John Oliver On DC Statehood

With a lovely song at the end.

  • bkmn

    Of course the GOP is against full statehood for DC because 1) those people live there, 2) states rights are important but not for DC, 3) they love small government except for DC (which is why they want the right to counter any action the DC government might want to take).

    • TommyTune

      You left out the fact that there are a significant percentage of African-Americans living within the District. Yet another reason for Republicans to try to suppress their vote.

      • Sk3ptic

        I suspect this is the true reason.

        • bambinoitaliano

          Suspect? Without a doubt! The rethuglicans manage to gerrymander a state off the map of US.

          • Sk3ptic

            Yes–it’s my white-bread tendency to understate surfacing!

          • bambinoitaliano

            Sorry, when it comes to responding to the rethuglicans, one has to amplify like Donald Trump 🙂

      • Rocco Gibraltar

        Tommy, I think that is exactly what he meant when he said “those people”.

        • Circle Thomas

          Interestingly, DC is no longer majority Black. While the Black population still has a plurality, there’s a question of how long that will continue as well.

          Of course, DC still is majority Democrat, as is nearly every major city in the country, even places like Salt Lake.

          • THEBEARCUB

            Who is questioning it Whites and why?

  • TommyTune

    If those kids were the ones actually singing that song they did a hell of a good job. Kudos to them and to the songwriter. Brilliant!

  • BobSF_94117

    Eleanor Holmes Norton’s rant would have been quite impressive, had the chamber not been empty. Sad to see, sad to see…

  • sherman
    • bkmn

      Scott Walker, dumb but very dangerous.

    • Estrafalario

      Nice. Has NOTHING to do with this thread, but nice way to fit it in.

      • ScottJL

        Postings not staying on topic? Say it isn’t so!

        • Estrafalario

          It’s just irritating in this case because John Oliver’s bit is one of the SUPER RARE instances of major media attention begin given to DC Voting Rights and the LARGEST voted comment on this thread has NOTHING to do with it.

          • ScottJL

            Please don’t ever go to reddit, your head will explode.

    • olandp

      Scott would have probably posed even after he had seen the check sign, perhaps thinking it was real.

  • Rocco Gibraltar

    Where is our Todd to chime in and give local slant? I suspect he would agree with Oliver.

    • Estrafalario

      I’ve lived in DC for a long while. I wholeheartedly agree.

      • Hip Byroads

        I grew up in DC, and was born there, and I agree as well.

        I remember my parents excited about Kennedy for president but of course nobody in the District could vote for anything and that was at a time when there were actually about 100,000 more residents in the District than there are today, and the District of Columbia was more populous than about 7 states, or maybe more.

        Even our first mayor was appointed by President Nixon, I think.

        • pch1013

          And me. For a long time my parents had a “D.C. – The Last Colony” bumper sticker on their car.

          Incidentally, the District’s population has been on the rebound since its low point in 1990 – it’s up 15% since 2000. Of course a lot of that has to do with the burgeoning lobbyist-industrial complex, so it’s hardly an unmitigated good. Esp. given the effect it’s having on rents and home prices.

          • Hip Byroads

            Oh, the Last Colony. I forgot about that. Indeed it is.

            I have a picture of the street sign in front of National’s Park when I was living over there: Taxation Without Representation Street, SE. I love that for the name of the street (South Capitol) leading up to the Capitol.

            Yes, the population is increasing again. But it still doesn’t feel crowded to me the way it did in the 1950s and 60s.

          • pch1013

            I think it’s great that whenever the president travels overseas, he is driven around in a car whose license plates bear the same message.

          • Hip Byroads

            Never thought about that. That’s hilarious!

  • Ed Burrow

    does anyone know joe’s email address?

    • bkmn

      It is below all the weblog awards pics on the left side of the page.

  • Gustav2

    Won’t have to get “rid” of Florida, it will be under water in 75 years.

    • Hip Byroads

      So may DC be for that matter.

      • Estrafalario

        Nope. Just the “touristy areas” outsiders go to. Back to a swamp with it.
        And the same could be said about New York.

        • Hip Byroads

          The city as a whole wasn’t really built on a swamp, although low-lying parts of it were swampy then. Still are, in a sense, if you factor in the humidity.

          • Estrafalario

            That’s what I said. The Touristy areas. Not the areas people actually live in. Like me! The Lincoln monument, the tidal basin, parts of Georgetown, yeah those are gonna have some flooding. But not the rest of the city.

          • Hip Byroads

            Well even that would be a disaster for the city.

          • DN

            Imagine how much water the Rock Creek watershed would hold in a worst-case scenario.

            With a hurricane bearing down on us at high tide, I think it’d stand to reason that the park would absorbmost of the water, averting catastrophe for most of the city.

  • There is no way DC (and Puerto Rico) are getting statehood — and two Democratic Party Senators each– unless they can figure out a way to offset this with Republican States. I am not sure where the Republican states would come from — unless Texas splits into several states — which I believe is a right they have from way back when they entered the Union.

    • bkmn

      I would pay to see a fight between the Tex’s and the As(s)’es.

      • What’s the difference? Any state that elects Ted Cruz and that butthole Abbott as gubnor is full of a-holes. But saying that there are some VERY hot boys in Texas including my sister’s nephew by marriage who goes to UT, has muscles, and the most gorgeous blue eyes from his Swedish mom. He is super friendly with his aunties younger brother (me) and very sweet (damn that boy drives me nuts in his cowboy hat).

        • MDB

          Exactly. The boys across the NM/TX
          state line at Texas Tech in Lubbock…….dayum…….eye-candy for days, weeks, years even. (It’s probably a good thing I’m not young and single in college these days…..but it’s nice to know that my heart-rate can still be elevated, and my ears turn red from the glance/smile of a sweet, sexy young man.)

