Trump Lead Now Exceeds 2-1 Over Bush

  • Okay, this has been hilarious and all, but what happens if he actually wins the nomination?

    • leastyebejudged

      He wins the election, get’s to appoint Supreme Court Justices, rolls-back as much progress that’s been made the last 8 years as he can get away with, and accelerates the destruction of the middle class.

      The nation ends up fucked for a generation.

      • MBear

        8 years? Try a few centuries

      • JT

        I thought appointments to SCOTUS didn’t matter. That’s what I’ve been hearing a lot from a very knowledgeable source who posts here frequently and at length.

        • fuow

          Yeah, together with the know-it-alls who insist we’re a tiny fraction of less than 1.8% and all of us vote, anyway.

        • HadenoughBS

          SCOTUS appointments matter as much as anything that’ll be at stake during the next president’s term due to probable retirements of sitting Justices. It’s extremely important a Rethuglican NOT be elected to turn back what successes we’ve enjoyed these past 8-10 years by replacing retiring Justices with a liberal bent with those similar to the thinking of bombastic Justice Scalia. Those appointments would be disastrous!

          • JT

            I know. I made that very point repeatedly to the person mentioned to no avail.

            There was a /s above.

          • BudClark

            If the Unimaginables DO win, Her Excellency the Honourable Madame Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg will sit as an active Justice until the age of 110 or so, JUST to make their hemorrhoids BLEED.

            NEVER cross a Jewish MOTHER (grin).

          • BudClark

            We NEED an all women-all liberal Court. The men have had MORE than sufficient time to fuck things up, even with their few bright spots.

          • Piet

            From your lips to god’s ear.

          • Todd20036

            I think JT was snarkily imitating BP

      • Toasterlad

        Frankly, I think Trump is the least dangerous of the GOP candidates. Most of his social rhetoric is just political theater (and poorly done political theater, at that) to rile up the racist base. He’s not indebted to the Koch brothers or any of the other billionaires who bought the rest of the candidates. And he’d never get anything past a Congress that IS bought by billionaires.

        Granted, his reign would be an embarrassing fiasco and a nightmare in terms of foreign relations, but assuming he didn’t start WWIII because Putin didn’t kiss his ass, he’d be unlikely to leave the country any worse off than it is.

        Fortunately (or unfortunately), he’ll never even be the GOP nominee, let alone President. No way the Republicans let a dangerous loose canon get that far in the political process.

        • leastyebejudged

          Thing is, it’s not really The President necessarily that does the bulk of the damage; it’s the administration he puts in place.

          A Trump administration would be pretty scary.

          • Toasterlad

            Meh. I’m not losing sleep over it. After eight years of an incompetent AND malicious administration from which we’re only beginning to recover, I’d settle for one that’s merely incompetent. Trump is relatively harmless as long as we all agree to keep telling him he’s the best ever.

            But it doesn’t matter. He’ll never be the nominee, let alone the president.

          • leastyebejudged

            How old are you, if you don’t mind me asking ?

            I only ask because I distinctly remember people saying the same things about Ronald Reagan.

          • Toasterlad

            Old enough to have lived through the Reagan years.

            But while no one took Reagan as seriously as they should have, he at least served as Governor of California before becoming President. He was a real political figure, despite having been an actor.

            Trump makes Reagan look like Churchill.

          • Doug105

            If somehow it did happen, a lot of damage would come just from rubber stamping the gop agenda.

        • robirob

          “And he’d never get anything past a Congress that IS bought by billionaires.”

          You get that one right for sure. But for him it’s personal as always.

          http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/kochs-freeze-out-trump-120752.html

        • CottonBlimp

          I think you’re right that Trump would be the least effective at pursuing the GOP agenda, BUT I worry his utter lack of actual governing experience (and his complete ignorance, his disinterest in fixing his ignorance, and the arrogance that arises out of his ignorance) would lead to an administration that wasn’t just politically at odds with what we want, but completely incompetent and disastrous. It’s like the difference between a supervillain who wants to rob a bank and one who wants to blow up the planet.

      • 8? Try 65. Or even more.

    • bkmn

      Even Bernie Sanders could win going up against tRump.

    • tcinsf

      There’s a point where I think the GOP is going to say “oh shit” and do anything to end his campaign.

