Brian Brown Has The Fox Debate Sadz

“The nation watched the first debate of the presidential cycle this week, as Fox News hosted the affair from Cleveland on Thursday evening. As many NOM supporters have observed, the mainstream media rarely treats the marriage issue with the importance it deserves, and even Fox News has been reluctant to give it fair and balanced coverage. Regrettably, this was evident in their handling of the marriage issue during the presidential debate. Only two candidates were asked about marriage, and it was phrased in an adversarial way, pitting support for traditional marriage as being at odds with support for a gay family member. How ridiculous! Sadly, when it came to the marriage issue, Fox News bumbled badly. We hope that future debates will give the candidates a fuller opportunity to expound on their views about protecting marriage and the actions they will take as president to reverse the illegitimate ruling of the Supreme Court. NOM is committed to helping the American people separate out the marriage champions from the pretenders by issuing our Presidential Marriage Pledge. A number of candidates have signed onto our pledge, and we will be announcing those names soon.” – Hate group leader Brian Brown, writing for NOM’s blog.

  • Mark

    BB, you wouldn’t know fair and balanced if it smacked in the balls!

  • Gerry Fisher

    Ya know, he used to bother me when he stuck his nose into domestic politics. Now, all I feel is the deeply satisfying balm of his irrelevance.

    • Happy Dance

      I feel sorry for him. More so for his children. And Stainscrotum’s children too..

      • lattebud

        And rest of us who will shoulder the creditors loss when NOM declares bankruptcy with absolutely no assets.

        • Happy Dance

          I see that happening pretty soon!

        • RoFaWh

          Who knows? Perhaps when the books are examined they’ll discover that Brown has been lining his pockets and require him to disgorge the money he’s stolen from NOM. Unjust enrichment, etc.

    • JoeNCA

      So much impotent rage.

  • clay

    and Kasich was the only one who decided to keep his answer on marriage, at all, but Brian doesn’t bother to mention that. It would be consistent of him to complain about Santorum and Huckabee preferring to switch topics to abortion with their answers.

  • Gustav2

    Fox News’ job is to get the general public to elect Republicans. You must have lost the argument if FN is not on you side when they frame a debate.

  • bkmn

    Maybe Brian and friends should just quit watching Fux, using their Apple and Microsoft products and retreat back to the 1950’s world they dream of and leave everyone else alone.

    • Chucktech

      What?? And have to get up off the sofa to change the channel on the tee vee?? Or the volume control???

  • PLAINTOM

    Brian who ?

  • TommyTune

    Only in Brian Brown’s feeble brain did Fox News “bumble” the marriage questions. Fox is only interested in one thing: profits. It’s obvious that being against marriage equality is no longer profitable, so Fox has moved on. Apparently Brian never got that memo from Roger Ailes. I guess it got lost in the mail.

    • Chucktech

      Oh, I’ll bet he got that piece of mail. It’s sitting on his desk, unopened. He stares at it, every day, afraid to open it. He knows what’s in it.

    • Soren456

      I think NOM has been relegated to the Kids’ Table.

  • Baltimatt

    Брайан–

    Your whole pitch has been adversarial, setting up a false dichotomy between same-sex marriage and “traditional marriage”, as though the two were mutually exclusive.

    • Gustav2

      What? You mean the two can coexist in the Public Square?

      • Marc

        dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, etc.

        • Gustav2

          That’s un-American or something!!!!11!!

  • JT
  • Jmdintpa

    so how much in debt is NOM?

  • LADY MABELINE

    Say goodnight Brian. So long.. Farewell.

    • Gustav2

      auf wiedersehen adieu

    • lymis

      I picture more Veruca Salt, and less von Trapp.

      Though the Nazi youth connection does sort of fit.

  • crewman

    Even the slightest bit civility is seen as a defeat by them. Kasich’s answer was hardly pro-gay. ‘I’m against same-sex marriage, but I attended the same-sex marriage of one of my gay friends.’ It was an awkward attempt we’re seeing by Republicans to deal with an issue they are either ok with or don’t care much about while trying to not piss off the many intolerant members of their party. Personally it would be very hard for me to invite someone to my wedding who was openly against me having the right to marry.

    • Joe in PA

      exactly. I loved Matt Baume’s reaction to the Kasich response.

    • Dramphooey

      Could you imagine having a graduation party for a child and inviting someone who publicly said beforehand “I can’t believe they’re giving a diploma to that moron?”

      • LonelyLiberal

        Is it OK if I muttered that behind my hand, though? Because once or twice, I have.

        • Reality.Bites

          Sure. We’re just all a bit surprised you were invited to George W. Bush’s graduation.

    • Chucktech

      I admit, though, I was surprised by the slightly more than tepid applause he received.

    • LonelyLiberal

      Hell, in my case they’re not being invited to the reception, much less the wedding.

