OREGON: Alleged Victim In Terry Bean Case Vanishes, Trial May Not Proceed

Oregon Live reports:

The prosecutor handling the sex crimes case against Terry Bean, a prominent gay activist, told a judge Friday that his investigators have been unable to find the alleged victim in the case. Without the teenager’s testimony, the case will have to be dismissed or the trial rescheduled, the prosecutor acknowledged. The boy, now 17, doesn’t want to testify at the trial, his attorney said at an earlier hearing. Meanwhile, the search for the boy goes on. “We continue to put all available resources toward that issue,” prosecutor Scott Healy said after a hearing before Lane County Circuit Judge Jay McAlpin. Bean, 66, and his former boyfriend, Kiah Loy Lawson, 25, are accused of having sex with the then-15-year-old boy at a Eugene hotel in 2013. They each are charged with two counts of third-degree sodomy, a felony, and third-degree sexual abuse, a misdemeanor. They pleaded not guilty to the charges.

Bean, a co-founder of the Human Rights Campaign, allegedly met the teen on Grindr. Last month Judge McAplin rejected Bean’s attempt to settle the case with a payment to the alleged victim. The amount of the settlement offer was not disclosed. After Friday’s development, the lead prosecutor in the case said he might request a continuance, but the judge smacked him down, saying that in his court “we set dates and we expect them to be met.” The trial is scheduled to begin next week.

  • John P.

    Shouldn’t the case be dropped if the boy doesn’t want to follow through? Am I missing something?

    • Gustav2

      I would guess the judge has some discretion when dealing with a minor.

      • BobSF_94117

        The prosecutor is the one with most of the discretion. Which he, apparently, is unwilling to use.

    • tristram

      It’s a criminal case, not a civil lawsuit. The prosecutor believes that a crime has been committed, and his role is to protect the community, not just avenge the victim. He still needs evidence to get a conviction; so losing the key witness will make things difficult. But he might want to go forward with the case to get what evidence he has on the record.

      • lattebud

        Or drop charges a, hope they find the boy, and bring it to trial before the statute of limitations expires. Taking it to trial without solid evidence is a waste of time (not appreciated by the judge or tax payers) and a “not guilty” decision would allow Mr. Bean to walk away from this with no chance of another trial.

        • Mark_in_MN

          But if they drop the charges can they actually charge again for the same crime?

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Not sure that they have to do one or the other at this time. They can simply do nothing and resurrect the case, if / when either more evidence or the boy presents himself.
            Unless it is OOS, of course.

          • TerryInIowa

            You can not be TRIED for the same offense twice. If they do not try him, then they can try him later, as long as the statute of limitations doesn’t run out.

          • The cutoff point is when the jury has been empaneled and sworn.

          • McSwagg

            If they drop charges for lack of evidence and that evidence later becomes available, they can refile charges as long as the statute of limitations has not run out.

            If they proceed with insufficient evidence and he is found not guilty or the case is dismissed ‘with prejudice’, then he cannot be charged again as that would be ‘double jeopardy’.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        And, if there’s a statement of facts from the boy at the time of the investigation, it can be admissible in court without his being present.

        (~rule 804, sec b, § 3(b)~Hearsay exceptions, declarant unavailable)

        • K_J_Pall

          It is unlikely to be admitted because the accused has a near absolute right to confront his accuser, meaning that unless Bean’s lawyers had a chance to cross examine the boy previously, his prior statement are inadmissible hearsay. http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/40.465

          That said, from what i understand there is video, so that point may well be moot.

  • Arkansan

    Did anyone check on Grindr for him?

  • Capritaur

    Why is sodomy a felony and sexual abuse a misdemeanor?

    • Shy Guy

      Because Jeebus, of course.

    • billbear1961

      I’m really surprised–and mystified–that sexual ABUSE would EVER be classified as a misdemeanor, like a parking violation.

      Maybe if it’s confined to the unwanted pinching of someone’s ass?

      Otherwise, I don’t even BEGIN to understand the classification.

      • Blake Jordan

        Because straight men do not really believe women have the right to say no…

      • McSwagg

        Sexual abuse is probably defined in the statute as inappropriate touching or groping. States are free to define terms as they wish and there may not be any commonality of terms from one state to the next.

  • Paula

    Terry may have dodged a bullet. If that happens, he needs to STFU, disappear and be cautious of where he he wiggles his dagger.

