Joe Biden: Will He Or Won’t He?

The buzz is definitely getting louder as Biden asks his advisers. Via the New York Times:

Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. is vacationing on Kiawah Island off South Carolina’s coast, riding bikes and walking the beaches with his family. But on Wednesday night, he called one of his most outspoken political supporters and wrestled with the question looming over his future: Should he run for president? In the hourlong conversation with Richard A. Harpootlian, the former chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party, the vice president did not reveal which way he was leaning, according to a Democrat familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private call. Mr. Biden described the recent death of his son Beau as an “open wound” that had not begun to heal, and was grappling with whether he could devote his full energy to a campaign. But at the same time, Mr. Biden and those who support him are moving to put the pieces into place for a possible candidacy. The vice president directed Mr. Harpootlian to get in touch with one of his closest political advisers, Mike Donilon, and has been calling other supporters. And he has permitted his advisers to discreetly contact operatives in early nominating states to determine how fast they could organize a campaign.

The Times notes that Biden has “not a cent of campaign money.”

  • Gustav2

    Of course VP Biden is considering it, he has been considering POTUS since he ran for Student Council president in Jr High. So staffers make the boss happy by floating a few ‘trial balloon’ rumors to see if anyone cares…so far not many.

    Then It’s August, so the political reporters don’t have much gossip, innuendo and BS to peddle with Congress not in session and everyone else out of town.

    • SockMikey

      One longtime Biden supporter said the vice president had been deeply moved by his son’s desire for him to run.

      “He was so close to Beau and it was so heartbreaking that, frankly, I thought initially he wouldn’t have the heart,” the supporter, Michael Thornton, a Boston lawyer, said in an interview. “But I’ve had indications that maybe he does want to — and ‘that’s what Beau would have wanted me to do.’ ”

      Vice President Joe Biden is spending part of his South Carolina vacation calling close friends to discuss a potential 2016 run, a longtime Democratic operative and a source close to Biden who had an extensive phone call with him this week confirmed to NBC News.

      Biden is not calling people asking “if” he should run, but saying, “I am thinking about it but I’m also thinking about Beau,” according to a source close to Biden. His son Beau Biden passed away in May after a lengthy battle with brain cancer.

      But added: “I can’t emphasize this enough: He is distraught over Beau’s passing and working through the grief.”

      The Biden confidant said before the vice president can run, he would have to get through that hurdle and he’s just not through it yet. The source says Biden is asking those closest to him what a campaign would look like if he gets through this hurdle.

      • Gustav2

        Yes, part of this is VP Biden “working through the grief” and no one daring to say it’s not going to happen.

    • Circle Thomas

      At one point, before Beau died, he definitely was NOT considering it, considering he let his chief scheduler go to work for Hillary. That’s not a move you make if you’re planning to run for office again.

  • The Vice President will make an announcement soon; right now he’s just….Biden his time.

  • Charles Manuel P.

    Good! I hope he gets into the process. It’s gonna be his last chance at the Oval Office, that’s for sure

  • Jmdintpa

    I hate to be a Debbie Downer but it seems it may be Jeb and Hillary. I think she is a very week candidate. If the Dems do not turn out the vote we will have a republican president. I like smoking Joe Biden but he is just not electable. I really like Bernie Sanders but voters are to stupid and will buy into ‘he is a socialist , communist, fascist ” etc etc that can be hurled his way. Obama isnt on the tkt so the black vote will be low. If the gays sit home like in the mid-terms we lose. Young people cant be bothered so the Liberal voters will be hard pressed to overcome the “take back america” fever the republicans have.

    • canoebum

      You may hate it, but you are Debbie Downer.

      • Todd20036

        I have some puppy uppers he may like.

        • David Walker

          Puppy uppers? How can you even think of such a thing?

    • band

      “If the Dems do not turn out the vote we will have a republican president.”

      Which makes this no different from any other presidential election.

  • canoebum

    I’ll take “my son asked me to run” over the dozen or so idiots with “God” asked me to run, any day. I hope he does run. I prefer him over Hillary. I think he could beat any one the GOP puts up, and he would make a great President.

  • People4Humanity

    Joe strikes me as presidential material, as do Hillary and Bernie.
    Not so, any from the reTrumplican clownado.

    • Steven Leahy

      I actually like Biden a lot more than Hillary. I hope he jumps in. I do like Bernie too – will be interesting

  • band

    He’s too late. If Biden were serious about a run, he would have been quietly organizing and lining up financial backers a year ago. It would have to be a much more open and competitive field for him to parachute in this late and expect to get traction.