    • Gest2016

      Because this has never been about marriage at all for NOM. You can trace the roots of NOMS mission literally back to the Crusades; the Catholic Church is never so focused and energized as when it is trying to exterminate an “out” group, and gays have been a convenient scape goat — Until Obergefel.

      • Bj Lincoln

        I bet it’s the church backing them and that’s why they don’t want to hand over the donor list in Maine.

    • Gianni

      Kasich didn’t answer the question. He was asked how he would explain his opposition to equal marriage to his daughter if she was gay. Then he went on with how he’s old fashioned and yet attended a gay friend’s wedding. His answer should have been, “Well, you see darling daughter, your mom and I love you regardless of your being gay. However, we don’t believe that you and your kind should ever be considered our equals in the eyes of the law. I’m an old fashioned guy who just won’t bother to even try to see how bigoted my objection to your equality in civil marriage is.
      Love, Daddy

  • Joe in PA

    Sorry Brian, the “Marriage Issue” doesn’t get ratings anymore. That is what this is about, k?

  • Marc

    It truly is a travesty. Without that debate, I would never know how candidates like Santorum, Carson, Jindal, Walker, Rubio, Bush, Cruz, Trump and Huckabee stand on marriage equality. Alas, now I will probably never know.

  • olandp

    “A number of candidates have signed onto our pledge, and we will be announcing those names soon.”

    Sounds like things aren’t going so well in the NOM land.

    • clay

      One, one is a number, right?

      • anne marie in philly

        figure on frothy mix and huckster, prob cruz and rubio too.

        • Gustav2

          Ahhhh, the front runners!

        • clay

          Yeah, though I initially thought those “names” were going to be Rick and Santorum.

          • Mark

            Hell, Perry will sign anything….

          • Robincho

            Once you make sure he’s not holding the pen upside-down…

          • Chucktech

            “Who the fuck signed this pledge with a goddam “X”?? Oh, that’s Rick Perry’s? Oh, OK.”

          • lattebud

            Hopefully a confession… However, seeing him have to sit through a trial with all those big lawyery words would be entertaining.

          • JamesStone

            Can he even read and write?

        • JoeNCA

          From the kid’s table.

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        One is the loneliest number.

        Except when it comes to self pleasure– than it’s the best number *ever*!

        • clay

          Two can be as lonely as one; it’s the loneliest number since the number one.

      • People4Humanity

        So is zero.

      • Polterguest

        It’s the loneliest number…

      • Todd20036

        One is the loneliest number you could ever know

      • ScottJL

        So is Zero.

      • Justin

        Zero is also a number.

    • lymis

      Well, we know how NOM feels about announcing names.

      Even with a court order.

      • Robincho

        “Remember (the) Maine!”

  • anne marie in philly

    bri-bri, you are so stupid that even fux noise doesn’t consult you on important matters. GO AWAY!

  • Taylor

    “A number of candidates have signed onto our pledge, and we will be announcing those names soon.”

    I’m more interested in who didn’t sign! I’m guessing that those who did, won’t win a single primary.

  • Mark

    Hmmph. The only noise about ‘marriage’ is coming from a full time grifter. Maybe he should seek more stable employment….something not in the sex trades….

  • BudClark

    Marriage equality as a political issue is OVER, Brian. The Rethugbuttuglican’t don’t even want to touch it with YOUR diminutive dick.

    • MarkOH

      Exactly. And, PUH-LEASE, the NOM “blog”? It’s merely a site for Brian to post his anger and thoughts. No responses allowed. So much for Brian’s idea of “fair and balanced”

  • Reality.Bites

    Brown and Trump both don’t understand that if you don’t have Fox in your corner, you have no one in your corner.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Yes, people who will never become president have signed your pledge.

    • Gustav2

      The religious right has just started to realize they are a minority in the US. Because they consistently vote in larger percentages, they have had an out-sized influence on government, it fed their egos.

      • RoFaWh

        I’ve long been of the opinion that if voter turnout in the US was consistently 80% or higher, the crazy hateful right would sink into insignificance.

  • Ninja0980

    Washed up has been says what?

  • dcurlee

    It’s funny how they all keep turning on each other. If Fox News ain’t their friend no one is ….. By the way brian believe it or not we have bigger issues than you whinning about who I am married to. To bad you aren’t getting your way

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Wow, he just keeps falling more and more into irrelevance daily. I still recall that charming debate with Dan Savage (favorite line of which was apparently his husband telling Brian to “get the fuck out of our house.”) Now, there is simply no reason for Brian to be invited to anyone’s house for dinner. He’s gone from “get the fuck out of our house” to “who the fuck are you?”

  • joe ho

    The anti-gay lying machine is at it again with this outlier poll by Fox contributer Pat Caddell who poses as a democrat in order to smear democrats.

