ISRAEL: Judge Orders Psychiatric Evaluation For Jerusalem Pride Killer

A Jerusalem judge today ordered pride parade killer Yishai Schlissel to undergo a psychiatric evaluation to determine if he is fit to stand trial. During his arraignment last week, Schlissel declared that he doesn’t recognize the authority of the Israeli legal system. Via the Jerusalem Post:

Judge Einat Zinger decided as a result of the hearing to send Schlissel for psychiatric observation. The law states that the suspect must have representation, but the judge added that “in these circumstances, the public defender should be appointed. However, in this situation, I will make due with the public defender’s representative being present in the courtroom during the hearing.” Zinger said that “the defendant will be checked by a district psychiatrist who will determine if he was responsible for his actions at the time he carried out the attack and if he is fit to stand trial.”The judge added that Schlissel should be checked within 48 hours and the results should be available for the court within seven days..”

Yesterday Schlissel’s mother apologized to the family of murdered teen Shari Banki.

“We think it’s really a great tragedy, we regret it very much and pray for the recovery of the wounded,” Rivka Schlissel told family members of Shira Banki, 16, who died of her wounds three days after the attack, during a meeting in the studio of the Walla! news website, it reported. Schlissel’s family and members of his ultra-Orthodox community, remain under investigation by the Jerusalem District Police, who are working to discover whether others knew of his intention to attack marchers in the parade, according to Walla. Investigators also are checking calls made to and from his cell phone in the days leading up to the attack.

  • Ninja0980

    I don’t care if this monster goes to prison or a hospital, so long as he never sees the light of day again.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    That’s a pretty wishy washy statement on the part of the family, and comes off as unbelievable.

    Why wasn’t this guy given psychiatric evals from his first go round of attacking innocent people? Perhaps if he’d had some sort of treatment, a beautiful child would still be alive. I don’t know how the laws work in Israel, but I hope this guy never sees the light of day again. He’s given up his right to live among us.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      That’s a pretty wishy washy statement on the part of the family, and comes off as unbelievable.

      Dead girl was a hetero, so they probably are sorry.

      • Wynter Marie Starr

        True, but she was also an ally so not worth much in their eyes. They missed the point that he killed a baby. (At least in my view)

  • crewman

    The people around him knew his past. They had to hear him going on about the Pride Parade. He was pretty vocal about demanding it not be held. I just wonder if the people around him silently knew he would do this or if they actually discussed it first.

    • SockMikey

      There were people who knew of his danger to the gay community and specifically to the parade.

      ****

      Since being released from prison (3 weeks prior to parade), Jerusalem District Intelligence flagged Schlissel as someone who was liable to act against members of the gay community.

      Schlissel appears to have announced his intentions in leaflets distributed in his hometown of Modiin Illit shortly before the event, residents said.

      “For our many sins, the evil ones want to have a parade of abomination in the king’s city once again…,” wrote Schlissel, who was only recently released from prison after serving a ten-year sentence for a similar attack at the 2005 Jerusalem Gay Pride parade.

      “God is testing us to see if we’re faithful to him and if we care about the desecration of his great name or that everyone just care about themselves, about their own body, so it appears that it’s the duty of every Jew to expose himself to beatings and imprisonment and in my opinion to danger too, and join together to stop and abort this sacrilege.”

      • JT

        It was police negligence at the very least. Negligence also at the level of the prison for not evaluating him as to derangement or danger to the public.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Schlissel appears to have announced his intentions in leaflets distributed in his hometown of Modiin Illit shortly before the event, residents said.

        I know, right? LEAFLETS!! Blowing my stack again reading it again.

    • Stev84

      Of course they knew. And agreed with him.

      Which is why is mother can stick her fake apology somewhere else.

    • Bj Lincoln

      Premeditated attack with the intent to kill.

  • “Schlissel declared that he doesn’t recognize the authority of the Israeli legal system.”