      • bkmn

        They have people that take people like the Donald out of service.

        • clay

          “El Chapo”

          • bkmn

            Yup. Their buddy Putin has friends like that too. I saw that Scotland Yard finally came out and blamed Russia for killing one of their former Russian operatives in London a few years ago with a radioactive isotope that they traced back to Moscow.

      • Gene

        I would think…but, what? embarassing marital troubles? yeah. right. Shady business dealings? He would put them on campaign flyers. Talk of his Bankruptcies? “And I came back from them…look how great I am”. Past positions on gay rights/abortion “Excuse me, I saw the light!”. Not Christian enough? (that MIGHT work) but if he makes it the general election, the loathing of Hillary would make that a non issue. Refuse to give $$$ support? He does not really need it, and there is enough SINCERE support for him that others WILL help with even more money…
        Its….its just fucked up.
        .
        But its good theatre
        The proof of the pudding will be his performance in the debate…unless he just HUMILIATES himself (and the POLLS agree he that he did)…he is in this for a good long while.

        • Side note: Trump is not using his own money to run. He lent his money to the campaign which will be paid back from contributions. You think Trump does anything with his OWN money? LOL

          • Doug105

            CAn he make interest on that? A high interest rate would explain this whole sideshow.

          • I think he lives for the attention. This started in the 80s. He loved being on shows like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. Most people at that level of wealth/income actively avoid that kind of publicity. He seeks it out. Self-promotion is his own actual talent and you have to admit that he’s quite successful at that.

          • Doug105
          • madknits

            Because he is basically trash. It doesn’t matter how much money he has, he has no class.

          • I remember years ago one of my friends saying about his building at Columbus Circle: “Only Donald Trump could take the ugliest building in the city and make it even tackier.” You say trash; I say tacky. A distinction without a difference. LOL

          • TampaDink

            If he attached a high enough interest rate to that and future loans to his campaign, he might be willing to loan his campaign everything he’s got. End of the day, he’s still got a problem with social conservatives based on having two living former wives. Either way, Trump getting the GOP nomination or running as a 3rd party will only serve to benefit Hillary.

          • They weren’t bothered by Reagan’s ex-wife. Or McCain’s. Gingrich is on #3 and their favorite radio show host Limbaugh is on #4. If it were a Democrat we’d never hear the end of it but in Dominionism the rules are only for those not in positions of power.

          • TampaDink

            True…..but the fundies will be as enthusiastic about a Melania (Melanoma) as first lady as the rabid racists will be about 1st Latina, Columba Bush.

          • Jeb has had affairs. Also, he’s Catholic which I get a sense they don’t actually know.

            This is going to be even more fun than the last GOP primary cycles! I’m going to need a LOT of popcorn!

          • TampaDink

            The affairs they can easily overlook.
            Catholicsm is also forgivable. Newt was okay with them. All of the SCOTUS justices that aren’t Jewish are cathoholics, including every one of the most anti-gay conservative ones. But the rabid racism that flows through the sewers of their base drives them. I suspect that they’d like to paraphrase an old ad campaign for UPS…as a reminder “what has brown done to you?”

      • fuow

        One may hope. He’s fully capable of running third party, it’s early enough in the process for him to do so and it would split the teatard/rethuglican/fundagelical vote so badly they’d lose to any Democrat.

        • He’s not going to do that. It’s way too expensive (getting on enough state ballots to win the electoral college is a lot of work. I watched Perot supporters do it back in 1992. Trump isn’t willing to work that hard).

        • ph

          I hope you will reconsider the use of “tard.” LIke, formerly, “that’s so gay,” it’s both common, and a thoroughly insensitive term.

          • fuow

            I don’t do political correctness.

      • oikos

        That will hopefully set him up to run as a third party candidate.

        • Chucktech

          Please, sweet dead jesus, PLEASE let him do that!

          • Gerry Fisher

            …and isn’t it so obvious how much fun Trump’s having? Too much fun to quit. (And him enjoying himself is FAR more important than the welfare of a political party or a the well-being of a nation, mind you.)

          • madknits

            This is one of the best observations I’ve encountered so far. He is doing this for a lark. What happens when shit gets real, and it stops being fun? Does he quit, like the Half Governor?

