those names? maybe boys, like 12 years old? i’ve never heard grown men talk to each other like that….

          • Robo

            Someone call this c#nt a whambulance.

          • LAguy323

            Well, you’ve never been to England then. Calling a guy a “cùnt” is like saying, “idiot” or “doofus”

          • Christian Simmons

            wow you’re an uptight annoying cvnt :/

          • jj a

            Men don’t care about words. Only boys and little girls take words to heart and give them so much power.

          • Robert Arco

            Lynn Scott..you have every right to be offended. Especially in a country that has become so upside down that even our own flag gives offense. How messed up is that? I don’t even know why I am posting here since the people here seem to the 12 year olds you speak of.

          • Sern

            Do you know anyone outside of the USA? In most every other English speaking country the C word is used quite a bit.

          • LAguy323

            In the UK, men call each other that all the time. Females do not own it as an insult.

          • Supa-D

            Well then those men are being dicks.

          • LAguy323

            They have dicks, but they’re being cúnts.

          • Glen

            Indeed, what’s wrong with cûnt? Some women, generally far-left-wing radical feminists, happen to be cunts.

            Just like some men are dicks or cocks, or the classic and oh so common schmuck (Yiddish for penis).

            Now nobody likes being called these things, however only certain women seem to take offense at the genitalia based nature of the insult. It’s like ALL about the genitalia with them.

            You get this same offense taken from the radical feminists when you call someone a pussy (an insult for being scared), which derives from pussycat, an animal that is well known for being skittish and scared of things.

          • Glen

            And holy FUCK Joe My God. Seriously dude What the fuck!

            The only word I’ve now found to be censored on JMG is cûnt.
            That’s incredibly misogynistic (and misandrist). I find the radical feminists and those who cow to them to be the most misogynistic people out there.

          • Glen

            You know what’s weird though is that while cûnt is censored, cunts is not. 😀

          • Dana Lea

            Get a grip, lady. Lots of women use the word. I’m thinking of using it right now. How dare he? I picture you in a pillbox hat gripping your little clasp purse to your chest … get over yourself. It’s a descriptive word that is perfectly used in this instance because Kim Davis is a COLOSSAL “see you next tuesday!”

          • Lynn Scott

            i never said women don’t use it…i said its a word that should not be used…like the b word but its worse. kim davis is a hypocrite and a law breaker who should still be in jail, not working collecting her 80K a year salary.

          • Laura Massa Meyer

            Lynn, I moved from Virginia to the UK and they use it here all the time. Its basically a low level swear like, as you say, the ‘b’ word. Its often used to banter with friends. It may be very wrong to you, but you have to allow for differences in cultures and backgrounds that may be different from your own.

          • Robo

            It’s a descriptive term that’s entirely appropriate for some women.

          • LAguy323

            entirely appropriate for some people. Don’t be such a cùnt.

          • terribletwos

            Oh and she is a “b” word too. Thanks for reminding me.

          • billpayor

            She did, and would continue to, collect her 80K a year whether in jail or not, until the next election.

          • Kimdavissucksballs

            But… she is a čunī

          • ænəræk

            Its encouraging to see that no matter how noble or worthy the cause, that it won’t stop its supporters from fighting among themselves over something petty. Good Job everyone

          • JustAnotherVoice

            While I despise the ‘c’ word, it’s best to ignore its usage in this type of forum. You only rile people up when you try to scold someone for using it.

          • terribletwos

            From a woman, she is that and more given her history.

          • ¢ûńī? Whatever is the matter with you, I don’t even know what a ¢ûńī is, yet you’re taking offence?

          • ænəræk

            I agree with you, but it’s irrelevant

          • Amber Lightfoot

            I simply couldn’t help it…I had to get involved in this discussion. The perfect pic showed up today on a friend’s FB post. I’m sharing it here. To me it stands for: Can’t Understand Normal Thinking!

          • Robo

            So original.

        • Lynn Scott

          and give up a $80K a year salary

          • bourgeoisie scum

            the kitchen, is that way ———>

          • Slaytanic

            bet she can make one hell of a sammy!

        • dhj

          In all fairness she did tell the Oath keepers that they essentially wanted nothing to do with their group and didn’t need their protection. Her and her lawyer publicly said that. They are trying to distance themselves from them.

        • dhj

          Citation from Oath Keepers own website, although they are trying to make the refusal of their offer seem nicer than it was .. http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/kim-davis-legal-team-declines-oath-keepers-offer-to-protect-her-against-unlawul-arrrest/

      • Yo’s Lemons

        HAHA good one!

      • Leslie Arnett

        Gus ain’t gonna like that! LOL

    • TampaZeke

      On-ward Chris-tian ChrI-I-I-I-SIS, mar-ching as to-o war…
      With the cross, and AK-47, of JEEEE-ZUS, march-ing on be-fore!

      All together now!

      • Nic Peterson

        Hear, hear Zeke. While this little bit of reality based entertainment has been, until now, a predictable mash up of right wing nonsense played out with the usual suspects and guest starring some unfortunate white trash; the introduction of gun toting white trash means that it’s time for DHS to step in.

        • Now, now, the DHS is too busy raiding gay escort agencies.

      • JT

        Make that KKKriSStian.

    • Jeffrey

      Absolutely. I’m pissed that we won’t call Christian terrorists what they are in this country.

      • Bad Tom

        This situation may change that.

        • Gene

          Even if there is not bloodshed…this is a stated threat to the safety of American law enforcement officers.
          even if NOTHING happens, its ALREADY a form of terrorism, and it should be Dealt with. NOW.
          “I am armed and I wont let the officers do their job” is VERY close to sedition, indeed, it may BE sedition, but I am not a lawyer and am not sure

          • Kelly Lape

            It’s not sedition until they’ve been charged and convicted. It is only alleged sedition until the conviction.

            I however will openly accuse them of sedition. It’s time we demand justice. It’s time to demand the prosecution of “Christian” Terrorists.

          • Wayne McIntosh

            It’s time we demand prosecution of perverts!

          • Kelly Lape

            I couldn’t agree more. Perverting the lords message of love to use as a weapon is a global threat. It doesn’t matter what religion the terrorist follows, I can think of no greater threat to humanity than the simple idea “believe in God the way you’re told, or else”

          • Peter_FairMarket

            Why, what did you do that’s so perverted?

          • Hank Smith

            How’s that working out for you so far?

          • teedofftaxpayer

            And the Republicans complain about the “Black Matters” group being a threat to law enforcement.

          • Lynn Scott

            true, so true

          • Storbritannien_Dansker

            I’m a lawyer. This would be considered an act of Sedition, but as Kelly Lape wisely informed you Sedition must be decided by a Court Trial. Given the region this could be tricky to find 12 jurors capable of providing a Verdict without implications of prejudice. If this is handled by a District Court Trial (highly likely) the outcome could be on the Federal Level. I am personally extremely concerned for the couples that have been able to receive their licences during the Clerk’s legal imprisonment.

            Has the Governor and the KY Legislature begin the changes to their Marriage Licences that do not require the hypocrite’s name on these Legal Documents? Since they have been already issued without her presence inside the Clerk’s Office does she intend to force her subordinates to refuse to break the Law?

          • Julian (UK)

            KY Legislature! EEK!

          • Phil Armond

            Julian, you certainly know your KY

          • dhj

            The law actually wasn’t broken. It’s unenforceable. A federal law that just says “gays can get married”. Which is a states right to begin with, it’s 100% unconstitutional for the feds to mingle with state matters. When they illegally added the law, they gave absolute no instructions on how to carry it out, just “gays can get married”. I think the law will ultimately get shut out and reverted back to the state. It really does have nothing to do with people’s right to get married, it’s the way they carried it out . No one was protesting when states were going against their own laws and illegally offering gay marriage licences, people celebrated their bravery, it’s a state matter point blank. She didn’t break any laws at all. If you take the political emotion out of the equation and look at it from a purely legal standpoint, it’s as clear as it can be. But it’s an emotionally charged issue and that clouds everyone’s perception of the law.

          • Brandi Inskip

            she broke the law when she refused to issue marriage licences after being court ordered on multiple occasions to do so.

          • dhj

            But that law isn’t valid. Can’t enforce a law that is illegal. It’s a state issue, federal government should have nothing to do with it.

          • I think I see where you’re confused there, dhj. There is no law that allows gay folks to get married. It can’t be valid ofr invalid–it simply doesn’t exist. Now, all of those laws that said gay folk couldn’t get married, all of those laws were ruled to be in violation of the Constitution by the Supreme Court. That’s the job our founding fathers gave the the Supreme Court, they did their job, and that’s the way things are.

            When a county clerk somewhere decides she’ll only give out marriage licenses to people she deems worthy, she is, in fact, creating a religious requirement people have to meet to get basic government services.

            That’s a whole lot closer to creating a new law than anything else, and she doesn’t have that power. In fact, since she represents the government in these situation, you could fairly argue that she is violating the 1st amendment rights of every person she turns away on religious grounds. That’s not just illegal, it’s downright scary.

            Because I’m an American citizen, i have the right to live my faith as I see fit without some government politician saying what I can or can’t do because I don’t believe the same as they do. That kind of nonsense might work in Muslim countries, but it sure doesn’t work in the USA.

          • dhj

            Now THAT I can agree with. Wholeheartedly. The law never needed to be passed to begin with. And gay’s should have been able to marry anyway. But states interpreted it as they saw fit (right or wrong) based (usually) on a vote. I’d have to side with the state, and since there was such an uproar about it, base it on the voice of the people in that particular state. But certainly I agree with your overall statement no doubt

          • You misunderstand me, sir. No law making gay marriage legal was ever passed so it doesn’t make a lick of sense to say that there is a new law.

            The question was simple, “do state laws that offer marriage benefits to some but not others violate citizens’ rights under the constitution?”

            It’s a tough question with not much agreement. Luckily, the founding fathers built a system into the constitution to address tough questions. That system went into effect; the Supreme Court decided, and like it or not, the question of state laws vs citizen rights when it comes to marriage was answered.

            The system did its job. Not everyone will agree, but the Constitution wasn’t designed to make everyone happy. Fighting against this or trying to uphold those old state laws is really fighting against the Constitution.

            For me the Constitutuon comes first, even if–especially if I happen to disagree with something.

          • AZSDFT

            The sitting PRESIDENT has violated the 1st Amendment, by saying that nobody has the right to protest within 500 yards of where he or the VP are speaking! He has also said it is illegal to voice ones own opinion about the Muslim Culture (it is NOT a Religion) He has violated the 2nd Amendment by limiting firearms on his own accord,. He has broken the Laws of the Constitution by making deals with Iran without approval of Legislative Branch of the United States Government! When will HE be arrested?

            MY point in all this is that it STARTS at the TOP of Government and spreads like the plague. but nobody at the top is held accountable.

            What do we do when people want to be a polygamist? oops! there already ARE some, and by some law(?) it’s illegal? WHY? Says who? If it’s their desire, and say it’s their religious belief…….

          • Glen

            You are BEYOND confused. Get educated.

            In any case why would you say that Islam (the Muslim religion) is not a set of unfounded unsubstantiated imaginary fantasy beliefs that are fervently held and acted upon despite a complete lack of evidence and often in the face of contradictory evidence. (aka Religion).

          • AZSDFT

            Even Muslims say it isn’t about Religion, it is considered “Total Society Control” Food, Education, Banking, attire, Laws, Punishments for things you have no control over. Man rapes woman, woman gets stoned. Hows that work? Every aspect of their life is controlled by Islam. THAT isn’t religion, that’s Cult sickness mentality.

          • Glen

            Religion – Cult. Two sides of the same coin.

            Christians said and did the very same things themselves once upon a time; the very same things that the theocratic Muslims do today. It’s what happens when you give religion control.

            When you give a belief system that is not founded in reason, rationality, logic or evidence, the ability to make the rules and control society.

            This is why our founders were quite smart (and having been students of history) to set up a system of governance that maintained a wall of separation between church and state.

            I believe like most Christians, most Muslims are good decent people. However they are ensconced in an evil ideology and/or practice. Yes even the good lovey-dovey Christians and Muslims are participating in the foundations of evil; blind fervent belief in that for which there is no evidence.

            As my favorite quote says : “With or without religion you would have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, THAT takes religion.

          • MaxMan

            “Man rapes woman, woman gets stoned. Hows that work?”
            Read Deuteronomy 22, numbskull.

            “There is NO such thing as a “Moderate Muslim””

            I’ve met loads, so you’re talking out your anus.

            You must have been “PLENTY educated” by goats.

          • terribletwos

            Where in the hell do you get your legal knowledge?

          • dhj

            from the laws we have. When this whole thing started happening, I set any biases aside and looked at it from the strict letter of the law as opposed to my own viewpoints. There are many many judges that believe the exact same thing, I would argue they probably get their legal knowledge from some pretty good sources. This issue would go away if people would simply look, research and not allow the media or emotions dictate the law for us, and look at it ourselves.

          • Peter_FairMarket

            A state law that violates the Constitution is invalid and therefore unenforceable.

          • AZSDFT

            The JUDICIAL BRANCH of the Government DOES NOT MAKE LAWS. Neither does the Executive Branch. That is the work of the….. anybody? CORRECT! LEGISLATIVE Branch! Just because a Judge said something doesn’t make it LAW.

            Now let me ask you this, what about the JUDGE that said they weren’t going to perform the Ceremonies? When is HE getting locked up?

            What about all the Senators and Congressmen that have not performed their duties in accordance with the LAWS OF THE CONSTITUTION? When do THEY get locked up? They all were elected! So is the Judge!

          • Philip Marks

            They didn’t have to tell the states HOW to do it, do it the same way you do for straight couples. If she doesn’t want to follow the law about how to issue licenses (and she was denying straight couples too — they sued her too) she should just resign. No conflict. 117 other KY Clerks figured it out. Thousands and thousands nationwide have managed.

          • dhj

            They couldn’t tell the states to do it at all. It’s illegal. It’s a state issue, not a federal one. The federal government broke the law by taking the states rights away from them and making it federal. This will get reverted. People have been talking about it since it happened about the legality of it. It’s cut and dry. She can’t deny straight couples since that was a state law, but she has a duty to deny anything else to be in compliance with state law.

          • Philip Marks

            OK not going to argue that. I will state what the Supreme Court found:

            The Constitution is superior to state law,

            The Constitution says to treat people equally and if you don’t you have to show there is a good reason.

            The states could not show that in exercising their rights to manage matters of marriage they had no reason that stood up to any examination for their different treatment of LGBT people.

            Therefore to the extent that state laws prevented or restricted or treated differently marriage for LGBT people those laws are unconstitutional and to that extent only they are invalid.

            The portions of the laws about how to issue a license or record one that don’t differentiate are those left in effect.

            LGBT people must be treated the same as non-LGBT people under these laws.

          • terribletwos

            Federal law trumps ANY state law.

          • dhj

            Believe it or not, I’m not taking up for her actions. But technically, legally, It’s completely 100% unenforceable. I personally would have just issued everything as would most people. But she is standing up for what she believes, and for what legally is correct.

          • Philip Marks

            Well I guess you are wrong because it HAS BEEN enforced. So 100% unenforceable? I don’t thinks so.

          • dhj

            Legally enforceable.

          • Philip Marks

            OK the COURTS not you decide what is lawful. The COURTS have decided this IS lawful and the what she has done is illegal. She challenged it in the COURTS and they have RULED and their ruling is being enforced because the LAW is settled. End of story.

            You can go on and on about your opinion about how this is illegal, but it is about as meaningful as me protesting the outcome of the 1956 Suez crisis. It may keep me occupied but it makes no difference at all.

            The process our society uses to decide these things has been completed. I suggest you see my comment to you a few messages down this thread in which I detail point by point the basis on which this IS a Federal case and it WAS resolved under the Constitution, by the Judicial Branch.

            If you wish to do it differently, amend the Constitution.

          • dhj

            Sorry I have offended you Philip.

          • Justin

            Saying it is legally correct? I’m pretty sure what is legally correct is following the orders given from a judge, not forcing an entire office to shut down. She’s not standing up for anything, she’s hiding behind religion as an excuse to spread intolerance and hatred. This woman has been married 4 times, divorced 3, her children came from an affair with the man who became husband #3 while she was still with husband #1, she left #1 and had kids adopted by #2, left #2 for #3, left #3 to go back to #2. Tell me she knows anything about the sanctity of marriage. Tell me why she isn’t standing up to herself for breaking her religions teachings about adultery and how divorce isn’t an option, it’s until death do you part. Why does the only part of her religion she wants to “stand up” for is the part that stops other people from doing what she doesn’t agree with? Her religion obviously doesn’t stop her from doing what she wants.

          • dhj

            yeah it does, she hasn’t engaged in any of those things since she found her faith. Bringing up a persons past that has nothing to do with the issue at hand is ridiculous, she used to be a full fledged liberal as well that would have likely agreed with you 4-5 years ago.

          • Justin

            Tell me where in your religion it says force others to follow, Christians teach to show the way, and let others come of their own free will. Not force it down their throat. What she’s doing isn’t any better than what the Islamic terrorists did on 9/11 flying the planes into the towers. And you people follow a false prophet blindly just because she said it was about her religion. Think about what your religion says about following false prophets and wolves in sheeps clothing. This woman probably the most evil thing on earth right now. The Christian wanna-be ISIS group has even offered to use deadly force to fight off anyone trying to arrest her. True she turned it down, but for one minute remove your blinders about it being about religion and look at what she is creating. Also, if she’s above the law because of her religion, then so is anyone else. We treat people equally. If you allow one religion to supersede the law, then you have to allow all. So those Islamic terrorists that flew the planes into the towers that we all just remembers about the other day, oh, they weren’t terrorists, they were just following their religion. So I guess they are able to do that without fear of the government coming down on them. Right?

          • dhj

            I don’t have a religion. And what you said makes no sense in regards to what I said. So I took off my “religious blinders” a long time ago. Not sure if you replied to the wrong person or what?

          • Justin

            You’re agreeing with her based on her saying it’s about religion. Soon as she said it’s about religion, you lost any ability to reason out what was actually going on. Whether you follow it or not, you still had your religious blinders on. You still didn’t answer the other questions, tell me where in her religion it says to force her religion down others throats? Christianity teaches to show the way and allow them to come of their own free will. Is that what Kim is doing? No.

          • dhj

            I don’t think it says to force religion down people’s throats? What’s wrong with you man? I’m not agreeing with her based on religion.. Not sure where you are getting that. I lost any ability to reason because she mentioned the word religion? I can’t argue with someone that is making zero sense and making things up and coming up with assumptions. Why would you ask me specific questions about Christianity? You seem to to already know, and probably know more than I do anyway about it.

          • Justin

            I’m asking you specific questions about it because you said Kim did it for religious reasons. She’s forcing people to agree with her religion. Yet her religion teaches that’s not how you’re supposed to do things. You don’t see the hypocrisy behind that? You want to sit here and tell me what she did was out of love for her religion and a belief she was right even though she completely ignored the way her religion tells her to do it? And I’m the insane one? If you’re going to sit here and tell me you don’t know anything, why are you opening your mouth in support of her? You are blindly supporting her without any idea what’s going on. I’m not surprised you have no idea what i’m getting at, you seem to have a hard time following concepts. All I’m saying is how can it be “I’m just following what my religion says is right and wrong even though I’m doing it the way my religion says is wrong”? She’s using religion to mask intolerance and hatred and discrimination. I’ve been able to at least debate the point, all you’ve been able to do is go “duuuuuhhhh, you’re insane and make no sense”

          • dhj

            I’m defending her in the name of religion. I was defending her in the name of the law. You’re not debating or anything, your just making stuff up. You can’t debate with someone that just lies and makes things up and says that I’m saying things. I can’t answer your questions, because they make no sense. You keep bringing up religion. I never said that what she did was out of love for her religion. You are making things up. Of course I can’t debate or argue with you!

          • Justin

            You just said you were defending her in the name of religion, then you turn around and ask what religion has to do with it. And like I said, you said the law can’t force her to do what she religiously doesn’t agree with. Once again, back to the terrorist attacks. If the law can’t stop Kim from breaking it because it’s about her religion, how can it stop the terrorist attacks that were also about religion? You’re the only one lying here, and the only person that’s buying it is yourself with your smaller than your shoe size IQ. Ignorance is bliss i guess.

          • Justin

            I haven’t made anything up, you contradict your own statements even within the same reply. You’re only debate is I make no sense because you have no answer and just like every other idiot out there, when you run out of excuses, you resort to insults.

          • dhj

            If you don’t mind, could you point out anywhere that I hurt your feelings, or insulted you.

            I think you may have mistaken me for you the only insults I’ve seen are from you. Being the big bad internet grande juevos guy

          • Justin

            You’ve called me insane and offered no other argument other than that what I offered up for debate was senseless rambling. I suppose from your high horse you would be unable to see where you were insulting. I on the other hand, only treated you the way you treated me. Remove your head from your rectum please before speaking further and continuing to prove your lack of intelligence.

          • dhj

            Cool, so I never insulted you. You can’t point out anything other than insulting me for saying I didn’t insult you.

          • Justin

            Pretty sure I just said you insulted me. Thank you for once again proving that you’re completely oblivious to what’s being said.

          • dhj

            Because you said it, it makes it true. What a blowhard internet wannabe bully you are. Ridiculous.

          • Justin

            No because insults are about the way what you said was taken, it has nothing to do with how you intended. What a basement dwelling fat moron you are. Pathetic. Go cry to your mom after you finish blowing your dad to pay rent.

          • Justin

            So by your own admission nothing I said was insulting, it only is because you said it is, so what are you still crying for?

          • dhj

            As you’re telling me to “blow my father”. Yeah brutha, mature you are!

          • Justin

            Truth hurts huh? Cry more please.

          • dhj

            not enough need more. I’m not crying hard enough yet. I need more tears.

          • dhj

            I’ll be back in a couple hours. I expect to see some more witty insults when I get back son.

          • Justin

            Time to earn your rent for the night before your dad passes out huh?

          • Micheal Swan

            Maybe you should, at least it would keep your mouth full for a while.

          • dhj

            When all else fails, start saying things that make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Confuse the enemy, make stuff up, lie about em. Good work sir

          • Justin

            The pot calling the kettle black, all you’ve done all day is make stuff up, play stupid (sorry, you’re probably not playing) and cry because insults got hurled at you after you began hurling them. Cry like the little bitch you are.

          • dhj

            lol You can’t stop replying.

          • Justin

            And why haven’t you then since you’re making such progress? Oh that’s right, because you’re a butthurt little basement dweller who only thrill in life is attempt to have the last word on the internet.

          • dhj

            yes! Come on, I know you got more than that. Let’s hear some more.

          • Justin

            Keep crying, your tears sustain me.

          • dhj

            can we get more? I think you can squeeze out a couple more, I’ve got faith in you.

          • Justin

            Still proving how intelligent you are by not being able to think of anything to say huh?

          • Justin

            Come on keep talking shit you little bitch, or we can just step out from the computers and settle this in the streets. Course you won’t because all you got is words on the web.

          • dhj

            Got some more? C’mon, let’s hear some more witty insults! Always interesting to hear how teenagers talk nowadays.

          • dhj

            Typo, sorry, I mean “I’m Not” I think you knew that also. I’m done with you. Other people are being reasonable, you’re the definition of straw man arguments.