    Just wait — next he’ll be running for president of the U.S. — as a Republican, of course.

    • Keppler2

      Not to worry, he wouldn’t win the GOP nomination: he’s not a xtian.

    • JT

      Maybe the judge ordering the psychiatric evaluation thought that was a statement of insanely distorted visual perception like thinking you’re seeing chairs instead of people.

  • JT

    So, is this going to give him less of a sentence? If his religious extremism is insanity, are they going to treat the extremist party members in Israel? And, if mentally ill, why wasn’t he diagnosed as mentally ill a few months ago before he was released from prison early?

    • CanuckDon

      And who will be brave enough to dictate the fine line between religious extremism and mental illness?

      • Bill_Perdue

        There isn’t much of a line and cult members often cross it. Crucified nun dies in ‘exorcism’ – A Romanian nun has died after being bound to a cross, gagged and left alone for three days in a cold room in a convent, Romanian police have said.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4107524.stm

      • Bj Lincoln

        That is the real question and one that needs answered around the globe.

      • gaymex

        What fine line?

    • Bill_Perdue

      Religion and colonialism, as excuses for murdering innocent people, are linked forms of insanity. This murder occurred in the context of the extreme racism and state terrorism of the zionist colony in Palestine, and those murders will continue until that colony is disarmed and its administration is dismantled.

      zionism is the direct and cole cause of the murder of Palestinian children (they just burnt another baby alive) in Gaza last year and hundreds of similar incidents, large and small, since.

      Lidice and Sabra-Shatila. “In June 1942, Lidice, a village in Czechoslovakia, ceased to exist. Lidice had been implicated in the assassination of Heydrich, the Nazi controller of Bohemia and Moravia, and Hitlers’s order was given to “teach the Czechs a final lesson of subservience and humility” http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/lidice_1942.htm

      video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-V-wUkgeQw

      Oradour-sur-Glane and Deir Yassin. “This atrocity was carried out on Saturday 10th June 1944 by soldiers of the Der Führer Regiment of the 2nd Waffen-SS Panzer Division Das Reich. On that day, without giving any explanation, they killed a total of 642 men, women and children, leaving only a few survivors.’ http://www.oradour.info/

      video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TwrwJJ3G6w

      The Warsaw Ghetto and Gaza The Warsaw Ghetto was the largest of all the Jewish ghettos in Nazi-occupied Europe during World War II. It was established in the Polish capital between October and November 16, 1940, in the territory of the General Government of German-occupied Poland. … The death toll mong the Jewish inhabitants of the Ghetto, between deportations to extermination camps, the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and the subsequent razing of the ghetto, is estimated to be at least 300,000.” Wiki

      video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHsGuAGsLm8

      Gaza is the largest and worst concentration camp in the world.

      • JT

        If only clinical insanity could be so easily diagnosed and treated.

        • Bill_Perdue

          That’s no real reap reply because you don’t have one. Your extreme and fundamental ignorance of reality is showing, again.

          The truth of the matter is that the zionists learnel all the wrong lessons from the Nazis and are applying them. That explains the recent burning of another boy and last years incident when a boy was burned alive. And it explains the deliberate murder of hundreds of children by IDF thugs last year.

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/jewish-extremists-torch-palestinian-homes-killing-toddler/2015/07/31/a4680948-2fe5-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html?postshare=6291438339913313 and the other boy who was burned alive last year.

          • JT

            You don’t seem to understand the issue. The issue is what is clinical insanity.

          • MattM

            JT, he understands the issue just fine. But he’d rather switch the subject so that he can take a swing at Israeli military/political policy.

            Of course he’s going to turn the tragic murder of an ally by a fundamentalist into a rant about Israeli policy. Shameless people have no shame.

            Also, I’m looking forward to him referring to my by my official title: supreme Obot.

            That’s Mr. Obot to you, Billy.