        • Octavio

          Does your sister’s nephew know how to install track lighting? 🙂

          • TampaDink

            And is his name Mark, Rick or Steve?

    • Rocco Gibraltar

      It reminds me of pre-civil war history where a slave state would only be added at the same time as a free state.

      • chasmader

        Split Cuba in two and admit them as Republican. It’s not just pre-Civil War, where this happened. Alaska and Hawaii were let in at the same time (some would say that Hawaii was held back until Alaska’s population increased enough).

        • Octavio

          The historical fact regarding Alaska is the US was motivated to make it a state because of the Red Scare. The Aleutian Islands were a BIG issue at the time. There’s still bad blood between Russia and the USA regarding that region of the northern pacific

        • Rocco Gibraltar

          Alaska and Hawaii became states in 1959. What the hell are you talking about?

    • bambinoitaliano

      Texas wants to leave US anyway. Let it. And DC is in. Done!

    • Estrafalario

      Yes. Legally into five units. The closest we got to it was during FDR when it was considered. They thought the Northern section would be the state of Jefferson. And let’s not forget that Texas is a great case of Gerrymandering foisting the will of the people. The urban areas in Texas are ALL BLUE. It’s the rural cut ups and the continued suppression of Latino votes that gives us the Texas we have. IT should be where California is right now — solidly BLUE. But the Democratic party has given up on doing the kind of real investment and is instead just waiting for demographics to overwhelm the GOP. It’s pathetic.

      • Octavio

        And Texas, despite its attempt to Californicate itself, constantly wonders why it is not the cynosure of electronics and software innovation. One of these days my old Texas Instrument calculator is going to quit working. Then it will be, “Hello, Samsung!”

        • Estrafalario

          Actually the Austin area’s done pretty well on tech companies. Of course it’s also the more progressive area in Texas. Again, the cities aren’t the problem, its those large rural and suburban swaths the GOP has finely scalpeled into gerrymandered majorities. Infuriating really. And the level of voter suppression going on is completely misunderstood elsewhere. These are civil rights era shenanigans with a white Christianist minority apartheid system. Most people (as evidenced on this message thread even) don’t get that at all. Those are real lives being destroyed there. And they represent the majority of Texans.

          • Octavio

            Severgy, Inc. is having a banner year. LOL!

    • Octavio

      I agree. Israel has a better chance of becoming the 51st state.

    • Gregory In Seattle

      The Missouri Compromise of the 21st century: any new state that leans strongly Democrat must be matched by a new state that leans strongly Republican.

  • Craig S

    John Oliver: Voice of a generation. That was brilliant.

  • sfprman

    DC should simply be incorporated back into Maryland.

    • Estrafalario

      That’s never gonna happen either. Baltimore doesn’t want the state’s powerbase shifting immediately to DC — which would be the more economically powerful metro area. I live in DC and this idea’s usually brought up and shot down by folks who know the background.

  • Hip Byroads

    Eleanor Holmes Norton was fierce in that clip.

    • Estrafalario

      She’s wonderful. If we had full rights she’d be Senator Holmes Norton.

      • Hip Byroads

        She might. But she’ll be long gone when those rights are finally won.

        • Estrafalario

          Sadly true. I think the court is really the way to go. Can’t see a ratification making it through the needed states. The GOP will not accept a stronghold. Now if the Supreme Court decides it’s unconstitutional somehow — why we need more liberals on the Court — then maybe.

  • olandp

    Why kick out Florida? Texas has said they want to go…

    • leastyebejudged

      Florida has an extremely disturbing history of systemic destruction of black people that borders genocidal.

  • DN

    I’m a proud D.C. resident, and I support D.C. statehood…

    But yeah…. I know that the constitution allows me to move ten miles in any direction and I suddenly get those voting rights back.

    • Hip Byroads

      Depending on where you live, sometimes you can just move across the street, or avenue, as it were, for those voting rights.

      • DN

        Back before they changed the taxi system, my cabfare depended on which side of the street I got off. I lived exactly on one of the borders 🙂

        • Hip Byroads

          All my life I always felt a familiar tingling sensation riding back into town, once inside the Welcome to Washington sign.

          I noticed recently the one on the Rosslyn side now says Welcome to Washington, DC. So as not to confuse people with Washington state, I suppose.

          • pch1013

            I’ve lived in both Washingtons, so I’ve had to provide explanations both ways.

          • Hip Byroads

            Try saying just District of Columbia and see what their reaction is.

          • DN

            A friend of ours just moved from Takoma to Tacoma =D

  • leastyebejudged

    I think using kids this way was ill advised.

  • leastyebejudged

    There are enough people in DC to just walk on over to the capitol and sit down and demand congress give them what they want.

  • PiperPine

    This and his discussion about the Territories was some phenomenal journalism about very under-reported topics. I honestly roll my eyes whenever I talk to Libertarians when I ask about the Territories and the Washington DC because I often either get blank stares or convoluted nonanswers about what should be obviously serious issues if they take their philosophy of personal freedom seriously.

    The other solution I’ve heard bandied about would be to merge the Capitol with Maryland and strip away congressional control of the budget from the city but that’s just as unlikely.

    The song was funny and cute ^.^

  • JRBuckley

    My great grandparents came to the United States via Ellis Island. My mother was born in Washington, D.C. so, technically, she wasn’t an American citizen since she wasn’t born in one of the ‘several states’ as referred to in the constitution. On time, when she was filing her taxes, she claimed herself as a citizen of the Vatican – with diplomatic immunity from taxation. ;-P