    • Rocco Gibraltar

      No, I disagree. He should be honest with law enforcement if he did something illegal, go to jail.

      • billbear1961

        Rocco, you aren’t going to find many criminals who will admit to their crimes and say “send me to jail.”

        Come on!

        It’s up to the criminal justice system to PROVE their guilt. [edited]

        No one is obliged to incriminate himself. The 5th Amendment sees to that. [edited]

        EDIT: If there isn’t sufficient evidence to convict, the slimy rat (mind you, I’m assuming he’s guilty) better confine his sexual encounters to guys of LEGAL age from now on, because, as Paula says, he has truly dodged a bullet this time.

      • Schlukitz

        In a Utopian world perhaps, but this is the real world.

    • Rocco Gibraltar

      Are you serious, Paula?

      • Paula

        I’m only saying if the case does go away due to the minor not testifying. I think he needs to spend time in jail.

  • Rocco Gibraltar

    Gays can be as nasty as straights.

    • bambinoitaliano

      64 year old after a 15 year old? There’s nothing gay about it.

      • RoFaWh

        Hard to say. Not very long ago, an ad appeared in the local Craigslist m4m category purporting to be from an 18 year old. I responded, not because he was 18, but because it sounded like his sexual interests meshed with mine. (I prefer my perves to be considerably older and riper, if not outright rotten to the core.)

        But when I said in an email that the first thing I’d do was verify his age, I never heard from him again.

        I’ve since wondered if it was a police sting or some blackmailer that posted the “ad”. Or maybe at his age he simply has no documentary proof of his age. Or, mirabile dictu, maybe he was simply a horny underager. Whatever, in retrospect I decided “never again”.

        That decision is, btw, broadly applicable to Criaigslist hookup ads. They are in my experience a complete waste of time and anybody contemplating trying them out should go somewhere else, unless they want to be afflicted with perpetual virgin wannabes in great numbers. If you must, then put in your ad “please don’t reply if you are merely “interested” or “curious”.

        • Jackson

          You think you’ll find happiness hooking up with strangers who advertise for sex. Pathetic. Grow up and try having sexual relations within the context of a relationship. Maybe you’ll live a little longer.

          • SFHarry

            I haven’t tried Craigslist but have had friends who have had a very good time hooking up on it. People meet their needs in many different ways. Your nasty judgmental tone about internet hook ups was a real downer to the end of my night. I really hope you are just a troll working the night shift.

          • RoFaWh

            You have made an astonishing number of false assumptions in remarkably few words.

            I’ll leave it at that rather than disfigure the comments with a cat fight.

          • lymis

            Jackson:
            I married a man that I met via an internet hookup with someone who advertised for sex, responding to my profile on a hookup site where I made it clear I was looking for sex.

            We were both over 40, so the age thing wasn’t an issue, but it worked for us. We’re coming up on 12 years together.

            People have sex, you know. People form relationships based on mutual sexual compatibility. Our relationship grew out of, among a lot of other things, that shared sexual interest.

            “Grow up?”

            Have you no mirrors?

    • Schlukitz

      Always so quick to throw our brothers and sisters under the bus.

      Heterosexuals 64 years old never go after 15 year olds?

      C’mon now.

  • jinkiesshaggy

    Sounds like the kid accepted the payout without the judges approval. I hope he puts it to good use for his future.

    • Rod Steely

      That’s exactly what I thought. They paid off the kid and he agreed to hide out for a while.

      • KT

        Yeah, that’s what I think too. Money can be a powerful thing, especially to a 17-year old.

        • SFHarry

          If the kid was doing meth in the hotel room and is an addict then money will be an even stronger motivator. If true, then the kid is sadly being victimized again.

  • That Guy

    I hope the kid is ok and he’s neither committed suicide due to the stress nor fallen victim to foul play.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      My guess is that he’s off on an adventure in another state or country. Likely on Terry’s dime.

      The young man didn’t want to testify. Maybe cuz he enjoyed himself. Maybe because he doesn’t want to be known to have fucked either Terry or his ex. Maybe the meth angle he doesn’t want attached to his name. Or for that matter, maybe he doesn’t want to be labeled a victim.

      • tristram

        I thought the meth head was the pimp, Lawson.

        • RaygunsGoZap

          Yes. But you don’t wind up in a motel room with one meth head.

