ISRAEL: Rallies To Be Held Nationwide In Aftermath Of Jerusalem Pride Stabbings

Via Haaretz:

Rallies to protest Thursday’s stabbing attack at Jerusalem’s Gay Pride parade and the arson attack in which a Palestinian child was killed will be held in major Israeli cities on Saturday night. A rally in Tel Aviv already planned to mark six years since two people were killed in a shooting at Bar Noar, a Tel Aviv gay youth center, will be turned into a protest against violence following Thursday’s stabbings. At 7:30 P.M a Peace Now rally will be held at Tel Aviv’s Rabin Square, and from there the participants will march to Gan Meir, where another rally is scheduled to take place. Opposition leader and Zionist Union head Isaac Herzog is scheduled to speak at the Rabin Square rally, as well as Meretz leader Zehava Galon, Zionist Union MK Amir Peretz, former Shin Bet chief Carmi Gilon and more. The Jerusalem rally will begin at 9:30 P.M. in Zion Square. A protest will also take place at 8:00 P.M. in the northern city of Haifa, and at 8:45 P.M in the southern city of Be’er Sheva.

During yesterday’s arraignment the deranged attacker declared that he does not recognize the authority of Israel’s legal system as he was acting under orders from God.

RELATED: Yesterday the New York Post published an op-ed which denounces the resurgent claims of “pinkwashing” that appeared on social media after Israeli politicians and religious leaders unanimously expressed outrage about the attack. An excerpt:

Their voices arrived this week both loudly and swiftly, often cloaked in the veil of “pink-washing” — the academically vogue assertion that Israel uses its pro-LGBT record to obscure its Gaza blockade and West Bank occupation. Transgender activist Pauline Park declared Thursday on Twitter: “Jerusalem LGBT PrideParade attack by Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Assailant undermines Zionist Pinkwashing Propaganda.” “Will the Zionists continue their pinkwashing campaign?” asked another on Twitter.

Indeed, across the #pinkwashing spectrum, posters insisted that Israel is actually unsafe for its LGBT citizens, that it’s far from a liberal haven and that Netanyahu’s good wishes are merely political showmanship. As with most socio-political-cultural conflicts, the truth is at once far simpler — and more complex. Indeed, much as in other Western democracies, Israel’s open society can cultivate extremists who may act out with violent results. Yet despite their horror, these egregious examples do not render those societies fundamentally violent.

  • People4Humanity

    “Yet despite their horror, these egregious examples do not render those societies fundamentally violent.”

    I violently disagree. Since its very “creation” as a “state” in Truman’s term, Israel has been a violent nation.
    Google: “Nakba”

    • David From Canada

      Take off your blinders ad get rid of the tunnel vision.
      The Jewish people have been persecuted for centuries. Remember the Holocaust in the last century?
      Israel is surrounded by countries that want to destroy it. It deserves the support of the U.S.A and Canada.
      And Israel also has the right to defend itself from it’s violent anti-Semitic neighbours.

      • Schlukitz
        • Octavio

          That’s an interesting historical run down of the area in the 20th Century. Now I definitely won’t plan any ski vacations in the region. 🙂

        • Piet

          Particularly if you enjoy reading biased and in many cases false accounts that ignore the two millennia of international squabblings over the area. The mere fact that the only noted translation of this article is into Bosnian should be a signal that it’s skewed toward muslim apologetics. To start the history in the 1920s conveniently ignores a large part of the problem in the area — that it was owned by the Ottoman Empire for centuries until the Ottomans broke up after WW I and the British began interfering to keep the French influence on Syria and Lebanon tamped down.

          • Schlukitz

            Well then, perhaps this accounting might be more to your liking? No translation was required.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel

          • Olterigo

            It’s Alison Weir. She has no problems peddling her screeds on shows regularly presenting views of Holocaust deniers and white supremacists. Much of her view is a conspiracy theory, where Israel controls the whole world.

          • Piet

            Thanks for that information. I try to avoid conspiracy theorists whenever I can, so I sort of miss who’s who in the conspiracy theory world.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The racist war of ethnic cleansing against Palestinians began in 1948 with the murders at Deir Yassin and has continued at hundred of other sites since.

            That, and earlier zionist incursions under English rule are the only history pertinent to this discussion.

            “The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian Arab village of roughly 600 people. The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem by Palestinian Arab forces during thecivil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine.[1] The residents resisted the attack, and the village fell only after fierce house-to-house fighting.

            107 villagers were killed during and after the battle for the village, including women and children—some were shot, while others died when hand grenades were thrown into their homes.[2] Several villagers were taken prisoner and may have been killed after being paraded through the streets of West Jerusalem…”
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

          • Piet

            You are so full of shit it’s a wonder alternative energy boosters haven’t tapped you as a source of methane. If your entire idea about Israel starts at 1948, or 1927, or even 1900, it’s no wonder you don’t make sense half the time. Try reading a history of the area that was written by someone other than an echo in your head. I doubt it will change your mind but at least it might make your argument in favor of the Palestinians more intelligent.

          • Bill_Perdue

            ……

      • jomicur

        So your definition of “self-defense” includes burning babies alive? Well okay, then!

      • Clungeflaps

        No, they don’t deserve our support. My sympathies are with the Palestinians who essentially are condemned to live in an open air concentration camp.

        Maybe you Canadians think is cute to see Palestinian kids murdered by Israeli rockets. I certainly don’t.

      • Ish

        The Palestinian people shouldn’t have to pay for the crimes of Europeans. That is racism when you decide some people deserve suffering more than others.

      • Bill_Perdue

        “The Jewish people have been persecuted for centuries”. Mainly by christers, specifically the roman cult.

        Tell us why you think that oppression by christers justifies their policies of mass murder, ethnic cleansing and apartheid. Or burning babies. Or shelling kids playing on the beach. Or targeting children during on the periodic mass murder campaigns by IDF thugs. Or burning children alive.

        (1) “Tel Aviv – An autopsy of a Palestinian teenager murdered this week in an apparent revenge attack suggests that he was burned alive,according to Palestinian officials.

        The preliminary results showed that 16-year-old Mohammed Abu Khdair, who was buried
        by more than a thousand mourners on Friday, had a head wound and burns across 90 percent of his body, the officials said on Saturday.
        http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/autopsy-shows-palestinian-teen-burned-alive-20147512213466184.html

        (2)‘Israeli strike on Gaza school kills 15 and leaves 200 wounded – UN condemns shelling of UNRWA school, saying it asked IDF for time to evacuate civilians, which was not given.”
        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/israeli-strike-un-school-gaza-kills-women-children

        • PBGVNinja

          Correction… the Russian Orthodox weren’t terribly kind to the Jews either. In fact, they were pretty awful. Where do you think the word “Pogrom” comes from? Russ. In the Russian Empire, Jewish people were confined to the Pale, and were living in separate villages for centuries. They were purged in the 19th century, which is why so many of them left to come to the US and other places that would let them in.

          • Bill_Perdue

            And by protties, but the worst, in terms of casualties, came from the vatican cult.

          • PBGVNinja

            It started in earnest in 1492 with the reconquista, but there are plenty of bad actors in this story. The Russian Orthodox church and the Russo/Soviet Empire have a lot of blood on their hands – and the Russians were not only awful to Jews. Ask a Balt or Pole how they feel about Russians and you will get a whole lot of invective.

          • Schlukitz

            My German aunt often spoke of the brutality that the Russian soldiers showed to German woman during the occupation at the conclusion of WWII.

          • PBGVNinja

            I knew some Germans who experienced that treatment… they got out of E Prussia at the end of the war as refugees, wound up in E. Berlin and skipped to W. Berlin on the subway before the wall came up. The stories about having to celebrate Stalin’s birthday as singing schoolkids were vivid.

          • RoFaWh

            Then Georgians have no love for for the Russians, in spite of Stalin having been a Georgian (Iosip Djugashvili). They do love Stalin, however, “because he killed so many Russians.”

          • PBGVNinja

            Connard. Don’t cut and paste to reply to my comment about your comment. Vas te faire enculer.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I see you forgot your brain enema, again.

          • PBGVNinja

            Fo***tre nous la paix, vît trui… hint: in Wallon trui doesn’t mean troll, it stands for something much worse. You’ve done it again. Knock it off.

            https://youtu.be/TyaAD9w4Ev0

          • Bill_Perdue

          • PBGVNinja

            Plûtot, fier d’être amerloch, et toi, agent de l’FSB? Vas-t-en. Nous n’avons pas besoin de tes conneries ici. Qui m’emploie n’est pas ton affaire… et pour t’enseigner, c’est pas la police. I don’t like donuts.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Awww. It’s angry.