          • clay

            He can take it further than Cain did.

          • Cuberly

            He totally loves it. And the MSM just stand there and hold the microphone for him.

            Have you seen him cut off people asking him questions? He interrupts them the minute there’s the potential for a followup question. He basically owns the questioner. How that translates into the debate format….HA….this is going to be interesting.

        • bambinoitaliano

          They are stuck either way, their campaign is toast. Unless the Kochs literally take Donald out of the race.

          • Todd20036

            Won’t work. He’s rich, and many people will beg him to run.

            He’ll run 3rd party if the Kochs piss him off too much

          • bambinoitaliano

            Which is good for the democrat either way.

          • Steve Teeter

            Maybe. If 3rd party Trump pulls enough support away from both D’s & R’s, so much that nobody gets a majority in the Electoral College, know what happens then? It gets thrown to the House of Representatives for a decision. And you know who controls that.

      • PLAINTOM

        The Donald meets The Godfather.

    • Gene

      unlikely….but, a couple of republican operatives I know here in (red…slowly trending purple) GA tell me that the “not 1% chance” they had given him is no long being spoken of. Long shot they say, but…not outside of real of possibility. Scares the hell out of them
      His running as a THIRD party candidate would GUARANTEE a Hillary victory. Thats what really keeps them up at nights

      • Chris Baker

        I wonder if he is secretly a Democrat and that is his strategy for getting Hillary in.

        • canoebum

          He is not.

          • Gerry Fisher

            I don’t think he has any convictions or principles other being a fame whore and trying to leverage that for making money.

          • canoebum

            He’s a megalomaniac, like Gadaffi or Saddam Hussain.

        • Chucktech

          Strategy or not, that would be the sure-fire guarantee.

    • KQCA

      I am a little concerned, as I have devout Republican relatives who have bought into the tea party propaganda that we must give the wealthy breaks and keep them rich because they provide jobs and fuel the economy for us all.
      Pardon me for a sec… I have to go puke.

      • Save me a place at the vomitorium.

      • Gerry Fisher

        We’ve been doing that for 35 years…seriously, since Reagan. What have we gotten for it? Booms and Busts like the ones we suffered before the Great Depression and the legislation that corrected things (temporarily). Middle-class stagnation (and attacks on the middle class) and a re-distribution of wealth up in the top 5% or so.

        It’s been a spectacular failure. “Sounding good” and “Well, I really believe it!” don’t change the facts.

    • Captain Jack

      Who are the Koch brothers backing? I assume that’s who will get the nomination ..

      • ScottJL

        Walker most likely.

    • Doug105

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      • Steve Teeter

        Like it.

      • Sk3ptic

        I just can’t articulate how truly delicious this mashup is…at every level!
        Villains! Unnatural hair color! Penguin bodies! A parody of the upper class! Pancake makeup! And that’s just the top image!

    • CottonBlimp

      Every election in the past decade, Republican strategists have been repeating over and over that the GOP *needs* to court latino voters, so take that as some comfort that Trump couldn’t win nationally.

      It’s also worth pointing out, the GOP primary process isn’t actually democratic. If Trump doesn’t appeal to the needs of the party, he won’t be their Presidential candidate no matter how popular he is with the right wing.

    • Todd20036

      Then Hillary can vacation in Hawaii for 12 months and still win the general.

      Moreover, she will have such long coattails that we will get back the Senate, and maybe even the house (though I do doubt that)

    • PiperPine

      Rudy Guiliani was polling this high in 2007 and Herman Cain in 2011… these national polls dont always reflect the early states where caucuses and primaries occur.

      That said to answer your question: if he wont the nomination the entire Republican Party would start having to try and figure out how to respond to his statements and every GOP candidate would get questions on them as policies. It would be an utter strea of consciousness disaster.

  • bkmn

    It is hillarious that tRump has better numbers than Jebya AND Snott Walker combined. There have to be some heads on the verge of exploding in both the upper level GOP power brokers and the Koch brothers.

    • b

      Good.

    • clay

      Both Bush and Walker have better poll numbers (and Bush has more money) than Romney did at this point 4 years ago.

    • Chucktech

      That really is fascinating, if not a bit scary, isn’t it?

  • HZ81

    Run Forrest Trump, run!