    NOM touts it on its blog as do all the other anti-gay orgs.

    It claims to show that a huge majority of Americans think religious rights trump gay rights. But the questions were carefully framed to get anti-gay responses.

    Right Wing Watch shows why mainstream media outlets aren’t picking it up.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/right-wing-touts-new-poll-pitting-religious-liberty-against-lgbt-equality

    These people are disgusting.

    • octobercountry

      Thanks for the link—good to know the propaganda doesn’t seem to be working in this case.

    • CB

      As someone who has structured research for major corporations, I can tell you that it’s way too easy to create dishonest “research” designed to yield an answer you want. It’s why polls without transparency should largely be discarded. But it’s easy fodder for the lazy news media that has so much time to fill.

      An “online poll of 800 people?” Just that phrase alone makes it completely suspect and most likely invalid.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • Macbill

    Imagine how easy it would be to reverse marriage equality! “OK, all you gay-married are now single. You have to re-do your taxes, un-adopt those children, and give all Estate monies to the hateful relatives.”
    Easy-peasy!

    • Hue-Man

      “And your non-citizen “husband” and children must be immediately deported because you fraudulently sponsored them for immigration to the U.S.”

  • Michael Rush

    Brian Brown is going to be so surprised when he hears the Supreme Court’s decision on gay marriage !!!

  • JaniceInToronto

    Shouldn’t “Losers” be added to the Labels: section?

  • HomerTh

    NOM used to have a PR firm that was listed on Brown’s blog posts as the contact for interviews. Hasn’t listed them for months- more evidence that they are running out of money.

    • Gest2016

      Good catch. I used to call the PR # and leave my “thoughts” on their answering machine. Wonder if I can call Brian directly now?

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        Better call quick, before his phone’s disconnected.

  • StSean

    he knows no other songs, does he?

    • RoFaWh

      Analogy: the stars of silent movies who, when the talkies came in, discovered their voices were no damned good and had to find another line of work. (It’s a pretty loose analogy, admittedly.)

      Anyone care to place a bet on what line of work Brown goes into when NOM declares bankruptcy? Hamburger flipping? Male prostitute or gigolo? Tour bus driver? Dumpster diver?

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      He’s a one-trick pony, a one-flop wonder.

  • “Champions of marriage” – is that the new term for “serial adulterers”?

  • JustSayin’

    Even faux news seems to be tiring of all these rants about the SCOTUS decision being illegal…. Brian, how does it feel to be marginalized by your own activities and words?

    • Gustav2

      Especially when conservatives look at ALL the decisions that have favored them.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Oh I love to listen to the sound of my voice..nom….nom…..nom….nom….nom… I oppose….nom…nom…nom.. I depose…nom…nom….nom..give
    money…… more money……because I speak..nom….nom…nom…

  • D. J.

    When will Brian figure out that Maggie’s sloppy seconds have played out? RFRAs are the shining new thing the grifters are going to siphon money for.
    The way he commingled 501(c)(3) & 501(c)(4) money together and spent it, he’s lucky he only got busted in Maine.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Mimi

    I wish she and Molly Ivans were here commenting on this debate.

    • txscotty39

      My favorite lady!

    • Justin

      Loved this woman. I was living in Houston when she was duking it out with Clayton Williams in the gubernatorial race. She was a joy to behold.

  • Pete

    Cryin’ Brian’s real sadz stem from the fact that his $500,000 salary ($250K from NOM and $250K from its related religious freedom foundation) is on a respirator. By the way, doesn’t he usually organize a bus tour every summer to support marriage? Maybe he has to take Greyhound this year.

  • adamj2013

    Yes, I know we’ve hit an iceberg. But if someone can just get me a Dixie cup, I’m sure I can bail out all of this water and get Titanic up and running again.

  • octobercountry

    Wow, the Supreme Court’s marriage equality decision has played out pretty much exactly as we all expected. That is to say—there has been no substantial negative fallout at all, no major push-back. The topic of gay marriage is pretty much off the table in the upcoming election; the ship has sailed and serious Republican presidential contenders aren’t going to focus on it or make much of an issue of it at all. (Now, anti-gay “religious freedom” legislation—well, that’s another topic entirely. But marriage equality itself? Not a problem.)

    Yep, just like we thought…. but Brian is still unwilling to admit it, and is working as hard as he can to deny reality.

  • Happy Dance

    Boofuckinghoo bitch! Get over it and move on! Your career is over!

  • DaveMiller135

    Dude, get the t-shirt. It’s over.

    • LonelyLiberal

      “I opposed marriage equality and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. And sued in Maine. And reviled.”