            Too bad.

          • PBGVNinja

            Go take your meds and get a real life.

          • Olterigo

            Funny, you want some pics of Hitler?
            Hajj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Pathetic.

            It may be a revelation for you but cult leaders have always been rightists. So have the leaders of the secular zionist movement. So are you.

          • Olterigo

            I was going to say I voted for Obama, but then I remembered that anyone who votes to your right is a rightist. So, coming from you, it’s quite a pointless statement.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You’re quite pointless.

          • Olterigo

            What? No bunkerstadt? No hasbarist? You’re losing your touch.

          • Bill_Perdue

            It’s bunkerstaat, and ‘hasbrasit’ is not a term I’ve ever used. But racist is a term I often use to describe you.

          • Olterigo

            Still, you’re losing your touch. You used to be more trolly. Now, most of your posts are not even a half-hearted attempt. Rheumatism or something?

          • Bill_Perdue

            .,.,

      • Richard Rush

        David, your view seems to be an outlier here, but I want to say that I agree with you.

        • another_steve

          On many issues, David is a voice of reason.

          I always read him.

          • Schlukitz

            People who make frequent bible quotes deludedly see themselves as voices of reason too.

      • another_steve

        David, radical Israel haters are immune to logic and reason. Commentators have described their “position” as “The New Anti-Semitism.”

        These radicals do not openly advocate for the abolition of the Jewish people (historically referred to as “The Final Solution”); instead, they advocate for the abolition of their homeland.

        It’s “code,” of course.

        When you advocate for the abolition of the State of Israel, you are advocating for the abolition of the Jewish people.

        All people of conscience — Jewish or not — understand this.

        • Schlukitz

          “they advocate for the abolition of their homeland.”

          It wasn’t their homeland.

          It was stolen from the Palestinians and given to them, just as land was stolen from the native indians here in this country.

      • TreGibbs

        Yikes !

      • TreGibbs

        So you support Palestinian apartheid?

      • People4Humanity

        Projection. Israel daily steals land from Palestine. Do you own real estate? How would you react if land your family owned for generations was stolen from you? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5db16703f50dc1bd81a3f2370a6252044c774826ac572cc6d894a7f139b13830.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d161496b33c965a3f0fedfb617bff11f4fcbbb62d548eb178dc52d6263fdb4ae.png

        • Schlukitz

          An exact repeat of what the USA did to the native indians.

          No wonder the USA supports israel.

          Like father…like son!

        • Olterigo

          Again this map?

          Pic 1. 95% of land below the word “Palestine” is a desert. Are you saying “Palestinian” Arabs (at the time just Arabs, as the word “Palestinian” referred to the Jews) were stupid enough to buy up so much desert?

          Pic 2. The UN Plan which the representatives of the “Palestinians” (the Arab Higher Committee) themselves rejected.

          Pic 3. What is this “Palestinian land”? Gaza was under Egyptian military administration, while the West Bank was annexed by the monarchy of Jordan. Palestinians were not clamoring for independent living or representative democracy in those territories.

          Pic 4. The first picture actually reflecting Palestinian Arabs actually exercising authority over territory.

          Pic 5. Israel left all of Gaza, but curiously that pic is not included. I guess it doesn’t fall well into your theory. Neither is included Israel returning to Egypt all of the Sinai with its oil or of giving to Jordan two oases upon concluding the peace treaties.

        • Olterigo

          As for your first map – I just noticed – you don’t even realize how funny it is! “Palestine” was the name that the Romans gave the whole area after they suppressed the Jewish revolts. Your map itself shows the Biblical names for the area – Galilee, Judea, Samaria. The last two is what the Jews today call the West Bank – Yehuda and Shomron.

  • Soren456

    “In spite of everything, I still believe that people are really good at heart” — Anne Frank

    She has been betrayed, again.

  • Bukki

    I think that the fundamental thing that Israel haters miss is that promotion of gay rights is itself an avenue towards peace and reconciliation.

    Widespread homophobia is a paraneoplastic syndrome that reveals a deeper cancer within the society. It is never just homophobia, it is the universal sign of social rot and creeping totalitarianism. Look at Russia, a nation that starts by prosecuting LGBT will quickly move to brutalizing other minorities, suppressing all free expression within its borders, and aggressive warfare against weaker neighbors.

    The day that two men can walk hand in hand without fear in Jerusalem and Gaza, is the day when Jews and Arabs are ready for real diplomacy. The day gays can marry in Tehran and Mecca, is the day that region stops being a slaughterhouse. It may take a hundred years, but that is what it will take.

    • uhhuhh

      I think what Netanyahu-worshipers miss is that when they use terms like “Israel haters” anytime anybody deigns to criticize that sacred bigot Bibi, they destroy their credibility.

      • Doug105

        There are a few that are one sided enough to fit that image, however you feel about the founding of Israel its there now and those who can excuse children of settlers as legitimate targets are no better then the scum that burned the palestinian child to death this week. And that kind of ideology only strengthens the war mongers amoung the israeli leadership allowing them to steal even more land.

        • Bill_Perdue

          The zionist colony is a racist state. Why do you support racism and pretend that zionists are not oppressors and Palestinians and not the oppressed.

          • Doug105

            Oh whining douchebag if you don’t like what I write call for a moderator and STFU.
            Also stop putting words in the mouths of others in your personal attacks. I have never once said I support the Islaeli settlements and believe they should be uprooted like weeds, but your hated and antisemitism shine though everytime this comes up, you though willingness to engage in apologetics for all Islam is no better than the beliefs that led to the child being mudered this week, we should all know by now you would have been fine with it had it been a settlers child like any good hypocrite.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Poor racist. See it spray spittle as it defends its own racsim.

            Supporters of the existence of the zionist state support it’s foundations – racist mass murder, racism land theft and racist apartheid. They come with the territory.

          • Doug105
          • Bill_Perdue

            Awwww. Starship spittle. How cute.

          • Doug105

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEeauLCOeXQ

            Putting criticism of Islam in a racist light is in itself racist. Remember that only 20% of Muslims are Arabic? Yet, calling someone an Islamophobe is always in the context of “Arab”, never “Indonesian”. This is what the Islamic apologeticists want: to stop anyone from criticizing Islam in any meaningful way. Do not fall into that trap. If someone brings up the specter of Islamophobia, call them on it. You are criticizing an idea, the fact that they call it racist means that they are the ones trying to infuse extreme religiosity with ethnicity; they are the racist.

          • Ish

            Yes and white crackers in the south say there is no such thing as racism.

          • Doug105

            Like how the words jew/Nword are now replaced by racists with Zionist/thug?
            Oh, Sockpuppet?

          • Ish

            That is a lie. The people making the equation between Jews and Zionists are the Israel government.

          • Doug105
          • JT

            The filing container for all things Perdueish?

          • Doug105

            A man and his sock.

          • another_steve

            Always helpful, I think, Doug, to remember (I’m guessing here) that 90 percent or so of Muslims don’t have the slightest fuck or concern what the Koran says or means, or what the mullahs are saying. They just want to feed their kids, stay safe, “obey god.”

            I think we must not extrapolate from the fundamentalists — of any religion — to the people in the pews just trying to survive in an insane world.

          • Doug105

            I don’t really care for either side in this, too many people with simple minded answers, like abolish israel. I do feel for the palestine people, but lauching attacks only gives more leeway to the hardcore expansionists in israel, making it harder to condemn the illegal settlements. And no one is going to go in there with force and remove the israeli state, the best that can be done is pressure and sanctions like were used in south africa. Again not going to happen with our christian heavy government. At this rate the place will be a sea of radioactive glass before there is peace.

          • another_steve

            Hear ya, Doug.

            This political conflict is one of the most intractable of our time. Look how many world leaders have tried to intervene, without success.

            If I’m very lucky, I have — at the most — 20 or 30 years left on the surface of the planet.

            I hope I live long enough to see a resolution of the conflict.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Stop lying. You’re a Democrat who’s in total agreement with Obama’s wars of aggression to increase the profits American corporations.

          • Doug105
          • Schlukitz

            And this somehow lends credibility to your argument?

            Please see my earlier response to this uncalled for display of hostility.