  • MattM

    This is going to make for a fascinating chapter in future US History textbooks.

    • Gustav2

      Not in Texas.

      • bkmn

        Beat me to it.

    • bkmn

      Don’t worry, the fundicrats in Texas will revise them.

    • Crimminy

      Only if he actually becomes president. If he drops out or loses at any point, everyone will forget about this pretty much immediately afterward.

  • Gustav2

    I think it is interesting the average Evangelical is going for the ‘straight talking’ Trump, but their religious leaders are not:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2015/07/30/who-do-evangelical-leaders-prefer-for-president-in-2016-good-news-for-marco-rubio-scott-walker-and-carly-fiorina/

    • bkmn

      Well the Pope says not to use birth control but most Catholics do anyway. And the fundies listen to Rush and FuxSnooz for guidance.

  • Blake Jordan

    I am sure democrats and independent are voting in these polls as well, just to F with the rethuglicans!!!

    How do they verify someone is a “valid” rethuglican voter?

  • LonelyLiberal

    We’re still pre-debate, so I’m taking this with a large grain of salt.

    • bkmn

      At least one of the guys in the debate will be eaten alive by the gentle, loving Teafolkβ„’. Guaranteed.

    • Blake Jordan

      As if the rest of the candidates have the intelligence to “out debate” trump?
      It will be a competition to see who is the least idiotic!!!

      • LonelyLiberal

        In the clown car, it always is. What hasn’t come into play is any weapons the Koch Brothers can bring to bear, and that should be significant.

        The Last Clowns Standing are still, in my opinion, Walker and Bush.

        • ScottJL

          What are they going to bring, Walker?

          • JW Swift

            The Koch’s and other billionaire players in this game have enough time and enough money to throw into attack ads against the Dem nominee to potentially scare the country into voting for a freakin’ chimpanzee, if it were to get the Rethuglican nomination. The landscape will change, dramatically, this election cycle thanks to “Citizens United” and a toothless FEC. It ain’t gonna’ be ‘business as usual’ at all.

          • TampaDink

            …voting for a freakin’ chimpanzee…

            Enter Donald Trump, who is quite adept at throwing feces.

          • clay

            I thought all chimp references were to Bush 43.

          • TampaDink

            Not all. Wasn’t st. Ronnie a co-star with one back when he was doing what he did “best”?

    • clay

      We’re still nearly 6 months from the first caucuses/vote. At this point 4 years ago, Bachman & Cain were their darlings and Perry hadn’t even entered the race, yet, but by the Iowa Caucuses, all three had surged, crashed, and two had already burnt out.

      • LonelyLiberal

        Yeah, the Republican attention span is very short.

  • TexasBoy

    Coming soon, a Trump-Palin GOP Presidential ticket. Stupidity, it’s what the people want.

    • bkmn

      If tRump is dumb enough to ask her to be his VP he had better double his security staff to make sure she doesn’t stab him in the back.

      • TampaDink

        She’d quit between brandishing the knife & making contact.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Nah, won’t happen. He wouldn’t want another loud mouth upstaging his.

  • fuow

    This is but too, too delightful.
    1) The teatard base hates Bush.
    2) If the rethuglican party and FAUX-News try to expose him for whom he really is, the base will rally even more to him.
    3) He can afford to run as a third party candidate and the rethuglicans know it.

    This is so evil, so wonderfully convuluted and evil, I wonder if Hilary is channeling her great-aunt Lucrezia Borgia again.

    • clay

      May their dislike for Bush/Graham ’16 depress their voter participation.

  • secretlab

    Brawndo’s got what plants crave!

  • StuckNtexas

    So sad because it just shows how screwed up Republican supporters really are. Gay marriage isn’t ruining America, but Faux News is.

  • Carson

    I hope others are doing as I am: contributing to Trumps campaign, writing positively of him on nut sites like Freerepublic, and volunteering for his campaign. We are being treated to the most delicious implosion of the Republican Party ever imagined!!

    • SunsetGay

      You know… If you go on Breitbart or any of the other Teabag websites, all the comments are “trumping Trump” (pun intended). I’ve wondered if it was genuine support or people on our side trolling them. πŸ˜‰

      • ScottJL

        Yes.