          • Justin

            LOL way to bring up another thing you obviously know nothing about. I’m sorry, is your 4th grade playground bully ego so bruised that all you can do is go cry? Other people might be reasonable, I’m being far less unreasonable and blind than you. When you remove your head from your ass and see more than your own shit try debating again, until then enjoy the cry.

          • Micheal Swan

            Once again: IGNORANCE. It’s all about her love for her new found religion and the rhetoric that has been ingrained in her head. If you are going to debate at least be informed.

          • dhj

            Again I am not religious at all. I have no clue where you are getting these things at, or that I have religious blinders on, when I don’t even follow religion..

          • Micheal Swan

            My personal thought is you just have no clue.

          • Mark Elsbernd

            Kim wants to keep that 80,000 a year job. they are few and far between in that part of kentucky!

          • Justin

            Lol she’s just like the rest of America now, wants to keep getting paid for a job she doesn’t do! You’d think if she wants to keep her job she’d just shut up and do it.

          • Justin

            Its funny how you want to try to argue, but only answer the questions that fit with the argument you want to use. I can make any argument sound true by ignoring half the facts too.

          • dhj

            What biblical question do you want me to answer and I will look it up for you. Does that work?

          • dhj

            I’m not ignoring any facts though..

          • dhj

            And you really think that what this woman is doing is the same as killing almost 3000 people in the World Trade Center attacks? That’s insane.

          • Justin

            You do realize you’re posting on a post about an armed militia that was mobilizing to keep federal marshals from arresting her by any means necessary right? Also it is the same, her argument is about religion superseding the law and it being ok to not follow the law if you don’t feel it’s right. So how is that not the same?

          • dhj

            yes it is different. How dare you compare the people that lost their lives in 911 to some crazy lady in KY.

          • Micheal Swan

            ter .ror .ism : the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. noun
            She used her political position to intimidate based on her skewed religious beliefs and the militia uses violence to pursue theirs.

          • dhj

            He compared to 911. If you really think this is the same as 3000 people being murdered you have more issues than the one you’re posting one.

          • dhj

            what militia?

          • Micheal Swan

            Either you live under a rock or you can’t read. You have to be one of the most ignorant people I have had the displeasure of speaking with.

          • dhj

            Still didn’t answer my question. What militia? Call me names and have fun and act immature all you want, but you’re acting like that other guy in here. Try having a little bit of respect.

          • Micheal Swan

            Go back to the article at the TOP of this page. Very explicit and precise. Quite frankly I and the others that you have made the same comment to about being immature seems to be a re-occurring theme with you. It’s very difficult to discuss something when you are totally uninformed. And by the way: respect is something that is earned.

          • dhj

            The militia that isn’t there?! that fucking militia. Get off your fucking liberal fucking high horse and learn how to talk to people. Fucking act like a goddamn child. Fucking pussy motherfucker. sack of fuck. I would beat your fucking ass, and fuck the dog shit out of you for talking to me like that if you weren’t hiding behind a screen. Pussy mother fucker. Cocksucking fuck

          • dhj

            who’s uninformed now bitch? There is no militia out there, at least not the one at the top of the page. Fucking disrespectful asshole.

          • Glen

            They share the same root motivations.

            Unquestioned unmitigated unswayable religious fervency.

            Wherein religious means unfounded unsubstantiated unevidenced imaginary fantasy believes that one holds with deep conviction and believes they are working on the side of an all powerful ruler and creator of the universe who has their eternal immortal souls in his hands as to whether they are tortured for eternity or spend eternity in paradise.

          • dhj

            I agree. But I still very much so doubt that her God is commanding her to murder thousands of people in the name Jesus.

          • southwillsink

            This is the USA. We have a system of government. It has functioned and ordered Kim to issue marriage licenses to anyone who applies regardless of gender. The highest court in the land has made a decision. All of the appeals are exhausted. Our secular government was formed to have a separate church and state. Nothing in our constitution would allow her to function as a representative of government and not separate her religious views from her duties as a government official.

            This issue is settled legally. It’s now a matter of publicity for certain groups and Kim trying to keep her income while not performing her duties.

          • dhj

            Everyone here is acting on emotions. No one is actually looking at from an informed legal standpoint. You’re pretending to. This has nothing to do with church or whatever, it’s purely what is lawful and what is not. So what that she happens to be a Christian. Talk to some actual lawyers, listen to all sides of an argument. You’re just blindly following whatever liberal viewpoints. Get away from the party system, use your own research. The issue is not settled at all legally. There wouldn’t be so many articles and arguments and debate about it if it everything was said and done. You probably think Michael Brown was an upstanding person that didn’t deserve to be shot also I’m guessing. Blind liberals/blind republicans. Opposing views will not be tolerated here.

          • southwillsink

            She is flat out wrong. It’s her behavior that is the problem. Preaching her religious beliefs to citizens that wish to avail themselves of county services would be wrong, but actually denying those services is discrimination. All of us grown ups understand this. No need for a JD.

            Support for Kim is a demonstration of a religious opinion. It’s not possible to debate religion with a believer. One thing for sure, religion belongs in church or home, not in the county offices. If you want to be a religious supporter, go to her church.

          • Micheal Swan

            Whether she refused the Oath Keepers help or not they already have ‘boots on the ground’ as they say.

          • Micheal Swan

            I disagree with you on that point. I can almost guarantee no matter how liberal you think she was 4 or 5 years ago you would be hard pressed to find many people in Kentucky that would condone gay marriage.

          • Phil Armond

            Well said!

          • dhj

            In all seriousness, take the emotion out of it, and look at it from a purely 100% legal standpoint.

          • Philip Marks

            I don’t think my answer was emotional. Not a bit and it was pretty much ALL about the legal standpoint, so I am puzzled by your comment.

          • dhj

            I wasn’t talking to you specifically I was speaking about all of us, me included. Sorry man, didn’t mean for it to come out that way.

          • cascadian12

            The 100% legal standpoint is “don’t discriminate.” PERIOD.

          • Kelly Lape

            My ancestors fought a war in the middle of the 19th century to dispel the notion of “States Rights” — There is no legal standpoint.

          • terribletwos

            Are you a lawyer?

          • dhj

            I am not. But it would behoove everyone to have a good understanding of the law.

          • Peter_FairMarket

            The Fourteenth Amendment guarantees everyone equal protection under the law. When the states passed racial discrimination and anti-miscegenation laws, the Fourteenth Amendment overrode that. This is the same situation.

          • dhj

            but it’s not.. again that was discussed when states were trying to pass prop 8 and failed on most of em. “oh that didn’t work, we’ll make it a federal thing”.

          • James Grimes

            I’m curious… since the National Government got into the marriage business (the 10th Amendment forbids that) will they also rule on divorces and separations? They opened a can of worms – rule on one part and be responsible fore the rest. Good luck.

          • Glen

            You’re utterly wrong.

            First, the Supreme Court did not make a ‘gay marriage’ law. They extended existing marriage law to those couples who happen to be of the same gender, by striking down the unconstitutional gender restrictions on which couples who are entitled to get married under existing State marriage laws.

            There doesn’t need to be any instruction on how to carry out ‘gay marriages’. The laws already cover the only thing there is… marriages. Nothing of any substance changed in any of the laws. Only the gender restriction on what citizens can avail themselves of those laws has been removed. Again, found to be an unconstitutional restriction and thus declared to be NULL and VOID.

            What do you mean nobody was protesting when some jurisdictions (or clerks) were violating their gender-restrictive marriage laws and handing out marriage licenses to same-gender couples. The anti-gay religious nuts were protesting this. And when the courts ordered them to stop doing this, they obeyed and stopped. On the other hand, Kim Davis DID break the law when she refused to obey a court order. That is Contempt of Court and she was found guilty of it by the judge.

            The difference with the clerks that were handing out marriage licenses to same-gender couples is that the Supreme Court had yet to rule on this, and so those clerks were obeying the highest law of the land the U.S. Constitution (turns out they were right too). Whereas the Supreme Court has already spoken on the marriage issue, and even her appeal to be exempted from issuing them, when they turned down her request for appeal and let stand the lower court ruling that she is required to issue these licenses.

          • dhj

            Who went to jail? I don’t recall there being a big media uproar and governors that refused the wishes of the people when prop 8 failed to pass and they went ahead and did it anyway. It was up to the states, when prop 8 failed to garner enough votes in most places they simply demanded it federally. So it’s states rights, as long as the vote fits those in powers views, if it doesn’t the federal government will take over and just demand it. Nobody see’s anything wrong with that? Forget the gay marriage thing. People are actually in favor of the fed taking over states rights?

          • Glen

            Can you name any illegal thing that was done that would have put someone in jail who was on the side of same-gender marriage equality.

            Some people ignored their state laws under the auspices that the U.S. Constitution (the highest law of the land) allowed for same-gender couples to marry. They were RIGHT. And so were not violating the law,as those laws were in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Still when ordered by the courts to stop issuing same-gender marriage licenses, guess what they did…. they stopped!

            In Ms. Davis’s case, the Supreme Court had already spoken. Not only on the right of same-gender couples to be equally entitled to State marriage licenses, but also in letting stand the court order she was under to issue those licenses as County Clerk of Rowan county. She defied the courts orders. And so she not only WAS in contempt of court, she was found to BE in contempt of court, and was placed in jail for her contempt, as is the law and a judge’s legal prerogative.

          • dhj

            Why did anyone even bother with prop 8 then?

          • Glen

            You’ve made several statements here which suggest that you don’t particularly understand what Prop 8 is (or was).

            Prop 8 was the ballot referendum in California which altered the California State Constitution in order to strip the marriage rights, the California Supreme Court ruled that same-gender couples had, away from gay couples.

            Why did they bother with it? Because the people often are misled into believing, or think they may as well try, to deny Constitutional rights to their fellow citizens who they may not favor all that much for whatever reasons (all too often religious reasons or plain ignorance).

            Legislators do this too.

            It’s the courts role to ensure this sort of thing does not occur in opposition to the rights and guarantees that all citizens have via the U.S. Constitution.

          • dhj

            I understand certainly what Prop 8 is. Not sure where I stand on the Constitution granting the right for same sex marriages, as that was unheard of back then in the mainstream, I can’t imagine in a million years they had this is mind. My argument is that states right trump federal rights. Before the federal mandate, each state had it’s own regulations, mine was one of em that allowed gay marriage (late in the game, but they did) as well as I think around 15 other states. That is where my argument lies, is that it should be a state decision, not a federal one. I believe they redefined marriage, which is fine, but it should be up to each state. I don’t mean to argue and be hateful or anything, I think at the core most of us here are believe in people’s right to choose whomever they like. It’s just a matter of who’s hands the power to enable that belongs.

          • Glen

            The Constitution demands equal protection (equal treatment) of the written laws.

            What that means is that any law which is written must treat all citizens equally unless there is a valid rational justification for doing otherwise.

            States can write their marriage laws in any way they like. That is their right and marriage is not defined by the U.S. Constitution. But in writing those laws they can’t violate the mandates of the U.S. Constitution. One of which, as repeatedly stated, is equal treatment of their citizens under those laws, regardless of individual characteristics (like gender, race, religion, etc…) without there being a valid rational basis for that unequal treatment.

            Yes back in the 1860’s when the 14th amendment was written they would not have conceived of that meaning same-gender couples had the right to equal treatment of marriage law.

            However back then they had a significant amount of ignorance regarding what sexual orientation was and who gay people were. Not only have we learned a great deal more about those topics ( that sexual orientation is an innate unchosen characteristic of a person which is not inherently detrimental or disordered and that gay people are everyday average Americans from all walks of life – our family friends neighbors co-workers and fellow countrymen) but also the institution of marriage has changed with the status of women changing in our society and it is a union of equals rather than one in which the husband has broad control and authority over the wife.

            So what they would have conceived of is that our knowledge and understanding of these things would have changed to the point that it would be a forgone conclusion that same-gender couples are entitled to equal treatment of marriage law

          • dhj

            Great informative post. I certainly respect this opinion and tend to agree with you. Some of the people on these forums get ridiculously brutal if you have a difference of opinion. Post’s like your’s is what actually will make someone with an opposing view stop, and thing, and take the points into consideration. I appreciate the comment and of course agree with at least the second half. Makes me want go back and research things more. A+

          • Glen

            You’re welcome.

            Glad I could help shed some light on the topic in a manner that is understandable and not quite so confrontational (though I certainly do have my moments).

          • Scott Morgan

            You sound like a monkey brain too.

          • cascadian12

            You clearly don’t understand what the Supreme Court does. They (as they did with inter-racial marriages in the past) are saying that states cannot discriminate under the “equal protection of the law” clause in the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution. That’s all they have to say. The rest is up to the states.

            As far as Kim Davis, she’s simply not doing her job and should be recalled.

          • Mike

            dhj, you are unforgivably ignorant an d everyone knows that you are using that ignorance as an excuse for your filthy, degenerate bigotry. The 14th amendment provides for equal protection under the law and that trumps state law.

            Why are your worthless moronic right wing christians too stupid to understand something so simple? I guess with you scum, any excuse to engage in your preferred brand of evil is good enough.

          • dhj

            I’m not a Christian Mike. I have no bigotry either. I am not evil neither. I am not right wing. You’re the idiotic one that refuses to look at anything because it does not support your position, and makes assumptions about people.

          • dhj

            ahh.. the ole 13 year old pre-adolescent argument, where you call people names and think it makes you a winner of an argument. Not stooping to your level. Have a great time being a bigoted make believe constitution expert.

          • dhj

            Just looked at your posting history. You seem to call everyone this. Looks like you troll articles that you don’t agree with and make bigoted remarks to everyone. Didn’t really see anything constructive posted. Just over 1600 (mostly) insults towards all people that dare to have a faith in a higher being. Regardless what it’s about. You should put your profile on private so people can’t simply look at your history and realize what it is you do.

          • dhj

            Here is a small taste (apparently just from the last couple hours) of your posting history. All nonsense insults that does nothing productive.

            Mike Aimee’ an hour ago

            You believe incorrectly. Anything else stupid top say?

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            Mike Nick Morales an hour ago

            No, it doesn’t simpleton. The most pathetic thing about worthless fools like you is the way you use a ideology rather then facts to address real issues and that simply doesn’t work.

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            Mike JSNSR 2 days ago

            That is simply false. Learn something before you speak.

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            Mike Brad F 2 days ago

            What an utterly idiotic, nonsensical (no, I won’t define it for you, go look it up) response.

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            Mike J_May 2 days ago

            Incorrect. You christian scum can believe anything you want. You can say all the ignorant, hateful crap you want and believe any stupidly false thing you want. What you can’t do, what people who are your intellectual and moral betters will stand up and oppose every time, is when you fools try to use you immoral religion as an excuse for illegal government action, like that worthless creature Kim Davis.

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            Mike Matthew Mueller 2 days ago

            Well, racism is inherent in religion and it is religious people that are the most racist. that has an effect.

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            Mike Chris Gast 2 days ago

            I would absolutely call him ignorant. he was. He was making things up and then acting as if they were true and worthy of respect. This is what christianity is founded on and it’s cultish adherents do it to this day.

          • dhj

            Some more

            submit to you, fool, that the elected official needs to follow the law not her bigoted perverted religion or quit.

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            Mike Christian Independence 2 days ago

            I asked you a question you ignorant, hateful fool. When are you going to pack up all your paltry belongings (being far too stupid to have a job) cancel your welfare and get out of this country that is too good for you and your disgusting fellow travelers?

            C’mon, you traitorous scum. put up or shut up. Stop being a typical christian conservative coward.

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            Mike Christian Independence 2 days ago

            You open with a damned lie. Liberals are entirely fact driven. You christian conservative morons base your entire life on believing things without evidence (i.e. faith) and you are arrogant enough to say that others ignore facts? Stupid hypocrite. You are clearly a person of no character or worth.

            You are ignorant of how the US government works. The Supreme Court interperts the law and the constitution. that is their job. just because you are an ignorant, backwards bigot and too stupid to understand that doesn’t change it.

            |t is against the law to secede from the union. if you weren’t an absolute moron you would know that this has been settled since the 1860’s. Like then, your hatred and bigotry are not an excuse to secede. You are a traitor to this country and you need to get out of it. You do not deserve the blessings of liberty since you are so willing to deny them to others.

            It is amusing watching fools like you talk about states rights. Your political, legal, and historical ignorance are all laughable. Federal law trumps state law. Period. End of discussion. if you don’t like it, don’t let the door hit your worthless ass on the way out of my country, scum.

            It is ironic to listen to hateful bigoted scum who want to force their hateful false religion onto their betters comparing the law restraining them from their evil to an abusive husband. Listen up, fool: You are the ones trying to force your will onto the unwilling. You are the evil ones.

            You think you can change this nation for the worse the way you want? No. You are laughable buffoons, clowns worthy only of being laughed at by your betters.

            So, you vile, traitorous scum, when will you be packing up and getting out of this country that is too good for you? never, of course. You are typical christian cowards who are nothing but talk.

          • dhj

            more…

            No, it isn’t a tomato, you bufoon. It is human tissue, which if you were better educated you would know is very different form a human being.

            Your idiotic reference to slavery is of no value. Slavery was immoral because it treated human beings as something less then that. Your anti-woman, anti-choice, pro-murder position is immoral because it treats living breathing human beings as less then that, slaves to a mindless lump of cells.

            Your mistake is that you are a mindless sheep who has absorbed the lies of religious demagogues and other fools about this issue. A fetus does not have a functioning brain until well after 20 weeks. That’s when synchronous brain waves begin. I know you don’t know what that means but to put it simply (in vain hope you will understand) they are what an EEG measures. That is the test used to determine brain death in people on life support. In those sad cases, with no brain activity, life has been tragically lost. In a fetus, which similarly lacks brain function, life has never begun. Those are the facts that I use to make my determination.

            Did you get that or must I dumb it down some more.

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            Mike Dickens10 25 days ago

            What a buffoon. Here is what is wrong with you. You make up a lie or accept from one of your shepherds (you being a sheep) and then you filter facts to accommodate your presuppositions. This is a good example. My being a “neutered progressive male” is a lie. That you made up and you expect your betters (me, for instance) to believe it. You have no evidence, no proof, yet you keep telling the lie. Now, lets do a test. Can you admit that you just made that up and it has no basis in fact, or at least that it is nothing but your baseless opinion? I can’t wait to see if you can tell the truth about anything. We both know that you lied. Can you admit it?

            Women’s rights are the only point in the issue. The only reason someone would have a problem with PP is yet another in a long line of immoral, unconstitutional attempts to deny medical care to women. The reason that you people do this is because you think a lump of cells with no brain function and is not human has rights that supersede those of an actual thinking, living human being. So, your spurious attempts to move the goalposts will not be tolerated.

            You are not educated or intelligent. If you were, you would not be part of the anti-woman, anti-choice faction. You see, your position is utterly unreasonable and ignores facts, so stop acting as if you are anything but a mindless sheep.

            You answer me because, I think, somewhere in the dim reaches of your mind you understand that I am you intellectual and moral better and if you can get me to agree with you it would boost your ego. Other then that, I can’t see why you do it because you are wrong and are not generating the reaction you describe. That is something else you made up and expect people to treat as if it had any value. I reply to you because when someone is publicly lying through their rotten teeth, it is incumbent on their betters to point it out.

          • dhj

            and more.. I can’t find anything in your posting history to suggest that you have anything of any merit to ever say. It’s all insults, every last thing you’ve ever posted is insults.

            Amazingly stupid. God does not exist, as any but the greatest of fools like you know yet their are still good people. One can tell the good from the bad by asking if they are religious. Religion means evil.

            What a ridiculous buffoon you are.

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            Mike Hominid a month ago

            Self loathing? No, moron. I loathe scum like you. I loathe scum who reject facts and science and instead use their misbegotten opinions. I loathe low life scum like you who are so idiotic they think their opinions are of any value. I loathe anti-choice, anti-woman, pro-murder filth who think they are of any value as human beings. You are subhuman filth.

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            Mike hillaryLiedAmericansDied a month ago

            In your woman hating, freedom denying, murder celebrating, ignorant, arrogant, pathetic dreams you evil piece of filth.

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            Mike hillaryLiedAmericansDied a month ago

            Hillary, your nickname is laughably stupid and false. It clearly brands you a fool not worthy of serious consideration. “Demonrat”? What an absolute fool you are.

            Abortion is mot murder. Until you admit that, nothing you say will be of any value. As long as you keep trying to force your idiocy onto others, you will never be anything but a clown and a drag on your betters.

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            Mike Hominid a month ago

            When you say “Lib-leftist” you are exposing your moronic, divisive nature. You say “anti-darwinist” as if that meant something. You indeed are a buffoon and this inane reply only makes it more clear.

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            Mike PV Maro a month ago

            What on earth are you talking about?

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            Mike Hominid a month ago

            Hominid, You are worthless trash. Your parents were worthless trash that raised nothing but ignorant inbred filth. Are you married? Did you find a diseased prostitute who wanted off the streets and was willing to lower herself to marry you? Do you have any kids? If you do and they aren’t as congenitally stupid as you are, get away from them now. The presence of filth like you is child support.

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            Mike Matthew Mueller a month ago

            You clearly do not know what the words “talking points” and “facts” mean. learn something before you open your stupid mouth.

            No unborn babies have been murdered you disgusting liar. You are unrepentant in your evil and hatred of women, aren’t you. How can you even believe you are a worthwhile member of the human race? You are a drag on humanity and a

            When was the last person murdered by one of you anti-choice, anti-woman, pro-murder zealots? Well, by ignoring assault, attempted murder and arson you knock out a LOT of incidents but we will go with simple cold blooded murder. That would be 2013. Look it up, fool. Would you like to hear about the intimidation and threats used against the children of medical professionals?

            By the way, they were health care professionals. A moron like you saying they aren’t is simply meaningless. How can you even look at yourself in the mirror?

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            Mike CruzC0ntrol a month ago

            Actually I did. You are just too stupid and brainwashed to see that. Lets see if i can simplify it enough that you can understand it.

            There is no brain function or viability before 24 weeks, That’s all their is to it.

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            Mike Dickens10 a month ago

            You accept the lies of the abnti-woman, anti-choice, pro-murder movement without checking them because if you did, you wouldn’t would know what an idiot you sound like.

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            Mike 1CatEye a month ago

            No, you silly little fool. The liars who produced the original false edit claim they did. if you believe that, you are stupid enough to believe that abortion is murder.

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            Mike hillaryLiedAmericansDied a month ago

            No, as usual, reasonable people are refusing to accept the lies of conservative christian, anti-life, anti-woman, anti-choice liars. You liars just hate the truth.

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            Mike RecoveringLibt_rd a month ago

            You are simply incorrect. Unsurprising since you are really, really dumb. The things I say represent facts and morality. You spew nothing but lies and vile evil. Grow up, child.

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            Mike Hominid a month ago

            You are a nonsensical buffoon. You make no sense.

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          • dhj

            To think you actually called me scum. Looking at the posting history, there is at least 1000 (from what I scanned over) comments by you that are trolling websites and calling everybody stupid scum. You are the moron, you are ignorant, you are the bigot. You’re history proves it. Seriously, put your profile on private if you don’t want to be found out as the scum you actually are. People like you that try to insult everyone that doesn’t 100% agree with you are the bigots. You’re worthless, you bring nothing to the table except for hate and vile spew. So far you’re batting 100% on your comments, haven’t seen anything in your history that isn’t calling people “scum” or “idiots” or whatever. That’s your game. Tiny peckered internet bravado.