  • John Calendo

    The Fox News moderators were very sharp at defusing the code language of “support for traditional marriage” in the question to Kasich. In fact, everyone supports traditional marriage, but the code is used to mean “ban gay marriage.” So while Kasich “believes” in traditional marriage (its reality is not a question…you don’t need to “believe” it. It’s a fact), he also made it clear that he rejects what it’s usually code for. The gay marriage of a friend, the gayness of a hypothetical daughter, are wonderful things not to be shunned, as per Kasich and met with enthusiastic applause, the surprise moment of the night.

    I’m sure this burns Brian Brown’s by now very chapped ass. All of these GOP candidates support “traditional marriage” but not its exclusivity. With the exception of the obvious religious fanatics…Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum, Jindal.

  • j.martindale
  • ColdCountry

    It’s over, Brian. Move on.

  • LovesIrony

    support for traditional marriage as being at odds with support for a gay family member. You aren’t supportive of a gay family member if you don’t support their marriage

  • All I can think of when reading anything this fool spouts off it, “YOU DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!”

  • cmh

    There will be no reversal Brian, it’s fucking over.

  • Cuberly

    Frothy and Cruz or Frothy and Huckster. Yeah Brownshirt, surprise us.

    http://i.imgur.com/mckKVqx.gif

  • If I knew Bri-bri’s address, I’d print this off and send it to him

  • TampaDink

    “A number of candidates….” isn’t that number two, as of now? I guess that writing 2 out of 17 (and counting) didn’t sound as significant…to this insignificant p.o.s..

  • Queequeg

    Hey, Brian, marriage equality is now the law of the land. It is done, over, your side lost, get it?

  • NedFlaherty

    Brian Brown is lying when he claims, “A number of candidates have signed onto our pledge. . .”

    In 2012, NOM rushed to the airwaves the very instant that each new presidential nominee signed the NOM anti-LGBT pledge.

    For 2016, NOM has signed up only 1 nominee: junior varsity player Rick Santorum, whose fund-raising so far is pathetic (Jeb Bush has raised $120 million; Santorum only $1 million).

    If NOM had gotten any other candidates at all, there would have been a blizzard of press releases.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Brian Brown: “So? One’s a number, isn’t it?”

    • Basically, NOM is desperate to stay relevant so they are going to want to make a big deal of people signing onto their marriage pledge especially as they only have one thus far. So I am beyond skeptical at their claim that they have more but who haven’t signed yet. The real question for NOM is do they even have enough money to take action against candidates who don’t sign this.

  • Gordon.

    What a maroon ! The Supreme Court declared that marriage is no longer an issue. Guess nobody told Brian…

  • Kissmagrits

    I wonder if there’s a serious problem with paying staffers at NOM HQ. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.

    Not very many are willing to touch this issue now that so many Fortune 500 retail manufacturers have issued equality pledges or commissioned “gay friendly” advertising.

    Grow up, guys, and find a new enterprise. You certainly must
    be able to find another minority to beat up on.

  • You know, it’s funny when Donald does it. This guy just makes me think “Is that considered a queef or a fart?” And suddenly I’m wanting to sing “Blame Canada” which makes no sense whatsoever. I need to stop watching so much South Park and then coming online. Still, this idiot definitely reminds me of a south park villain.

    • Now now, you’d get in trouble with the anchors of Gay USA for those jokes. They bitched out my alma mater (OSU) this week for bastardizing some songs into anti-LGBT and anti-Jew lyrics (that were part of a secret “songbook” that only got revealed because some of the band members squealed about it). The anchors tried to pass off the line that “there are some jokes that are just out-of-bounds.”

      The first thing I thought of was South Park. (2nd were those famous New Yorkers, George Carlin and Lenny Bruce). #Angry #WereActingLikeRightWingers

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Trump is Eric Cartman, all grown up. But just chronologically.
      Bri-Bri is Eric Cartman, too, but unlike Trump, his scam requires him to act like he gives a shit about something.

  • Princess Lardass

    “Sadly, when it came to the marriage issue, Fox News bumbled badly.”

    That’s not the only organization to bumble badly on marriage issue.

  • Homo Erectus

    “Doctor” Brian Brown reminds me of Hirō Onoda (Google him).

  • Jack

    Illegitimate ruling?

    What does that even mean? Illegitimate only if not within the Court’s subject matter jurisdiction.

  • Gianni

    The true meaning of the acronym ‘NOM” is finally being revealed. The letters stand for ‘Nuts On Marriage’. They want a President to commit him/herself to taking actions to reverse the SCOTUS decision. Dear Brian, An American President doesn’t have even a hint of that kind of power. All he could do, and you know this, is rant continuously about it like you and Maggie do. The American people would really appreciate that. A President constantly braying like a jackass (the way you do) about the awfulness of gay people have equal rights under the law.

  • “A number of candidates have signed onto our pledge” so
    where are their names? It seems silly for NOM to complain about the amount of detail that FOX is giving when they don’t even name those who signed their pledge. Is NOM going to run ads against those who don’t sign onto their marriage pledge?