          • Bill_Perdue

            No, just plain Obot will do. There’s nothing supreme about you or your slimy evasions of the real question.

          • MattM

            Excuse me, Sir. But I earned my status in the Illuminati through months of hard work infiltrating gay blogs.

          • Bill_Perdue

            If you want to make excuses for zionist mass murder, and you do, be my guest, go to Gaza and talk to the victims of zionist ethnic cleansing and tell them how funny you think it is.

            Or tell the parents of the little boy they just burned to death in the West bank. Maybe they’ll appreciate your humor.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/jewish-extremists-torch-palestinian-homes-killing-toddler/2015/07/31/a4680948-2fe5-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html?postshare=6291438339913313

          • MattM

            I actually don’t. The hypocrisy of the Israeli government is truly disgusting. That being said, this attack on Jerusalem Pride was an internal conflict that has no direct relation to the ongoing turmoil in the West Bank, bar the religious affiliation of the parties involved.

            In the case of the topic at hand, The Israeli government likes to pay its LGBT citizens a lot of lip service, but the nation itself is extremely homophobic.

            If you would like to discuss the topic at hand, I’m more than happy to do so. But you’re going off on a tangent. And as an Obot I’m only programed to talk about the topic before us.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Trying to divert the discussion from the origins of mass murder is an apology for the murders of IDF thugs and those who imitate them.

            It’s not a question of programming, it’s a question of ignorance.

          • JT

            No. Since you were the one trying to divert the discussion, bringing it back to the topic is not diverting it.

          • MattM

            But we’re not talking about mass murders by a government here. We’re talking about the premeditated murder of a participant at a gay pride rally by a religious zealot who wished to kill as many LGBT affiliated people as possible because he believed said behavior was immoral.

            While this worldview might go on to influence foreign policy with regards to the West Bank, that’s not the topic at hand. You’re programmed to deflect back to a greater criticism of Israeli foreign policy. You’re so well programmed you deflect to this point when in fact we’re talking about an INTERNAL conflict.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I am talking about mass murders by a government. You’re not because you don’t get the connection.

            The rest of your comment is just psychobabble.

          • MattM

            But the Hasidic people in question are not the government. Financially supported by the government? Absolutely. Legally enabled by the government? Perhaps. But it’s a sect of Judaism.

            “Psychobable” = I don’t understand and/or I don’t have a response so I’ll explain it away

          • Bill_Perdue

            The zionist government encourages mass murder and it can’t stop the chickens from coming home to roost. and that leads more murders of LGBT people and people who support us.

          • MattM

            The Israeli government (which does encourage mass murder, cannot fault you there) has nothing to do with the Hasidic hatred of gay people other than a shared origin faith. There is no causal link between the two, beyond the fact that all the participants involved are Israeli. The Judaism practiced by mainstream Israeli society is fundamentally different (fundamentally being a key word) to the religion practiced by the Hasidic people. The two parties believe their religious history makes them correct, but the history for each is different.

            Lumping together all Israelis as anti-Palestine and inevitably anti gay is factually inaccurate and reprehensible, and absolves the party involved with the stabbings at Jerusalem pride of responsibility.

          • Bill_Perdue

            All colonists are directly complicit in the murder of Palestinians and the theft of their land.

          • MattM

            Ok. But again, that’s a tangent unrelated to INTERNAL matter at hand. (Why oh why are you still deflecting to an irrelevant tangent?)

          • Bill_Perdue

            yo0ur opinion is excuse mongering. All colonists are directly complicit in the murder of Palestinians and the theft of their land.

          • MattM

            You despise the Israeli government. I get that. And in many ways that’s a justified position. It is a position I in fact agree with in several areas, having seen with my own eyes while in Israel the cold xenophobia and supposedly divine entitlement to swaths of land with no respect or value of the people actually inhabiting said areas).