      • Rocco Gibraltar

        Ok, Ray so he deserved to be fucked. Got it. The fact he was a minor is immaterial.

        • zhera

          That’s not what he said.

        • leo77

          This is not a story about a 12 year old who was pinned down, gagged and force ably penetrated.

          This is about a 15 year old who went to a hotel room willingly and knowingly and who has since expressed an unwillingness to collaborate with the prosecution.

          While I respect the need for age of consent laws and while I do find Bean’s behavior sleazy I also believe that a 15 year old can have some agency over his own actions and decisions regarding his own body.

          I’m someone who very briefly dated a guy who lied about his age. I had met the guy in an East Village bar and reasonably assumed he was at least 21—he told me he had just graduated from Princeton. I had my suspicions and on our second or third date I inquired more about his background and he eventually admitted to me that he was in fact a graduate of Princeton—HIGH SCHOOL. He was 17 and technically, barely legal, but I wasn’t comfortable with the game he was playing. So that ended things, but by this point we had already spent a night wrecking the sheets. Was my behavior criminal? I certainly don’t think so. And he certainly seemed to be enjoying himself.

          • non

            Get over your guilt. You know that your behavior was lawful. Why the fuck would you conflate your story to try to create sympathy for Bean, who, if the allegations are true is an outright predator?

            You either are really fucked in the head or have no familiarity with the allegations against Bean to be comparing yourself to him.

          • leo77

            Egads.

            I don’t feel guilty about anything.

            But you need to bear in mind the only reason “my behavior was lawful” is due to the fact that a group of politicians in NY drew a rather arbitrary line at the age of 17. If I lived in Oregon where the line is drawn at 18 I could’ve found myself in similar trouble to Bean.

            If I had crossed paths with my precocious young friend 12 months earlier I could have been subject to life-wrecking prosecution in NY. And the fact that the guy lied wouldn’t have made any difference to the courts or a zealous prosecutor. Interestingly enough, across the river in NJ that draws the line at 16 the same conduct would’ve been perfectly lawful. West bank of the Hudson consensual fun, East side of the Hudson rape.

            Bean may well be a predatory POS, but that doesn’t mean it should be verboten to ask some difficult questions about how we treat these sorts of cases and the crazy quilt of consent laws we have in this country.

          • d.

            Age of consent in New York is 17 so this wasn’t technically legal, it was entirely legal.

        • RaygunsGoZap

          If that’s your opinion, cool. That’s not mine or even close to anything that I typed when I was theorizing various possibilities for where he is – other than dead or kidnapped – or why he might not want to participate in a trial.

          I was raped repeatedly at that age, had it all made public by CPS and the cops, was told I got what I deserved – because fag – by my folks, harassed and terrorized at home, school and work for 3 years by blood-thirsty cowards.

          I have a problem with Tyga dating motherfucking Kylie, Rocco. So I definitely have a problem with adults having sex with minors full stop.

          I’ve worked with LGBTQ youth – professionally or as a volunteer – for the past 21 years. Long enough to know that very few people actually give a fuck about young people. I had read all the comments – including yours – before I posted. I picked up that you have a very strong sense of their being laws broken and punishment needed. I did not get the sense that you thought deeply about the child involved here. That remains my opinion.

          I recognize you as a true JMGer and despite your snappish reply and this, we should have no quarrell. So, bygones and good day.

          • Ogre Magi

            Wow, that is a horrible story, could you or your family take any legal action against those people?

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Thanks for that. It was 30 years ago. My family and I haven’t spoken for most of that time as they are complete monsters.

            Someone recently: Oh, is your mother dead?
            Me: Not unless someone removed the head, burned the heart and buried the rest at a crossroads. But, I hope so.

        • Schlukitz

          It’s exceedingly disingenuous to put words in other people’s mouths.

          You owe Ray an apology.

  • JT

    third-degree sodomy

    Why are there still “sodomy” laws in Oregon?

    • lattebud

      They are for those that are underage. The degree of the crime depends on the victims crime.

      Learned that on David Lesh’s (“Oregon Sodomy Defense”) web page.

      http://www.oregoncrimes.com/oregon_sodomy_laws__ors_163385.html

      • JT

        Yes, but why “sodomy” as opposed to sexual acts with a minor? I saw that it’s classified as deviant (the sexual act itself). By whose fucking definition, the christofascists?