          • Doug105

            /Shug
            Its a fitting response to his consent name calling and racebaiting.
            Letting him know I’m not going to play his game and to get lost.
            And on that note, no one ever said I was mentally mature, at least not after I left my teens behind. And really, you only see threat and not humor in the image?

          • Schlukitz

            Implied death threats are not humorous!

          • Doug105

            It’s not implied, no one in their right mind would take this image seriously. But fine just to make you happy I’ll replace the images.

          • Schlukitz

            I am certain that you implied no harm to Bill. I do not get that you are an evil person.

            That is precisely the problem, however. There are so many people out there who are not in their right mind and who will take that image seriously and possibly use it against us.

            I really do appreciate that you are taking these images down. You are a better man for doing so.

            Hugs.

          • Doug105
          • Schlukitz

            LOL

            Love the raccoon image. They’re among my favorite “people”.

          • Bill_Perdue

            ,,

          • Doug105

            .And you think this is a problem for me how?

          • Bill_Perdue

            Mandela was for Palestinian independence – you’re not. You’re a supporter of zionist apartheid, ethnic cleansing and land theft and the Clinton/Obama racist wars of aggression against Arab and muslim nations.

            Independence means the absolute right of return for the millions of Palestinian refugees, victims of zionist terrorism. Your views are based on your uncritical support of Obama and the Clintons. Those are incompatible with Palestinians rights.

            “If one has to refer to any of the parties as a terrorist state, one might refer to the Israeli government, because they are the people who are slaughtering defenseless and innocent Arabs in the occupied [Palestinian] territories, and we don’t regard that as acceptable.” (Nelson Mandela, 1990)

            “What we know is that Israel has weapons of mass destruction. Nobody talks about that. Why should there be one standard for one country, especially because it is black, and another one for another country, Israel, that is white.” (Nelson Mandela, 2002)

          • Doug105

            Still more proof your a racistbaiting bigot making assumptions about the views of others. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1d100e6449a6477ff47705cc68742557f17789eaed4765ce83f3a300b43b1c9.png

          • Bill_Perdue

            Mandela was for Palestinian independence – you’re not. You’re a supporter of zionist apartheid, ethnic cleansing and land theft and the Clinton/Obama racist wars of aggression against Arab and muslim nations.

            Independence means the absolute right of return for the millions of Palestinian refugees, victims of zionist terrorism. Your views are based on your uncritical support of Obama and the Clintons. Those are incompatible with Palestinians rights.

            No matter how much you lie and squirm you cannot be for Palestinians rights if you support Obama and the Clinton’s wars of aggression and their total support for IDF thugs.

            Just be honest. You’re a racist.

          • Doug105

            Still more proof your a racistbaiting bigot making assumptions about the views of others. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1d100e6449a6477ff47705cc68742557f17789eaed4765ce83f3a300b43b1c9.png n

          • Bill_Perdue

            Mandela was for Palestinian independence – you’re not. You’re a supporter of zionist apartheid, ethnic cleansing and land theft and the Clinton/Obama racist wars of aggression against Arab and muslim nations.

            Independence means the absolute right of return for the millions of Palestinian refugees, victims of zionist terrorism. Your views are based on your uncritical support of Obama and the Clintons. Those are incompatible with Palestinians rights.

            No matter how much you lie and squirm you cannot be for Palestinians rights if you support Obama and the Clinton’s wars of aggression and their total support for IDF thugs.

            Just be honest. You’re a racist.

          • Doug105
          • Bill_Perdue

            Poster boi thinks that small minded personal attacks are sufficient.

          • Doug105
          • Schlukitz

            “They just want to feed their kids, stay safe, “obey god.”

            Even if obeying God includes hanging gay kids, throwing LGBT people off of roof tops or stoning women for being raped.

            You are one sick fucking puppy.

          • Doug105

            I worked for a moderate Indian Muslim couple for 20 years, she knew I was gay and an atheist it was very live and let live. We sometimes talked about these topics and she would often refer to those groups as crazy. Sadly, at this time that’s most of them.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You’re blithering as well as spewing.

            Islamophobia is racsim and so is zionism. And so is your defense of zionist apartheid, mass murder and land theft. Those are the only policies pursued by zionists in their relations with Palestinians and other muslims.

          • Doug105

            ..

          • josephsinger

            Billy, you need help. If you do not get it nobody can help you.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The mindless hatred of a racist.

          • josephsinger

            Billy, you are sick and you need to seek help.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The mindless hatred of a racist.

          • AJD

            I found a picture of Bill!

          • Bill_Perdue

            The mindless hatred of a racist.

          • JT

            Bobbsey Twins are back.

          • Doug105
          • Bill_Perdue

            The mindless hatred of racists.

          • Doug105
          • Bill_Perdue

          • Doug105

            And you think this is a problem for me how?

          • Bill_Perdue

            Mandela was for Palestinian independence – you’re not. You’re a supporter of zionist apartheid, ethnic cleansing and land theft and the Clinton/Obama racist wars of aggression against Arab and muslim nations

            Independence means the absolute right of return for the millions of Palestinian refugees, victims of zionist terrorism. Your views are based on your uncritical support of Obama and the Clintons. Those are incompatible with Palestinians rights.

            “If one has to refer to any of the parties as a terrorist state, one might refer to the Israeli government, because they are the people who are slaughtering defenseless and innocent Arabs in the occupied [Palestinian] territories, and we don’t regard that as acceptable.” (Nelson Mandela, 1990)

            “What we know is that Israel has weapons of mass destruction. Nobody talks about that. Why should there be one standard for one country, especially because it is black, and another one for another country, Israel, that is white.” (Nelson Mandela, 2002)

          • Doug105

            Still more proof your a racistbaiting bigot making assumptions about the views of others. .

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1d100e6449a6477ff47705cc68742557f17789eaed4765ce83f3a300b43b1c9.png

          • Bill_Perdue

            Mandela was for Palestinian independence – you’re not. You’re a supporter of zionist apartheid, ethnic cleansing and land theft and the Clinton/Obama racist wars of aggression against Arab and muslim nations.

            Independence means the absolute right of return for the millions of Palestinian refugees, victims of zionist terrorism. Your views are based on your uncritical support of Obama and the Clintons. Those are incompatible with Palestinians rights

            No matter how much you lie and squirm you cannot be for Palestinians rights if you support Obama and the Clinton wars of aggression and their total support for IDF thugs.

            Just be honest. You’re a racist.

          • Doug105

            Still more proof your a racistbaiting bigot making assumptions about the views of others. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1d100e6449a6477ff47705cc68742557f17789eaed4765ce83f3a300b43b1c9.png m

          • Bill_Perdue

            Mandela was for Palestinian independence – you’re not. You’re a supporter of zionist apartheid, ethnic cleansing and land theft and the Clinton/Obama racist wars of aggression against Arab and muslim nations.

            Independence means the absolute right of return for the millions of Palestinian refugees, victims of zionist terrorism. Your views are based on your uncritical support of Obama and the Clintons. Those are incompatible with Palestinians rights

            No matter how much you lie and squirm you cannot be for Palestinians rights if you support Obama and the Clinton’s wars of aggression and their total support for IDF thugs.

            Just be honest. You’re a racist.

          • Doug105
          • josephsinger

            Uh oh. Billy’s off his anti-psychotic meds again. We all know how unhinged he can get when he refuses to take his meds.

          • Ish

            Hey personal insults! That’s fresh!

          • josephsinger

            Oh no. Not personal insults. When Bill gets off his schizophrenia meds he’s irrational.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The mindless hatred of a racist.

          • Polterguest

            Poor little piggy is being ironic again. Get the mental health assistance you deserve you revolting pig.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The mindless hatred of a racist

          • josephsinger

            Billy, you keep repeating yourself. I think this shows that your mind is deteriorating even quicker than you thought. Seek help Billy.

          • Bill_Perdue

            More mindless hatred from a racist.

          • josephsinger

            Billy, Billy, Billy, you keep saying the same thing over and over. You do not have to be ashamed of your mental illness. You just need to seek treatment.

          • Bill_Perdue

            It fits. More mindless hatred from a racist.

          • josephsinger

            Billy, you need help. Until you recognize that you are sick you can’t be helped. Please Billy, seek help.

          • Bill_Perdue

            ..