            But the stabbings at Pride were not sanctioned by the government, or any governing body in Israel. A deranged member of a (similarly deranged) religious sect decided to take out vengeance against secular society. Different motivations and different objectives and a different philosophy. And unlike the Israeli government going after a separate nation, the perpetrator in this stabbing case went after Israel. It was an internal conflict wholly removed from the external conflict Israel is currently a party to.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I despise the zionist colony in Palestine. You think it’s legitimate – I and likely hundreds of millions disagree.

          • MattM

            Where did I say it was legitimate? Oh, because you said I was a Zionist out of the blue. Remember what I said about how you repeat stuff so much you begin to see it as truth? Here is an example.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Do you think it’s legitimate and should exist.

          • MattM

            I answered that question already. I truly believe the government of Israel, as a political force whose goal is to displace the Palestinian, is Illegitimate. It’s not up to me to decide whether it should exist. I wasn’t alive during the years immediately following WWII. I don’t get a say on it’s existence. It exists. But its current existence is illegitimate.

          • MattM

            But what is the REAL question? You go off on tangents. Identify the singular question.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Learn to read. Then read my comment.

          • MattM

            Oh I did. Again, what is the real question? You didn’t answer and now you’re deflecting. Either you don’t know or are hiding something. If you’re being honest then you shouldn’t have difficulty relaying for us mentally impaired folks what the real question is.

            I’ll wait…..

          • JT

            MattM, I know. I’ve been dealing with him for several days now. He just can’t seem to stick to the issue at hand and goes off on tangents and makes outlandish person attacks. He is accomplishing nothing except making himself a laughing stock.

          • MattM

            He’s a troll. He pretends to have sincere, enviable positions so that he gets us to interact with him. Then he actually starts his trolling. A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll.

          • JT

            He certainly seems like an operative for something other than what he claims to be concerned about. But, surprisingly, there are some people who are misled by his few, more lucid moments, into thinking he can engage in a rational discussion. That is shown to be false whenever someone disagrees with him, or when he rambles on about there being no difference between voting for a Democrat and voting for Repuke.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Voting for Democrats and Republicans in voting for mass murder in the Arab and muslim world. Why do you do that? What’s wrong with you.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Obots who engage in personal attacks because they’re not bright enough to formulate political answers are trolls.

          • JT

            You are the one engaging in personal attacks, which you go to at the drop of a hat with anyone who disagrees with you.

          • MattM

            Bill, almost every comment you post includes an attack on the original poster, as is every follow up comment when they call you out. Because you’re a troll. You’re just here to rile us up. You’re so confident in your opinions that you make your Disqus history private. Really brave and self-assured. All you have is unsubstantiated conspiracy theories and hate.

            Pot, meet kettle.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You began the discussion with personal attacks and the rest of what you say, except for your hypocritical denials about supporting zionist mass murder, constitute mindless psycho babble. Be political or go home.

          • MattM

            Um please state specifically where I supported “zionist mass murder” through “hypocritical denials.” Oh wait, you can’t, because I didn’t. But you’re doing your damnedest to deflect deflect deflect (as is your specialty). You just keep repeating that particular line so as to somehow make it true.

            Rightly pointing out you’re a troll isn’t a personal attack. It’s a statement of fact. You’re MO is direct any conversation to a topic you want to discuss, even if it has nothing to do with the original topic. I’m sorry you can’t take it as well as you give.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Do you recognize the legitimacy of the zionist colony in Plestine or do want to see it disarmed and dismantled?

          • MattM

            Disarmed and dismantled. Most sane people do.

          • Bill_Perdue

            If it’s illegitimate then there are no internal matters. But you pretend there are, Obot.

          • MattM

            ??????? What? Again ???????????????????

            Now you’ve gone off the deep end. What reality do you live in?

            I’m commenting on a story about an internal issue in Israel where orthodox religious individuals are violently lashing about against secular institutions/individuals. Illegitimate or no the Israeli government still exists. Unlike God, it’s a tangible entity. It’s governing body. It has internal conflicts. Believing something to be illegitimate does not make it dematerialize/cease to be.