    • non

      You can’t be serious. You contributed money to Trump’s campaign? If it was a significant amount of money, why not donate it to a worthy cause that could do some good? If it is an insignificant amount, it won’t make an impact anyway so why bother?

  • Cuberly
  • seththayer

    The GOP did this to themselves. Now they need to live with it.

  • Max_1

    It amazes me when people are drawn to a man whose ego is huge, his wife is third, and his casino’s are bankrupt.

    • JW Swift

      It amazes me even more that an apparently significant number of people in this country seem to think Trump’s bully tactics based upon knee-jerk reactions, are how we should run this country (and deal with foreign relations, too.)

    • Chucktech

      You’re forgetting he’s a fuckin’ TV star, and we ARE talking about Americans…

    • Steve Teeter

      I have almost always lost money at a casino. So how can the owner be losing too?

  • SunsetGay

    I wonder what will happen after the first debate. Let’s not forget, Trump is a brilliant showman. He is a master performer as evidenced by his reality TV series.

    The difference is that debates are not scripted. He needs to respond to 9 other Republicans who are ready to give their left nuts to see him go down in flames. So this could either be his downfall, or his triumph.

    Either way… Grab the popcorn!

    • BBauerNH

      In local NH news… Trump is NOT attending this week’s GOP slugfest at St. Anslem’s College because he’s mad at the local paper (NH Union Leader) who is one of the debate sponsors. I’m guessing he’s just being dramatic…

      • clay

        If they won’t endorse him before the debate, he won’t participate in the debate. I wonder if the GOP “doesn’t treat him fairly” if he won’t participate in their primary?

    • Octavio

      I suspect FUX will ask simple yes/no questions of all ten pretenders to the throne, not allowing them much explanation or to give more information beyond 30 seconds. Can you imagine each one giving one minute to explain a position or point on every question? The debate would drone on for hours!

      • SunsetGay

        Actually, I happen to think the Grand Ayatollahs of the Fox News Aryan Brotherhood are plotting with Roger Ailes on how to stop Trump.

        That and they care about ratings. So without breaking the rules of the debates, I could see this becoming an entertaining shit-show meant to trip Trump.

        • Octavio

          I have heard from several futurists that Roger Ailes will be dead before the 2016 election. πŸ™‚

      • clay

        Four years ago, Fox New’s early August debate was 8 candidates and 2 hours. This year’s is 10 candidates and 1.5 hours. You might be right.

        • Do you know if this will be available on Youtube or some other internet site? I’m going to be gone and really want to watch the debate.

          • TampaDink

            I have no doubt that it will be mirrored on many sites, quite possibly even this one.

          • clay

            I don’t know about video, but transcripts should be.

          • Thanks Clay!

        • Steve Teeter

          Only 1.5 hours?? 10 candidates? Opening and closing statements would take up that much time.

      • They should have to ring in like Family Feud or Jeopardy.

        • TampaDink

          It is a game to them, so why not?

  • Max_1

    Because the best way to win the title: Fiscally Conservative
    … Is to elect a multiple bankrupted casino owner.

  • Max_1

    Because the best way to win the title: Family Values
    … Is to elect a man who’s on his third marriage.

  • Octavio

    The White House will look odd after Trump has it completely covered in gold leaf. πŸ™‚

    • canoebum

      Brass. And tinted windows.

      • Octavio

        Maybe that gold marbled mirror effect from the 70s?

        • canoebum

          You can’t put the name Trump on a building if it doesn’t have mylar windows. Remember his Las Vegas property? And among the Trump crimes in Las Vegas, don’t forget closing down the Holy Cow Brewery on Sahara so Ivana could build her gaudy condo tower, which never got built. Best brews and nachos in town!

          • Octavio

            Yup. The Brewery is gone. πŸ™‚ But on the plus side, Trump’s hotel/casino had a serious bed bug problem for about 2.5 years. Their occupancy rate is still WAY down for Vegas. πŸ™‚

    • Thankfully the presidents don’t have carte blanche over the public rooms of the White House. Or it would be a sea of gold leaf, crystal and tacky tacky art. Sorta like Graceland, shudder.