        It seems it’s a law from 1971 still on the books. So that’s the classification that was used against same sex adults prior to Lawrence v Texas.

      • BearEyes

        why not something like statutory rape (sex with a minor)?

        • billbear1961

          Exactly, for that is what it WAS.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Every time I read about this Terry Bean fellow, I have to take a shower to cleanse myself…….yes, I find him that disgusting.

    I hope the boy is ok but I also feel Bean needs a time out, preferably while wearing a bright orange jumpsuit.

    • StraightGrandmother

      I think it is very creepy and ucky.
      60 year old men should not be having sex with 15 year olds, girls or boys.
      Even if the “companion” was willing. It’s just creepy, makes my skin crawl.

      • Schlukitz

        Please understand that I’m not trying to lessen your comment. You are absolutely correct. 60 year old men should not be having sex with 15 year olds. It’s against the law in all states of the Union.

        However, I would like to point out that the one of the biggest arguments against gay sex, even when it is entirely legal, that our enemies have used against us in the relentless fight against LBGT people obtaining the right to marry someone of the same sex, is that “It’s just creepy and ucky makes my skin crawl.”

        Comments of that nature have too much emotional baggage attached to them and should never be the basis upon which laws are legislated.

        Christians feel that any sex outside of that which occurs within a church regulated marriage is a sin. Were this a theocracy, there are many Christians who would all too gleefully start passing laws against anyone having sex outside of their approved marriages, based purely on their “feelings” alone and which would be a violation of our constitutional rights.

        • StraightGrandmother

          I agree with you, yucky & makes my skin crawl can never be a basis for making a law against something. There has to be harm as a basis in law. That being said, yucky & makes my skin crawl is still me reaction to the sory. And it would be the same if it was a 15 year old girl, who he was trying to pay off so as not to face criminal charges.

          The Judge is right, if you could pay off your victims to get out from under a criminal child abuse case, if you are a person with enough money that leaves you free from penalty, free to offend again.

          Thus far the accused has not been found guilty and I recognize that, but even the allegations are yucky & make my skin crawl. He must have done something or else why was he paying off the boy?

          • Schlukitz

            I can easily understand your reaction on a personal level. I have no doubt that many people feel that way. And yes. It would be the same if it was a 15 year old girl, who he was trying to pay off so as not to face criminal charges.

            There is no doubt in my mind that Terry Bean is as guilty as sin, as the old proverbial adage goes. In theory, money should never be the basis upon which justice is meted out. Sadly, however, in the real world, that is often how it is. 🙁

        • Ginger Snap

          I am not condoning 60 with 15 sex, When I was 15 I was having sex with 45+ year old men and I knew 100% what I was doing and would not have shown up in court either. Some of us really were adults at 15 and some are children at 40. My two cents rip me to shreds if you want.

          • Schlukitz

            Having left home at the age of 14, my experience was exactly the same as yours. At the age of 15, going on 16, I was in my first long-term relationship with someone five years my senior. We remaind together for some six years before I left him due to his many infidelities which became more than I could deal with being as naive as I was.

            That said, I would never have lifted a finger to hurt this man who was gentle, caring and kind. I learned a lot from him. Had I been a little older, wiser and more experienced in the ways of life, I perhaps would have learned to overlook his failings and remained with him. Who knows?

            I have made this fact know previously online and have been called a pedophile because of it. How my having a sexual relationship with a man older than me made me a pedophile, I will never figure out. In fact, I have been accused of being a pedophile on this very thread. There you have it. LOL

            So no. I will not be the one to rip you to shreds. I am happy for you that you got to enjoy your youth and celebrate your sexuality.

          • William

            Same here. At 16 (just), I was seeing a nice 35 year old man. Poor fellow freaked when he first found out I was still in high school, then flipped when I told him my age. Up until that point, we were at it like rabbits.

          • Mark

            No…I’m going to stand with you. I was the one who made my way to that ‘secret’ area down by the beaches, and I am the one who made my picks. No coercion. No unwillingness. I was there to experience this whole new world of sex. Just the pure physical aspects of sex. Just barely 15.

            My crank was fully functional by 12 or 13 – and I wasn’t about to just let it idly watch the world pass by.