        • another_steve

          Doug, “you shall know them” (to use a biblical phrase) by their condemnation of the one side of this horrid conflict and their absolute silence with respect to the atrocities perpetrated by the other side.

          The “Jewish blood is lesser blood” is a many centuries-old meme. Historians reading here will immediately recognize it.

          So when you read a comment here on JMG condemning (rightfully) the spilling of Palestinian blood, but without a mention of the horror of the spilling of Jewish blood…

          by that you shall know them.

          • Ish

            Your slimy insinuations that anti-zionism is anti-semitism are as disgusting as they are disengenous, coming from a racist like yourself. There is simply no comparison between the violence of the oppressed and the violence of the oppressor. You are on the wrong side. Also, you might want to peruse the other JMG threads on this incident for a taste of real anti-semitism, which doesn’t actually seem to bother you very much because you’re using this lie to deflect from your identification with a racist settler state.

          • another_steve

            Your brand of anti-zionism is certainly anti-semitism, Ish. You and your brother Bill on this blog are poster boys for the New Anti-Semitism.

            I detest some of the policies and positions of Israel. I’ve repeatedly expressed my revulsion with respect to the settlements, which all nations with a conscience have rightfully condemned. Also, the failure on the part of the State of Israel to account for the homeland concerns of the Palestinian people is equally horrid and revolting.

            Failure to recognize and acknowledge both sides of the conflict defines you, Ish.

            Watch your words, Ish.

            Historians will remember.

          • Ish

            What historians will remember when they record the dying days of rightward drifting liberalism is how “liberals” like you aligned themselves with a racist apartheid state, supported the repression of dissidents (Snowden) and came to justify their own support for militarist expansionism. Your accusation of my antisemitism is a LIE no matter how many times you repeat it.

            For you, the Nazi occupation of Poland would have been a “conflict with two sides” where your concern for Nazi german civilians seizing the property of Poles would trump the world’s concern for Jews. For you, the fate of blood-drenched colonial settlers in the Belgian Congo (two sides!) would have caused you to turn your back on the millions of enslaved and mutilated African victims of colonialism. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. All of Israel is occupied Palestinian land. Your disregard for the humanity of Palestinians is the real antisemitism here. Now, go lecture your fellow JMG commenters complaining elsewhere about smelly Orthodox Jews. That’s the real antisemitism here and you have turned a blind eye to it in the service of your racist, reactionary views.

          • another_steve

            Far-left-drifting liberalism will be the demise of us all, Ish. Most of the world, politically, is in the center. To drift too far from the center is disaster.

            Always, we must strive toward the center, where the vast majority of humankind resides.

            Where ordinary shmucks, like me, reside.

          • Schlukitz

            Ah yes. The center.

            That sweet spot where the extreme actions of either side can be ignored while the good folks move on with their lives and keep feeling good about themselves, just like the RC Catholic Church and their supporters did while Hitler ravaged the planet.

            Come to think of it, the Germans felt pretty good about themselves too as the cattle cars carried the Jews off to the concentration camps.

          • AJD

            The fact that you compare the Nazi occupation of Poland – which led to the near-extermination of Jews and Roma there – to Israel’s existence as a state only proves Steve’s and my longstanding view that your “anti-Zionism” is nothing but a cloak for deep-seated antisemitism. You can’t even see how completely fucking offensive that is.

            It’s also a completely absurd comparison. Poland was a country being occupied by a foreign power, and the same goes for the Congo. Israel is an independent state, and the overwhelming majority of its population is native-born.

          • Bill_Perdue

            zionists learned all the wrong lessons from the Nazis.

          • Ish

            Israel is a settler colonial entity. Ask the Palestinians displaced from their homes or living in occupied ghettos whether it is an absurd comparison.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The mindless hatred of a racist pig.

          • GarySFBCN

            OK, I’ll mention it. Here are the statistics since 2000:

            Breakdown of Deaths:

            Israelis – 1,198
            Palestinians – 9,139

            Israeli Children Killed – 129
            Palestinian Children killed – 1,523

            Funny thing is that the majority of American Jews support Obama’s treaty with Iran, and many are outspoken in their disgust with Israel. And like me, they don’t feel they have to mention “the spilling” (really?) of Jewish blood when they talk about Israel’s nearly genocidal policy towards the Palestinians.

            How dare you imply they they/we are anti-Semitic. Again Mr. Cheap Shot (you) echos Fox News.

          • JT

            Actually, it’s not funny at all that the majority of American Jews support Obama’s treaty and oppose Netanyahoo’s government. Historically, they have been supporters of the Labor Party, which is secular and socialist, quite the opposite of the right wing forces under Netanyahoo.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Your support for zionist land theft, ethnic cleansing and apartheid is a function of your support for Obama’s wars of aggression to increase the profits of American corporations irrespective of he number of civilians he kills or the number of GIs killed.

          • JT

            You are an ideological psychopath.

          • Schlukitz

            That’s a personal attack.

            Do you have any empirical evidence to back up your arguments that the rest of us could relate to or address?

          • JT

            All you need to do is read his posts.

          • Schlukitz

            I have been reading Bill’s posts for a good many years now.

            Bill presents cogent arguments, backed-up with sources and links that suport his position. Whether you agree with his position or not is immaterial.

            His views are considered controversial, but in all of the time that I have known this man, I have never seen him make a personal attack on anyone until they resort to slinging insults at him instead of presenting a counter argument that makes sense.

            Disagree with the man if you will. That is your right. But indulging yourself in mud-slinging does nothing to further your credibility. If his comments bother you that much, you do have the option of just ignoring him, unlike another commentator on this site who shall remain nameless, who posted what I consider to be a death-threat…a picture of a hand grenade with the caption “Take a number”. That is totally over the top.

            I think that we can do better than that, JT. We already have enough enemies to marginalize and sling insults at us. Do we really need one of our own particupating in this sort of thing?

            Food for thought.

          • JT

            You need to read back over the posts of this individual to me over the last several days.

            He is totally incapable of seeing nuance in a political position and is usually the first to resort to personal attacks. “Racist” comes ever too quickly to him as a response to those who disagree with him. He also will not admit plain facts: e.g., that the recent SCOTUS decision was the result of a majority which wouldn’t have existed except for Justices appointed by the last two Democratic Presidents.

            By the way, his comments do not “bother me that much.” I find them rather ridiculous and amusing.

            I also note that in defending this person, you move from what you characterize as a “personal attack” imputed to me to something about a “death threat” by someone else. Really? That’s a bit much, don’t you think. Perhaps you should think about that.

          • Schlukitz

            In no way was I trying to attribute the “death threat” to you or in way associate you with it. The blame lies squarely on the shoulders of the person who made that post (twice, I might add) and he knows who he is.

            I mentioned it only because this sort of in-fighting often escalates to a point where some folks lose the ability to carefully measure what they say or do.

          • JT

            There is no in-fighting here. I don’t regard him as part of the group. I’ve even seen reference to suspicion about the genuineness of his support for gay rights. I certainly have my doubts. His lack of understanding of political realities and how voting strategically matters, as well as an apparent failure to appreciate how difficult it has been to win the few victories we have over the last 20 years or so indicate a lack of personal connection with these matters.

            If you are not aware of the kind of thing I’ve referred to in his postings, perhaps that’s because you’ve not gone far enough in disagreement with him. As for me, there is no way I would allow his presence to interfere with my enjoyment of or participation in JMG. I look forward to seeing a bipedal racoon as often as possible.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I am not part of the group that puts their party – Democrat or Republican – before the needs of the LGBT communities and movement. You are.

          • JT

            Of course you are, the moment you vote, or recommend others to vote, in a way that renders more likely the election of a candidate who is anti-gay and vehemently so.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You and your party gave us DOMA and DADT. Your party, in the person of Obama ensured the passage of

            Prop 8. Your party, with your assent by voting, refused to repeal your party’s DOMA or too pass anti discrimination bills if they had a chance to be enacted.

            Republicans gave us state DOMAs.

            Democrats are the same as Republicans except that they’re better at rebranding, aka, lying.

            You and your party put the welfare of your party ahead of the welfare and needs of the LGBT communities.