  • Dennis

    Okay, Gawker has posted Trump’s cell phone number! They base it on knowing Trump decided to open up a direct personal line of communication between voters and Lindsey Graham by giving out Graham’s cell number, so he must be in support of having his number published as well.
    Readers are reporting his voice mail box is full.
    For those who wish to phone Trump and ask him important questions about his stance on the issues, his number is reported to be (917) 756-8000.

    • Dennis

      and a 917 phone number Mr Trump, really? Billions of dollars and a 917 number? He should know anybody who’s anybody has the 212 prefix.
      So disappointing.

      • Chucktech

        I’m afraid they’re used up. We would have to go to 8 digit numbers. Yeah, I’m sure that tee’s him, no end.

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          Sitting in $10 billion, and he can’t get a 212 number. That’s just sad. I feel so sorry for him, I’d even sell him mine for just $1 billion.

          • Chucktech

            Go for it!!!!

    • Lumpy Gaga

      So two entities have now pulled the “I published your number” stunt:

      * Donald Trump
      * Gawker

      Excuse me if I pass…

  • This has been so much fun so far. The party cannot allow Trump to get the nomination. I just don’t have a clue how they prevent that from happening and I suspect they don’t either. Sex scandals? LOL Gaffes and flip-flops? as if. What is there about him people don’t already know and that his supporters don’t care about.

    Here’s the real problem for the GOP. A lot of their primaries are winner-take all. Trump’s liability is that he’s hardly anyone else’s second choice so other candidates dropping out doesn’t help him. Rubio’s supporters will switch to Bush or Walker or Kasich or someone else if he pulls out. Hardly any of them will go to Trump. In an apportioned primary system where you got the percentage of delegates that you got votes in that state, Trump never gets anywhere near enough delegates for the nomination. But if he wins with 20% in enough states, they can’t stop him.

    Quite a mess they’ve made for themselves. It couldn’t happen to worse people. *evil laugh*

    • Chucktech

      I’m reminded of the shitty ending of an otherwise great movie, “Network:”

      “Guess we’ll just have to kill him…”

    • Todd20036

      sex scandals won’t work. If no one cares about his failed relationships with women, and no man is willing to be caught naked with him (lord knows I don’t need money that desperately) then I guess he’ll have to win the GOTP nomination. YAY IDIOTS!

      • What it would take is a “Face in the Crowd Moment”. (If you don’t know that film, it’s worth your time.) Basically the equivalent of Obama’s god and guns comment but worse. Given how much he mouths off he’s eventually going to say something that turns off his fans in front of a mic or camera (especially one he doesn’t know is on) if he hasn’t already.

        • coram nobis

          “A Face in the Crowd” is a very worthwhile film about this kind of media personality. “Ace in the Hole” and “The Sweet Smell of Success” are also noirish looks at media hype, also from that period and also still timely.

    • Rand503

      My hope is either one of two things will happen: Trump wins the nomination and loses the election in a landslide. The GOP engages in a long civil war and divides in two roughly equal parts– the old guard and the angry old white male along with the religious right.

      Or, Trump loses the nomination and forms his own party. Both parties lose, and it’s a permanent breakup of the GOP in to two small parties.

      The old guard will have to spend the next decade rebuilding it’s brand and must resign itself to losing many elections.

      Either way we win, and the real assholes are isolated.

      • PiperPine

        A Bull Moose situation would certainly be interesting to say the least o.o

      • I don’t see him actually running as a 3rd party candidate. Yes, he threatened to do so but that’s just to scare the party leadership. I could be wrong of course but unless there’s a huge public outpouring where he’s ahead in the polls (as Perot was at one time in 1992) he’s not going to spend that much money to be the spoiler.

        But, remember that a split doesn’t necessarily leave the Democrats in the plurality. there are a lot of people who are only Democrats because they don’t want the religious right in power. they might vote for the moderate (what I call “country club”) wing of the GOP if the Teabaggers split off.

      • Ontogenesis

        I would like either of these, and for Bernie to run against him. Bernie would win.

    • PiperPine

      Yeah that’s a fair assessment of the map. The GOP wanted to avoid the messy nominations of 2008 and 2012 without addressing the underlying reasons why those were so messy.

    • Sk3ptic

      It just gets me all misty eyed that even the GOP base is so fucking bored with themselves that Trump gives ’em a chubby.