          • Kelly Lape

            The Supreme Court of the UNITED STATES of America has ruled that laws regarding marriage which include gender specific codification are illegal. This ruling was based upon the idea that all people are equal under the Constitution. During the proceedings, the defendants (States which desire to discriminate) were allowed the opportunity to explain to the Court a compelling reason other than animus to deny the right of marriage based on gender identification. No cause considered just by the Court was offered.

            Therefor pursuant to the concept of Equality the Supreme Court ruled that all marriage laws remain in force, however gender specific requirements are null and void (i.e. illegal based on the US Constitution).

            To put it into simple terms if Bubba can marry Hilda but Bubba can’t marry Joe, then Bubba’s right of free association has been compromised.

          • Philip Marks

            The Legislature is not in session for many months to come, and the Gov has said he’s not going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for a special session to deal with one clerk’s complaint. If she interferes with her deputies issuing licenses she will be in jail in the blink of an eye. The judge specifically prohibited her from that in his latest order.

          • Storbritannien_Dansker

            The Governor is acting with prudent insight. Do your job or resign, just like the rest of us. She’s just an overpaid Notary Public that wanted fame, and more money.

          • Ruth Austin Ikramov

            It’s a viable threat toward law enforcement and they need to be arrested & charged

          • Robo

            They’re protecting someone’s rights as the LEOs should be doing.

          • Supa-D

            They arrested a black guy for posting a threat against cops on Twitter. Yet the white supremacists and these Oathkeepers make threats all day and not a damn thing happens. White freaking privilege.

        • Snarkaholic

          I’m sure the government is keeping an close eye on these Oaf Creepers…

          • Dale Edmonds

            nice shot…..

          • Snarkaholic

            Thank you…

          • Philip Marks

            Prime snark!

      • Gyeo

        Terrorism is okay when it’s for Jesus. Everything is okay when done for Jesus.

        • thesunnysideofthestreet

          And everything else will be forgiven by Jesus. No matter how many times you do it.

          • Rocky Ostermann

            Actually your jesus does not forgive all transgressions. Read your holy book.

          • terribletwos

            Such being?

        • JW Swift

          That’s a statement that they would probably agree with, until you turn it around and substitute Allah for Jesus, THEN it’s suddenly wrong somehow, and you’ll never get them to understand why.

        • Dale Edmonds

          …and then they killed jesus…….

          • Philip Marks

            Well they were just getting rid of the witnesses.

      • Ninja0980

        I am too but what can you expect from people who don’t believe in separation of church and state?

      • MonochromeMouse

        but everyone knows only liberal Muslims are terrorists /s

      • Billy Daniel

        Some people are so blind they can’t see the forest for the treez. Some of these comments are truly the definition to “you just can’t fix stupid”. Everyone has a right to do as they wish. But in doing there’s consequences. If you bash plan on getting bashed. But the point here is not about the woman or the people that have chosen a different avenue. It’s about freedom and the constitution. To fully understand freedom then you must accept that it can be taken. That’s true freedom. To force your will on someone who doesn’t see it that way is not freedom at all. If you are free to be a Christian, then the freedom also exist for you not to be. For years the so called Christian ran ramshod over homsexual people calling them names and the like. Now after years of forced judgements. The Christian has now become hated. I’m a Christian , but my Bible tells me to not judge and also not to be a busy body in another’s affairs. I can’t bash no one. I’m having hard enough time pulling the pole from my own eye.

        • Jeffrey

          You need to learn to edit. I honestly can’t follow your comment.

    • Sean

      ..

      • AmericanPaPISSED

        It more honestly would read “my religion demands that I persecute gay people”

      • RLPulliam

        I know of no religion in this country that prohibits gay marriage. Christianity certainly does not. Funny that she belongs to a religion that allows multiple marriages and adultery, but goes ballistic when it comes to issuing licenses for two men to marry.

        • AmericanPaPISSED

          You apparently are oblivious to the myriad of religious crazies that still exist in this country.

        • NedFlaherty

          R. L. Pulliam misunderstands “religion in this country” in 2 fundamental ways.
          Firstly, Christianity is not a religion; it is a branch of Judaism begun about 2,000 years ago which today includes about 34,000 denominations.
          Secondly, About half the Christian-like denominations in America support same-gender marriage, and about half the denominations do not. Many are slowly moving to embrace same-gender marriage (religious and/or civil).
          The U.S. Conference of Roman Catholic bishops still enforces the doctrines published from their international headquarters in Rome, Italy:

          1. Every human is always born as a cis-gender heterosexual.
          2. Gay men, lesbian women, bisexuals, and transgender people do not exist; all LGBT people are all just sinful heterosexuals.
          3. Between people of the same gender, there is no such thing as a religious marriage or a civil marriage.
          4. Families headed by LGBT adults do not exist.
          5. LGBT people are disobedient, defective, diseased, demonic, and doomed.

          • BlameTheFed

            One does not have to be religious to realize (1) that gender is determined solely by one’s chomosomes, and (2) that homosexuality is unnatural, and therefore, wrong behavior.

          • kl38

            You’re absolutely nuts. You sound like a right winger conspiracy job, too.

          • NedFlaherty

            The anonymous “Blame The Fed” does not understand evolution, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, nature, or morality.

            She credits religion for her misunderstandings; however, even non-religious can still be uneducated, and suffer from ignorance, fear, and superstition.

            The biological gender of genitalia, the biological gender of the brain, and the non-biological gender of the mind are 3 separate, distinct, independent things.

            Homosexuality has occurred regularly throughout human history and the natural world. It has been observed in ever species in which it has been studied. It occurs without any man-made intervention of any kind, both in humans and in non-humans. Since it occurs naturally, it is, therefore, entirely natural.

            The anonymous “Blame The Fed” believes — incorrectly — that sexual orientation can be “wrong behavior.”

            She’s wrong. It can’t.

            Sexual orientation and gender identity are facts of biological life, not mere “behaviors.” The idea that they could be “wrong behaviors” arises from Bronze Age religious superstition, and is just a carry-over from the folklore of the uneducated.

            The modern medical and mental sciences disproved that idea long ago.

          • Storbritannien_Dansker

            You provided the justification of marriage, as you “realize (1) that gender is determined solely by one’s chromosomes” and therefore valid for civil marriages. Thank you, but something tell me by your moniker that you’re batshit crazy. How many times have you divorced and remarried, living an adulterous lifestyle? Did you also remember that America is NOT founded as a Christian Nation? Probably you have barely read the entire Bible. I never knew so many cherries needed picking.

          • Mel Lewis

            You are so wrong on so many levels. Homosexuality is as normal and natural as heterosexuality. Oh, and being gay is no more a behavior than being straight.

          • Adam Armstrong

            (1) is certainly true, (2) requires you to make a right/wrong judgement based on some baseline.

            There is really no basis for that judgement, since two guys or two girls doing whatever they like really has zero impact on anyone other than themselves, so there’s no real basis to claim it to be right or wrong, it simply is.

            The biological aspect simply says that for the organism involved, homosexuality is very counter-productive, since our only reason for existence is to pass on our genes, and in this respect, homosexuality is very sub-optimal.

            Beyond that though, what difference does it make? What difference could it ever make?

          • Philip Marks

            Well let me just correct your biology, studies have been done and show homosexuality is positive for the group even if it reduces the direct passage of genetic material. It is pro survival, and it has to be or it would quickly be extinguished by evolutionary process, and yet is found in every species we have examined. Also homosexual genetics while diffuse, seem to be pro survival for the women who carry them. They have more babies overall.

            And I don’t know that the only reason for existence is to pass on genes, I see that a reality that living creatures tend to do that. To attribute “purpose” is to anthropomorphize biology with human values.

          • terribletwos

            Even though you find homosexuality in nature?

          • MaxMan

            One does not have to be religious to realize (1) that you’re an ignorant dipshit.

          • Mel Lewis

            That pretty much sums it up!

          • Adam Armstrong

            Wat? This is the dumbest thing I’ve read on the internet all day.

            “English is not a language, it is a branch of Low German begun about 1500 years ago which today includes many thousands of dialects.”

          • NedFlaherty

            Adam Armstrong assumes — incorrectly — that Christianity itself is a religion in the same way that English itself is a language.
            He’s wrong. Christianity itself, despite its many flavors, is not a religion.
            It has no headquarters, no organization, no authorities, no membership roster, no accountability, no official doctrine, etc. Christianity is only a collection of 34,000 loosely related denominations, in which most members disagree with most members of most other denominations.

          • Lynn Scott

            chrisitans have no business saying gays shouldn’t marry…

          • terribletwos

            I really don’t think it is RL’s misunderstanding as much as it is the Christian’s misunderstanding.

          • MaxMan

            I take your Five D’s of Homosexuality and raise you the Five D’s of Dodgeball.

    • Adam Schmidt

      And they can now buy Christian “Crusader” assault rifles with engraved scripture passages!

      http://boingboing.net/2015/09/08/christian-assault-rifles-now-a.html

      • RaygunsGoZap

        Just like the ones secretly inscribed on some of our soldiers weapons and ammo during the liberation of Iraq? Neato!

        • Fortunately, we can always stop them with our Muslamic ray guns. 😀

    • Yep such nice company Kim Davis keeps.

      • David Walker

        They’re perfect gentlemen…coming to protect that nice bible-believing girl. After all, you just need to ask “Who Would Jesus Shoot?” People who do their jobs, obviously.

    • David Walker

      Really. Ain’t that America?

    • Kevin Mitchell

      -Because you know, the oath keepers rape women and children, destroy cultural artifacts, murder or enslave those from different religions or sects within their own, kill homosexuals and fornicators. By golly- you’re right; they are just like ISIS!

      • DaveMiller135

        Well, we’ll have to see. They’re just getting started.

        • terribletwos

          Well, they did destroy cultural artifacts in Utah, an ancient Native American site with the help of the Bundy’s and two tea party asshats in Utah legislature. The legislature are in hot water now for their part in it.

      • Philip Marks

        Give them time.

        • terribletwos

          Read my comment to Dave Miller.

      • D.B.

        Hey look it is one of them now. Hey Kevin how are the gun thumpin bible nuts?? All of you right wing christian crazies should all jump off a cliff and take a one way trip to your imaginary place in the clouds. Then the rest of us can live in peace.

    • Dale Edmonds

      perfectly said……….

    • Robo

      Bunch of statist shills.

      • terribletwos

        Why yes, the “militia” are a bunch of statist shills.

        • Robo

          Militia are as far from statist as you can get. I’m talking about the statists that engage in democide. Always big government.

  • AtticusP

    Well, at least Kim will have company in jail.

    • Blorper

      Kim will find out that there are a lot of big women in prison.

  • LiberalDeacon

    Can someone please get these loons some Viagra?

    • madscntst

      And some sheep?

    • Chucktech

      They done got their big gunz, they don’t need no stinkin’ Viagra.

      • Doug105

        ,.

    • Michael Senesac

      Yea, Ms Davis is looking for another husband.

    • sondra3955

      No, they may have NO Viagra. If their god wanted them to reproduce he would not have made them impotent in the first place.

    • charemor

      It wouldn’t help. Stiff or not, you can’t do much with a teeny weenie.

  • LonelyLiberal

    Yeah, that’ll go well against Federal marshals.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Worked for the Bundy Bunch

      • AtticusP

        Lol

        I read that as “The Brady Bunch”!

        Marshall, Marshall, Marshall!!

        • LonelyLiberal

          And Kim “B.” Davis.

          • Bj Lincoln

            Miss Davis is one of us. Was one of us? Did she pass away? I liked her.

          • Chucktech

            Um… I’m guessing (too lazy to Google) that’s the actress’s name. Not Agent of the LORD Davis… Too many Davis’s in this drama…

          • zhera

            You’d think we were in Wales, not Kentucky! lol

          • Bj Lincoln

            I looked.. Ann B Davis passed away Jun 1 2014, age 88.
            They list her parents and siblings but not a husband.

          • Chucktech

            Oh, right, I remember now. And, yes, I do believe she was one of us (if I may claim at least a tangential membership in your side of the club!)

          • JW Swift

            I don’t have time to Google it, either, but when she passed, I thought I had heard that she was an active religious type and was not completely a fan of her gay fan-base.

          • LonelyLiberal

            According to IMDB, Ann B. Davis passed away in June of 2014 at the age of 88.

          • TreGibbs

            Nice touch !

        • Bryan

          Lol, who do you think you are, George Glass?

      • Christopher

        Worked real well at the Mount Carmel Ranch too.

  • Toasterlad

    This is what happens when you coddle and “accommodate” religious lunatics. It is past time enforce the rule of law on these fucking assholes. It they want to live in a theocracy, they can move to the middle east. I’m sick and tired of being afraid of religious bigots in my own supposedly free country.

    • Tor

      What became of “Merika, love it or leave it?” Shouldn’t they be leaving?

      • JaniceInToronto

        Don’t you -dare- try to send them up here.

        • Jeff Levy

          Can we at least give Ted Cruz back..

          • JaniceInToronto

            Ummmmm, NO.

          • Jeff Levy

            Now you are just not playing Fair…

            Ok,ok sweeten the pot You all take Ted Cruz back and I keep
            Justin Bieber for my personal play toy..

            LMFGAO…

          • JaniceInToronto

            OK. But you’re responsible for wrapping him in bubble wrap and shipping him back. Just address the package to: Santa, North Pole, Canada.

          • Jeff Levy

            Butt Santa will return to sender and I will be placed on Santa’s naughty list for sending him such a rotten Apple..

            Oh wait I’ll just give a return address of North Pole, Canada.

          • JaniceInToronto

            Yes. Excellent. Canada Post deserves the nightmare. BWAHAHA.

        • Beagle

          How about St. Helena? If it was good enough for Napoleon….

    • marigrace

      Yet you support a president who makes deals with middle east countries and wants to give billions to them. The gay community have the blood of their gay brothers and sisters on their hands, who are being killed in Muslim countries, when they voted for this Muslim loving president.

      • scottrose

        This jerkwad wrote a New York Times op-ed in support of Kim Davis. Then the paper published a letter to the editor about it from the writer Anne Rice. She cut the twerpy bigot down to size.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Why so puffy, bro?

      • You Christian Extremists in the USA, who look to theocracies such as Iran and ISIS with admiration, have more blood on your hands than any gay person, anywhere on the planet. It’s a fact that you and your ilk are the ones killing gay people in the Middle East as well as persecuting, dehumanizing, beating and murdering LGBT people here in the USA.

        • marigrace

          You can’t back up your wild incorrect claims. But I can, back up my claims and it is the cold hard facts that the gay community looks at Obama with admiration, a president that makes deals with countries that brutally persecute and kill gays.

          • So once again, we’ve arrived at the main point of your passive aggressive agenda. A conservative Christian Extremist bashing gay people by bashing Obama and vice versa. So again, please do let us know when we can expect the trains to arrive to take us to the conservative Christian utopia administered by Republicans were LGBT people will live in peace and harmony with people like Kim Davis and with full civil rights and Constitutional freedoms. Which one of the Obama alternatives will you be voting for who will deliver that?

          • Bj Lincoln

            / Troll! / Look up!
            Don’t feed the troll please

          • stormkite

            I detect more than a trace of envy in that “persecute and kill gays” argument. “Why can’t WE do that?”

          • MDB

            Fuck OFF !! You racist, homophobic fascist piglet !

          • marigrace

            LOL…such a thoughtful intelligent response.

          • MDB

            Just handing back your shovels-full of sanctimonious pseudo-Christian Bullshit – back to you in equal measure. Whattsmatta ? You sure can dish it out but you can’t take it ????

          • MDB

            FLAGGED !

          • Robincho

            Yo, maridisgrace — blow it out your sub-literate, flagged ass…

      • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

      • Bj Lincoln

        T…Ta….TROLL!

      • Dave S.

        Muslim Loving? Is he holding hands with them like Shrub?

      • Toasterlad

        Guys! Someone forgot to close the sewer grate again!

        • There’s only one person who can put a stop to her. I wish he’d do it.

      • dcurlee

        Put the koolaid down….ignorance is not a good look on you

      • MDB

        Take your race-baiting mooslim bullshit elsewhere. Deflecting all the violence, death, discrimination, persecution and murder of gays by the Institutional Church and so-called Christians ? Look a shiny object over there.
        BITCH !

        • marigrace

          Race? Who said anything about race? As usual, no rational response. Doesn’t change the fact Obama does deals with gay killing nations.

          • MDB

            Muslim loving President ? That’s not racist ? Why don’t you just come out and call The President a black Kenyan muslim-loving ,queer-loving muslim already. Your duplicity and deceit us outrageous.

          • marigrace

            Race has nothing to do with this as there are plenty of white politicians who support Obama making deals with Muslim nations who also kill gay people.

          • MaxMan

            But the fact that Reagan illegally sold arms to Iran is somehow always conveniently ignored.

      • Matthew Delemos

        If you want to pretend Pres. Obama is unique in his dealings with “Muslim” countries, over all the other Presidents, then feel free to be stupid gto fit your racist bigotry. So far as I can see, people like you are winning us this culture war.

      • MaxMan

        “The gay community have the blood of their gay brothers and sisters on their hands” – wow, that makes as much sense as believing in god.

    • Rand503

      If Mat Staver so much as responds to these guys with anything other than a rounding NO, then he should be up for disbarment and possibly even treason.

  • Justin

    Way to get the National Guard (or something heavier) called in.

    • thatotherjean

      Indeed, This will end in tears. And jail sentences.

  • SoCalVet

    These slow-thinkers are itching for a reason to use all the piles of weapons that they’ve amassed and practiced with for some time. And they didn’t pay attention to history when it comes to how the United States deals with traitors and rebels.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Yabbut, god is on their side this time !

      • Bad Tom

        They’ll be putting that to the test.
        They just might not like the result.

      • sondra3955

        We might just find out about that. I think the nut jobs will find they’ve been wrong all along.

      • Jeff Levy

        They thought their god was on their side when they betrayed the USA and became the Confederacy back in the day..

        It didn’t work out them then and with the might of the USA now it’s going to be a slaughter of them..

    • Chucktech

      Too bad the survivors won’t be publicly HANGED like in the good ol’ days…

      • Jeff Levy

        too bad they can’t go even further back into the good ol’ days and do a Public STRETCHING or further back and to a good ol’ Public Lion Feeding..

  • We have words for this. Sedition. Treason. Domestic Terrorism.

    • William

      One more, Guantanamo.

    • GanymedeRenard

      That’s exactly what I was thinking.

    • DN

      I became an American citizen this year, so, unlike these guys, I actually had to affirm that I would do none of the above crimes you list. I’m sick of being a better American than so many right-wingers. And I haven’t even been an American for a year, yet!

      • Bj Lincoln

        Keep being a better American. We need you. Congrats!

      • Dot Beech

        Welcome aboard!

      • Jeff Levy

        Don’t be sick of being a Better American than those wack jobs..

        Be proud you are Better..

  • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

    This ‘ll end well.

    I think they actually want to goad Loretta Lynch into a Janet Reno/Branch Davidian-type situation.

    • Gustav2

      The Federal government has no jurisdiction in the US!

      • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

        HuckyBooBoo needs to “explain” the Consteetooshyun to them.

        • Chucktech

          Him???

          • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

            Yeah. Since he was only too eager to pose for photo ops with this bunch and try to justify them on msnbc just yesterday and the day before, I think he needs to held to it. He “owns” them now and should be thoroughly tarnished by everything they do from here on. And Stephanopoulos and the rest of the weenies better not let him off the hook.

        • Tallulah

          HuckyBooBoo! I’m stealing that!

          • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

            I stole it from somebody else here on JMG a few days ago.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    These people are stupid, dangerous, and heavily armed. So now they are openly threatening Federal Agents that will do their job if Kim Davis puts herself in contempt again? They are not very bright are they. The Reich-Wing really want to start shooting and I fear it will start very soon.

    • joe ho

      it might have to come to that. religious overreach and accomodation has gone too far, far beyond what is required by the free exercise clause of the first amendment.

      an ugly, violent scene like this will do no favors for the religious-right. only 26% of americans thought kim davis was doing the right thing.

      • Chucktech

        Religious overreach and accommodation have gone too far, and now they see that it’s being threatened. They’re like some wounded animal. Very dangerous.

      • D.B.

        But how many of the current Republican president wannabes have heard “voices” from their “god” telling them to run. If they are that nuts they should be in a padded room not the White House. We would not elect someone that still believes in the easter bunny or Santa but a imaginary friend from the bible is ok??????

    • Joe in PA

      These people are stupid, dangerous, and heavily armed. What could possibly go wrong?

    • Brian in Valdosta

      Dangerous is the operative word.

      They are a group of fanatical lunatics with hair triggers.

      • Chucktech

        …and hare brains.

        • stormkite

          Not so much. They don’t get laid NEARLY so often.

    • Bj Lincoln

      This is why there is a petition for the American Psyc. Association to look into studying religious zealotry as an illness. The danger these people present is real but their logic is not.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        Where do I sign? I firmly believe that religion is a mental disease.

      • Paula

        Signed!

      • Bruce Bersch

        Religiosity IS a “mental disorder” and these people who are indoctrinated since birth NEED serious DE-programming just like ANY other cult victims.

      • MichaelJ

        Your description of the petition is not quite correct, and I am glad I read it carefully before signing it. The petition is to study the effects of religion (period), not “religious zealotry.” The premise of the petition is that religion is based on fantasy and superstition and not fact or evidence, creating “a state of delusion, bigotry and hatred.”
        I am an humanistic atheist and value evidence-based knowledge and not faith-based belief. But I didn’t sign the petition because I know too many religious people, including my liberal-left born-again evangelical in-laws, who are very capable of appreciating and responding to the same facts and evidence that I respond — people who are not hateful bigots — for me to sign the petition. The petition is premised on the notion that there is no differences among religious people on their ability to appreciate fact and knowledge.
        The petition also is not really a request to study its topic honestly and with an open-mind, for it asserts the many broad conclusions and recommendations that it wants to come out of the study. The petition is premised on the conclusion that religion lowers self-esteem, leading to effects on the individual such as “depression, psychosis and suicide” and is harmful to society. (The language used reminds me of the language that abortion and gay rights opponents use to describe what will happen to those who get abortions and embrace their homosexuality.) The petition also asks the APA to recommend that children not be taught or exposed to religion until they are 18 years old.
        Perhaps because I reacting strongly against this petition because I’ve done or been asked to do policy research for so many elected officials who wanted the research to come to specific conclusions and recommendations, rather than be open-minded enough to accept whatever the research uncovers. The petition reflects a close-mindedness that I dislike in the same way I dislike the close-mindedness of all too many religious people.

      • D.B.

        Hey I have a idea. Lets find the tallest elevator shaft, remove the elevator, and put a sign above it that says Heaven express. It will take care of the bible nuts all by itself.

    • crewman

      They want this to start a civil war so they can establish a theocracy.

      • Jonathan

        Many corporations would likely finance them as well.

        • David Walker

          I think it’s called “protection money.”

      • DesertSun59

        That is one of their ‘goals’. The trouble is, of course, that they will then start a bloody internecine war precisely like what ISIS is doing in Muslim lands. ISIS is an attempt to be the only voice of Islam. They execute anyone they encounter who doesn’t convert. That will be the goal of a theocratic America.