    • BobSF_94117

      He’s too late.

      The election is 15 months away. If that’s too late, the GOP has succeeded once again in destroying this democracy.

      • band

        Yeah, it is too late. And that’s a result of our political system and the media, as well as the state of the Democratic primary right now.

        Not sure why you’d be singling the GOP out for blame.

        • BobSF_94117

          Google “GOP moves up primary date” and you’ll find a history of them pushing primaries earlier and earlier, election cycle after election cycle. It serves their interests, like gerry-mandering, voter suppression, etc., etc.

          They were not entirely alone; the Democratic Party sometimes joined in. We’re always up for being suckered in against our own interests…

  • Sam_Handwich

    i assumed he might be Hillary’s sec of state

  • gaylib

    This is all just a bunch of rumor mongering from a press corp that hates Hillary Clinton. No, Joe Biden is not going to run. Just like Al Gore is not going to run (looks like his people shot down that bullshit “report” (rumor) fast enough). Aside from the fact that Biden probably knows that he doesn’t have a shot at the nomination, much less the presidency, there is one big reason Biden will never be the Democratic nominee: Anita Hill. In a race where we have the chance to have the first woman as president, Biden would be pilloried regarding his dismissal of HIll and coddling of Clarence Thomas during his nomination process. Many people won’t take kindly to a man who treated a woman, in fact a black woman, with such disrespect. In an election where the issue of the SCOTUS is going to be front and center, Joe’s regrettable history will disqualify him. I like Biden, but he’s just not presidential material. And as they say, he’s got too much “baggage”.

  • Randy Ellicott

    I think its a good idea to get as many well qualified people in the race, and though people have issue with pretty much every democratic runner so far, they are all at least qualified. Despite Hillary’s baggage and multiple issues she is without a doubt an accomplished politician, besides concerns over Bernie’s electable he is someone who has been running and succeeding as one of the most progressive elected officials for years…. More good people can shape a better campaign and a better solution for leading the country…. Compared to the GOP side… well you might have one or two qualified people if you mash them all together… maybe…

    • Octavio

      Bernie would make a great president, especially if his health holds out. But I doubt he could get anything accomplished. The same asswipe Republican’ts that have frustrated Obama would eat Bernie alive. As an avowed “socialist” he’s really at a disadvantage. We would never hear the end of how he’s trying to turn the country to a “gawdless communist state.” It’s my hope that The Hillary is tough and cunning enough to thwart the right wing from doing more harm.

  • ryan charisma

    I wont.

  • ExGayTherapyKills

    He is a tool, The rich and the powerful people who run this country and the world have a plan, use governments and religion to make the poor people conform and obey to what the rich and powerful people want. They want to control you so you make the rich and powerful people more money. The rich and powerful people, force you to be their slaves and if you do not obey and conform they put you in prison or destroy you.

  • Reed

    I’m voting for Hillary Clinton because I don’t want a republican in the White House, simple as that.

    • tomfromthenews

      For me, it’s as simple as who gets to nominate the next couple of Supreme Court justices. Hillary, or whoever is the Dem. Period.

      • houstonray

        Amen! We’ve seen how obstructionist the congress can (and will) be with President Obama, so there is no doubt that won’t change with the next President, so legislatively, I don’t expect much with a Dem president, but that Supreme Court has GOT TO BE our number one priority. Let’s face it, several will be over or at 80 within the next few years. We cannot afford to lose that opportunity.

  • Octavio

    I think Biden has been and still is just a fabulous and dreamy VP. I like him a whole bunch. But I feel he has better things to do than be POTUS.

    • Brian in Valdosta

      That sums up my view as well, Octavio. Biden has opened his mouth to insert his slightly bumbling VP foot too many times for me to see him as the decisive, hard-hitting candidate that we need as POTUS.

      I recognize, though, that Hillary is facing an uphill battle because (a) so many people hate her for merely being Hillary, and (b) she strikes too many people as being untrustworthy and hypocritical.

      Also, Biden seems to be mulling this decision over too much. Either you want it or you don’t.

      • Octavio

        Yup. Either you want to run or you don’t. His son wanted him to run. Big deal. I do like him. But not as a president.

  • 2karmanot

    Who cares? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • houstonray

    I love that he and his son had such a great close relationship, and it moves my heart that he asked him to, but he has to WANT to run, not because he was ASKED to run. I just don’t think Biden has that in him and that’s what he needs to win both the nomination and the election. If he’s just going through the motions because he promised his dying son, that’s not why he should do it. It’s sad, and it’s touching, but that’s not why he should be running.