          • JT

            You continually refer to political mistakes of the past for those you consider opponents. And yet you disregard bad things that have been done by those of your own professed faction. A mistaken standard and clearly a double standard. You simply ignore the fact of historical change. Again, total lack of political realism on your part. And of course, you ignore the fact that it was the past two Democratic Presidents who were responsible for appointing the Supreme Court Justices who gave us same sex marriage. Had the Republicans won those elections there would now be a solid 8-9 vote wingnut court. If that were true now, not only would we not have same sex marriage across the country, we would still have DOMA and Prop 8 and we might even have Lawrence v Texas overturned. If recommending action that would make that outcome possible is not putting political ideology ahead of LGBT rights, nothing is.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Your party is anti gay and pretends not to be. Republicans are anti gay and don’t bother pretending.

            There are no differences between people like you and LCR except that you sell us out to different masters.

            The Supremes did not give us anything, the LGBT movement forced compliance with our wishes by political pressure. Just as Republican dominated state Supremes in Massachusetts and California were forced to give us marriage equality. .

          • JT

            Again, complete lack of political realism. Democratic Presidents gave us 4 solid liberal justices who would otherwise have been extreme conservatives. That cannot be denied, unless your ideology is making you blind or obstinate. The LGBT movement could not have given us same sex marriage all by itself. “The Supremes did not give us anything.” That statement is simply ridiculous.

            I am starring this posting by you for future reference.

            *******************************

          • Bill_Perdue

            Be my guest. ?Your kind of crackpot realism emphasizes the necessity of voting for bigots like the Clintons and
            Obama who made sure to inflict DOMA, DADT on us and to refuse ENDA. And it allowed Obama to sabotage marriage in 2008.

            As I said, your party is anti gay and pretends not to be. Republicans are anti gay and don’t bother pretending.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6K9dS9wl7U

          • JT

            Again, total lack of realism and a resort to diversionary tactics of pretending that things don’t change. This is what makes people not take you seriously. If that’s what you want, fine. But if not, you need to rethink your approach.

            You can keep saying what you say till the cows come home. It doesn’t make it any more credible.

            If people actually did what you’re recommending, the hardship and suffering of the LBGT community would be much worse than it is. You should be ashamed of yourself for recommending such a thing.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Things do change but outside of your party, not in it.

            Your party ensured that “hardship and suffering of the LBGT community” was harsh with DOMA, DADT and by yor pigheaded refusal to pass anti-discrimination laws.

            You gave us fracking, invasions and attacks on half a dozen countries, Gaza last year and ongoing ethnic cleansing. TPP low wages accompanied by your party’s union busting.

            You’re just Republicans in drag,

            Since 27 million deserted your and your party in 2010 independent, left wing political action has been growing ad it will continue to grow.

            Sayonara, Whig.

          • I Am JT 2

            Wow, Bill. Everyone has your number: you don’t support allowing gays to serve in military because you do not believe that gays should serve in the military at all yet you continue to bitch about DADT, which has been repealed, AND you do not believe that gays should get married yet you bitch about DOMA, which is a thing of the past. Could you please find consistency and update your tired old talking points? Pathetic!

          • Bill_Perdue

            Polterguest woke up cranky. There weren’t enough stores of dead Palestinians to keep him amused.

          • JT

            You are wrong again. Parties are made of people and people change their views. You even admitted this before about communists and socialists changing views about gay rights. So, again, you’re either lying or applying a double standard. In any case, you’re wrong.

            Again you refuse to admit that DOMA and DADT were ended through the actions of Democratic administrations by way of SCOTUS appointments and executive actions. Your obstinate ideology talks instead of your mind.

            Again you engage in puerile and meaningless name calling.

            Again you recommend that people vote in a way that will make things worse for them than better. If people had followed your advice for the last few elections, wingnuts would have won and things for LGBT people would be much, much worse than they are now. You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting that. You have no regard for gay rights at all but are acting like a wingnut operative trying to ensure the election of wingnuts. Shame, shame, shame.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Real change occurs outside the Democrat/Republican party, no in it, It never has.

            Stop lying. The Democrat/Republicans are owned by the rich and it’s doesn’t matter what voters say. Those parties are owned by the rich. Proof on file: “A new scientific study from Princeton researcher Martin Gilens and Northwestern researcher Benjamin I. Page has finally put some science behind the recently popular argument that the United States isn’t a democracy any more. And they’ve found that in fact, America is basically an oligarchy.
            Comparing the preferences of the average American at the 50th percentile of income to what those Americans at the 90th percentile preferred, as well as the opinions of major lobbying or business groups, the researchers found out that the government followed the directives set forth by the latter two much more often. It’s beyond alarming.
            As Gilens and Page write, ‘the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.’ In other words, their statistics say your opinion literally does not matter.”
            http://mic.com/articles/87719/princeton-concludes-what-kind-of-government-america-really-has-and-it-s-not-a-democracy

          • JT

            You know, it would make you look less silly if you didn’t go to the “lying” nonsense with people you disagree with. It makes you out to be a robotic ideologue not worth taking seriously.

            The question being addressed is whether electing a Democrat rather than a wingnut makes a difference to people’s lives. It clearly does as I’ve indicated. Even if Democrats were wholly owned by the rich, that would not change the fact of the positive effect on LGBT people’s lives of having had the last two Democratic Presidents.

          • Schlukitz

            If you have an argument to make, make it.

            But, please, please, spare us of the bible quotes.

            We already know that your hubby is a Catlick. You don’t need to keep banging us over the head with your bible as a reminder.

          • Bill_Perdue

            The mindless hatred of a racist pig..

          • Schlukitz

            And who tosses bible phrases at us that are, no doubt, supplied to him by his Catlick hubby.

          • Bill_Perdue

            He’s a disgusting creature and his boozing doesn’t make it any easier on the rest of us.

          • Schlukitz

            I wasn’t aware that he is a boozer.

            But, that does help to explain his incoherentness.

          • Bill_Perdue

            He says he is and then he makes comments like this: “another_steve
            Bill_Perdue• 21 days ago
            There is that, Bill, and there is the fact — known to every male in the
            Northern Hemisphere — that your mother sucked the cock of anything that
            moved.” http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2015/06/south-korea-court-rules-seoul-police.html

            I believe him.

          • Schlukitz

            Thanks for pointing that post out to me. I missed that one.

            He is despicable. Of that, there is no doubt.

          • Bill_Perdue

            That he is.

        • uhhuhh

          Coddling the Israeli warmongers for decades is what has allowed them to steal so much land already that a two-state solution is practically impossible now. It’s time for the US to stop enabling them.

    • GarySFBCN

      Oh bullshit. Gays have been serving in the military there for years and that hasn’t advanced anything but the right-wing and religious extremists in Israel.

    • Ish

      Israeli bombs are as likely to kill two queer men walking together in Gaza as two straight men.

      • BrandySpears

        Palestinian authorities are much more likely to kill them first. Fun fact.

        • Bill_Perdue

          At a minimum tens of thousands of Palestinians – men, women and children – have been murdered by zionist thugs in and out of uniform. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_casualties_of_war

          • Just Asking

            Just curious: have you ever given to a Palestinian charity, volunteered your time for Palestinian causes or actively engaged with political causes related Palestine with your physical presence ?

          • Bill_Perdue

            Yes, yes, yes. I’ve been a supporter of Palestine since the 1960s.

            I’m curious, why are you a paid sockpuppet? Have you no sense of decency, at long last, sockpuppet man.

          • Schlukitz

            I always get a huge laugh out of people who resort to that sort of interrogation to make their pointless point.

            As if your physical presence there has anything to do with how you feel or think about a particular topic.

            It’s like my saying that I do not believe in hell and then having some clown ask me “How do you know if it exists or not? Have you ever been there?” LOL

          • Bill_Perdue

            These people crawl out from under the rocks for every discussion we have on zionism.

          • Schlukitz

            So true, Bill.

            As has often been said, when one has to resort to personal attacks, the argument has already been lost.

          • Bill Clinton

            Now we know that you might really care about the Palestinian issue because when it comes to the Clintons and old issue of DADT and DOMA, we know that ,today, you do not think that gays should serve in the military at all and you do not think that gays should enter into marriage.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Sockpuppet man with a new moniker.

            You’re way overpaid. You lie so poorly that Goebbels would be so ashamed of you.

          • Bill Clinton

            Deflect when you have been confronted as usual. If you ever bring up the Clintons and DADT or DOMA again in any of these forums, you will be reminded of your own documented words – you don’t support the institution of marriage at all AND you don’t support allowing gays to serve in the military. If you are going to be a bully, be prepared to be squashed.

          • Bill_Perdue

          • JCF

            ^Lawyer for Trump’s slumlord cases?