          • Schlukitz

            My “secret” area when I first arrived in New York, was the Empire theatre on 42nd Street, later followed by Central Park West and the area around the Soldiers and Sailors Monument on Riverside Park.

            All of this was before I met my first long term lover and, like you, I made my picks with no coercion and no unwillingness.

            Like you, my crank handle was fully functional and in need of someome to give it a spin. 😛

            I am often bemused by the fact that Christian America believes that folks under the age of 18 do not have any sexual urges and that they can just “choose” to be celibate until the magical age of 18 when you then fuck anything that will stand still long enough to allow you to. LOL

          • Mark

            I hear most xtian pregnancies occur at 18 years, 7 seconds. Not even a good rodeo romp.

          • Schlukitz

            LOL

      • Hip Byroads

        I’m a man of sixty-one years and the idea of having sex with a straight grandmother makes my skin crawl.

  • TJay229

    Ehh.. He’s a pedophile, bullet dodge or not. He wasn’t famous, he wasn’t a world wide brand… His attempt to buy the silence of the victims, spoke volumes.

    • lattebud

      In Oregon, a judge can deny or accept a civil judgment and have the criminal charges dropped. But, the judge said he knew of no other child sex abuse case settled with a civil settlement.

      http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/07/judge_denies_gay_activist_terr.html

      • TJay229

        You said that to say… What?

        • lattebud

          Like it or not, the State of Oregon allows the criminally charged to come to a financial agreement with the victim to dodge a criminal charge. Since the charge(s) are dismissed, even someone who may not be guilty of all he is charged with may offer a financial settlement to avoid any criminal charges and the cost of a trial. It is part of an aggressive defense to avoid a felony conviction. So, him making a payment to the young man is not the same as pleading guilty or being convicted.

          • TJay229

            It’s HIDING his guilt, but believe what you will.. Just as the rest of most people who hear his name… Pedophile

    • BobSF_94117

      He’s not a pedophile. Pedophiles seek out sex with prepubescent children.

      • Schlukitz

        Thank you for making that clarification.

        As billbear so rightly stated in an earlier post, “It matters what we call things, how we label a crime.”

      • TJay229

        He’s had sex with a 15 yr old… What is that, moron?

        • BobSF_94117

          Perhaps before you go calling people morons, you should look up a few words in the dictionary.

          • TJay229

            Maybe you need to understand what the law is or maybe you’re a card carrying member of NAMBLA hoping that the law will be changed so you too can sleep with a 15yr old CHILD when you’re in your 60’s

            Pedophile Apologist /Statutory Rape Apologist

          • Schlukitz

            “child

            n. 1) a person’s natural offspring. 2) a person 14 years and under. A “child” should be distinguished from a “minor” who is anyone under 18 in almost all states.”

            http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/child

          • TJay229

            The pic describes exactly how, I feel about you & your opinions, henceforth.

          • Schlukitz

            Obviously there is no reasoning with you.

            You don’t want to be confused by the facts because you have already made up your mind.

            Feel free to take your next gratuitious verbal slap. I won’t waste my time or my energies by replying further to you.

            You’re not worth it.

          • TJay229
          • Ogre Magi

            LOL, where is that pic from

          • BobSF_94117

            Well, if you never got beyond Websters, I can’t help you.

          • Schlukitz

            He doesn’t seem to be able to understand wikipedia words very well either. LOL

          • TJay229
          • BobSF_94117

            It never ceases to amaze me that some gay men will leap to the very same accusations used to keep us all down for centuries. It’s a bit like Jews accusing other Jews of eating babies.

          • Schlukitz

            Or assisting them into the gas chambers. 🙁

            TJay is a good example of “We have met the enemy…and he is us.”

          • BobSF_94117

            No, he’s just having a tantrum or something. Hardly rises (falls?) to the level of a capo.

          • Joe knows who I am.

            Wait, you mean they don’t eat babies? 🙂

          • TJay229

            Uh huh… Ok.

            Pedophile Apologist / Statutory Rape Apologist

          • Schlukitz

            “Pedophilia may be distinguished from hebephilia (sexual preference for individuals who typically are between ages 11 and 14) and ephebophilia (sexual preference for late-stage adolescents, typically ages 15 and 16).”

            http://www.britannica.com/topic/pedophilia

          • TJay229

            Ok… I thought YOU said last night you weren’t gonna say anything else to me… Why can’t your ignorant ass keep your word?