        • David Walker

          It’s one of several hypotheticals going through my brain lately. How long after “victory” is won will the in-fighting begin, as in who is the better xn? Who has the right interpretation of the holy word? I’d give it a couple of months before their own war among themselves begins. Assuming I’d still be alive, and there is obviously some question about that, I’d find it very funny to watch this “No, WE’RE the true xns” play out.

          • Steve Teeter

            They’ve been fighting that fight for decades.

      • David Walker

        “An elite class of genteel whites.” OK. May I assume that it will include at least some of The Truly Religious preachers.

      • pepón
        • Philip Marks

          In twenty years children will ask their parents “what is a Republican?”

      • StSean

        let’s don’t forget an expansive military.

    • TreGibbs

      And they will lose. These people are simply delusional, superstitious cowards with guns. Between the US Marshalls, special ops and the US Army and Reserves, they wont last a NY minute.

      • Chucktech

        As I said in another post, this is going to happen, sooner or later.

        • Jonathan

          I agree with you. It appears there’s eventually going to be a confrontation and it won’t be pretty.

        • Towa Tei

          It’s what these crazies want …and eventually it’s what they’ll get. Law enforcement only gets to decide when they’ll officially step in.

      • scottrose

        Here in New York City, minutes each last 60 seconds, much as they do everywhere else. And don’t ask what it’s like waiting in the exceedingly long check-out lines at the Whole Foods at Columbus Circle.

        • TreGibbs

          Yes, I am aware that a minute lasts 60 seconds in NY and everywhere else, at least on Earth. The term “New York Minute” originated in the 60’s, describing the frenzied and hectic pace of New Yorker’s lives.

          • Mikey

            minutes are MUCH slower here in Canada.. we’re metric, so 100 seconds per minute, then 100 minutes per hour, and we have milliminutes, centiminutes, decaminutes.

            It can take visitors to our friendly and polite country a few decidays to get used to the way we count time.

            But you can rest assured that if the US becomes a theocracy, our borders will slam shut in a Montréal milliminute.

          • stormkite

            Just so you don’t think you’ve gotten away with it, we see what you did. (and it was brilliant!)

          • D.B.

            Just wait, Scotty ( Koch sucker ) Walker wants to build the wall before you Canadians can, but I have a deal for ya. Lets send both Walker and Beiber to ISIS. I hear they like diseased sluts.

        • Towa Tei

          I’m not so sure about that. Time goes WAY faster in NYC.

    • Don’t forget inbred. They also look like they have sex with animals.

      • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

        Now, now. Don’t talk that way about Kim’s husbands #5, #6 and #8.

      • radiofreerome

        They look like their PARENTS had sex with animals.

    • Sean Taylor

      They’ve already openly threatened federal agents. It happened during the Bundy incident. This is nothing new. THey’re going to force an incident and federal forces will have to step in. It’s a cycle these nutjobs repeat over and over, much like bipolar disorder.

    • Michael Rush

      They may just cross the line from hate speech to hate crime – ???

      ( calls for inciting violence are a hate crime from what i understand )

      ( Elmer )Stewart Rhodes is a Yale Law School graduate

      https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/extremist_profile_images/SPLC-Extremist-Files-Elmer-Stewart-Rhodes-1280×720.jpg

      • Lumpy Gaga

        So he jumped out of a plane and couldn’t hit the ground. Give him the biggest gun of all.

    • DesertSun59

      This is now the SECOND time they’ve gotten away with it. The first time was regarding Cliven Bundy and his freeloading on public land. I see a trend now. This admin wants to prevent small scale regional civil wars regarding fundamentalist religious nutcases. Once the zealots start their bloodshed they are incapable of stopping. They worship an extremely well documented genocidal deity and would love to make sure that blood runs in the streets as an homage to said deity.

      • The societally acceptable human sacrifice.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          You want a theocratic cake, ya gotta break a few eggs.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        “Hey, we’re not ALL like that!”

      • StSean

        anyone know the reason the feds backed off bundy ranch?

    • Rex

      This is actually frightening. I believe I read something in the Bible, “Thou shalt not kill.” So, how are they going to justify that when it happens?

      • Sean Taylor

        Yeah thou shalt not kill is #6 on their all time hit parade but it never seems that it applies to them.

    • Rand503

      They also really are happy to have people die to prevent gays from marrying. perverted is more my thought.

    • StSean

      Was it just yesterday I was saying God sounds like a lunatic? My mistake. it’s these dumbfucks who speak for It.

    • charemor

      Given their track record, I wonder how many will shoot some of their own party.

    • Galvestonian

      Imagine … just imagine what will happen if these doofus idiots open fire on U.S. Marshalls or any other arm of the Law. This group and every one of it’s members will be hunted down and jailed ( or worse ) and any other similar group will be followed, watched, investigated and infiltrated and eventually shut down. The NRA and other similar gun promoters hand out heavy duty weapons to nuts like these and this is the crap that we see. Zealots with WMD — where did we see that before ??? Oh hell, no !

  • John McKee

    I was really amazed at how much deference the media gave The Oath Keepers in the Ferguson protests, they acted like these were not the same lawless religious loonies involved in the Bundy stand-off with really far fringe views.

    Like did anyone explain to the people covering the Ferguson protests that The Oath Keepers are actually dangerous anti-gay anti-government whackjobs?

    • MrSkippy

      Well when a bunch of dickheads with guns runs around picketing people they don’t like the media tends to give them deference out of pure self preservation.

      These fucktards are the kind of guys that will show up sporting guns and block your drive way if you call them “fucktards”.

  • MattM

    When the government doesn’t support my bigotry, I too like to threaten it with assault rifles. Because this always works.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Smack them down hard, fast and soon. Enough of this shit before its too late.

  • Stev84

    ‘murica! Fuck yeah!

  • Bob_Barnes

    Thanks Huckabee for giving hate and violence so much validation.

  • TampaZeke

    Watch how quickly her support drops to 2% once the first shot is fired and watch how quickly Americans sour on “religious liberty” crusaders.

    • Chucktech

      Not only that, but what about goood christian Kimmie Davis?? If she had even the first scintilla of decency, she should, in no uncertain terms, DENOUNCE this goon squad and be ready to accept her jail sentence, AS SHE SAID SHE WOULD.

      • Eric in Oakland

        If she had a scintilla of decency she wouldn’t be in the news. We’re talking about someone whose claim to fame is whoring for hate groups after all.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Something in her past or temperament is gonna Duggar these fuckers hard and heavy.

    • Bob Black

      2% with private stockpiles of weapons and ammunition can do a LOT of damage.

  • Christophe

    Report to state and federal authorities immediately. Kim, her posse, and her violent thugs.

  • oikos

    I’m not encouraged that the govt will do anything to stop these nuts after witnessing the Bundy ranch debacle.

  • Bob Conti

    I think the US Marshalls are ready…

    • another_steve

      Sadly, it may come to that.

      Domestic terrorism is generally not tolerated in the United States of America.

      • I wish I could say you were wrong. I hope it doesn’t come to this. There’s no need for it to come to this. But this seems to be what the religious right wants.

        • sondra3955

          I also hope,(as most of us do), that this does not come to violence, but the christian zealots really want to be their own sort of martyrs for their god.

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        Naw, the cops turn a blind eye to it if the nuts are in lock-step with them ideologically and I’m afraid many cops are pretty huge bigots themselves.

  • Mr. Spiffy

    The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist. Looking forward to a hearty laugh.

  • Greg B.

    That’ll end well for him.

  • Cousin Bleh

    Admittedly, I know nothing about sniper rifles, but positioning the barrel in the narrow crevice between two concrete pilons seems (not sure what the technical word is) imbecilic.

    • Bob Conti

      Kinda limiting one’s target, isn’t it? And one quick move either way and you’ve got yourself a bent barrel. Hunh. Bent barrel…

      • Chucktech

        That’s what gun nuts call the curve in their boner, 3″ boner though it may be…

  • Stev84

    Also scary is that these morons are solely recruited from current former military members, police and fire-fighters.

    • Chucktech

      If I may: Also scary is that these morons are solely recruited from really, REALLY stooopid current former military members, police and fire-fighters.

  • Well you think THEY are scary? Wait until we get Granny and Ellie Mae Clampett out on our side. They will head thar hills faster than you can say possum stew!

    • Hue-Man

      Granny was armed.

  • Ronald Ibach

    Sedition, rebellion, and treason. Lock these fools up before they really do some harm.

  • TexasBoy

    Murderers for the Lord? No doubt these fools would’ve been in favor of the Inquisitions.

  • 2karmanot

    The Oats Creepers are a terrorist organization and should be cut short by the Justice Dep’t and Homeland Security.

    • Tor

      Homeland Security is too busy busting hook-up sites.

      • Bj Lincoln

        That is more interesting then taking out terrorists.

        • gaymex

          …and at times undercover work has all sorts of unintended perks.

  • pj

    just sent an email to diane reem show. what brian is doing on there spewing hate is beyond me.

    • pj

      whats up with npr?

    • Brian Brown?

      • pj

        the same

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Evan Wolfson is there, too.

      • pj

        thank god….somebodys got to rebut that moron. the woman moderating didnt realize when shes talking to brian shes dealing with a snake.

  • Jeffg166

    The klan shall rise again.

  • Jacob

    Branch Dumbvidian

  • Marc

    No wonder these nutjobs buy into “Jade Helm.”

  • Smithbc

    These guys are fucking terrorists.

    • Marc

      and cowards, but that might go hand in hand

  • TexasBoy

    Too bad there wasn’t a runaway 18 wheeler barreling down the highway at just that moment.

    • Marc

      or someone swerving to avoid a small creature

    • Bob Conti

      Hell, the real irony would be if it was a Prius that ran him over. Well, maybe not “real” irony, but still…

  • Necessitas

    Religion: A boot stomping on a human face, forever.

  • JT

    Send in the troops. But first the black helicopters.

    Investigate “Liberty Counsel” for criminal and terroristic conspiracy.

  • GanymedeRenard

    ‘Militia’ is often a euphemism used to describe a paramilitary, terrorist group. I’m no expert, which is why I ask, is this legal (even under the 2nd Amendment)?

    • Octavio

      They seem to think so. On a serious note, yes. It is legal. As long as there is no oath to fight against the USA or some such regulation similar to that. It they take up arms against the legitimate government — they’re toast. Or at least that’s what is supposed to happen to them.

      • GanymedeRenard

        Thanks! With that in mind, I think some facts remain disturbing: 1) The word “oath” is part of this group’s official name, which suggests they may have sworn an oath of some sort. 2) The fact that they’re willing to attack the legally established federal authority (the marshals?), via weapons, can be construed as official rebellion and possible treason, no? But this is just my (ignorant) opinion.

  • Leo Tallant

    “…lead him to the right path” That’s the frightening problem. They all think they have some “path” that they demand everyone else in the world to follow.

  • zhera

    Soo… a new type WBC? Travelling from one place to another just to make people angry and scared? Don’t they have jobs?

    • BlueberriesForMe

      This is their (self-appointed) job. I wonder how many of them are “disabled” and collecting Social Security and/or other “government benefits”.

      • Hue-Man

        Headline from a decade ago: Minutemen watch U.S.-Canada border

        Gentlemen, start your lawn chairs!

        http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/minutemen-watch-us-canada-border/

      • Octavio

        You just described my dead brother. He was disabled (too fat to walk), collected SS disability checks and spent most of his time reloading bullet shells in his basement with his favorite reloader. He made extra money machining old 45 caliber pistols into 50 caliber pieces that often exploded when fired. He was such a sweet spirit.

  • Jan Wesselius

    Isn’t this great! Turning the USA into a anarchy. Just like the Dark Ages. Private armies, and everything. Looks like one of those computer games advertised on TV. “Build your own Christian empire, kill those that enter.”

  • Silver Badger

    On would think that Homeland Security would want to do something about these domestic terrorists.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Homeland Security is very busy right now, keeping the Fatherland Homeland safe from Rentboy.

      • Silver Badger

        Of course! How thoughtless of me. We must keep our priorities straight.

    • ColdCountry

      Second Amendment, baby! Ah know ma rahtz!

  • ETownCanuck

    Hmmm…what could possibly go wrong?

  • 2patricius2

    This whole scenario of antigay anti-marriage equality characters has been revealing its true nature in recent years. Hateful ministers calling for legal discrimination and even imprisonment and making allusions to Biblical execution. Kim Davis, the hypocritical delusional mouthpiece of an unseen divinity. Preying lawyers and politicians attaching themselves to an unAmerican version of law. Now a militant group threatening to take the law into their own hands. The more they show their hateful and dangerous nature, the more they alienate themselves from all but the most rabid and hateful members of society.

    I just hope this does not lead to real violence. There is already a history of continued vandalism and violence against LGBT people and those who have supported us.

    • Chucktech

      Gawd bless “Murikuh…

  • Sean

    Terrorists. Report the terrorists to the FBI. I just did.

    • Chucktech

      If these fuckers aren’t already on the FBI’s radar, we’re fucked.

  • BeaverTales

    Bigots boozed up on bourbon and Jebus hiding in the thickets with rifles?? I feel safer already.

  • Gindy51

    And all over something as wonderful as love between two people. Sick fuckers.

    • Hue-Man

      Worse, a piece of paper – the weddings will happen in due course, regardless.

  • WiscoJoe

    Fun fact. Here’s the oath that Kim Davis swore to keep when elected county clerk:

    “I do solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be) that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this Commonwealth, and be faithful and true to the Commonwealth of Kentucky so long as I continue a citizen thereof, and that I will faithfully execute, to the best of my ability, the office of county clerk according to law; and I do further solemnly swear (or affirm) that since the adoption of the present Constitution, I, being a citizen of this State, have not fought a duel with deadly weapons within this State nor out of it, nor have I sent or accepted a challenge to fight a duel with deadly weapons, nor have I acted as second in carrying a challenge, nor aided or assisted any person thus offending, so help me God.”

    • coram nobis

      Well, if she didn’t mean it, then she has, on top of everything else, broken a Commandment, you know, the one about bearing false witness. That’s the fun thing about people with odd Bible verses; there’s always something in that book that will contradict them, if not hoist them on their own parable.

      • WiscoJoe

        Exactly. Plus we all know that the Bible forbids women from having authority over men in the first place, which I guess means that Kim Davis is violating someone’s religious beliefs just by holding political office.

        • William

          Some religious folk wouldn’t allow her out of the house without being accompanied by a male relative.

          Oh wait, her son is a deputy clerk. That base is covered, unlike Kim’s face.

        • coram nobis

          That’s right, there’s two or three mentions of that in Paul’s epistles. There’s also a whole section at the start of Romans 13 in which he talks about deference to civil authority generally. Bible studies can be so much fun even if you don’t take them literally, see?

          • WiscoJoe

            ‘Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.’ -Isaac Asimov

    • William

      No dueling? I’m out.

      • WiscoJoe

        Ah, Kentucky. It’s cute they’ve left that ridiculous part in there just for the sake of ‘heritage’ or whatever.

        Now that I think about it, is the NRA aware of this no “duel with deadly weapons” clause? What if my sincerely held religious beliefs command me to fight a duel to protect my sister’s honor or whatever such nonsense?

      • billbear1961

        Indeed!

        How is a gentleman to defend his honour if he may not challenge a scoundrel to a duel?!

        And who will refuse to act as a second for his friend in an affair of honour?!

  • Necessitas

    How many gay people or federal marshals are going to have to die before KY steps up to the plate and puts and end to Davis’ lawlessness? This IS the course on which things are set. It will happen if nothing is done to prevent it.

  • TexasBoy

    “Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes announced yesterday that he had reached out to Davis’ lawyers at Liberty Counsel…”

    Hmmm, I wonder what Mat Stavers, legally an officer of the court as are all lawyers, said in reply? If he agreed, maybe it will be enough to disbar him.

  • John Calendo

    There will be blood. Then arrests. Then prison sentences. Have at it, patriots!

  • coram nobis

    If Federal marshals can’t enforce the law, and it is a Federal manner, a logical next step would come from Ft. Campbell, KY, home of the 101st Airborne Division. Hey, it worked in Little Rock back in the day.

  • JustSayin’

    The national guard will soon roll into Rowan

  • MikeBx2

    I don’t want law enforcement to be in that situation, but the image of these terrorists pointing weapons at federal marshals would be shocking and game changing. Let’s see Huckabee try to defend this.

    • Necessitas

      Defend it? He’s promoting it.

      • MikeBx2

        Actually, he says he’d go to jail in her place, so they could protect her by handing him over.

        • Necessitas

          Mike’s pretty safe since U.S. law forbids prisoner substitutions.
          The incarcerated must serve their own sentences.

          • MikeBx2

            So what you’re saying is that he knew he would never actually have to go in her place? /sarcasm

          • Chucktech

            Gee, I wonder if Fuckabee knew that…

  • canoebum

    This threat of open insurrection should be harshly dealt with by the Federal government. Their movements should be closely monitored and arrests should be made as soon as they cross into Rowen County. Send in the anti-terrorist units.

  • TheManicMechanic

    I’m sorry, but these people need to be taken out. Slightest provocation and boom. Make it clear that these acts of defiance and sedition are not to be tolerated at all.

    • gaymex

      I would have no mercy in dealing with this sort of shit. It is not “their” country, it is “our” country–all of us.

    • billbear1961

      Sedition is exactly what this is about!

      Imagine what would be said–what would happen–if anyone on the LEFT were behaving in this way–just IMAGINE!

    • Chucktech

      Wut?? No “due process”?

      Fuck ’em.

      • TheManicMechanic

        There is no due process when one of them opens fire. The process is to eliminate them. It’s what you do to terrorists.

    • shivadog

      It should have been done during the Bundy debacle. Letting these asswipes get away with that shit just emboldened them.

  • dcurlee

    Fuck you ass wipes. Try to interfere and I hope they take all of you out

  • Rick

    They are not a well-regulated militia.

    • William

      Their psychiatric medication isn’t well regulated.

      • Bad Tom

        More Haldol, stat!

  • Irishsupporter

    These guys should be treated like any other domestic terrorist group, for Davis is ordered back to jail (likely) then they should have plenty of feds and the nation guard out to combat them, any hostile or seemly hostile act should be met with deadly force and that includes the setting up of sniper points and any arrested member should be treated as domestic terrosts they are and revive long long federal jail time!!

    • Chucktech

      Part of the problem seems to be that we don’t HAVE domestic terrorists. We have lone wolves, or disgruntled individuals, or racists, or evil-doers, or mentally ill people. The problem is that we don’t call a spade a fucking spade.

  • The Professor

    Wow. And if anyone gets hurt I hope they arrest Cruz and Huckabee for inciting violence. This is just ridiculous.

    • OK, that second one made me literally LOL.

      • gaymex

        I loved it too. He had that pre-firing Limbaugh jiggle going for him.

      • ColdCountry

        Me, too!

      • Chucktech

        #3 did it for me!

    • coram nobis

      Might be a successful tactic. Any Federal marshals seeing this would probably crumple and roll around on the ground, laughing.

      • “Fire when you see the whites of their buttocks!”

    • Joe in PA

      I love the first one…he doesn’t know his pants are down for way too long. 🙂

      • coram nobis

        He may have been into the Early Times before this video.

        • Joe in PA

          and as I’ve said before…what could go wrong? 🙂

          • Octavio

            I miss Reno 911. What a perfectly wonderful satire. And it still pisses off every law enforcement-related person in Washoe County. Just love it.

  • Glen

    This guy ought to be having a visit from the FBI and the Secret Service soon.

    His very statements, suggesting armed confrontation with law enforcement, and essentially insurrection, may be illegal. So perhaps he too will find himself behind bars soon.

  • Kevin

    As I’ve said on several occasions…. This ain’t gonna end well…. All thanks to jeebus…

  • Fortunately the Constitution allows civilians to form their own armed militia. So they cannot be arrested for simply forming such a group… But coming out to Rowan County and standing in front of the courthouse with guns to protect her… And threatening to use lethal force so the sheriff and state troopers can’t arrest her is just suicide

    These people are betting on the fact that if the federal and state government send in the Armed Forces that the Armed Forces will ignore the orders of the generals or even the president who is the commander-in-chief of the military will deliberately disobey orders and join these group of people – basically creating a Civil War situation with the military refuses the back the American government , that sort of situation is not going to happen… Because even if a certain percentage of each branch broke off, there would be an armed bloody conflict in any one that survived would be thrown in jail for the rest of their lives probably for treason even executed for treason

    These people are just mindless stupid idiots for even showing up and threatening to challenge the law-enforcement agencies of the county and the state – and threatening to defy military force if need be. Keep in mind these are not just people with guns… They have grenades, bazookas, major major artillery

    • gaymex

      Imagine what would happen if two black kids with bb guns said they were making sure their pop wasn’t arrested again.

      • Was just going to post a similar comment. 2A only applies to white people.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Civil War……that’s exactly what these idiots want; they’re just itching to start one.

      • They are and it’s not just this militia group… Matt Staver, Mike Huckabee… They are all hoping for a physical armed Civil War because they really want the southern states to step out from the union. So they can have this little country that is run by the Bible… But this isn’t the era that the Civil War happened and the government is not going to tolerate anything that borderline Civil War

        They can send in troops but that causes blood shed… More than likely they would cut off all electricity to those states granted now those sates do you have your own power plants…but if you got really out of control our own government can drop an EMP explosion right over the state and fry every electronic circuit in that state and send it back to the 1950s

        That would be a game over scenario because all citizens would be screaming to have their TVs and electronics back and all that kind of stuff and would want that self-proclaimed militia out of there… Plus there’s not that many of them. I’m more concerned of innocent people getting injured. But our government has a way to deal with things like this. If things like this started getting out of hand, , And this group does have snipers… I’m sure our government would send an snipers to snipe the snipers and put a bullet in their head before they could shoot somebody. I do not advocate violence in many many cases… But in a case like this, if these people actually set up arms around the Rowan County Courthouse and point guns at the police, then our military needs to come in and eliminate them – hopefully without casualty.

        But at the same time Matt Staver and groups like this one the military to come in because then they can use it to grandstand even more that the government is a pressing the “American people”

      • Even though the Constitution gives them right to form a militia and bear arms…what they are saying as far as protecting Kim Davis borderlines on terrorism and treason – but I don’t think they give a crap about that either… The whole lot of them needs to be locked up in jail… Or quietly eliminated by the CIA. I can say that because I’m not threatening anyone of these people which would be a violation of the law… But by the CIA or FBI or military branch doing it… Then they would be offed via legal means

        I do not like seeing humans killed… But these people are dangerous and will kill for their cause, and they will kill innocent people along with anybody that gets in their way. I’m surprised the government has allowed this group to get this powerful and this big… They should’ve been taken down along time ago and locked away

      • Lumpy Gaga

        They’ll be all for it, until they realize they’ll have to write letters.

    • Grafxbear

      They get away with public displays of weapons while unarmed people of color are being executed on the streets by “law enforcement”.