          • Bill_Perdue

            I’ve read that in several articles.

            “They met at Le Club, a private disco on the Upper East Side frequented by Jackie Kennedy, Al Pacino, and Diana Ross, according to Trump: The Saga of America’s Most Powerful Real Estate Baron. Donald Trump, the young developer, quickly amassing a fortune in New York real estate and Roy Cohn, America’s most loathed yet socially successful defense attorney who had vaulted to infamy in the 1950s while serving as legal counsel to Senator Joseph McCarthy.

            The friendship they forged would provide the foundation for Trump’s eventual presidential campaign. And in hindsight, it serves as a tool for understanding Donald Trump the Candidate, whose bumper sticker-averse declarations—undocumented Mexican immigrants are “criminals” and “rapists”…

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/23/trump-s-mobbed-up-mccarthyite-mentor.html

        • Ish

          A lie. Entirely your own fantasy.

          • BrandySpears

            The Palestinian National Authority awards the death penalty for homosexuals. Not one single protection exists for LGBT Palestinians.

            You’re going to have to try harder to whitewash the image of your favorite neo-Nazi org – Hamas.

          • Ish

            That is a lie. Homosexuality is not illegal in the Palestine Authority.

          • BrandySpears

            Either those LGBT Palestinians escaping the barbarism of neo-Nazis are lying or you are. It happens to be the latter:
            http://www.gaylawnet.com/laws/ps.htm

          • Schlukitz

            Perhaps this will shed some additional light on what life is like for LGBT people in Palenstine. It’s not all black and white.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_Palestinian_territories

          • Doug105

            No its not, black or white, but that is how some present it.

          • Bill_Perdue

            From your source ” In 1951, the Jordanian Penal Code of 1951, largely modified in 1960 was in force and consensual sex between same-sex couples became lawful”

            In Gaza the laws are carryovers from English colonial rule. They are not islamist laws and the penalty is “imprisonment for a term of ten years” It doesn’t mention a death penalty.

            As for honor killings I didn’t find any proof that gay men are killed, but that doesn’t mean none have happened.

            Do you ever stop lying? Can you stop? What’s wrong with you.

          • BrandySpears

            Your Hamas utopia is a paradise for gays. You’re ridiculous.

          • Schlukitz

            No one here is saying that Palestine is a paradise for gays.

            You are being called on your lie that gays are killed by the Palestine National Authority.

            Lying makes you look as much like an extremeist as the religious nut who stabbed six LGBT people in the Pride Parade.

          • BrandySpears

            Such a bulwark of tolerance:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUwmT0eJi9U

          • Schlukitz

            Stop side-stepping the issue.

            Did you or did you not say that, the Palestinian National Authority kills gays?

          • BrandySpears

            Sure did. Are you saying those gay Palestinians fleeing fear of death are secretly lying?

          • Schlukitz

            More deflection. Very disingenuous of you.

            Many gay Palestinians are fleeing becaue of their fear of death, not from their government but from the religiously motivated hatred for homosexuality of their fellow Palestinians, just as Christianity poisons the minds of Americans and causes them to slaughter our brothers and sisters on the streets of America.

            That said, you are still a liar because you still are insisting that the Palestinian National Authority kills gays and for which you have not been able to provide one shed of validation of your claim.

            Liar. Liar. Pants on fire!

          • BrandySpears

            I’ll take that as a yes.
            Interesting you blame all Palestinians instead of their religious bigot government. Hamas is just ISIS-lite.

          • Schlukitz

            You never stop twisting and convoluting facts, do you?

            I agreed with you that gays are dying at the hand of their fellow Palestinians.

            I did NOT however, agree with you that the Palestine National Authority is killing people. You are the one who keeps insisting that it their government that is doing the killing.

            You said that. And it still remains a lie no matter how much you dance around the issue.

            Fuck you, you racist Palestinian hater. I’ve had it with you. Go piss on someone elses petunias.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I just proved that you’re a liar and you reply with a personal attack.

            Nothing new here folks. Same old, same old bullshit.

          • BrandySpears

            Billy still trying to whitewash the homophobia of his favorite neo-Nazis. Either this gay Palestinian is lying or you are. As usual, it’s the latter.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ripFnwrOhMI

          • Ish

            Gay people face violence here in the US. The greater threat to Palestinian queers is from Israeli apartheid. John Calvin is hardly representative of the majority of Palestinian queers, who actually oppose racist apartheid and its racist apologists like you.

            http://www.alqaws.org/siteEn/index

          • BrandySpears

            There is ZERO tolerance for homosexuality in Palestinian society. Stop your whitewashing of bigotry.
            http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/30/palestinian-protesters-whitewash-rainbow-flag-west-bank-barrier

          • Ish

            That incident shows exactly the opposite than “zero” tolerance. Keep your racist fantasies to yourself.

          • BrandySpears

            Of course you’d agree with painting over a rainbow flag to silence the voice of a gay Palestinian activist. I expect nothing less from you homophobic apologists.

          • Schlukitz

            Good grief! You sound exactly like Jedgar.

            “Look, another pinko commie.”

          • Schlukitz

            “The Palestinian National Authority awards the death penalty for homosexuals.”

            You made that comment and it is an outright lie.

            You then posted a video in which the subject claims that he will be killed when he is returned to the left bank, yet you have provided not one shred of empirical evidence that Palestinian National Authority does, in fact, execute homosexuals.

            Anyone can make claims. Proving them, however, is a whole different ball of wax.

          • BrandySpears

            I believe the gay Palestinian over apologists for homophobia like yourself

          • Schlukitz

            That’s right. Keep changing the subject and never addressing what you actually said. Just point fingers.

            “Oh look…there’s another homophobe over there on JMG.”

            I will copy and paste your comment yet one more time, since you choose to ignore your own words.

            “The Palestinian National Authority awards the death penalty for homosexuals.”

            Busted.

            Liar. Liar. Pants on fire!

          • BrandySpears

            Tel Aviv remains a beacon of tolerance surrounded by a cesspit of Islamist homophobia. Glad that offends you.

          • Schlukitz

            Yes. And here is an example of that beacon of tolerence

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting

            You might be satisfied with tolerence but I prefer the full equality that my tax dollars and willingness to become cannon fodder for the state should be affording LGBT people in Israel.

          • BrandySpears

            Tel Aviv has a gay center. Enough said.

          • Schlukitz

            Even if it does get shot-up on occasion.

            You do realize, of course, why this center was established in the first place?

            New Tel Aviv center will help fight violence against gays …
            http://www.haaretz.com/…/israel/new-tel-aviv-center-will-help-fight-vi...
            Haaretz
            Aug 1, 2012 – A new center to combat violence against gays will be launched in Tel Aviv on Wednesday.

          • BrandySpears

            News flash: gay bashing happen in the Castro, too.

          • Schlukitz

            Please show me where I said that they don’t.

            More disingenuous deflection.

            Do you ever stop lying?

          • Bill_Perdue

            It’s Jaffa and you’re pinkwashing apartheid, mass murder and land theft.

            Nothing new here folks.

          • Schlukitz

            Earlier on, BrandySpears suggested that we should invest in a History book.

            Perhaps she should invest in a Geography book? LOL

          • Bill_Perdue

            Spears has no appreciation for facts however recorded.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Are you referring to Jaffa?

          • Bill_Perdue

            I quoted your report back at you and it makes you a liar.

            Do you ever stop lying?

            Can you stop?

            What’s wrong with you?

      • Schlukitz

        Point of fact.

      • GarySFBCN

        If only our gaydar could detect…oh never mind.

    • unsavedheathen

      Russia didn’t start by persecuting LGBT. They started by persecuting muslim minorities in their southern provinces plus Georgians, Ukranians, Turkmen, Azeris, Armenians, Jews, etc. LGBT persecution came about when Russian public began to realize the cost of all that warmaking, when the body bags began to arrive in number and when international sanctions began to affect the economy. We are a handy scapegoat for right wing governments from Tennessee to Timbuktu.

      No job? No bread? Your son is dead? LOOK OVER THERE! FAGGOTS!

      • BrandySpears

        Russia started by acceptance of homosexuality after the revolution to outlawing under Stalin. Invest in a history book.

        • unsavedheathen

          I’m speaking of post-Soviet Russia and Putin not the immediate aftermath of the Bolshevik Revolution.

          Invest in this. (I know you can’t see my hand but use your imagination.)