          • TJay229

            Ok… I thought YOU said last night you weren’t gonna say anything else to me… Why can’t your worthless pasty white ass keep your word, you pathetic saltine.

          • Schlukitz

            “Pedophilia may be distinguished from hebephilia (sexual preference for individuals who typically are between ages 11 and 14) and ephebophilia (sexual preference for late-stage adolescents, typically ages 15 and 16).”

            http://www.britannica.com/topic/pedophilia

          • TJay229

            Ok… I thought YOU said last night you weren’t gonna say anything else to me… Why can’t your dumb ass keep your word?

        • Schlukitz

          Bob gave you a respectul, accurate answer sans any personal attack.

          “Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.”

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

          Calling him a “moron” for stating easily verifiable legal facts is totally over the top. In the future, you might want to do a little more research before going off on someone in such a reprehensible manner.

          • TJay229

            Last time I checked, my dad’s name nor mom’s name were neither “Bob” or “Schlukitz”. That being said, you wanna tell someone what to do, You adopt a child, then tell IT what to fu*k*ng to do. Maybe they will give a damn what the f*+k your opinion is… Moron(s)

            I regret nothing I said, will say concerning this disgusting PEDOPHILE.

            Now, jerk off to that you Pedophile Apologist / Statutory Rape Apologist

          • Schlukitz

            I expected nothing less as a reply.

            With that arrogant and verbally abusive attitude, I guess you were probably not voted the most popular guy in high school either.

            Such a pity that your parents didn’t instill a little more respect for others in you.

            “Pedophile apologist”?

            Guess English 101 was not your best subject either.

          • TJay229
          • Schlukitz

            “Pedophilia may be distinguished from hebephilia (sexual preference for individuals who typically are between ages 11 and 14) and ephebophilia (sexual preference for late-stage adolescents, typically ages 15 and 16).”

            http://www.britannica.com/topic/pedophilia

          • mikael

            following this thread but curious why do you think someone came up with the age of 11 for pedophilia? i always assumed it was just sex with a minor.

          • Schlukitz

            Obviously, you “assumed” wrong. And you do know the old expression about assuming, don’t you? LOL

            I didn’t “think” it. I looked it up. And if Wikipedia is not your cup of tea, then perhaps the Encyclopedia Britanica is the more definitive source of of reference. And as another commentator said on this thread, it is important how we define a crime, from a legal point of view.

            “Pedophilia may be distinguished from hebephilia (sexual preference for individuals who typically are between ages 11 and 14) and ephebophilia (sexual preference for late-stage adolescents, typically ages 15 and 16).

            If you are still not satisfied with the accurate definition of having sex with a 15 year old is called (hebophilia) then I would suggest that you take it up with both Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Britanica.

            I didn’t write the books. They did. 🙂

          • mikael

            whoa!!!! what’s with the attitude? Ending your post with a smiley face doesn’t really do anything for your condescending answer. I was curious, that was it , please don’t reply as you most likely cannot be nice.

          • Schlukitz

            A reply is called for, if only to make my sincere apologies.

            Following all of the attitudinal dumb posts and name-calling that TJay made, I thought that your reply was a follow-up to his.

            You clarified that for me and I thank you for setting me straight.

          • mikael

            thank you for the apology

        • Schlukitz

          “Pedophilia may be distinguished from hebephilia (sexual preference for individuals who typically are between ages 11 and 14) and ephebophilia (sexual preference for late-stage adolescents, typically ages 15 and 16).”

          http://www.britannica.com/topic/pedophilia

          • TJay229

            Ok… I thought YOU said last night you weren’t gonna say anything else to me… Why can’t your stupid ass keep your word?

    • Schlukitz

      “Pedophilia may be distinguished from hebephilia (sexual preference for individuals who typically are between ages 11 and 14) and ephebophilia (sexual preference for late-stage adolescents, typically ages 15 and 16).”

      http://www.britannica.com/topic/pedophilia

  • LonelyLiberal

    I hope the young fellow is OK…but I come from a state where people occasionally “disappear” or “have terrible car accidents” when challenging government. See Sandusky.

  • bambinoitaliano

    I smell pay off.

    • billbear1961

      Not surprisng since the boy does want money, apparently, and does NOT want to testify.

  • billbear1961

    Tell me, is there such a crime as third-degree coitus?