      • It’s not fair… And I don’t argue that we have police men that are doing their job and policewomen – who do their job for the power trip and not for the good of the people. Plus we have racist people on the job as well. Unfortunately there’s no way to test to see if somebody’s a racist before they take The job short of making all police officers take a lie detector test before entering police academy asking if they have a problem with various races and or even gay people… That might be one way of keeping bad eggs out of the police system… But sometimes police officers go into the job with very noble intentions and get corrupted along the way
        However, a lot of these unarmed people that are getting shot by police are not exactly innocent either. And 90% of the cases they are in the process of committing a crime, or just committed a crime… In 10% of the cases it’s a case of mistaken identity, and a trigger trigger-happy police officer

        In the 90% block… Some shootings are perfectly justifiable as an officer can shoot somebody who’s unarmed if that person has their hands in their pocket and quickly yanks their hand out… That’s a stupid thing for anybody to do white black or any race…

        Don’t give me wrong as I am not justifying the shooting of innocent people, but if they are unarmed there are cases where you can be legally shot because you are not following directions, and you are doing something to make an officer think that their life is in imminent danger… And if you do that they have a perfect right to shoot you – now if you aren’t doing any of those things, then they shouldn’t even have unholster their weapon and aimed it at you

        To be honest, I sit on the fence in this whole shooting issue because I’ve seen many shootings that are justified and the black community screams bloody murder and they pretrade the person being shot is this innocent person who hasn’t done anything wrong and they show pictures of this person that makes it look like there this young child because the pictures 10 years old… And then later you find out that the person was engage in a crime and has a two page long rap sheet, and actually did something to warrant getting shot.

        But on the flipside I have seen horrific horse stories of what white cops do the black people… Especially a video that had to do with the birthday party at a swimming pool and some scared white person called the people because their pool had been overrun by Black teenagers… And at one point this supervisor, who was white, showed up and told everybody to go home… But they were on public property and he has no authority to order them to go home… So this black teenage girl question this supervisor… And he drug or across the concrete and scraped her skin up and tore up her skin…he tossed around like a ragdoll and then sat on her and handcuffed her… The whole time she was screaming and crying that she was in pain… And this was all caught on video. So even without the shootings there is a clear case for police brutality against people of color

        My point is that even though it is unjustified many times… That there are cases where the shootings are justified, but the treatment of that girl… Even if she was doing something wrong is unacceptable – because that’s inhumane and you don’t even treat a criminal like that in my Pinyan

    • Yep this group is nothing but a far right version of the Muslim Isis group and should be treated as such: Terrorists. The military or the CIA or the FBI or whatever the branch of government that does it needs to go in and somehow eliminate them without bloodshed… And if that can’t be done then eliminate them in such a way that does not risk innocent civilians from being hurt

    • Chucktech

      If these lunatics have grenades, bazookas, and major major artillery, which is NOT allowed 2nd Amendment notwithstanding, they should be taken out, immediately, with extreme prejudice.

  • Bad Tom

    When the Marathon bombers where still on the loose in Boston, the heavily armed presence that the police could summon was frighteningly impressive.

    These “oath keepers” are playing with fire openly threatening Federal Marshals.
    Acetelyne torch hot fire.

    Any armed confrontation with the police is gonna evaporate whatever support these goons think they have like dry ice in the desert.

  • it’s stories like this that make me so bloody thankful to be a Canadian….

    • Brody Levesque

      You & me both. I’ve been covering American politics for nearly 35 years and I need to say, its gotten very ugly and very scary.

      • Chucktech

        It’s really a confluence of the death throes of muscular chrsitianity and a completely moribund and outrageous Republican party.

        • Octavio

          I buy that.

    • Has Canada ever had a person of color as prime minister? A Muslim? An aboriginal person? What do you think will happen in Canada if that happens?

      • we’ve had a woman. during her short time as prime minister, she oversaw canada’s military allow its LGBT citizens to serve openly. and this was before the USA enacted “don’t ask don’t tell” 😀

        but i did move to the US weeks before Obama won the election in 2008 – and the explosion of appalling bigotry floored me. every racist came out of the woodwork.

        i don’t know what will happen when Canada elects a non-white person as prime minister. but ontario did elect and openly-gay woman as its Premiere, with an overwhelming majority. what’s happened? well, ignorant townies are pretty upset, but they get upset every time they see someone on TV who still has all of their own teeth, so……

        • So you don’t have ignorant rednecks, racist bigots and self righteous religious extremists in Canada?

          • we do. but we also have better gun regulations, and nowhere near the obsessive-gun-culture that the US has. to put it bluntly – our redneck bigots aren’t armed to the teeth and empowered by bogus right-wing radio and tv “news” the way they are in the USA.

          • Yes, that’s the pesky Second Amendment, which was an integral part of the divorce decree from your cousin.

          • the second amendment….*sigh*. it’s amazingly abused, eh?

          • Stretched would be a better word than abused.

          • Can you at least take back Justin Bieber?

          • billbear1961

            A divorce which occurred largely because the rich didn’t want to pay their taxes–that story NEVER changes in this country–AND because the Crown was protecting Indian lands from colonists and unscrupulous speculators greedy to steal it from them!

            A divorce which never had, during the rebellion itself, the support of more than a THIRD of the population (one third remained loyal to their lawful Sovereign, and one third waited to see who was going to win!).

            A divorce which resulted in a republic which STILL struggles, against an increasingly INSANE far right–what portion of the American right is NOT far-right these days?–to achieve and maintain many of the progressive and enlightened social policies accomplished decades ago by the world’s constitutional monarchies, which number among–if they do not form the majority of–the world’s most progressive and truly democratic states!

            This benighted republic might be MUCH more like Canada today had we remained loyal to the Crown!

            God SAVE the QUEEN!!

          • MDB
          • billbear1961
          • billbear1961

            Or by politicians preaching sedition and hellbent on stripping a minority of their constitutional rights!

          • Hue-Man

            Yes to all the above. But they don’t control any political party in Canada, unlike the U.S. Republican party. In fact, an Alberta provincial election was lost by candidates of that party making homophobic and racist comments.

            Call it PC but there is no room in the political landscape for racism and homophobia by candidates let alone by a party. A Conservative party candidate had to step down last month in the middle of the election when his online comments became public knowledge:

            “First Nations refused to integrate into European culture. It’s their right, but there was a price to pay for that decision: Rejecting urban society and its advantages. The federal government used corruption to keep First Nations quieter… Political parties didn’t take responsibility
            for integrating aboriginal communities…” and

            “To be fair, I think it’s better to speak of men’s authority over women, than of superiority. I think that male-female relations were not determined by religion, but rather by forces present before religions [existed]. Man was stronger than woman, the woman was placed under his
            protection. Because of pregnancies, women were often in a state of fragility or insecurity, so men protected them, etc.” http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/gilles-guibord-no-longer-conservative-candidate-after-internet-comments-surface-1.3199158

          • Chucktech

            Pffft… Compared to American ignorant rednecks, racist bigots and self righteous religious extremists, they are pitiful, First Order amateurs…

          • Octavio

            There are plenty of them living in Alberta.

        • Michael Senesac

          Oh, come-on. I own these teeth.

      • Hue-Man

        Haitian-refugee Michaëlle Jean was Governor-General (Canada’s Head of State Queen Elizabeth’s representative) from 2005 to 2010. She is now Secretary-General of La Francophonie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean

        The controversies prior to her appointment concerned her dual citizenship and supportive statements she made about Quebec separatists. I’m sure there were some racist Canadians who objected to her but for most French-speaking Canadians, she was a familiar face on CBC French TV. Of course, she was following in the footsteps of Governor-General Adrienne Clarkson who was a refugee from WW II Hong Kong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Clarkson

        On your direct question, nothing would happen. Calgary has a Muslim mayor. Ontario has a lesbian premier. PEI has a gay premier. BC had a premier born in India. 22% of Canadian residents were born outside Canada – it would probably benefit someone of color seeking to be prime minister.

      • billbear1961

        I’ve been in Canada long enough–28 years–to know that there is no ugliness comparable to what occurs easily in the States; in any case, JB, not on the SCALE it occurs south of of the border.

        When isolated examples pop up from time to time, those individuals do not receive support from politicians.

        That said, immigrant communities in Toronto are ferociously resisting a change in the Ontario curriculum which aims at being much more open and supportive of the LGBT community. It offends their “deeply held beliefs.” They don’t want their kids to know about LGBTs.

        We saw a report on the news very recently that said resistance of this kind is unheard of in Canada.

        They’ve been keeping their kids out of school, although reports have said some are starting to go back to the classroom.

        • Yes, it’s quite evident that problems exist on both sides of the border, some more egregious than others and with many of them on our side. We have bright spots and places in the USA where it’s no so grim. There’s not a hell of a lot we can do here to combat the whole lot of ugly comin’ at us from a never ending parade of stupid, much of it we see documented here on JMG, other than to support candidates who will attempt to change things. We’re just as weary over it as you are. No offense intended but it just gets tiresome to point it out.

          • billbear1961

            No offense taken!

            I know who you are and WHAT you stand for!

            🙂

          • I love you Bill

          • billbear1961

            The feeling is mutual!

            🙂

            XO

  • chasmader

    I (half jokingly) would love to see armed to the teeth militias of Mexican-Americans, as well as Blacks and a few Asian Tongs, do the same, to “defend” their rights. White Trash America would completely freak.

    • zhera

      It’s time to stand up for the right to arm bears. All you bears out there, protect Brian Mason and his constitutional DUTY to issue marriage licences to gay couples!

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      What about an LGBT militia?

      • chasmader

        Sorry but the Pink Pistols can’t hold a candle to the Black Panthers or Shrimp Boy’s Tong.

  • danolgb

    I’ve actually met a person in real life who firmly believes the idiotic notion that the 2nd Amendment somehow gives him the right to take up arms against a “tyrannical government.” I asked him who gets to decide if the government is “tyrannical”. He of course, didn’t have an answer.

  • Henry Horton

    Been seeing this coming for several years now…and Trumps got 32% on the Repug polls. This country is off its rocker and what must we look like to the civilized world?

  • kipper

    ( I dont think they are going to win )

    • Chucktech

      Theyz to dum to no that…

  • OrliJoe in Fla

    Huckabee, Cruz, Rubio, Staver, etc. et all will have blood on their hands, unfortunately.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Just never their own. I wonder how that keeps happening?

  • Glen

    Does anyone know if the person in that photo was ever arrested and charged?

    Assuming they were able to identify him.

    • Irishsupporter

      It’s probably a stock picture and not an actual member.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        The actual sniper on the actual highway? Whether he’s specifically an “oathkeeper” or not, he’s a sniper, and It’s an actual photo from the one and only BundyFest.

        (Although I suppose there’s money to be made starting a stock photo agency for domestic terrorists – website decoration, greeting cards, wedding invitations, etc.)

  • Dot Beech

    Okay… so how is this going to work? If she goes back to her job and obeys the court’s order, these Oath Keepers have nothing to do.

    If she does not obey the court order, she will be summoned back to federal court. If she goes to court accompanied by Oath Keepers, they will be screened out by armed security officers and not make it in the front door. She will be in the court room without her cracker thug posse, and will be remanded back to jail, directly from the court room, as she was before.

    And what will the Oath Keepers do about that? Attack a federal jail? Maybe. If so, they’ll probably be blasted off the face of the Earth, a net gain for all decent people.

    If Davis does not appear in court and remains holed up somewhere surrounded by Oath Keepers (and Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz?), that will be verrry interesting, as Artie Johnson used to say.

    • danolgb

      Remember Waco?

      • fuow

        Yeah, that was a president who wasn’t a blue-dog.

        • Octavio

          Say what you will about the Waco tragedy, but the Feds did end the problem.

          • Robincho

            Thankfully, the life of Blanche De Vidian, Waco’s most famous drag queen, was spared…

      • Chucktech

        …where justice was served?

        • danolgb

          I’m not exactly sure you can call it justice since a lot of children died in the process, but it was not the Federal government’s fault. It was the religious crackpots who decided they didn’t need to obey the law.

    • pj

      im sure kims husband is telling her the last choice is best. time for a hillbilly standoff in the woods.

  • Michael Senesac

    The people applying for a marriage license on Monday will need protection.

    • zhera

      Brian Mason might need some protection as well!

      • Michael Senesac

        Agree.

      • Schlukitz

        I was just having the same thought.

      • Chucktech

        Yeah, well I hope it’s not forthcoming.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          ?? Brian Mason is one of the good guys – the one who confirmed his intent to defy Davis even when he was not in front of the judge.

          • Chucktech

            Oops! Sorry, I thought he was one of the gun nuts. I’ll amend my post, thank YOU!

          • zhera

            It’s easy to make mistakes here on the Interwebsy Autostrada. 🙂

          • Octavio

            I’m surprised I haven’t received any speeding tickets!!

          • zhera

            No speed limits on the Autostrada, Octavio!

          • Octavio

            Thanks. I did not know that. Zooooooom!!!!

          • Chucktech

            Plus I’m so fucking angry over this shit…

    • Schlukitz

      It is becoming increasingly clear now why the decision was made not to have Kim Davis return to her office until Friday or Monday.

      She will, more than likely, not return to the office until Monday, which will give the Christian terrorists the entire weekend to assemble and “build-up” their forces for when she once again stops issuing marriage licenses. Mat Staver already made her intentions very clear on th eday of her release from jail.

      It is beginning to look more and more like Kim is lving out her Joan or Arc fantasies, leading her army onward into battle with the cross of Jesus going on before.

      I fear that all of this is not going to end well.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Yeah, an oathkeeper bullet to her brain would be a real tragedy.

        • billbear1961

          Brain?

          • Octavio

            You’re right Bbear. She’s little more than a simple mouth, gut and anus.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Hillbilly Centipede.

          • An amoeba on the festering boil of Christianity.

          • Octavio

            More specifically, living off the puss of the festering boil of christianity.

          • Beagle

            An amoeba on a flea on a rat.

      • D. J.

        Mat Staver should be in front of the “Oath Keepers” at all times.

  • Peter Wde

    Oath Keepers, upholders and respectors of the US Constitution.

    • billbear1961

      And you know they are exactly the opposite, TROLL.

      So, as usual, fuck off.

      • Peter Wde

        no

  • Schlukitz

    It will be interesting to see if Kim Davis endorses this or decries it?

    Since her husband has already brought up the gun issue if “anyone knocks on my door”, one has to wonder if he is not instrumental in this latest revolting development?

    • billbear1961

      He got the ball rolling by bringing guns into it.

      • Schlukitz

        Absolutely.

        This is why I get so god-damned mad when the pacifists and apologists on this site start with their “Oh, pay them no mind” and “why are we giving them the attention that they crave” bullshit.

        The provocateurs keep planting the suggestions in the minds of the mentally disturbed Christian martyrs and hotheads in the very hope that one of them will break and fire the first shot and thereby unlease a bloodbath.

        • billbear1961

          If that happens, provocateurs like Cruz and Huckabee–and Staver and Perkkkins–will be in BIG trouble.

  • billbear1961

    Absolutely outrageous–anything THEY disapprove of is “illegal,” simply because these fascists say so!

    This is what comes of the constant lies the right is fed by their demagogic leaders!

    The legal governments–local, state, and federal–of this country must be prepared to DEAL with these posturing terrorists.

    This is getting totally out of hand, and legal authorities should not allow themselves to be intimidated by these thugs!

    They should make it CLEAR to them what will happen if they attempt to interfere, in ANY way, with enforcement of the LAW.

    • pickypecker

      YAY! billbear!

      • billbear1961

        Hail, Picky P, defender of JUSTICE!

    • Schlukitz

      This is what happens when Christian lawbreakers like Kim Davis are molly-coddled and handled with kid gloves by the authorities.

      The terrorists read this as weakness which only tends to embolden them.

      • Chucktech

        Letting that horrid bitch outta jail when she declared, as the jail cell door was opening, that the judge could go fuck himself is the personification of pusillanimity.

        • Schlukitz

          Indded, it is! No doubt about it.

      • Jeff Levy

        Yep Kim Davis should have already been charges with Multiple Civil Rights Violations and as of yet Zero Civil Rights Violations..

        Aka the molly-coddled and handled with kid gloves by the authorities.

        Just with that one Couple Davis did 5 times refused them of their Marriage License which is 10 Civil Rights Violations ..as she refused Both of them 5 times each.. that’s just one Couple..

        Kim Davis should have already been facing Multiple Felony Charges so far Zero…

  • Hank NYC

    This is what Homeland Security should be looking at instead of rentboys… unless they know some high peeps on the rentboy list they don’t want leaked like Madison.. MMM

  • JT

    Christofascists are nothing if not Orwellian in their use of language, calling themselves “patriots” when they’re really guilty of treason.

    • Octavio

      LOL! I heard Sister Sarah screaming that Obama’s presidency is Orwellian. She was braying at that No Nukes fest in Washington. The poor dear could barely pronounce the word, but bless her she did spit it out almost correctly — twice. And we all know she’s never read Animal Farm or 1984. She’s such a cut up. 🙂

      • coram nobis

        Couldn’t pronounce “Washington?” Or “nuclear” (neither could Bush 43). Or Orwellian perhaps.

  • Robert

    So the Oath Keepers are going to defend an oath breaker. Makes sense.

    • billbear1961

      Like all the other insanity on the right!

  • Michael Senesac

    “Rhodes said in a statement that his position has nothing to do with gay marriage.”
    But Starve, Perkins, Huckelberry and the rest will blame it on the gays.

    • billbear1961

      Yes, of course, because naturally a citizen’s right to the equal protection of the laws in a FREE society just FORCES maniacs on the right to use FORCE to prevent it from being respected.

      These criminals are showing the country EXACTLY what they are!

      They are proposing rebellion against the legal authorities of this republic.

      They’ve declared–are declaring–the LEGAL government and LEGAL actions of the courts UNLAWFUL.

      Well, it is THEY who are supporting that which is UNLAWFUL.

      This is SEDITION.

      And right-wing–no, let’s call it what it is–FASCIST politicians like Cruz and Huckabee are actively encouraging it!

      If this continues–if they continue to preach sedition–authorities should be prepared to ARREST them!

      • pickypecker

        At the very least, guys like this should be taken into custody for psychiatric evaluation. Placing my safety and the safety of the general public in jeopardy so he can play Rambo is not acceptable.

        • Octavio

          But in ‘Merikuh the police can’t just up and detain you for no good reason — unless you’re black. 🙁

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Two words:

    do·mes·tic
    dəˈmestik/
    adjective
    existing or occurring inside a particular country; not foreign or international.
    ter·ror·ism
    ˈterəˌrizəm/
    noun
    the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    • coram nobis

      Title 18, U.S. Code, is the Federal section on criminal law. 18 U.S.C. § 2331 defines it thus:

      (5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—

      (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

      (B)appear to be intended—

      (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

      (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

      (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and

      (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

      • Chucktech

        So, they’re already guilty. And not a goddam thing will be done about it.

    • Steverino

      Funny they call themselves “oath keepers,” when part of the oath many governmental officials take upon entering office (and who they oppose) is to defend the United States Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC.

      • Beagle

        But…but…but it’s the Constitution as they interpret it. Because they know the Constitution so much better than any judge that almost certainly spent 3 years in law school and then passed a bar exam, probably practiced law for a number of years, and then became a judge whose job is interpreting the Constitution and other laws.
        (sarcasm button off)

  • Irishsupporter

    We should get this news far and wide if it happens as it will kill any support for her especially if they get hostile with law enforcement officials!!

  • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

    We have our own crackpot here in Phoenix now shooting at cars on I-10. I just heard there was two more shootings this morning.

    • zhera

      Be careful! Can you avoid driving on the roads that are dangerous?

      • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

        Yes, but it’s a humungous disruption. A guy in the coffeeshop just told me that he was just on I-10 east of downtown and it’s almost empty because people are afraid to drive on it. That would be like I-5 or I-10 in L.A. or I-95 in NY being empty.

        • Octavio

          Sneak out of town and come stay with us in Henderson. We’re guaranteed at least one more week of triple-digit heat and we have a new pool boy. Chez Taco Bell has recovered its former glory. The place is quite scenic. 🙂

          • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

            I’d love that but my house is going on the market today. I’ve got hundreds of little things to do. The professional cleaning crew is in there right now making everything sparkle. And, of course, just yesterday one of the tiles on my porch fell off – perfect timing. So I need to re-grout that.

          • Octavio

            You’re moving?

          • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

            To Palm Springs if everything works out!

          • Octavio

            That may be a good move. If only PS had an international airport. Then again, we’ve got 777s blowing up on runways at McCarren. :-0

      • Octavio

        Most of the shots have hit vehicles (and people) on I-10, a hell hole of an interstate that runs through the center of Phoenix and connects everything together. It’s a major pain getting anywhere if you have to avoid it. This has been MAJOR news on Las Vegas local news, with warnings to Nevadans not to travel to Phoenix if we don’t have to.

  • they should be arrested as terrorists and sent to Guantanamo.

    • Irishsupporter

      And send her with them!

  • Secure

    Huckabee said he’d go to jail instead of her…

  • joe ho

    fanatical christian religiosity and insane proliferation of firearms join forces in a clear demonstration of american exceptionalism.

    as western civilization continues transitioning into its post-christian phase, it’s going to suck even more to be them. rough times ahead for them.

    • billbear1961

      It may suck for civilization if the legal authorities don’t stand up forcefully to these criminals AND the seditionist politicians on the right who are egging them on!

      This is getting TOTALLY out of hand!

      • pickypecker
        • billbear1961

          What every society becomes or degenerates into if it fails to stand up vigorously for the tenets of liberal–of genuine–democracy!

          It happened to the Weimar Republic–it could happen here!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-pA81QxGs

          • Beagle

            I want to believe that you’re wrong because we have a far longer tradition of small-r and small-d republican and democratic government. I want to believe you’re wrong, but I can’t be so sure.

          • billbear1961

            I want to believe I’m wrong, too.

            The greatest risk, though, to this democracy comes from people who think “it can’t happen here.”

  • Jonathan

    Y’all Queda is coming to town! These people are insane. In Florida recently I was driving down a road and saw a church sign with an “Oath Keepers” meeting notice on the church sign. (shudder) I wonder how many of them are cops?

    • Chucktech

      Really, REALLY dumb cops…

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Here’s their membership drive ad.

  • I would suggest that the “Oath Keepers” not interfere with the administration of justice. They should think carefully about Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Oklahoma City, before they commit to such a course of action.

    • Irishsupporter

      Indeed and if they do take this course of action I think the cops would be justified using lethal force on any who violently try to stop them!!

    • Chucktech

      Joann, they’re so stupid that they forget. They need to be reminded. Over and over and over again. That’s what dealing with stupidity requires.

  • Hal

    My gut feeling tells me that you don’t want to fuck around with the U.S. Government no matter how many pea shooters you have.

  • DesertSun59

    “but rather his conviction that Davis had been illegally detained by the
    federal judge who held her in contempt for violating multiple court
    orders.”

    I will place the blame directly on the media and local authorities who have allowed Mr. Rhodes to own this meme. If you allow Righties to own memes they will take them to the most absurd level. This is that absurd level. It’s time to shut down this man’s meme generator.

  • Ron Robertson

    Ok you fucking x-tian fanatics, this is the result of your shitting on everything, and pretending its gold.

  • Bob Black

    Why do I think that IF there is a confrontation it will be President Obama that backs down AGAIN and let’s them have their way and claim a victory…the same way it went down at the Bundy Ranch?

  • Tallulah

    In the end, I think this (militia?) will be educated.

  • disqus_oCvsL5SBJH

    I bet their motto is: “What Would Jesus Shoot?”

    • Octavio

      Answer: anything that moves . . . and all highway road signs.

  • JaniceInToronto

    Time for the feds to intervene.