        • PBGVNinja

          Stalinist “law” – if you can term anything under Stalin as legal…. 5 years in the gulag system for homosexual behavior or even the suspicion of it. That law wasn’t repealed until Yeltsin came into power. Gays were treated as the lowest of the low in the gulags… the whole system used sexual repression as a lever. The State had ultimate authority to determine who you could marry and who you could have sex with, and women were routinely allowed to be raped by male prisoners on the gulag trains out to Severo-Sibirsk. A true “worker’s paradise”, created through crushing repression and mass murder.

          • Bill_Perdue

            What does the CIA pay these days? Are you comfortable with your wages?

    • another_steve

      What a smart and thoughtful comment, Bukki. Thank you.

      First, careful observers must and will dismiss the rhetoric of far leftist Israel haters. These are the same people who refuse to condemn Edward Snowden for taking refuge in, of all places, Russia.

      Second, there are, in my opinion, real and valid arguments to be made against Israeli policies — particularly the settlements. But that in no way impacts on the fact that Israel is a virtual haven for LGBT people in a part of the world where people are routinely executed on account of their sexual orientation.

      Two separate issues.

      • I know that quite a few LGBT folks from muslim countries fee to Turkey as its seen as a safe haven to await documents to immigrate to safer countries, primarily France. Which has heated up a different ball of hate wax, as the French see it as a Mulismication of their country.

        • Schlukitz

          Did you mean Muslamification?

          • blush, yes. I am nothing but a horrid speller. sorry

          • Schlukitz

            No apology necessary. We all make typos.

            My apologies for being a grammar Nazi.

            Hugz.

        • Ninja0980

          My friend’s Iranian husband fled through that pipeline before he ended up in the U.S.

      • GarySFBCN

        Except for that the attacker at the pride parade is from the same right-wing branch of Orthodoxy and Zionism that creates the policies that allow the settlements.

        The issues cannot and should not be separated.
        To do so is indeed ‘pinkwashing.’

        • Olterigo

          LOL, the attacker does not recognize the Israeli government just like he doesn’t recognize the Israeli court, where he’s appeared. Is it really so hard to understand?

          He comes from a specific part of ultra-Orthodox community, which does not recognize the legitimacy of the state of Israel based on their religious beliefs. So, he can not be a Zionist in the modern sense.

          But then again, when you already created the image of “the enemy,” why bother actually understanding what the guy said?

    • Merv99

      I know I’m not the only one who had to look it up…

      Paraneoplastic Syndrome: A paraneoplastic syndrome is a syndrome (a set of signs and symptoms) that is the consequence of cancer in the body but that, unlike mass effect, is not due to the local presence of cancer cells.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraneoplastic_syndrome

    • Bill_Perdue

      Look at the zionist colony if you want to see a racist police state in headlong decay. The zionist colonial state is exhibiting high levels of homophobia, child abuse, rape and anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab and anti African racism. Those characteristics are the sum total of the goals and polices of a terrorist state that practices ethnic cleansing and which is undergoing extreme lurches to the right.

      “New Probe Exposes Horrific Child Abuse by Israeli Forces Palestinian children face chokeholds, stun grenades, and forced confessions at the hands of Israeli forces, Human Rights Watch report reveals. http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/07/20/new-probe-exposes-horrific-child-abuse-israeli-forces

      The zionist state has a widespread culture of rape and it seems as if most of the leaders of the zionist colony are involved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCfpnqKyhHY David Sheen is a reporter and content editor at Haaretz.com.

      Israel’s Palestinian Residents Are Treated as Second-Class Citizens The country’s political leadership is actively enacting laws that ensure a pervasive institutionalized system of discrimination.” Alternet

      A new survey by Pew exposes zionist homophobia. Only 40% of zionist colonists think that the LGBT community should be accepted, versus 88% in Spain.

    • Michael Rush

      here’s some info on the 2005 attack by this same guy …

      Jerusalem’s gay pride marchers attacked / 3 participants stabbed, 13 protesters arrested as ultra-Orthodox crowd tries to halt parade

      2005-07-01 04:00:00 PDT Jerusalem — Violence marred the annual gay pride parade for the first time Thursday when an ultra-Orthodox man broke through heavy security and stabbed three of the participants, leaving them with light to moderate wounds.

      Other protesters, most of them religious Jews, lined the mile-long route of the “Love Without Borders” march through central Jerusalem. Some held placards that read “You are corrupting our children” while others shouted insults. One placard read “Jerusalem is not San Francisco.”

      Thirteen protesters were arrested, including one man who threw a soiled diaper at the marchers then attacked a photographer trying to record the scene.

      Outside the Great Synagogue, where about 100 protesters shouted anti-gay slogans behind a thick police cordon, two members of the Knesset (parliament) tried to stop the march by sitting in the middle of King George V Street, the city’s main thoroughfare. They were eventually dragged away by police.

      The violence — in stark contrast to the peaceful events of previous years — came after attempts by the ultra-Orthodox mayor of Jerusalem, Uri Lupolianski, to ban the march.

      more of this story …

      http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Jerusalem-s-gay-pride-marchers-attacked-3-2624466.php

      • Lumpy Gaga

        OMG, “cultural attache” is a real thing!

  • Mark

    Religion = Mental Illness

    • Bill_Perdue

      This is not a religious question between competing cults any more than the fighting in English occupied NE Ireland is a fight between prot and catholic cultists.

      This is a question of the fight between mainly European colonial interlopers and oppressors and the Palestinians they murder.

  • bkmn

    Whatayahoo stirred the pot of hatred during his last election. He is not that different from Putin in that aspect.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Unlike some of the rethuglicans, he is actually very smart. That’s the danger of him.

      • Ninja0980

        Indeed, he knew how to pull the strings of people and he did so to great effect.

    • Doug105

      I know it won’t happen, but

      • Bill_Perdue

        You’re lying about being neutral.

        Your support for zionism is based on your support for Obama’s wars of aggression to aid US corporations.

        The zionist colonial fortress is the military fallback of last resort for the US when things fall apart for D&R warmongers

  • GarySFBCN

    I’ve always heard about Israel being a good place for LGBTs in the region.

    That it is lurching to the right, embracing religious extremists for political gain, refused to approve same-sex marriage are all troubling.

    But what happened the next morning when religious extemists torched homes and killed a toddler, was ‘revenge’ for a court decision that some Israeli settlements were illegal and had to be destroyed. The minister of education, Naftali Bennett, was ranting and raving, and egging-on the religious extremists. Naftali, a government official.

    So Israel may or may not be a safe place for LGBTs. As long as Palestinians are treated like dirt, as long as people go hungry in the US but we can send billions of aid to Israel, as long as the right-wing is in charge of that country that is almost a theocracy, I won’t be setting one foot in the cesspool.

    Fuck Israel.

    • BrandySpears

      And the correlation between the two incidents is as ludicrous as comparing a gay bashing in NYC to a mosque burning in the Tennessee.

      • Clungeflaps

        looks like we have a butthurt apologist here.

        • Schlukitz

          Says the misogynist who is obsessed with vaginas and butts.

      • Merv99

        The correlation is that both incidents were perpetrated by right-wing settlers. That group has for a long time been the biggest obstacle to peace in the region.

        • Bill_Perdue

          Not entirely. This is not just a question of the iniquity of extremist cultists. The central goal of the zionist bunkerstadt is to use terror to steal land and enforce apartheid. They’ve never varied from that.

          This is a question of the iniquity of a colonial invasion by zionists supported and sponsored by colonial powers like the English, the US and France. The state they created and supported is a colonial interloper steeped in racism against Palestinians Arabs, muslims and Africans. It’s a state with a rape culture and one that emphasizes the murder of children, as we saw last year when these same thugs burned a boy alive and when IDF thugs targeted schools and children playing on the beach for mass murder.

          The violence will not end until the zionist colonial state is dissolved and the system of apartheid ended with due compensation for the slave labor practices of the zionists. It won’t end until the millions of Palestinians who have been forced off their land can return and reclaim their lands and business.

      • Schlukitz

        Connect the dots.

    • Ninja0980

      LGBT Jews maybe.
      LGBT Arabs on the other hand…

  • BrandySpears

    Israel could develop a cure for AIDS tomorrow and the loons would scream “pinkwashing”.

    • Bill_Perdue

      Insane people are people who like it when children are burned alive, target at play and targeted in their schools.