    Didn’t fucking think so!

    Anal sex (which is what I assume they mean by “sodomy”) like coitus is illegal only if forced against a victim’s will or engaged in with a minor (with or without the minor’s consent).

    It’s AD 2015–update the goddamned codes.

    And stop calling this pederast a co-founder of the HRC, which makes it sound like he was one of two founders, rather than one of DOZENS.

    By the way, is there a term for men who like to fuck underage teenage girls?

    I mean something other than filthy PIG (and rapist)?

    • tcinsf

      Well, it’s probably called 3rd degree rape, and because rape requires a penis and a vagina (seriously – the statutes are very specific) they had to have a separate statute for forcible or underaged sexual activity not consisting of a penis inserted into a vagina. I wouldn’t get upset about use of the word sodomy.

      • billbear1961

        I wouldn’t get upset if the crime were called forced sodomy or sodomy (or coitus or any other sexual activity) with a minor (who can’t give his or her legal consent).

        But all by itself without a qualifier, the implication is that sodomy itself is illegal and a crime.

        And that’s absurd: in and of itself, sodomy is no more a crime than coital intercourse.

        That’s the point I was trying to make in my first post, tcinsf.

        It matters what we call things, how we label a crime.

      • Randolph Finder

        Not in Oregon. Oregon’s rape laws are fairly non-gendered…

  • dcurlee

    As much as I appreciate his help founding HRC. Even with all that his actions has tarnished that. Pretty disgusting to go after a child

  • This judge seems quite irritated with the proceedings so far. I’m guessing this isn’t the first deadline that’s been missed.

  • JT

    The funny things you uncover on the web. There is a wingnut named Onan Coca. Onan? A wingnut named after what christofascists think is a deviant act. If only there were one more c in that last name

  • justmeeeee

    Did he disappear with both hands full of cash?

  • Gerry Fisher

    Ya know, if you like ’em young, make the cut off line “22” or “25,” so, when they lie, they’re probably of consenting age. It’s not worth it to make yourself vulnerable to this kind of circus.

    I was always a daddy chaser. Now I is one. 😉

  • McShane

    I’m in Eugene. There are a lot theories swirling around town about the victim. The one thing that keeps popping up is that the victim was already pretty well know in certain circles. Basically I’ve heard that the victim was getting passed around and was already pretty spun out before Lawson and Bean got their hands on him. But that’s all , I heard it from so and so who heard it from some dude. I am NOT defending Bean or Lawson, or blaming the victim. Just what I’ve heard around town.

    Personally I think the kid got a check and is laying low.

  • Robert Rhea

    Whether the charges are true or not – I have no idea and take no position – I can just hear the far right funds chiming up that Bog Gay did away with the kid.

  • royinhell

    As I get older (I’m 52) I find it more and more difficult to guess people’s ages… recently I was messaged on a hookup site by a guy who said he was 18 but to me his pics looked younger. I usually prefer experience to youth, but I liked his profile and thought I’d give him a go… but because of stories like these I told him that I would need to check his ID before anything happened.
    Never heard from him again. Seems like I either offended him, or dodged an entrapment bullet.

  • Ginger Snap

    As the GoGo’s once sang, My Lips are Sealed on this. Terry Bean can be called a creep, rapist, drug addict, wealthy shit bag. The young boy can be called a slut, drug addict, underage, abused, thrill seeker and smart. We will never know anything about really happened that night because the smart underage boy wants it that way just like I did at 15.So my lips really weren’t sealed. Rape is wrong but sometimes it’s not rape just because someone says it is.

    • Schlukitz

      You can’t rape the willing. ;-P

  • K_J_Pall

    How very convenient for Bean.
    This whole sleazy affair is a veritable shitshow, starting with the fucked up relationship with Lawson, continuing on to surreptitiously taping their mutual hookups, dueling accusations of blackmail and now statutory rape.
    A 15 year old cannot provide legal consent. That’s the beginning and hen the end of it, and that’s why statutory rape does not require specific intent. The teenager has either been paid off and disappeared, or has been disappeared. Either option is disturbing, and I sincerely hope it’s not the latter.

  • crankyd

    He gives me the creeps.

  • RLK2

    Terry Bean is an embarrassment. We do not need his presence in the LGBT community.

  • Ogre Magi

    So what do you all think could have happened?