  • GayOldLady

    These guys are just itching to pick a fight with the Federal Govt. over anything. Despite what the guy on the audio says, this isn’t about Kim Davis, it’s about gay people having the right to exercise our civil rights. The Oath Keepers are a bunch of malcontents that want to be relevant in a world where they’re increasingly irrelevant. I don’t want to see a confrontation between them and Federal Marshals, but if it comes to one, they’ll lose and Kim Davis will lose. Dumbasses!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Boy Elvis

    Sooner or later these fuckholes are going to step too far and they’re gonna get Wacoed. The government has made a very kind effort not to do so, but these dipshits just keep pushing and pushing.

  • ColdCountry

    As I’m sure others have asked…What could possibly go wrong?

  • CA2015

    What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

  • Spongebob CrankyPants

    LOL @ Christians. Crazy Christians.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      It’s all fun and games until they shoot some cops.

      But they’re white, so….

  • I’m sure the FBI already knows what is going on but just to Safe, I sent the above link as well as the link on right wing watch.org to the FBI’s counterterrorism unit… Along with links to their radio broadcast that they did today saying that they will use lethal force against law-enforcement and US military if they try to rearrest Kim Davis… In my opinion the federal government needs to organize the National Guard and/or branch of the military and send them out there because this is not a simple matter anymore this is now a massively major dangerous situation that is going to come to ahead… And I don’t want there to be bloodshed… But if these people have too many show up, and and the keyword is and if Kim Davis must violate the judges order and get rearrested… Then these people have said on Internet radio that they will use lethal force to protect her. That’s not going to go over well. We will have a major national issue on our hands… And I honestly think this is what Matt Staver and the far right want – a standoff between these people and the US military and or police system… And I think they are betting that the government will standdown versus using lethal force…to be honest I don’t think our government would stand down because the current administration would not put up with this bullshit at all

    • disqus_oCvsL5SBJH

      As the religious right becomes more violent in response to gay rights, the comparisons between segregationists in the black civil rights movement only grow stronger. This may be the deathknell of the Religious Liberty putsch, as it becomes clear that this is just Christian Sharia, not actually tolerance compatible with the First Amendment of the Constitution

      • Yup because they will eventually go so far that they will lose support of the middle-of-the-road and moderate Republicans and they will only have support of the far extreme religious right which only makes up 15% of this country… 20% absolute tops… Plus the gay and lesbian community makes up about 10% of the population of the United States. so just us gay lesbian people have almost the same voting strength as the far religious right… We even get outspend them if we want to – we just don’t because the far religious right will blindly give up their money for all these causes

        Gay & lesbian people really need to start giving money to causes to combat these groups like NOM and the family research Council… Our community need to start matching them dollar for dollar if not 2 to 1 ratio or 1.5 to 1 ratio… Most gay people are DINK. Dual income no kids and we can for outspend the religious right as far as donations go

        • fuow

          And, sadly, most gay people don’t vote.
          Nearly all hate-driven christians do.
          That is our greatest challenge – getting the A-List-Fags up off their asses and into the voting booth. Just look at how many bitches here have said they won’t vote for Hilary? How many have said ‘they’re all the same’?

    • fuow

      Well, this current administration has let every single 501 3(c) get away with tax evasion on a level beyond belief.
      I’d not bet the farm on it.

    • Davidusca

      I think the Queen just ordered a hit on Kim Davis. If I’m not mistaken, the hit man’s name is Blond. You know. Blond. James Blond.

  • disqus_oCvsL5SBJH

    Joe, I think you left off the tag “terrorism”

  • kaydenpat

    Must be nice to be White so you can oppose the law unfettered. So are these jokers going to shoot when authorities try to arrest Davis when she continues to defy the Judge’s Order?

  • Peter Wde

    Oath Keepers, making America safer and protecting our civil rights.

    • WNY

      ..

      • Peter Wde

        Done

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Well, if you’re a white Christian outlaw, sure.

    • disqus_oCvsL5SBJH

      I think most people are misinterpreting your sarcasm. The internet is tough that way.

      • zhera

        Not sarcasm; trolling. whatever subject Peter comments on, he MUST be outrageous and opposite of what he knows everyone else will think.

        Do not feed the troll.

        • disqus_oCvsL5SBJH

          I was sure hoping he was being sarcastic. Otherwise he’s endorsing domestic terrorism that’s essentially an American ISIS

          • zhera

            Think of him as our own little Grumpy Trumpy.

          • billbear1961

            as someone escaped from the same loony bin

          • billbear1961

            He’s endorsing domestic terrorism that’s essentially an American ISIS.

            He thinks that’s cute.

      • Stev84

        He is not joking. He truly is that crazy.

    • Jeff Levy

      “Oath Keepers, making America safer and protecting our civil rights.”

      If that where true they wouldn’t be on the wrong side…
      beings Kim Davis is the one Violating people’s Civil rights…

      Hopefully you was just being Sarcastic.. Cause some times it’s hard to tell without the Voice with the text..

      • Peter Wde

        Afraid I have some bad news then…

      • billbear1961

        He’s a troll, Jeff.

        • Jeff Levy

          Yeah I found that out…

          It’s Sad that his life is so miserable that he has to take up trolling to get an erection..

          On the plus Side A guy got him Hard.. 🙂

    • Stev84

      Do they also protected people from trolls like you?

      • Peter Wde

        Trolls exempted.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        “our” == white Xian conservative criminals

        • billbear1961

          protecting their imaginary “right” to cancel out their neighbours’ civil rights and impose THEIR views on EVERYONE

  • bitwise

    I’m not sure how these guys imagine this arrest would go down. If Kim Davis violates the judges order he’s going to summon her back for a hearing and then find her in contempt and remand her to the Marshals in the courthouse. These lunatics are not going to get anywhere near the event.

    • Chucktech

      … like Ted Cruz didn’t…

    • billbear1961

      I don’t think she’ll obey the summons. The Holy Martyr (and serial adulteress) operates under GOD’S authority, don’t you see??

      THAT will be the next round in this drama.

      Of course, with her in hiding, licenses will continue to be issued–unless, of course, she’s barricaded in her office.

      This is a fucking FARCE.

  • Richard

    The feds backing down from the Bundy ranch nonsense has only emboldened these fringe groups to further anarchy. Is the DHS just going to sit there and let them get away with terrorist threats?

    • fuow

      The answer to that would be:
      Yes.

    • Jmdintpa

      yes… i partly blame the week federal government for this. they allowed it to fester and now the longer this festers the bigger the explosion

    • I.Smith

      Yes unless you say they run a male escort service, then the DHS will waste no time in arresting them.

  • Gene Perry

    Gonna be interesting to see how Huckabee, Cruz & the other GOP prez candidates back-peddle when one of these “Christian Patriots” blows away a Federal officer.

    • Jerry Reiter

      Assuming they don’t join the militia.

      • Octavio

        Hucksterbee is an honorary member of several militia and organizations with strongly held religious beliefs about white supremacy. 🙂

  • Jeffrey in St. Louis

    Good grief, someone give this poor martyr wannabe a hand.

    Lord knows he’s not going to be able to drive that third nail himself.

  • Octavio

    Dear Joe:

    Love the bottom photo of a “freedom fighter” keeping aim on the crowd around the exit/entrance to Bunkerville, NV. They are still there. Ain’t no way of getting to the Utah/NV state line without having to pass through a clot of these whackos, regardless of time of day or week. They’re a keepin’ Clive Bundy protected from the evil Bureau of Land Management and the Federal Gubbernunt — godless communists each and every one of those gubbernent evil-doers. Yup. No matter where you are, whether it be in Rowan County, KY or out here in the wild and wooly deserts of the West, y’all can can be assured the militiamen are ready and more than willing to shoot you and yours for your continued freedumbs.

    • They’re still there?

      • fuow

        Yup.

        • Octavio

          And don’t forget . . . Praize Jeebuzz!

      • Octavio

        Yes. They are still there. Bunkerville has become sort of an operations training ground for them. Lots of folks show up from AZ to camp, play with their guns, and wander around looking fierce. The irony is they camp on BLM land, which is open to all citizens of the USA to use for recreation ’cause were ‘Merikuhns.

        • secretlab

          Many of them come from Yavapai County, AZ. where I’m from. In my experience, they absolutely should be taken seriously. There’s a large number of them who are current (i.e. embedded) and former law enforcement and military, and sadly, it’s not a dressup game.

          • Octavio

            Several years ago I decided to tour the Arizona Highways in mid February. I climbed into my Wrangler and headed off. Alone. Big mistake. I had my windshield smashed by folks who didn’t like the fact I had (still have) a bumper sticker that just says “MEXICO” on it. That was enough for the police in Prescott to tell me that it was all my fault, because of the bumper sticker. Had the air let out of all my tires in Oak Creek. Things were a little better in Gila Bend. Most of those residents are Mexican/American. But My first night camping at remote campsite — for which I had paid $20 for the privilege — in Organ Pipe National Monument I was rousted out of my tent by drunk militiamen who insisted I was an illegal trying to sneak into the country. They hand cuffed me and called the border police working the park/monument. When I tried to press charges against the “freedom fighters” protecting our border, I was advised by the border police not to do it. Boy. That was one fun excursion into AZ. I’ve got extended family covering large parts of New Mexico, Tucson, Yuma, San Diego, LA, all of Nevada and parts of Utah. We’ve been scraping out lives in the south west since before the Treaty of Hidalgo. Yet, if you’re white and own a gun, you’re more ‘Merikuhn than me. It’s something I don’t encounter outside of the USA. Coming back here for several months is being a lot more difficult than I imagined. I really am disgusted with the asswipery that’s being embraced by everyone. Especially when I see little dig comments by asswipe trolls that we all suffer here on JMG and all over the web.

            You are so right. These asswipes need to be regarded with extreme caution. If someone like me gets killed or arrested, there really is no recourse. But heaven forbid one of their white asses get so much as a scratch. It really tests my better nature. 🙁

          • Mike in Texas

            OMG! That is shocking. I’m so sorry those things happened to you.

          • coram nobis

            Same here. Disgraceful.

          • Jmdintpa

            im with you… i think people who pass this off are endangering themselves. i fear this country is going to see lots of violence from christians taking back america. there armed to the teeth, afraid and there shucksters preachers are nudging them along to the new civil war all in the name of god.

    • Chucktech

      The difference between the CLOVEN Bundy clusterfuck and this is that in the Bundy case, we’re talking about a scrap of fuckin’ desert that nobody really gives two shits about. In this case, we’re talking about some podunk hamlet in Appalachia that nobody gives a shi… Hmmm…

      Fuck.

  • Ninja0980

    And if these fools injure or kill the Marshals, is Fox News and other outlets going to attack the Religious Reich and blast them for whipping up the hate fest that led to it?
    We all know the answer to that.

    • Chucktech

      Actually, Fox News seems to be growing less amused or tolerant of this Kim Davis BS by the day.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Shocking but true.

    • I.Smith

      These Oath-Keeper idiots are also a threat to the Republicans who answer to big business, The crazy Christians and Huckabee’s love having them around to bark at Democrats and liberals to make them back down but they know that if they are let of their leash there will be no way of putting them back on it. So Fox news will turn against them if they do act.

      • billbear1961

        Yes, they will disown the monster THEY have helped to create.

        Fox and other right-wingers in the media will fall all over themselves claiming, falsely, that they are in no way responsible for creating and fostering these monsters.

  • David L. Caster

    Just a two-word reminder for these militias: Branch Davidians.

  • Davidusca

    The National Guard would smash them like bugs.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Just like they did with the Cliven Bundy mob?

      • Octavio

        Yup. There’s a MAJOR fail with the Cliven Bundy situation. Regardless of how unpolitically correct it would have been, the Feds should have moved in and arrested Cliven, et al, and shot and killed the “militiamen” protecting the specialness that is Cliven. As it is, they having a very difficult time just dragging his son off to jail for trial. Major fail.

    • Stev84

      Many of them probably belong to the NG

      • Jmdintpa

        exactly… the FEDS are week i blame them partly because they have allowed this to fester. the longer it festers the bigger the explosion.

  • fuow

    One good thing has come out of all of this. The christians’ pretence that ‘religious liberty’ meant just that has been ripped away. All they care about is imposing their version of ultra-far-right-extremist-christian-hatred upon everyone else.
    It’s good for the mask to come off – now, there’s no more wiggle-room for the ‘NLT’ Christians left.

    • crewman

      This is the party that Huckabee actually leads.

    • Ninja0980

      When even people on Fox News are calling you out, you know you’ve lost.

  • jg

    American Taliban is on the way!

  • Assault a federal officer and see what happens. I’m just sayin’, …

  • coram nobis

    Which way are we going? From Jim Croce (d. 1973), perhaps on point now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuXF6sF-1Ds

    • Whoa! Was Mr. Croce a reader of the future? This song couldn’t be any more timely. Thank you for posting this, I don’t remember this song. What a wonderful thinker he was, it was a sad day when he left us.

  • Michael

    Just kill them all. Put white trash back in the hollers where they belong.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Well, this can only end well when on Monday Davis shows she learned nothing and will try to prevent licenses from being issued.

    • Davidusca

      Keeping the popcorn popper on my counter top.

  • anne marie in philly

    methinks this idea will end badly…

  • Can’t wait! All out war against the government is never a pretty thing but the best result will be the death and jailing of the “Christian Patriot” militiamen. I sit with glee awaiting Monday… 🙂

  • Six Pins Delores

    It’s getting real now. This is the stuff of which religious domestic terrorists dreams a made.

  • Michael Senesac

    I’m just wondering if Perkins is somehow involved, with his connections to the KKK.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Mat Staver and all the other hate leaders are guilty if anyone should get hurt.
    They stirred up this hornets’ nest.

  • pickypecker
  • geoffalnutt

    Unfortunately for them I don’t think they have tanks, helicopters and fighter jets, but it’s cute. I hope they try to start something. Soon.

  • Trevor Powers

    I don’t believe this madness. My grandmother killed her husband because God told her to. Just because you “think” you’re being noble doesn’t mean you are. Lots of people with a delusion of grandeur believe they’re doing right. From what I remember of bible study God was our judge, not men with guns acting out what they decide God would want. I don’t think it’s a good idea to act out in God’s name. Common sense..

  • 0nest_Abe

    So the saga continues. For those of you who are not very political or are not from our fair (usually) Commonwealth, Judge David Bunning imposed a sentence of incarceration for civil contempt on Kim Davis, the County Clerk of Rowan County for her failure to comply with an Order from his Court, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky. The sentence is for a violation of an Order of the Court; not because Ms. Davis is Christian and not because Ms. Davis believes that same sex marriage is a sin.

    There are two (2) types of contempt: criminal and civil. Contempt is defined, in this case, as a willful and intentional violation of an Order of the Court. Criminal contempt means that you are in jail (or otherwise punished) for a sentence certain. Civil contempt means that the contemnor (Kim Davis) is in complete control of the duration of their punishment. Once you cease to defy an Order of the Court, the punishment stops.

    A couple of things to know:

    First, Judge Bunning was appointed by President Bush (43) and is the son of retired Kentucky Senator Jim Bunning. He is a conservative through and through. The Bunnings do not take their political beliefs lightly.

    Second, this is the only time that I can remember seeing a contemnor get through an entire appellate process before being required to comply with a Court Order. Usually, one is required to comply with an Order of the Court regardless of the appeal. If compliance is refused, then a contempt sentence is enforced, regardless of whether or not you are appealing the Order. Kim Davis got special treatment on this issue.

    Kim Davis is in jail because she willfully and intentionally violated an Order of the Court. She received all the due process allowed her (all the way to the US Supreme Court). She no longer has any cause (good or otherwise) to refuse compliance with a Court Order in a Nation of Laws.

    Third, Judge Bunning threw Ms. Davis a life preserver. After imposing a sentence for contempt, Judge Bunning took a break. When Court resumed, he interviewed the Deputy Clerks for Rowan County as to whether they would comply with his Order. Five (5) of the six (6) deputies affirmed that they would comply with his Order. He then recalled Ms. Davis and asked whether she could refrain from interfering with the deputies while they issued marriage licenses. If she would do that, then he was satisfied that she was not in contempt and could go home. Ms. Davis refused even that much. Ms. Davis’ guarantee of personal religious freedom does not extend her the right to impose those beliefs on others, particularly when she is acting as the government.

    Predictably, an outcry of judicial tyranny and religious persecution has arisen. This is not religious persecution. In the United States, we do not examine the sincerity or reasonableness of your religious beliefs in the public arena. You can believe any and everything in the name of your faith. However, the government may not deny you services based upon the religious belief of the government, its agents or employees. When that happens, then a clear violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment occurs, which is precisely what happened when Ms. Davis refused to issue marriage licenses under “God’s Authority”.

    As far as judicial tyranny goes, the outcry is completely unwarranted. Ms. Davis is subject to the jurisdiction (read authority) of the Court. She got access to justice in a way that few will ever experience. She was given special consideration at every step. This is not tyranny by any conceivable definition of the word, and to call it tyranny diminishes the claimant.

    For those who may be tempted to take the outcry seriously, let me ask you to consider whether you would tolerate a government that denied you access to services and status available to everyone else because of religious beliefs that you did not share. If we are to continue to be a nation of laws, then we must do so much better. We must stop giving attention and authority to those who seek to take us back to a time when the government cried “God Wills It” and the cry became law.

    • MickinDetroit

      “First, Judge Bunning was appointed by President Bush (43) and is the son of retired Kentucky Senator Jim Bunning. He is a conservative through and through. ”

      And, IIRC, he was rated “not qualified” by the American Bar Association’s judiciary committee during his nomination. But you know..that stuff only matters when its the black guy’s nominees.

      • Ninja0980

        Indeed he is and I have no doubt he would have upheld the ban if he had heard the case.

  • Sounds like it’s time for the US Marshals to boost their presence
    in the area as well should KIM Davis go back to court.

    • Stev84

      It’s just as ridiculous for them to wear camouflage as it is for regular police. What’s wrong with law enforcement wearing black?

  • Doc-Bryan Holliday

    US Taliban, I hope everyone of them get arrested for obstructing justice.

  • JaniceInToronto

    Please, PLEASE build a wall between the U.S. and Canada. We would feel ever so much better. Really, you people are scary neighbors from hell…

    • Don’t blame you one iota. I may be joining you.

  • It’s time for the FBI and Homeland Security to get off their asses and root this evil from our country’s breast. This is how the Taliban began, and unless we stand up to them now, we will never be free of their tyranny.

    Those who “know” me on here know that I don’t believe in, nor condone violence, ever. But if don’t adopt a “scorched earth” policy now while there is still time to kill this viper, we will be paying for it forever.

    • Jmdintpa

      they wont touch them… i think thats why they feel so powered to do this. the feds are week and the more they allow this to fester the bigger the explosion will be

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Homeland security is focused on taking down Rentboy .com, which is a clear and present danger,or something…

      • “Clear and present danger” of two adult males doing what feels good for an exchange of money for services. Good heavens, maybe its time for us to grow up past our stupid puritan heritage.

  • Mark

    Oh that’s going to go very well – I can tell…..

  • Ninja0980

    Here’s the scary truth, sooner or later one of these guy/gals is going to do more then crazy talk.
    They are actually going to carry out the acts of violence they’ve threatened to do all along.
    Let’s hope they are the only casualties when that happens.

  • Ginger Snap

    This is just so fucked up. These little fucked trigger happy NRA whores are just itching for a reason to blow their loads. I hope this time the federal marshals don’t stand down and enforce the laws of this country.

  • anothervoter1

    Amerika is one scary place.

  • bambinoitaliano

    CIA and the FBI should be on alert. The Defence department should get the military operation in place with the drones. Who said the terrorists shall not invade US again. The US has to show it’s might, no terrorists within or without shall operate on it’s soil ever.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    In case it’s not crystal clear, these guys are all white.

    • billbear1961

      You shock me!

  • tomfromthenews

    This sounds like illegal insurrection against legal authorities.

  • TK in GBC TX

    According to their web page on the “about” link, oath keepers are to defend the constitution. Doesn’t that mean the 14th amendment, as well? You know the pesky little amendment upon which the supreme court based marriage equality.

    • Robert

      No, not the constitution as interpreted by the SCOTUS…. the interpretation as interpreted by them (or Mike Huckabee)..

      What this really means is their interpretation of the bible.

  • RLPulliam

    It’s great that a cause exists that draws these dung beetles out. It makes it easier to target them.

    • Robert

      They were allowed to stop motorists in Nevada and check their ID.. The feds did nothing in a sparsely populated desert. They’re afraid of another Waco or Ruby Ridge. I can’t see them taking them on. Unfortunately.

  • Adonisus

    This is starting to get a little too reminiscent of the Black Shirts in Italy.

    No…I’m not trying to make some instant comparison to fascists, I mean how they operate. A major sign of political instability in a first world nation is when violent political cadres begin operating with nigh-impunity due to either a general unwillingness on the part of the State to interfere, or with unspoken approval from the State itself.

    • billbear1961

      It is NOT too early–nor are you mistaken–to make these accurate comparisons.

  • trouble94114

    Nope, no chance in the slightest that this might go south.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    With the traffic/delivery restrictions soon in effect for PopeFest ’15, I should probably stock up on my thoughts and prayers now …

  • Geezus Christ

    Oh, my. Wouldn’t it just be terrible if Kim Davis got caught in an exchange of gunfire and took a bullet for Jesus? Awful, just awful.

    • Jmdintpa

      i want to be there to see it happen.

    • Hal

      Now, now, don ‘t wish ill upon others. Karma does not like that at all.

    • coram nobis

      No, let her end up in the forgotten bin, alongside some of the other 15-minute famers like Joe the Plumber or Lindsay Lohan, something even Trivial Pursuit forgets.

  • Mark

    And where oh where is Miss D?? She’s aware they are there – and she hasn’t denounced their presence – which means she supports them being there. Then there is Huck and Matt on both sides – feeding her bullshit and stoking her on. She loves the attention, the ‘fame’, the cards and letters – she is finally a ‘somebody’. And now she supports violence, and what will be, a bloody confrontation….

    Fucking puppet.

    • Robert

      Don’t be surprised if Huckabee is behind arranging to have them called in.

    • billbear1961

      She’s an insane FOOL.

  • MDB

    I double-dog, no, TRIPLE-DOG dare them to fuck with THESE Federal Marshalls.

    http://cdn.kizaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Us-marshalls-team.jpg

    • LonelyLiberal

      I’d fuck with those federal marshals. Guns would be going off left and right.

      • billbear1961

        Guns?

  • Jan Wesselius

    Bunch of militia anarchists threating US Marshalls, over a fanatic Jesus martyr, what could possible go wrong?

  • Mister Don

    A-Popcornalypse!

  • Jmdintpa

    i say go ahead and pull that trigger. go ahead and start that new civil war. if the god you worship is that set against equal treatment for all people and you want to go to war then bring it. redneck white straight christians arent the only people that own guns. can you imagine the outrage if a group of armed muslims came to the defense of some muslim forcing his underage daughter to get one of those female circumcisions. the damn FBI and police would be all over. Can you imagine a group of heavily armed black men in fatigues showing up to protect a black person from the FEDS. I blame part of this on the Feds they have been week and not stood up to these terrorist in the past and its going to get violent before it gets better.

  • LAguy323

    There’s enough room at Leavenworth for these perfidious zealots.

    • Robert

      Forget Leavenworth… send them to Guantanamo with the other terrorists who acted on religious convictions.

  • bob

    Sick and disturbed person defending another sick and disturbed person! But their position has nothing to do with gay marriage, yea , right . lol

  • Tony Hinojosa

    Oh goodie! the Taliban has an army in the USA now!