            But seriously, what?????????????????????????????

          • Bill_Perdue

            If it’s illegitimate then there are no internal matters. But you pretend there are, Obot. Do try to pay attention.

          • MattM

            That’s not explaining anything at all. It’s repetition. All you do is repeat, and never ever explain. Just because we believe a governing body to be illegitimate doesn’t mean it ceases to be. We don’t have that kind of power. We’re not wizards. I would type out the paragraph I typed out before, but that would be a waste of time at this point.

            I keep having to explain myself repeatedly to someone who can’t even be bothered to explain himself the first time.

            Frustration aside, is it fun talking to you. You go around and around in circles, proving nothing except that you’re occasionally right but mostly delusional and shallow. So shallow. Every comment turns you into a bigger, and more mythical punchline.

            Your outrage is shallow and underdeveloped, as is your reasoning and “facts.”

          • Bill_Perdue

            More psychobabble and lies from a jerk who thinks the killing of Palestinians is a subject for humor.

            As I said, go to Gaza and explain that to them.

          • MattM

            You’re a pro-Israeli plant trying to make the Palestinian position look stupid. You’re a sick man, pretending to care about Palestine to get people on the pro-genocide Israel side. You just said it down below.

            The people in Gaza who are suffering recognize that there is an Israeli government. It’s the one that’s bombing them mercilessly. The don’t see it as legitimate, but its bombs are certainly real. And they’re trying to get sane people to realize the harm being done to them.

            But you don’t care. You want them to suffer at the hands of Israel. You pretend to be pro-Palestine while making stupid points that turn people away from that cause.

            And all you have left (because you don’t have any facts) is to call me names. Sad, defeated troll is sad. And like every other time you’re caught, you say it’s somehow everyone else’s fault.

            I’m not calling you a loser. But you definitely lost. The Palestinian people deserve better representation than a phony like you. But you’re actually pro Israel. Not shocking there.

          • MattM

            Are you all done, Bill? I’m not saying I won, but you definitely lost.

          • Bill_Perdue

            All you did is prove that you’re a boring zionist troll.

          • MattM

            Lol thanks for the congratulations, Bill. I know losing sucks. You’ll recover, I’m sure.

            Next time bring facts to the discussion.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You’re a boring mindless troll with no analysis and no data to back up your racist thesis that the lives of Palestinians are an ‘internal matter’ or that the subject of their oppression is humorous.

          • Bill_Perdue

            By pretending that the zionist colony in Palestine is legitimate.

          • MattM

            I did that where, specifically? If it’s true you shouldn’t have any trouble proving it. You keep saying I believe this and that about Zionism/the Israeli government but that’s all it is – you keep saying that. It’s an accusation that came out of thin air and you keep repeating it. Do you think that by repeating the accusation over and over it becomes fact? You do realize that accusations must be substantiated to be factual, right? I can say “I have wings and can fly” until I die but it doesn’t make it true.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I answered that.

          • MattM

            Oh so then you won’t mind providing some links and quotes. If you already did it, it should just be a cut and paste job, right? Because you did it before, right?

            Not to belabor the point, but please, just one example. I’ll wait.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I answered that.

          • MattM

            But ya didn’t, Blanche. You never answer that question. Your response is always “I answered that.”

            Lol, your pathetically shallow intellect is peaking through. I’m amazed you got this far.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Poor little troll is upset and continues it’s personal attacks.

          • MattM

            Super duper upset. Nothing makes me more upset than proving people wrong. You found me out. Whatever will I do? (Laugh at you, probably. Oh wait, I’ve already started.)

          • Steve Weinstein

            Please; just ignore him.

          • MattM

            But I’m having so much fun!!!!!!!

          • Piet

            He’s a bloviating gas bag. His mother had to post a sign on the basement door that says No Open Flames.