  • Max_1

    Because the best way to win the title: Humanitarian
    … Is to elect a man who can’t stop talking about his wealth.

    • TampaDink

      This supports my theory.
      Vegetarians eat vegetables.
      Humanitarians, therefore, eat humans.

  • Max_1

    If GOP are elephants…
    … Don’t step in the Trump piles.

  • Rex

    America is crazier than I thought.

    • ScottJL

      Welcome to Earth, enjoy your visit.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Love it.

    The numbers are painting John Ellis Bush Bush as a Sore Loserman nice and early in the game.

  • David L. Caster

    Flavor of the year. 2015 that is.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Agreed. Trump will flake out in a matter of weeks. We need somebody with stamina to keep John Ellis Bush Bush looking like a loser. Election’s a year+ away.

      • TampaDink

        I remained convinced that no one will create less interests in Jebya’s aspirations than his Mexican wife. The GOP/Tea people are steeped in racism & they’ve been bent out of shape over a brown first lady, they’re not likely to rally around another one….who speaks broken Spanglish.

      • clay

        I broadly agree, but believe Trump will make it a matter of months, rather than weeks– I don’t know if he’ll put up with Iowans caucusing or South Carolinians voting on his ego.

  • bambinoitaliano

    I can’t shake this song out of my head.
    https://youtu.be/Pl3YXl_m0uk

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Had the Dumbo soundtrack album as a child. This was my favorite track.

  • Hue-Man

    I watched The Bomb on PBS this weekend. It was terrifying enough until I realized this morning that Trump could be in charge of fumbling the “football”!

    • Chucktech

      He’d only set off the football if there was financial gain for him.

      Oh, SHIT!!!

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    Would a Trump presidency really be that much worse than a Jebya, Walker, Rafi, Huckster, etc., etc., presidency? None of them are any better or any worse than the others.

    • Chucktech

      Unlike Moron Bush, Trump isn’t stupid.

      • Is tRump in the Koch’s pocket?

        • Chucktech

          Trump’s pockets are probably deep enough that he can tell the Koch brothers to fuck off.

          • coram nobis

            Indeed, and that may be part of his success: it’s his money, however ill-gained, and not rich, half-hidden contributors so much.

    • GreatLakeSailor

      Trump is every bit a mainstream 2010’s Republican; he just dropped the Frank Luntz, RNC-standard-issue Dog Whistle.

      So, no. No worse.

    • Jack

      We’d be either be at war or the subject of multiple boycotts within a week.

      I can so easily see him pounding his shoe on a desk.

  • Chris Larosa

    The real irony here is that if you look at the latest polls of just Hillary against 1 Republican contender, who does the worst, by far, against Hillary? Trump. Even Sanders kills him in a head-to-head runoff. No doubt Donny won’t win the GOP nomination, but his predicted 3rd party run will send Hill straight to the House by a landslide. There’s polls for that, too.

  • TampaDink

    It amazes me that Huck can draw more than 1% in any poll.

    • clay

      He’s running to be this year’s Santorum.

      • coram nobis

        Santorum often makes for a slippery slope.

      • TampaDink

        Santorum is always especially runny….and since Huck is so slimy with the algae of xtian love.

  • Jack

    They’re flipping crazy. But I guess we’ve had presidents with no class before.

    Who’d be his First Lady?

    • J Ascher

      Ivana know that too!

    • billbear1961

      Not on a scale with Trump, we haven’t, Jack.

      I wonder how long it will be before women who’ve been in his Miss America pageants will come forward with charges that he sexually harassed them.

      Then, again, he’s so wealthy he could probably, with big bribes, convince most women to keep quiet (depending on what he actually may have done).

      (And, of course, there’s the possibility he has NEVER harassed anyone.)

    • John

      “But I guess we’ve had presidents with no class before.”

      Yeah, I agree with this, although with Trump you also have something else.

      This man has made profits off of business projects that he has bankrupted. He has also flip flopped to a greater degree than just about any politician I have ever seen:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IFobhsXPd0

      With the other Repubs, you would at least get a standard guy who’s influence is bought and spread among multiple donors. With Trump, you have one billionaire in direct control. I would greatly prefer Jeb over Trump any day.