    • rabbit_ears

      Franchising!

  • LADY MABELINE

    Guns and God. What could possibly go wrong? Looks like the governor is going to have to have the National Guard mobilized.

  • Brett Stewart

    whoa…

  • Jan Wesselius

    Is this how the Spanish Inquest began ? History is doomed to repeat itself.

  • joe ho

    american exceptionalism in action.

    we were the only country that had to have a civil war in order to abolish slavery.

    and we try to pass ourselves off as the bastion of freedom and equality.

    the south has been an embarrassment to this country since the civil war.

    • billbear1961

      before, during and since

  • Peter J Smith

    Right Wing, “Christian” militia members be warned, I’m your worst nightmare, an armed, Left Wing, atheist! I’m more than willing to hurry these bigots off to meet their “god” in person.

  • Just wait until the Jews for Jezebels show up!

  • chris james

    Oath Keepers…read that as men with small penises and large guns. Go for the US Marshals and they will personally get to meet Seal Team 6, but not in a good way. Just another Morons for Jeebus group.

  • Dave Meek

    Just try and stop a federal marshal, what an idiot and if he shoots at them bubbye!

  • Tommy Mullen

    Oathkeeper, what a joke. Nothing more then a terrorist group.

    • billbear1961

      Who’d piss in their pants if law enforcement or the national guard opened fire on them.

  • Targetdog

    Religious bullies with guns…aren’t those called Terrorists?

    • Robert

      They are…

    • D. J.

      That’s what I call them.

  • Bad Tom

    Note our heavily armed Oath Taker in the picture appears to be a patron of TacticalGear.com, where he can get all manner of manly army-type things, except for the actual guns.

    For awhile, I thought he was wearing motorcycle gloves, because they look like the ones I do when I’m on the track (except mine are more rad.) Wonder if they cost as much as the track versions? Mine were $190, but I might actually need them to fend off road rash and prevent hand-mangle, in which case they will be worth every penny. They are actually rather uncomfortable, and take some getting used to and breaking in, before they can be used effectively.

    However much his cost, I bet he still can’t catch return fire bullets.

    • billbear1961

      Yes, you are totally rad, Bad Tom, sweetie!

      🙂

  • D. J.

    The “Oath Keepers” got elected when, by whom, for what?
    Charge them with sedition, arrest them, jail them and let them stand trial. Then throw them in prison.
    Gawd speaks “to” them, “through” them bullshit is past old.

    • Robert

      Shoot them if necessary. It is a terrorist group challenging the authority of the US government.

    • billbear1961

      Even if they HAD been elected, that doesn’t give them the right to break the law.

      If they attempt to impede law enforcement, what you advocate is what MUST happen.

  • Robert

    “Rhodes said in a statement that his position has nothing to do with gay marriage, but rather his conviction that Davis had been illegally detained by the federal judge who held her in contempt for violating multiple court orders.”
    So now we have citizens who lead a group of thugs who are deciding ‘hey, I don’t agree with a judge detaining this person, so I will send in my troops” ????
    Ah… no! I have a lot of patience, but I have absolutely no patience for bullshit like this. If Davis interferes with her deputies doing the job, then she must go back to jail. And if Bunning has to send in a cadre of armed federal marshals to take her then so be it. And if there is violence this leader of this Christian Patriot nonsense will be responsible. If Kim gets shot in the process of it, it will be his fault.
    And when it’s over, any and all of them surviving should be rounded up and sent to Guantanamo to spend the rest of their lives with the other terrorists who acted on their own out of their own religious convictions.
    The government tolerated it with the Bundy situation, but I think people are frustrated that this group is doing whatever they want.

  • Robert

    The problem is that because of Waco and Ruby Ridge, the feds are afraid anymore to take on religious extremists. That is why they stood down at Waco and may be why they might let Kim be now. They shouldn’t, but that is my fear. And it’s not going to change until the American public is mightily pissed of at their impotence.

  • DrSnake

    (deep sigh) Technically, she was taken into custody in the courtroom. So these “Christian patriot” knuckleheads plan to try and enter a Federal courthouse armed and prevent Federal marshals from doing their duty? I hope Raylan Givens is there to kick some ass.

    • Robert

      Yeah, but with them in the area, expect Davis to pull a Cliven Bundy and simply not show up to court. Then the feds would have to go get her, which is where the problems could/would commence.

      • billbear1961

        And while the stupid cow is on the run, licenses will continue to be issued in the Rowan County clerk’s office.

        The Light of the Constitution will SHINE forth, while the advocates of anarchy and hatred will hide in CAVES!

  • Robert

    They know where Bunning lives… he has family that could be harmed. The government would be afraid of another Waco or Ruby Ridge… My concern is he will back down and allow Kim to do her thing.

    We might need to send in the Pink Brigade…

    • billbear1961

      They cannot allow the law to be flouted.

      If Obergefell can be ignored, what ruling cannot?

      The Constitution–the very Rule of LAW–is at stake.

      They cannot allow that to come unravelled because some grotesquely ignorant scum think they have a right to play GOD, to decide which “sinners” THEY will forgive and which THEY will punish.

      If federal authorities fail to act, they fail in their sworn DUTY to the Supreme Law of the Land!

  • abqdan

    Would the federal authorities please do the right thing this time and kill these terrorists? They should have wiped them out in the Bundy incident. I don’t care who you are or what your agenda is – wave an assault rifle at members of the public, the police, or government officials, and you you are history my friend.

    • Robert

      If these guys were black they’d have been killed in Nevada… I hate to say it, but that is what I think.

      • billbear1961

        You may hate to think or say it, but you’re quite right.

  • Happy Dance

    Christian terrorists…CHRISTIS!!

    • coram nobis

      Oaf Keepers.

  • National Guard — or maybe just a couple of drone strikes.

  • Okay this is terrorism.

    • billbear1961

      Yup

  • Queequeg

    Therein lies the danger of letting people get awy with breaking the law. White trash vigilanties now think they have the right to “defend freedom”, their own, of course. Troops should have gone into the Bundy compound and they should not be intimidated by these good Christian soldiers.

  • Scott Falkner

    Oh good, finally a voice of reason.

  • metrored

    Hearing this guy threaten a judge reminds me that I still need to watch the Narcos finale.

    • Queequeg

      Is the series worth watching? Now a genre I usually watch, but it looks interesting.

      • metrored

        It’s kind of worth it just to see what Colombia looks like. The storytelling isn’t the best but the subject matter is super fascinating and the acting is good. The guy who plays Escobar does a really good job though if you’re a native Spanish speaker you might not like his accent (he’s Brazilian and I’ve read that it shows).

        • Queequeg

          Thanks. I will probably check it out. Right now, binging on Dexter.

  • j.martindale
    • billbear1961

      Along with their waist measurements.

      • j.martindale

        Ouch. I am a 36 waist. Still, am 6’5″–but you are very close to embarrassing me.

        • billbear1961

          YOU aren’t a fascist.

          There is therefore no correlation.

          🙂

  • Jumper

    These Oath Keeper asshats sound eerily similar to the “enemies both foreign and domestic” I swore an oath to protect this country from….

  • Luke Fawcett

    And just how does Jesus fit in here?

    • billbear1961

      He doesn’t.

      How is it humanly possible to get any further away from the Sermon on the Mount than these psychotics have?

  • Jerry Fred Kolbe

    THERE IS NO JESUS IN THIS. THIS IS STATE’S RIGHTS, TEA PARTY POLITICS. WITH A HELPING OF INSURRECTIONIST TREASON THROWN IN.

  • Kenneth J. Masse

    Another group of radicals.

  • Loren Drzal

    If Davis is to be arrested again, she will be first summoned to the courtroom. I guess these fools haven’t thought that far ahead. That said, if they attempt to intimidate officials or incite violence, they, themselves need to be locked up. Yet another extreme group of “Christians” wants some TV time. Nice people that Davis and her ilk associate with.

  • Mick Gaughan

    Time to arrest the Oath Keepers

  • Joseph Miceli

    So they are officially a terrorist group fomenting sedition against the United States. Good to know!

  • NIFP

    Nice to see Waco and Ruby Ridge moving east. I’m sure that’s just what Rowan county needs.

  • Helivet

    I did not know that oafs could keep an oath.

  • Officer McGinty

    Satan has the right by the neck…..and that has to be dealt with..which is awkward..because its NUTS!

  • freethinker666

    The minute the lead starts flying they will be peeing their panties and crying for mommy.

  • bebekashmir

    Kill them all. At this moment they’re making public threats of armed violence. This is what snipers are for.

  • Bonni Elizabeth Hall

    And these people are NOT terrorists because….?

  • David Schultz

    Oath Keepers? Perhaps they should see what Jesus had to say about oaths.
    Matthew 5:33-37

  • Relativicus

    Thing is, she was arrested in court. Is she planning on ignoring future orders to appear? Are these clowns planning on surrounding the county building when she goes to work? And are they going to have a stand-off with local police? Do they even understand this isn’t a federal matter? A billion questions present themselves…

  • PipeWatkins

    Interesting that the Right Wing Conservatives has been screaming about ISIS infiltrating America…it has through there own kind.

  • horrorqueen420

    Christian Terrorists

  • Vegan Rob

    It truly seems that the most religious people in the world are also the most insane. These people are literally living a life of dementia and fairytales. Frightening how many morons walk the Earth amongst us.

  • Jude Newton

    What they need to do is go to AZ along I-10 and find the bastard who’s shooting at cars. Do something proactive and meaningful if they want to play police officer.

  • For My Liberty

    The “other side of the law? FYI…Kentucky LAW is that Homosexual marriage is ILLEGAL…and FYI….SCOTUS cannot MAKE LAWS…

    • trouble94114

      Actually, no, Kentucky law places gender restrictions on marriage, i.e. one man/one woman. SCOTUS didn’t “make a law”. They simply said that the restrictions that Kentucky’s law (and others like it) placed on gender were in conflict with the 14th Amendment and therefore unconstitutional (part of SCOTUS’s job) . The remainder of Kentucky’s marriage laws remained intact and valid.

  • Erik Larsen

    Looks like they will now be called the Oath Breakers and have completely destroyed their validity.

  • FrizzHed

    Oooo. Is this the beginning of prying their toys “from my cold, dead hands” utterance? I sure hope so. Pass the popcorn …

  • MorallyCorrect2

    These groups will attract every crazy loon who wants to strut around with a gun.

    At the Cliven Bundy stand off the OathKeepers were drawing guns on other militia people who were also attracted to that mess. I can foresee the liklihood of some sort of accidental mass shooting if one guy gets an itchy trigger finger or even trips over his own feet while carrying a gun.

    No nice way to put it. These gun people are totally crazy.

  • Christopher Smith

    These are psychopathic ‘religious’ terrorists. They should have been dealt with LONG AGO.

  • TexPlant

    Where is Oprah… you go to jail….you go to jail hell you all go to jail!!

  • J Ascher

    Just wait until these “patriots” meet up with heavily armed marshals or state/national guard types!

  • christine Adsit

    Hahaha this will go good for the Christian cause lol
    Given it ten more years and just might be the end of that bigoted
    Faith

  • Paula

    If these guys are such tough x-tian warriors, why don’t they organize and go to fight ISIS? Then they could live up to their bragging.

    • christine Adsit

      Because isis is for real
      These guys are pretend and no the government will nit anyone hurt them
      So they squak boxes

  • Charles Ford

    Here we go folks! It’s school desegregation all over again. Militia going against what will have to be enviably the state national guard in order to maintain the law. This may be the beginning of our next civil war!

  • Brent Slensker

    Then later, there will be a gratuitous cop-killing. http://www.foxnews.com/…/las-vegas-shooting-officers…/

  • Rik Rina

    Keep religion and politics separate…especially with freaks carrying guns…or I will shoot you god…dead…pathetic amerika

  • Good. Now maybe the federal government will do something about these assholes that should have been done last year. I miss Janet Reno.

  • teedofftaxpayer

    They were a bunch of thugs in Nevada and they’ll be a bunch of thugs in Kentucky. Hopefully someone puts them in their place because it goes to their heads if it hasn’t already. Clive Bundy is POS who doesn’t pay his bills, I guess that qualification for Republican-Trump doesn’t either.

    • lizdhm

      The government backing down in Nevada was an exceptionally bad idea.

      • teedofftaxpayer

        I agree. But somehow I think they were afraid of another Waco. Something tells me this is going to end very badly. Some law enforcement people might be killed but the “defenders” might get wiped out.

  • Adrian M. Kleinbergen

    Traitorous vermin! Setting themselves up as some kind of independent state that thinks it can overrule the country’s laws? They are an under-educated rabble who think that weapons somehow make them men. Coarse brutes and miscreants.

  • Gregory Pennington

    I guess the Oath Keepers talk about the Constitution is just that all talk.

    • lynden55

      Like most uber conservatives the only accurate interpretation of the constitution is their own.

  • CaliforniaDude

    if they get violent throw them all in prison with the gangs

  • Lady Bird Bachmann

    I spent thousands of hours on my knees praying my gay away. Thanks to God it worked and now I have Michele as my wonderful Christian husband.

  • wagnerfilm

    Um. Isn’t this pretty much flat-out domestic terrorism?

  • DumbHairyApe

    All these gun-worshippers just use the second amendment and the constitution as an excuse to hang ther weapon fetish on. They just want some reason to carry around their detached penis and expose themselves to others. I think it’s really a sign of some mental disorder.

  • arby

    They need to pick up these zealot delusional clowns.

  • william barr

    they say you are a bigot if you don’t like gay marriage. Is being a bigot as bad as a gay person trying to force normal people to accept it. Even GOD hates it. Being a bigot must be a good thing now

  • Maybe they need some Asian Women from the add on the right?

  • OldCowboy 2

    Sounds like it’s time to roll out the Screaming Eagles to put these pukes down.

  • jiff363

    They should be shot like rabid dogs these wannabe cowboys. They’re nothing but treasonous terrorists.

  • Reece Adin Hart

    So their idea of “what would Jesus do” is grab a bunch of assault rifles and threaten to kill people. Me thinks they haven’t read their good book

  • Ethan Luke Martin

    Pathetic – why weren’t they arrested?

  • TexPlant

    Lawless hillbillies do not make our laws, interpret our laws or have a right to enforce our laws (or prevent them from being enforced). The only thing they have demonstrated through their rhetoric is the desire to break our laws and we know where people like that belong!

  • Storbritannien_Dansker

    Yet another “Joe the Plumber” incident of insanity.

  • Bob Pineo

    What a pathetic little douche nozzle. Nice knuckle gloves, douchebag.

  • Frankenstien

    God bless America! Where if you say you are a patriot, devout Christian or a rioting thug for racial equality you get patronized instead of getting your’ ass dealt with like a criminal should.

  • RedBearded T

    I’ve agreed with some of what the Oath Keepers have done. But this is just ridiculous. If this comes to blows I hope every “Oath Keeper”(this makes them opposite of an oath keeper) gets shot in the knee.

  • SnuffRightie

    Just shoot these losers.

  • Lynn Scott

    a bunch of terrorists…just like the group who shows up to protest soldier’s funerals.

  • John Garland
  • disqus_H2BJZ2lgBq

    Somebody has to stand against unlawful laws…Go Patriots

  • Matt

    Wow… way to go Oath Keepers, your destroying everything your group stood for… She broke the law, she goes to jail… you getting in the way of the court over a small matter like this is not only against the fundamental rules your group was founded on but is a huge disgrace to anyone who would consider themselves part of the group. a TRUE oath keeper (though none would interfere) would be on the other side, helping the marshals eliminate the terrorists guarding that despicable woman.

  • Randall Goguen

    Sorta like bringing a retarded American knife to a whole American Police force and military fight.

    When Fascism Comes to America, It Will Have a Bible in One Hand and a Gun in the Other.

  • RedFaced1

    So, so , so much stupid.

    Why are many people in Kentucky the way that they are? Is it the water? Their education system, perhaps?

    • Don’t be a snob.

      Nice! Your comment about Kentuckians added so much to the conversation. Generalized statements say more about you than them Mr.Tighty Whitey. You do realize they are a minority..albeit a big mouthed one? They are stupid for the same reasons the racist hillbillies down your street are. They are backward fools lorded over by their’ ignorant clergy and their’ concubines sitting in the front rows of church. They are in small concentrated, isolated pockets to make sure no new ideas break through and they always yell the loudest when they are told to.

  • Jess.

    Ain’t them Hayseeds cute?

  • Su Excelencia

    These Christian warriors look a bit overfed. Gluttony is a sin. So is sloth.

  • TheChiefDude

    The sheriff referenced in this article has not been the Sheriff since 2014. “In a phone call with Jackson County, Kentucky, Sheriff Denny Peyman and
    other local Oath Keepers activists, Rhodes said that he was on his way
    to Kentucky to help with the Davis operation.” Either the article is incorrect or MR. Peyman lied in the phone call and has control issues.

  • Alaska Loon

    Should have just fired Kim Davis and revoked her license for life, instead of jumping to extremes and jailing her. Because now it’s a war of escalation, and each side is gonna answer back more and more harshly. Until everyone loses.

  • devious_minds

    When the ‘Oath Keepers’ start shooting they will soon be labeled the terrorists they really are. Up to this point all they have done is waved these large weapons as threats. I have never seen any of them pull the trigger in a live situation.

  • Beth Harvey

    the jack boots are goose stepping through kentucky.

  • Mike Parks

    If they are anything like the idiots that patrol the border half of them are flying on Meth

  • Steven Little

    I agree she shouldn’t be arrested she should be removed from her job. If she really held these convictions she would have quit and found another job instead she wants to be famous and get a bunch of money raised in her name. These guys are misdirected in their convictions which is too bad because they likely aren’t bad people, but the idea that they are threatening to use armed resistance against police doing their job is a horrible idea and misguided. Picking to fight on the side of a bigot who is trying to make herself a martyr and a rich one at that is a terrible idea. If they want to help people why don’t they raise money and collect food for the poor and if they want to fight why don’t they see if they can get work as civilian security contractors in the middle east and fight ISIS.

  • Ruth Austin Ikramov

    Big bunch of thugs is all they are, she broke the law and was arrested for for breaking that lawful order. Just because your a group of overgrown idiots with guns doesn’t make you the “king” of the land nor are you “god” and have no business making threats and you should be arrested for that. Hopefully you all do something stupid as usual so police have a reason to use deadly force to wipe you out period.

  • Tyrion4Prez

    So the oath keepers are protecting an oath breaker? I wonder, would Kim Davis kill anyone who worked on the Sabboth or would she round up a lynch mob? It says to do that in the bible also. Would she stone to death any farmer who plants two different crops side by side? Would she kill people who wore clothing made of two different cloths? These are all in the bible too yet I dont see her going out of her way to do Gods work.

  • ISRF

    ???? Incredible that people can be that unhinged and completely whacko.
    Just domestic terrorists …. nothing more.

  • Robert Adams

    Amazing how the losers and thugs of this world are always attracted to these types of “patriotic” groups.

  • AlfalfaDoLittle

    What a bunch of Fuqtards.

  • phantomreader42

    I’ve seen some hyperbole calling Kim Davis a traitor (technically her actions are only discrimination, conempt of court, theft by deception, and sedition), and of course right-wing death cultists call ANYTHING they don’t like treason because they don’t know what words mean. But this time, this is actually, literally treason, or at the very least preparation for it. This is an armed pseudo – military terrorist organization openly declaring their intention to commit lethal violence against agents of the United States governnent. They are levying war against the United States of America. These “oath keepers” are not only violating whatever “oath” they might have dishonestly sworn to this country, THEY ARE COMMITTING TREASON!!!

  • baruchzed

    If you go to the Oath Keepers website and read the comments, the majority of the Oath Keepers posting there do NOT agree with Kim Davis and do NOT agree that Oath Keepers should defend her. Interesting. http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/oath-keepers-offer-of-protection-for-embattled-clerk-kim-davis/

  • Tommy Lenin

    This is how low income republicans resolve their differences.

  • Law Picks

    Are they really gonna fire on US Marshalls??? When they tell us minorites that we should do whatever the police and courts tell you and just sort it out later in court? If these people were black Fox would call for their immediate arrest. And I know this isnt about race but it shows how different things in this country are seen.

  • Tommy Lenin

    Isn’t Davis the government official trying to take away our Constitutional rights?

  • Incognito

    too bad so many of you can’t see the big picture..

    • Bad Tom

      And that would be what?

  • shade421

    Yes by all means defend someone who is breaking the law, by shooting cops. Makes perfect sense, there is something fundamentally wrong with christians who think like this…

  • deadisdead

    BIGOTS LIVES MATTER

  • jeff cox

    Let them do it … and then put them all in front of a firing squad after they’ve been convicted of insurrection!

  • jimmylightfoot

    Shoot the Traitors dead. No complaints here.

  • SouthPaw

    DOJ – tap these guys phones, computers, track them everywhere they go. A number of judges will sign off on the warrant.

  • Steve Morandi

    When did Oathkeepers become a Christian group? I have doubts about this article

  • Robert Arco

    I will give every one of you God hating gun hating libertards one warning. You have been so indoctrinated to the left leaning push to socialist Marxism that you cannot even see your own demise. When the time comes, and I promise, it is coming soon as those who see know, you will wish for people like the oathkeepers to come protect you. You don’t even have clue what an oathkeeper is do you? They have served and taken an oath to protect and defend the constitution. Something our elected leaders like to forget in order to protect (so they say) the ignorant masses like you.
    These same people you are bashing are no different than the founding fathers and militia that helped us overturn a tyrannical government and create a new nation. But I am sure many of you are too blind to see what is going on. Do you think you are represented? That you are heard? No, the only way you are heard is if you surrender your religion, put on your gay suit and surrender your riights. You have a criminal candidate running for office saying we should abolish the bill of rights. If tha tdoesnt scare you then why are you afraid of a county clerk and oathkeepers? Time to get your heads out of your butts and understand the big picture.

    • Tommy Lenin

      Low income republican logic

    • Dan McLeod

      You’re a shining example of why so many people across the world mock Americans.

      • Robert Arco

        Actually, I represent what is right about America. The world mocks America because of the liberal left that has left this country emasculated. They mock America over our inept and dangerous President who has ceded the power of a great nation over to the world power.
        I am the founder of the American Rights Movement. I am a constitutionalist. I work with Representatives and Senators every day trying to bring sanity back to our laws and our political structure. I fight against the rampant racism going on in this country that is merely a front for a deeper agenda designed to divide our nation. I bring information to the people on a daily basis so they too understand they have a voice and don’t have to be commodities in a power structure designed to strip them of individual rights.
        Attacks on the second amendment ? 1st amendment free speech zones in colleges ? Affirmative defense laws that allow a person to be guilty until proven innocent. All the works of a uneducated and indoctrinated left that spurns facts and embraces emotion.
        I stand up for America tangibly. What do you do besides sit on your butt absorbing the leftist drivel ?

        • Glen

          You’re quite delusional. The United States currently spends more on military expenditures than the next 10 countries COMBINED. And yet that’s not good enough for you right wing lunatics.

          The world (the modern industrialized world) isn’t mocking the United States for our ‘being emasculated’ by the left. They are mocking us for being so beholden to right wing forces of ignorance and stupidity, religious loons, who put us at the very bottom of the list of modern industrialized nations for percentage of the population that believes in science (like evolution), that is the only modern industrialized nation left with a death penalty, and has a clown car full of ignorance-waddling candidates representing the 2nd major political party in this nation (Republicans). Among so many other right wing embarrassments.