          • MattM

            But I got proof that he knows nothing that I can throw back at him whenever. He’s my new pet project. I bet I can drive him off.

          • Bill_Perdue
          • Bill_Perdue

            I’ve read your comment history. You’re a troll and an irrelevant one that.

          • MattM

            Awww Bill you’re breaking my heart.

            Why must you deny our love? I just want to grow old with you.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The issue is mass murder.

          • JT

            That’s an issue. It’s not the issue being talked about here.

          • Bill_Perdue

            It most certainly is the issue. The Vietnam war and now in the aftermath of the wars of aggression by the Bushes, the Clintons and Obama we’ve seen a spate of mass murders, including a huge number of murders by killer cops.

            The same is true of colonial society. The mass murder of Palestinians always brings thugs and the insane out from under their rocks and they imitate the IDS.

          • JT

            No, it’s not. It’s an issue you’re injecting into the discussion.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You don’t like it because it lays the blame for wars and mass murder directly on zionist, Republicans, Democrats and other rightists.

            Too bad.

          • JT

            Again, back to the original point: you were not talking about the issue being discussed. But, you know that. So this is a waste of time, as others have pointed out. If you were at all serious about having any issues you raise be discussed, you should realize that you are only defeating your purpose by conducting your self in this manner.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I understand that you want to limit discussion and divert things with personal attacks. It won’t work. You and your right wing party will continue to lose elections to the left. That’s a good thing. Sayonara, Democrat.

          • JT

            That’s another one of your off target responses. All of this clearly indicates you are not interested in real discussion, which will not suffer from your absence.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Discussions can’t be derailed by Democrats and their zionist friends.

            You keep trying and it wont work. You grow more tedious.

          • JT

            Thanks for confirming the point I just made. If you were actually interested in discussion and trying to persuade, you wouldn’t say such a silly and counterproductive thing, especially here, where most people vote Democratic.

          • MattM

            Discussions can only be derailed by you, Bill. Or at least this conversation is.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The original point is the degradation of life by Democrat, Republicans, zionists and their endless wars.

          • JT

            No. That’s about the only point you try to make. But it isn’t what anybody was talking about. Keep trying to persuade people by saying such things. It’s bound to work at some point.

          • Steve Weinstein

            Just ignore him.

          • JT

            He is tedious, definitely.

      • MattM

        Bill, I’m still waiting for your responses. Or have you fled in surrender?

        • Bill_Perdue

          Don’t be any more absurd than you have to, Obot, I ate lunch.

          • MattM

            I assume it was crow.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Stick to the subject Obot.

          • MattM

            Hehe, you were talking about lunch. I had to go for that opening you gave me.

            Like you care about sticking to the subject. You keep changing the subject about an internal conflict in Israel to how Israel conducts itself on the world stage/with regards to the (oppressed) Palestinian people. In fact, that’s all you do. And when asked for facts or even a reason as to why you’re bringing it up, you attack.

            A troll is a troll is a troll. Bill Perdue is a troll is a troll is a troll.

          • Bill_Perdue
          • MattM

            So I take it you’re breaking off our engagement? But I’ve already reserved a venue and a caterer! I can’t get those deposits back!

    • B Snow

      I’m thinking psych eval is a way to keep him locked up somewhere, especially since he has proved he’ll just keep killing if he’s let out after he’s completed whatever sentence they give him.

      And it will be interesting to see the reactions from the far right wing here if psychiatrists anywhere decide that extremist religion is a form of mental illness.

  • doninkansas

    Mark my words, he will get off, will serve no time and will probably not even spend much time in a hospital. Israel has created a huge problem with their deference to the ultra Orthodox folks. It is sad how such a small segment of the population is given so much political power. Although we see it here in the USA with our religious wing nuts as well.