      That being said… I #FeelTheBern

  • billbear1961
  • Bob M

    I listened to an interview on the “Trump ” issue recently. The person being interviewed raised an excellent point, just how big a sample are the polls based on.? He pointed out that one at that time was only based on 300 samples. THREE HUNDRED! The point was how can you call a poll with such low standards something of value. The interviewee also pointed out that the media was not doing their job and only reporting the attention getting things and not digging into the substance of the candidates.

    • clay

      All of those scrambling for the last Fox podiums are polling within a margin of error of zero percent. The YouGov polls are using particularly good stratification to try to insure that their hundreds are truly representative of the GOP voters.

  • Michael Hampton

    The GOP’s bloated, fart-filled, orange, name-calling, hate-filled chicken has come home to roost. While declaring bankruptcy.

  • PiperPine

    Remember when everyone said Guilliani was going to get the nomination in 2007 around this time? Or Herman Caine in 2011? These stretched calendars are weird as no one has voted and no one will vote for several months. That said Trump will have a dramatic impact on the debates this week and will most likely cause several candidates to drop out due to lack of funds.

    My personal theory is that Governor Walker is one to watch. I don’t agree with him on policy issues, at all, but I believe he is a canny politician and a lot of people underestimate him too much. Bush isn’t doing much better and I’d argue Bush is a weaker candidate for channeling the different factions of the GOP.

    • billbear1961

      The gangster and Koch puppet from Wisconsin is a worry.

      • PiperPine

        I freely admit I could be very wrong. Walker might not have the skill to create a national campaign team or the charisma for a national stage. He might in fact fizzle.

        At the same time he’s the candidate that as a prounion leftist I worry the most about as like George W. Bush he’s highly adept at hiding an aggressively rightwing agenda under folksy charm.

        I’m likely wrong about his chances. I mean in 2008 I honestly thought Bill Richardson would make serious headway and supported him (yes I’m now fully aware of his retrograde LGBT stance) so I’m clearly a silly person.

  • PiperPine

    As i think several comedians have said: Trump is America’s answer to

    Silvio Berlusconi

  • All I can do is Lewis Black’s crazy laugh. Ah hahahahaha! This is what America is all about. You get a show, some fireworks, and then you can vote for the person who annoys you least.

    Hillary really should send this asshole some steaks, gold plated, of course.

  • GreatLakeSailor

    Over at Talking Points Memo: Poll Shows Majority Of GOP Now Sees Trump Favorably
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/monmoth-poll-gop-trump-favorability

  • sword

    Trump is already measuring the White House for his newest TRUMP sign. Just how much gold leaf will it take to cover the front portico?

    • David

      Perhaps it will be called the “Executive Mansion” once again since he is such an executive…..

  • David

    Honestly, I don’t think this statistic is saying very much in Trump’s favor, considering who he is 2:1 over, do you? Really? The latter is an idiot, an imbecile, a member extraordinaire of the Douche family. Representing his family extremely well, I might add.

    • Jared Prince

      How many furlongs is that and what is the distance of this horse race?

      • David

        I cannot tell from here because all I am able to see are the asses of the horses, if you catch my drift…..

        • Jared Prince

          As far as a drift in a particular direction, to get to nowhere, just follow any republican in the race. If he who wins the nomination also gets elected, it’s where we will be led as well, and probably faster than ever before.

          • David

            Truer words were never uttered. “A sadder man but wiser now I sing these words to you…”

          • Jared Prince

            It would have been truer if I had said nowhere good instead of nowhere.

      • Bueno Devine Burquez

        I simply found your most recent post, sorry if I’ intruding. I simply thought more discussion was needed for my comment.

        Here it is again:

        We can take a look at a particular moral system, for instance your personal moral or ethical system.
        Let’s begin with: do you believe it is wrong to kill another human being? If so, why? If no, why? If you see
        some occasion when it is necessary, why?
        I’m getting this thesis, which I personally agree with, from an old Law Theory article by Arthur Allen Leff, called “Unspeakable Ethics. He basically argues that the underpinning of any moral system comes down essentially to the question “Sez Who?” to which the Deists can answer “God says so,” but the atheist essentially has no other response but “well us humans say so.” I think it is a powerful argument and if we get back to my question about the morality of murder, we can investigate it with a specific example.