          Apparently to you Robert, it’s perfectly fine for our nation to be backwater ignorant barbaric hicks, just so long as we are feared. Meanwhile in our ignorance as the scientific understood world of reality is ignored and mocked by the Robert Arco’s of this world, we doom ourselves.

          • Robert Arco

            Far from delusional. I am a risk mitigator by trade. Unlike you I do not take things at face value nor do I look to just today. I look at history for perspective and I look to the future for what “might be”. You on the other hand have a narrow view of the world that suits you and be damned to everyone else. Sorry, that is a head in the sand attitude. We do not have 10 times the budget and regardless; if we have an inability to use it, if we are not strategically prepared then we lose. It is a proven fact, not supposition, that it is in fact the left that has emasculated this nation, stripped the rights in the constitution and set us up on a path to socialism. It is also a fact that socialism doesn’t work. so wave your gay flag, go give ISIS a hug (as your socialist president wants you to do ) but to cast us in the light of backwoods hicks? LOL….We are the most educated, the most fact based and most loyal part of this nation. One only has to look at the debates on Iran to see this. Republican after republican presented facts on why it is a harmful deal. The democratic response ? Its not the best but it feels good. That is typical of the left. I have seen the left get laws passed freely admitting that it will most likely do nothing but it will make people feel safer.
            so please, please, please. When Muslims have taken over cities as they have in the UK and France, when you are crying out for help and wish to GOD (no atheists in foxholes) for someone to save you, please recall your words here and your denigration of the people that warned you in advance.

          • Glen

            I can see we are dealing with the tin foil hate, conspiracy theory, paranoia brigade here.

            You’re living in socialism. It’s called SOCIETY, the very root and foundation of socialism. It’s a means by which we (as our species has long evolved to be) band together for the good of the whole and ultimately the good of ourselves and our family. In any event you don’t seem to really understand what true socialism actually is. Here’s a hint: It’s not socialized health insurance.

            But feel free to find some remote island for you and your friends where you can live in your anarchist (or theocratic) utopia.

            Now why would we hug ISIS, when we are fighting their spiritual brethren right here. The right wing Christian fundamentalists who would have their religious doctrine imposed upon others, and as is evidenced, those who would take up arms to see it imposed.

            Your mind is clearly quite clouded if you think the Democratic position on the Iran nuclear deal is “Meh. It just ‘feels’ good.” The Democratic position takes into consideration the host of realities in the world that we are dealing with here. It’s not one based on irrational fears and desire for aggression. The feelings those on the right are guided by.

            And lastly, yes there are MANY atheists in fox holes. It’s an abject lie that people ‘find god’ when their life is threatened. Although your belief that this is true suggests to me that you seriously doubt the existence of your god, but for when your get scared, which you often do, and therefore cry out for salvation.

          • Robert Arco

            I could see the tin foil hate moniker if I did not or could not support what I say with facts (something you liberal socialists HATE). Society is NOT socialism. What a bastardization of the definition. So the John Birch Society is socialist? The Audubon Society ? Monarchical Society is socialist ? How about Communist Society, Democratic Society? Silly person – Time to go to school.

            We live in a constitutional republic. Not a democracy; not socialism. That means majority does not rule because majority could undermine rights. For example, in YOUR society , 51% against gays means – No gays. In a constitutional republic, even if it was 90% against, they have constitutionally protected rights.

            Now as to hugging ISIS..it is YOUR group that has said that. Your President has said we need to show them understanding. But then again he was raised by a Marxist father and communist mother so the apple cannot fall far from the tree.

            Christian fundamentalists do not rule this country. They just want to be heard and treated with at least the same respect as the gay flag wavers. They are not. Don’t believe in God? Great, that is your right. But don’t try to take their rights away. Black lives matter ? No they don’t because ALL lives matter.

            You are arguing with a rights activist who is more fair than you could ever hope to be because I do see both sides and when I see disparity, THAT IS WRONG. Gay Straight white black Christian atheist. Either they all count equally or none do.

            You can go ahead and get your last word (drivel) because I have learned over time Its like arguing with a toddler crying for candy at the check out line. Common sense and reasoning doesn’t work. I just say “NO”

          • Glen

            Hey if you want to define socialism more broadly than what it truly is (as an economic and political system), to include the laws of the United States (which are NOT socialism), then I see no reason not to broaden the definition of socialism to include the whole of what we mean by society. No, not the Audubon Society, society as the grouping of people (or other animals) working together for the common good.

            Socialism is a system of economics and politics where the means of production and distribution are owned by the society, by the State.

            This is not the United States, even while we have some socialized facets of such things. Like Amtrack, the civilian space program, the postal system, etc… By-and-large the means of production and distribution are not owned by the government.

            Various services and functions are best controlled by the State and including the entire population. Social Security, Medicare (and what ought to be a universal health insurance system), etc…

            These things are not socialism. Regulations are not socialism. (In the strict sense of the term. Though in the broad – society IS socialism sense of the term, they are). And in that sense they are NOT bad. They are quite good. And quite what WE the People want.

            As to ISIS, give me a break. Obama has never once said “We need to show ISIS understanding.” He’s been as unequivocal in his condemnation of them as anyone on the right or left has been. And ISIS is FAR more in opposition to the things the left stands for than the things the right has stood for. But perhaps you are equating all Muslims with ISIS.

            Christian fundamentalists DO want to rule the country. They’ve been trying to insert themselves and their religious beliefs into every facet of our government, including public schools. They want to see their religious beliefs imposed in law. And they want to be given special privileges, under the false notion that this is a Christian country that was made by and for Christians.

          • Robert Arco

            What world are you living in ? WE THE PEOPLE is not socialism. We the people is non-interference by big government. It is allowing people to do for themselves and not people in my pocket “for the common good”. Socialism surrounds us and it is what is destroying this nation. If you stifle free enterprise in favor of government control, society fails. More and more look to the government to supply their needs .so where does the government get it from ? Those willing to work – and are taxed to support those not or those insisting everything is a social program. You said

            Socialism is a system of economics and politics where the means of production and distribution are owned by the society, by the State.
            CROSS OUT SOCIETY
            The state decides what is good for you and you have no say. No rights. No freedom because the allegiance is not to the people as individuals but to the collective. So if the collective decides tomorrow homosexuality to an abomination – guess what ? Up against the wall. Speak up ? You are a danger to the state. Up against the wall.
            As to Obama;s statements, they are on record. But I cant expect a fantasy guy like you to bother with facts. PLEASE, stop using WE the people because when you do, I don’t see the constitution as It should be…I see a funny suit and hat and a red flag in red square. Please, go join a collective and get the hell out of my America

          • Glen

            So sorry that We The People, in the representation of our government, have told private industry that “NO! For your extra profit, you cannot poison us. No you cannot damage, destroy, or threaten our environment and the very ecosystem that sustains human life. No you cannot endanger the health, safety, and lives of your employees. No you cannot cut corners because only ONE in a thousand people will get violently ill or injured. No you cannot pay employees in Ramen noodles. Among the many other well reasoned and rational rules and regulations that the government, society (socialist thing that it is), the PEOPLE have put into place to protect ourselves, our families, and our fellow Americans from the callous uncaring greed of those who couldn’t care less.

            More-and-more look to the government to supply their needs? Oh really. And that has NOTHING whatsoever to do with income and wealth for the 99% remaining relatively flat over the last 30 years, while the top 1% has seen their wealth increase by over 400%. And when did that all start? When Regan cut taxes on them dramatically. The people at the top of the societal pyramid, where the hard work, effort, and ingenuity of those lower down is funneled up to them, taking more and more for themselves, while giving less and less to everyone else.

            Supply side economics is a proven failure. You take the money out of the lower and middle classes and you get what we’ve gotten. A horribly skewed distribution of wealth.

            Do you want to see fewer people relying on the government for their basic needs? Bring back the higher tax rates on the very wealthy. Bring back what was essentially a Maximum Wage. A 95% highest tier tax bracket. What does and DID that do once upon a time? It told the CEO’s and executives and business owners, STOP. Don’t take any more riches of the people’s hard work and efforts for yourself, because you will instead be giving it to Uncle Sam. And what did they do? Instead of getting their 5% of every dollar over the next 10 million + or whatever the amount was, they distributed that wealth back on down the line to the employees, or reinvested it into the company.

            Secondly lower the tax rate on the middle-class. Economies are driven from the bottom up. The more money you put into the hands of the lower and middle classes, the stronger the economy is. They spend their money. They drive up demand. Businesses must create jobs to meet that demand which puts even more money into the hands of the lower and middle classes.

            Third pass a Constitutional Amendment tying Congressional pay to no more than 2 times the median income. This will make Congress have a very vested interest in increasing that median income, rather than serving their corporate overlords.

            As to your imagined scenario of ‘the collective’ deciding gay people should be terminated, that is not something which is possible in a nation which has a Constitution like ours which protects individuals liberties. Take this whole gay marriage battle as a case in point. Furthermore, when you have a more equitable distribution of wealth, with real reasonable possibilities to move up that more gradual linear slope, you have fewer people who are in desperate straights and feel like they need a vulnerable minority scapegoat to blame their woes on.

            And sorry, this isn’t YOUR America. It’s the people’s America, and everything you see around you, and the many amenities and benefits you enjoy, would not exist without them.

    • Glen

      Yes, we’ve gotten a good idea about what the Oathbreakers are, particularly after this planned stunt (that they were either told they were unwelcome, or they were told they would be arrested and charged with felony crimes) to violate U.S. law and commit treason.

      Do you think we are heard? Represented? Yes. Which is why 5% of the population has seen their Constitutionally due rights being advanced and upheld.

      And far right wing Christian theocrats who despise the U.S. Constitution, have lost their quest to impose their religious beliefs and doctrine onto others, despite Christians comprising nearly 80% of the population.

      80% that’s a lot of Christians (not to mention the Jews and Muslims whose religion is no fan of gay people). MORE than enough to go through legal and Constitutionally provided channels for amending the U.S. Constitution to overrule the U.S. Supreme Court and explicitly state that they want to discriminate against gay couples in marriage law.

      But that won’t work for you will it. Because a majority of Americans are perfectly fine with same-gender marriage equality. And even when that support was well below 50% and the Republicans controlled the house and the Senate, and W. was in the White House, you couldn’t even scrape together a bare majority in the Senate (let alone 2/3) to pass a Constitutional Amendment denying same-gender marriage equality.

      Nobody is afraid of Kim Davis, or the pathetic Oathbreakers. We’re keeping an eye on them for when they violate our duly enacted and adjudicated laws we can arrest them and put them behind bars.

  • Kel Ross

    You only have the right to the Free Exercise of your Religion.

    You do not have the right to the Oppressive Exercise of your Religion.

    You definitely do not have the right to force anyone else to Exercise your Religion.

    What if the county clerk was a Muslim who refused to issue liquor licenses or a Jew who refused to issue a food handler’s permit to local business because alcohol or pork violates their “sincerely held” beliefs?

    What if the county clerk was an atheist and refused to issue a building permit for a new church?

    What she did was not Freedom.

    And she’s not a hero.

    And the OathKeepers are not keeping their Oath if they protect her.

  • so they’re the american taliban enforcing religious law…. dumb bible thumping gun toting white trash is all they are. Ignorant.

  • So what gives them this right to intercede?

  • Ted Martin

    She cannot be simply fired, because she was elected, not hired.

  • terribletwos

    Oooooo a “drug store” cowboy. See the tats and the fats? Can’t get into today’s military with that(s).

  • ScottInClearwater

    These people are nothing but domestic terrorists. They should have been arrested at the Bundy Ranch. Now, dealing with these nuts is going to take a lot more effort and more than likely some people will die because of them in the future.

  • revolutionismyname

    I love how some of you PC nazis are getting owned by a feminist in the comments section right now. Get informed you retards. Divide and conquer ring a bell? She was illegally detained. She broke no law because congress made no law. Only ruled on an existing one which has not changed in the state of KY on paper yet. You can’t argue in terms of religion with an atheist. Just as you can’t argue in terms of homosexuality with a sincere bible-believing Christian. What you have to do is accept diversity. Even in terms of religion. And instead of putting her in jail, vote her out of office. Her beliefs are as important as yours. Whether right or wrong, agree or disagree. What you should really be making a public debate about, is why anyone should ever need the government to get married to begin with.

    • terribletwos

      FYI: SCOTUS ruled on constitutional law, which is their job according to the 3rd amendment. BTW: Constitutional laws over rules state laws. But I’ll bet you are in full agreement when they ruled on the 2nd amendment. I am literally laughing at the first part of your post “owned by a feminist”.

    • Dan McLeod

      She violated a court order and was found in contempt. There are laws about that.

    • Glen

      As Dan McLeod informed you, of course she broke the law. It is illegal to disobey the order of the court. Particularly even after appealing that order, and even appealing it all the way up to the highest court of our land, the U.S. Supreme Court, which upheld the lower court rulings when it refused to hear her appeal.

      Still that was not good enough for her and she continued to stand in defiance of the law and the court’s orders. Her being found guilty of Contempt of Court and sentenced to jail was perfectly legal.

      There doesn’t need to be any law written to accommodate the marriages of same-gendered partners. Existing marriage law is perfectly sufficient. The court didn’t make any law. They struck down an unconstitutional provision of existing marriage laws. The gender restrictions. Those gender restrictions are now NULL and VOID. They can stay on the written paper of those laws for the rest of eternity, but they are unenforceable, and any couple can get married under those laws regardless of their genders.

      And you’re ridiculous to suggest that people’s rights can be delayed until an anti-gay electorate decides to vote the County Clerk out of office.

  • Martin Baker

    You people are the reason that the radical islamic groups feel that they can take over control of our country,All that they need is a few thousand more,and you people will cower in your corners.You should not be afraid of patriots defending the constitution and this country but you are more scared of them than your tyrannical leadership! I pity people with no spine like You!!!!!

    • Dan McLeod

      These people are defending nothing except their freedom to be batshit stupid because jebus.

  • Transcender

    So, the “treason keepers” are openly threatening federal marshals, police, and a federal judge, with death? I hope they show up – just so they can be arrested for terroristic threatening.

  • “No personal considerations should stand in the way of performing a public duty.”
    ~ Ulysses S. Grant

  • Bruce Fontaine

    So Kim the homophobe religious nut Davis has her own army of morons. How very christian of her. A hate group willing to kill and disrupt….sounds like a hillbilly group she would love.

  • oijwef

    It’s a shame they weren’t on the top floor of the towers on 9/11.

  • Quote Investments LTD.

    lmfao… just another KKK…imagine the terror if the Black Panthers ever arrived with the type of artillery

  • Mama62

    Time to call the National Guard I guess. These guys a breakign the law. They need to be stopped and soon before they kill someone. THEY don’t get to decide who goes to jail and who does not. I know we have a rule in this country about using the military for civil actions but these guys have put themselves on the wrong side of the law for too long. And here we worry about ISIS, here you go folks our very own.

  • The Crying T e a t a r d

    Gettysburg Time. #yeehaw

  • kittyconrad

    Bubbanem playing with their Christmas toys.

  • Cassie Devereaux

    The crazy train just keeps rollin’ along.

  • Dan McLeod

    Yeah… Oath Keepers are a bunch of crazy wackjobs that probably should have their gun licenses and all their guns and ammo confiscated for the safety of other members of the public.

    • ænəræk

      They seem to be looking for their “Blaze of Glory” moment

      • Dan McLeod

        They’ve watched too many action movies, it seems.

  • Lou C

    It should be noted that the Jackson County official website lists Tim Fee as the county sheriff. Denny Peyman’s name is not listed.

  • James Grimes

    Is it any surprise that the Liberals will have something nasty to say about these patriots?

    • Ocho

      These aren’t patriots. Patriots are people who respect the Constitution. These are religious fanatics and terrorists.

      • James Grimes

        I’m not interested.

  • comparing oath keepers to ISIS… you guys are freakin ridiculous… lmao
    and I bet you’re voting for Hilary as well… good ol’ American sheeple — dumbed down my news media & tv, only confident with their internet gossip, and completely ignorant to the Reality we actually live in. F*****n Parrots

  • James

    Fucking religious extremist terrorists. They might as well spit on the graves of 9/11 victims, if every action they take is going to be in support of violent, religious extremism.

  • JANET MITCHELL

    She refused their help. But now i hear the LGBT NAZIS are sending her death threats, real tolerance from those demanding tolerance. What hypocrites.

  • Michael

    Right wing terrorist group has distended on Kentucky and are prepared to launch attacks on law enforcement officials. If the police let them get away with this. WOW

  • Nick Alexander

    Typical of Christian groups, don’t like some body’s views you resort to violence.. she was held in contempt of court the judge was in the right… If it was my small group those “Christians” would be screaming for our executions, harsher penalties, and calling us traitors. They are armed militants then they are terrorists same as Isis

  • LarryinBG

    We Kentuckians are just SO GLAD there will be more idiots running around with military-type weapons. Not that we don’t have enough armed idiots here already.

  • hinchlnt

    Out of curiosity, I stopped by here back in July 2015, more than a year after the armed standoff. I was heading to a vacation elsewhere in northern Utah. Cliven Bundy’s property is right past the end of this bridge to the left. I remember that he flew a lot of American flags which is a bit odd, considering how much he hated the Federal Government. I will again remind Kim Davis that in a Roman Catholic country, she could have been blocked from entering into marriage, a second, third and fourth time. And if some rude, nasty clerk went to prison over it, it would certainly appear ominous if some Latin American death squad declared they would protect this rude, nasty clerk who only wanted to refuse to issue marital licenses to divorced people.

  • Anchovy Garbanzo

    I always find this appropriate in cases of radical Christianity vs radical Islam.

  • elizapar

    Blow up the overpass.

  • faceshaker

    Whoa! Crackers with guns! Whatever shall we do?

    It IS interesting to some people in this world that the early Christians were not persecuted because of their beliefs–the Roman ruling class didn’t really care much about religion at all–but because they were staunchly anti-war. That’s right. The Romans had a conscription, a draft, and the early Christians, sworn to non-violence, refused to obey Roman conscription demands. But all in all, the Romans really didn’t bother the early Christians much anyway. The idea that the early Christians were persecuted and hunted down by evil pagans is nothing but Catholic agitprop. Nero and Caligula together spent around 12 years total bugging the Christians, and even when Antiochus rode into Jerusalem and forced the Jews to place Caesar’s bust in their temple, he was basically baiting them. There is even doubt as to whether Rome actually crucified Peter. But at least it sounds good: heroic, persecuted little peace-lovers, kind of scrappy at times, oftentimes very poor, living on the streets of one of the most advanced countries on the planet.

    Wait! Isn’t that a lot like those “dirty hippies”?

    I found the Oath Keepers making their “wargasm” presence in Ferguson to be an annoyance and even dangerous. There we had people up to their eyebrows with police brutality, stop-and-frisk, “broken windows” and all their male children in prison, and along come some self-righteous gunslingers who just happened to be big bwanna white men to “enforce”…what?

    Their egos. Stupid Oath Keepers.

  • Zachary Carl

    Amen, Thank God That we have a militia that will stand up for what is right, but sooner or later they too will have to pick a side, cause the Devil is very Crafty and will look to thrown a curveball or two their way.

  • SUPER 68 IS DOWN

    As an Oath Keeper, this action has torn apart the organization and I am dumb founded as to why we are putting ourselves in the middle of this. It is my belief and why I am an Oath Keeper to protect and uphold the Constitution. Although as a Christian I back this woman’s actions, as an Oath Keeper, it is my belief this woman should resign and find another position because religious views are to be separate from the government.
    Yet when I spoke as much I was told by Stuart Rhodes himself that if I don’t like it don’t let the door hit me and others on the way out.
    He states that she was arrested and incarcerated without due process. I am of the opinion she violated a court order and was found in contempt and thus incarcerated.
    I feel like we are acting like a Christian Militia rather than any Constitutional group.
    At this point, I am trying to find a reason why I should stay. Every thing I find on contempt of court issues tells me the judge acted according to law.
    Although I share this woman’s beliefs, they have no place in government

  • Los Angeles lady

    Good Lord, I’m so glad I don’t live in Kentucky. The nut jobs are coming out in full force. If those fake “macho” guys attempt to take the law into their own hands, they’ll end up in jail too. And these are the weirdos who think Trump is a great guy.

  • Mario Quijano
  • Iccy

    I can see it now God thinking the USA is another Sodom n Gomorrah..God destroyed it cause of the unrighteousness and perversions in its walls..mostly because of the homosexuality,,believe what you want but all of us will meet judgement ..and guess who is the judge??

  • bruce Hester

    Good for them, we need people with balls to take on the uS government.
    And guns too!

  • tetrahydra

    I’m American..and I’m single..shuld you have more rights than me because you have a love life???

  • Calis Sims

    Can’t wait to see these clowns in jail too!

  • Kanefire

    So his oath to uphold the constitution is conditional on his religious beliefs??? Oath Keepers FAIL

  • Tamara Murphy

    Guns God and lawlessness…sounds like a terrorist group to me , sounds like treason too.

  • JCF

    {Sung to Fiddler on the Roof’s “Tradition”}

    “Sedition . . . Sedition! Sedition!”

  • Teefa

    Aint this a b!tch, okay let’s see who America sides with now when these guys start attacking cops. “Oath Keepers”, “Isis”…all terrorist organizations.

  • Micheal Swan

    My only question is why and how do these so called “christian” armed militia be allowed to exist. They are terrorists. They hold no legal position as they in fact violate the laws that preclude them from being. I suppose it’s like illegal plural marriage and illegal aliens : we have as a society become so complacent that we now even laud the former with their own reality shows flaunting themselves and completely forgetting the definition of illegal.
    A perfect example of how lax we have gotten is the picture of one of their snipers positioned above the Federal Marshall’s. Who were they going to shoot? The Marshall’s or people from the ranch? God Bless America because we are going to need it. And as for Kim Davis, I’m sure there is going to be a special place in Hell for her.

  • Micheal Swan

    I’m so glad that dhj has been removed . It was like having a conversation with the kid in the corner with the dunce cap on. Very sad. Definitely needs anger management and mental health counseling. Wow !

  • MaxMan

    The hypocrisy of the right wing couldn’t be more blatant – supporting these terrorists while pushing the “Comply with law enforcement no matter what” rhetoric?

  • Christopher Peruzzi

    Here’s what I don’t understand. We have an intolerant homophobic hypocritical woman who had been divorced three times and is citing one of the more obscure chapters of the Bible in her position to not grant same sex marriage licenses due to “man lying with another man”. This is in the same chapter listing that shellfish is bad and that working on the Sabbath is a punishable sin.

    Yet, we have an active “Christian Militia” who are threatening the lives of people whose job it is to enforce the REAL GOVERNMENT LAW with possible attacks involving open gunfire and killing people. Wouldn’t they be incredibly guilty of breaking the “THOU SHALT NOT KILL” COMMANDMENT as well as legitimate government law?

    They are not soldiers in the Crusades (1095 – 1291) and were not sanctioned by the Pope (and nor would they be likely to be with our current Pope). They are not government sanctioned soldiers in war time.

    Doesn’t that just make the Christian Militia religious terrorists committing treason? And wouldn’t that be punishable by death?

    Really… I’m looking for an answer. I want to see where my logic is wrong.