    • Harry Underwood

      It’s because the orthodox are “more authentic” in their culture than secular Israelis or non-orthodox religious Jews in Israel, so they’re treated with kid gloves by the state. Also, orthodox and religious-nationalist families are practically Quiverfulls, so that’s a growing voting bloc at the expense of non-orthodox Israelis.

    • Bj Lincoln

      He did 10 years for stabbing people. You don’t think he will do time for killing 1 and stabbing 6?! The world is watching closely this time too.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        First offense apparently doesn’t prove you’re mental.

        HTH.

    • Steve Weinstein

      Mark my words, this guy is not getting out during his lifetime.

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        The people responsible for shooting up the LGBT center in Tel Aviv never went to prison. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for this guy to be locked up for life.

        • Steve Weinstein

          Well, for better or worse, Israel follows the British legal system. OJ got off. The police spent a few $million on the case but it got all screwed up. This one is definitely open and shut – i mean, aside from witnesses, video, not to mention his having done it before.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            OJ was brought to trial. The jury let OJ off. Primarily because DNA evidence was relatively new at the time and CSI wasn’t playing nearly every night on CBS ad nauseam.

            Nobody was ever brought to trial for the Tel Aviv shooting…and likely they never will be.

          • Steve Weinstein

            OK, then, the over-100 unsolved cases from the Civil Rights era. Or the Gardner theft. I could go on, but if you really believe that police, prosecutors & public officials have conspired to let the person responsible for this go, we have no common ground for discussion.

            Israelis were uniformly (w/exception of the ultra-ultra orthodox jews, of course) horrified by this crime. Israel is a tiny nation. When something like that happens, there are at most three removes from anyone to one of the victims.

  • TexasBoy

    “A Jerusalem judge today ordered…Yishai Schlissel to undergo a psychiatric evaluation …”

    Seriously, anyone that believes that existence is nothing more than an elaborate game of The Sims, controlled by all powerful invisible sky beings….

    Psychiatric hospitals should be overflowing.

  • bryan

    Anyone who thinks a god speaks to them is likely in need of a psychiatric evaluation. Schlissel is in need of a criminal evaluation.

  • bambinoitaliano

    What discrimination? Nah. What bigotry? Nope. Religious extremist? Pffftt. Terrorism? Lol!! Just some isolated crazy guy acted on his own that need psychiatric help. Case close. Very unfortunate for the victims. But now we gonna move on like it did not happen. Everything is hunky dory and life goes on.

  • bkmn

    I hope the authorities are also looking long and hard at the sect he belongs to. There are probably more like him out there.

    • MattM

      Not probably. I’ve encountered some of his ilk on their home turf. Absolutely nutso people.

  • oikos

    The evaluation should have been ordered before releasing him from jail for stabbing someone.

    • MarkOH

      I know! Wasn’t he evaluate after his FIRST stabbing?

      • Lumpy Gaga

        First taste is always free.

      • oikos

        It doesn’t appear so. You would think an exam would be mandatory for someone who had already done this before.

        • gaymex

          Why would it be? Queers.

          • oikos

            True. If he killed some other ‘devout’ person’ they would mandate it.

          • gaymex

            Yes. That would frighten the pious.

  • leastyebejudged

    His family knew, the orthodox community knew, they created him, and they should be held accountable.

  • Steven Leahy

    Sorry not buying it. He just acted on what most of his ilk believe anyway. While the guy is likely mentally ill when are we gonna stop as societies giving a pass to religionists and pretending the problem is something else?

    • gaymex

      This is slightly off topic, but Huff Post today had an article on the Sacred Stone of the Mormons. That entertained me for a couple of hours as I clicked around on the net. It is said that Smith would put the stone in his hat and then place his face in the hat–to block all light–so that the stone could translate the golden tablets into English. He was a magician and before “enlightenment” went around the countryside helping people look for buried treasure using the stone as an oracle…never found a treasure for anyone but himself, through charges for his stone work.
      My point is that he founded a religion based on pure, unadulterated bullshit…the same likely holds true for all of the other world religions. Scam artist dupes mentally ill followers for financial gain or political power.
      I am so over all of them. What a fucked up mess.

      • Steven Leahy

        LOL me too. Well said.

      • skeptical_inquirer

        Occasionally I wish I could bullshit that well but I actually have a conscience.

    • John T

      Ultra orthodox communities in Israel are supported by the government so that the men don’t work and instead can study scripture all day long. Now everybody is shocked that this one guy actually had the balls to follow through and act on the instructions his scriptures contain.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    CNN reported that the man was INTERVIEWED on Ultra-Orthodox media the week of the attack, and they played audio. He stated that, basically, it wouldn’t require one man doing extreme things if thousands of the righteous came out and stopped the parade.

    And he was clearly “together” enough to conceal the weapon as he inserted himself into the crowd. Pic exists.

    I know that such a hearing is necessary for justice to prevail, but I smell bullshit already.

  • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

    Ah yes, but then, should he also therefore order psychiatric evaluations for everyone that follows a fundamentalist religion?

    • B Snow

      Yes.

    • gaymex

      I’ll double down on B. Snow’s yes.

  • uhhuhh

    Why hasn’t their family home been destroyed yet?

  • uhhuhh

    First step in the charade that ends in letting him off.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Words he’ll never hear: “Hi, I’m Muhammad and I’ll be your court-appointed psychiatrist today.”

  • Lumpy Gaga

    If Hamas wants to kill more “occupiers”, the answer could lie in becoming Orthodox Jews. What to do, what to do…

  • Lumpy Gaga

    First, they came for the fag-haglets….

  • gaymex

    The kindest thing that can be said of followers of any religion is that they are delusional and often seriously mentally ill and that they are unable to check themselves with reality. The best outcome for Schlissel’s evaluation would be to show how his mental illness was nurtured by his religion because its adherents are all mentally ill. Fat chance, but one can hope.

  • meonthissite

    They’ll find that there’s nothing wrong with him I suspect which begs the question, how religion affects the mind.

    • Daniel

      No, it doesn’t. “Begging the question” does not mean asking it or raising it—no matter whom you might ask.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    “We think it’s really a great tragedy, we regret it very much and pray for the recovery of the wounded,” Rivka Schlissel told family members of Shira Banki”

    Perhaps I am too cynical, but I have doubts about this showing of compassion towards the victim’s family. If they are of the same sect as the man then most likely they hold the same views as him on being gay. Again, I’m probably being too cynical.

  • James

    Maybe something gets lost in the translation, but the mother’s statement sounded somewhat lacking in English.

  • AT2016

    These fools are becoming a big problem. Delaying flights for not wanting to sit next to women. Stabbing people. Whats next. Religion is poison.

    • skeptical_inquirer

      I wish that all these acts, big and small, would just vaporize the ability for these fools to demand kowtowing and unearned respect.

  • IamM

    Well judge, He went to prison for attempting to murder people at a gay pride parade, when he was released he immediately went and murdered someone at gay pride, then tells the court he doesn’t recognize their authority…he was hacking at people with a knife in broad daylight, gee tough call, what do YOU think his mental state is?

  • Hank

    It’s like how they tried to paint all the white racists shooters in America as mentally ill, they’re not. They are totally sane but informed by a racist superstructure that their hate is allowed. Same thing with this Hasidic turd. He’s normal. They all think the way he does. He just took it to the logical extension. He is not mentally ill. Religion is insane.

    • skeptical_inquirer

      I am also rather tired of the “he’s white so he’s nuts” crap as well. The legal standard of insanity is pretty damn high and none of these whacko shooters reach it. They know who they are, who they want to kill, know it’s punishable by prison and plan how to do it.

  • Ogre Magi

    THEY NEED TO FORCE HIM TO EAT A BIG PIECE OF PORK

  • crankyd

    Fuck it, just execute this piece of shit and be done with him.