      Insane people are racists who think European colonists are superior to Palestinians and that it’s ok to commit mass murder, engage in an apartheid system far, far worse than the one in South Africa and to steal land.

      • BrandySpears

        Pinkwashing – a word used by pseudo-leftist lunatics to smear the Jewish state and to hide the barbaric treatment of LGBT persons living under Islamist loons.

        • Bill_Perdue

          Pinkwashing is a term used by anti-racists all over the world to counter the argument that the existence of LGBT folks in the zionist bunkerstaat is an excuse for mass murder, apartheid and land theft. Those are the only policies that zionists have regarding Palestinians.

          • JT

            In other words, as blinkered ideological pseudoleftists have done for decades, it’s a tool to demean the importance of gay rights.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Why do you support mass murder, apartheid and land theft.

          • JT

            I rest my case.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You don’t have a case, just your racist views.

          • JT

            Clearly, the case never needs to rest with you. You just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You don’t have a case, just your racist views.

          • JT

            sic

          • Bill_Perdue

            You don’t have a case, just your racist outlook which is based on your rabid support for Obama’s racist wars of aggression against Arab and muslims to make US corporations richer.

            Disgusting.

          • JT

            sic

          • Bill_Perdue

            Your racist outlook is based on your rabid support for Obama’s wars of aggression against Arab and muslims to make US corporations richer.

          • JT

            You’re an ideological psychopath.

          • Bill_Perdue

            No so. I oppose the ravening racism you promote. The racist war of ethnic cleansing that you admire so against Palestinians began in 1948 with the murders at Deir Yassin and has continued at hundred of other sites since.

            That, and earlier zionist incursions under English rule are the only history pertinent to this discussion.

            “The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian Arab village of roughly 600 people. The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem by Palestinian Arab forces during thecivil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine.[1] The residents resisted the attack, and the village fell only after fierce house-to-house fighting.

            107 villagers were killed during and after the battle for the village, including women and children—some were shot, while others died when hand grenades were thrown into their homes.[2] Several villagers were taken prisoner and may have been killed after being paraded through the streets of West Jerusalem…”

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

          • JT

            As I said, you’re an ideological psychopath. What’s more, you have no understanding of distinctions, you lie and you are as authoritarian as a christofascist.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Tell us your real name so we can watch you on Fox.

          • JT

            Yeah, right. Have you got their check yet this week?

          • Bill_Perdue

            The scum at Fox are racists and pro-zionists just like you.

          • JT

            *********************
            I’m starring this for future reference. You are deeply off the wall.

  • Clungeflaps

    Why didn’t the Roma get their own country? They arguably suffered more than the jews during the Holocaust, and continue to have a pretty bad time of it in Europe.

    Your average European who fancies himself liberal still think that Roma are sub-human. Seems like Jewish people got pretty generous treatment with being given Israel.

    • Octavio

      How insightful. Why don’t you tell us all about it.

      • Clungeflaps

        You can ask your mates in Barcelona (Eurotrash version of Daytona Beach) what they think of Roma people, and then we can see how progressive and enlightened europeans really are.

        • Octavio

          Do go on. You seem to be so fabulously informed. I’ve got lots more rope if you need it.

          • Clungeflaps

            thanks for admitting that im right.

          • Octavio

            I’m not admitting that you’re right. However, you most definitely are a fatuous asshole who flaunts pedestrian racist logic.

          • Clungeflaps

            you are the one that’s racist, coming up with apologetic excuses for europeans discriminatory attitudes.

          • Schlukitz

            A copy and paste of a comment by Clungeflaps a day ago.

            Clungeflaps Schlukitz • a day ago

            Sorry you are butthurt by the truth.

            Oh and ‘German’ isn’t a race, you muppet.

            I rest my case. LOL

          • Octavio

            He’s such a special snowflake. 🙂

          • Schlukitz

            Isn’t he, though? LOL

          • Wow, who is this guy? He has been infecting us for a few days now. Hopefully we have medicine that can clear this up.

          • Schlukitz

            It’s not his first visit to the rodeo.

            He is a pompous, bloviating, idiot who seems totally obsessed with vaginas (his user name) and butts.

        • GarySFBCN

          You are full of shit. 60% of Spaniards accept the Roma people, and the percent was higher before the 2008 global financial crisis which had unemployment as high as 27% in Spain.

          As for Barcelona, it is one of the truly great cities in the world. But I’m sure wherever you’re from is much better.

          • Schlukitz

            I had the distinct pleasure of visiting that wonderful city back in the 80s. I was quite impressed with it.

            One has to wonder, given his degrading comment about Barcelona, if he has actually ever been there or even bothered to access any information about it?

          • GarySFBCN

            Barcelona was transformed into a more modern city in 1992 when they hosted the Olympics. But it is still a wonderful place for most.

          • Clungeflaps

            Wrong, Barcelona is a tacky, low rent tourist trap now, for binge drinking russians and english, puking off of balconies. I rank it maybe half a notch above Branson as far as culture goes. I wouldn’t be caught dead there now. 20 years ago it was OK. Vigo, San Sebastian, and Valencia haven’t been ruined yet by tourism. Portugal is still great, but probably only has about 5 years left.

          • Schlukitz

            Damn those airlines who make it so ridiculously easy to “invade” other countries to learn about their cultures and drag millions of dollars along with them to aid their economies in the process.

            Their oughtta be a law!

    • Fyva Prold

      Do they want their own country? Do they ask for land? For all you know, they can just settle back in India; that’s where they came from.

  • TMA

    “The New York Post published an op-ed…” should always be followed with a round of howling laughter.

    • Octavio

      Agreed. The New York Post’s op-ed pool is full of deep thinkers.

  • joe ho

    And the attack had nothing to do with Judaism, just like Isil has nothing to do with Islam.

    Just ask Reza Aslan, Karen Armstrong, and the other religious apologists who pretend that religious ideology does not motivate behavior.

    • skeptical_inquirer

      I’m betting a lot of his fellow Ultra-Orthodox men feel the same way about not being under Israel’s jurisdiction but only their version of their God.

      I’ve NEVER liked the fact that the Ultra-Orthodox who are paid to study and get out of doing the two-year stint in the army actually look down upon the people who fight to protect the country, even other Ultra-Orthodox men who volunteer to fight when they don’t have to.

  • JCF

    Generally speaking, if the New York Post is agin’ it, then conversely I’m…

  • Kissmagrits

    How long before progressive, 21st Century Israelis take back their country from those who continue to wallow in victimhood, fear and brutal retribution? And is Israel a loyal ally of the U.S. or are we just the suckers with the checkbook?

    As Carl Sagan used to intone on “Cosmos”, “Billions and billions and billions”. He meant stars and I refer to dollars.

    • RoFaWh

      I can’t help but think that this incident may very well lead to the ultras losing a lot of their privileges, particularly living off the public tittie so they can spend their time pontificating to one another about the most minor details of Torah and Talmud. Ditto their exemption from military service.

      • skeptical_inquirer

        I think most Israelis are pretty fed up with this crap. The only reason they get traction is that teeny religious parties are often the few points need to form a majority. That’s part of the problem with Parliamentary governments dependent on coalitions.

        • RoFaWh

          It’s not the coalition that’s the fundamental problem; it’s proportional representation that gives tiny parties with one sitting member the leverage to demand and demand and demand…and get, get, get.

          Australia has the same problem.

          • Stev84

            Proportional representation is the way to go in a proper democracy. First past the post is undemocratic insanity in most cases.
            Britain manages to make it work, but it has been a complete failure in the US. And even though Britain still retains a multi-party system, the parties with more votes still gain a vastly disproportionate amount of seats.

            The key is to introduce a threshold to actually enter parliament. For example a party needs to achieve x% of votes or a certain amount of seats. That keeps out tiny parties and means the the ones in represent a decent amount of the electorate.

            Israel has a threshold of 3,25%, which is very low.

      • BudClark

        It certainly exposes them for who they really are, and don’t give me any bullshit about “the majority of the Haredi aren’t violent.” They’re thugs and gangsters in NYC; they’re thugs and gangsters in Jerusalem.

    • Olterigo

      Perhaps when the Palestinian Arabs stop attacking Israeli civilians. You want to know why Israelis keep reelecting Netanyahu? Because in 2004, Israel gave to Palestinians Gaza, pulling out everything – including the Jewish graves. (only leaving the greenhouses, which were immediately destroyed by Gazans). What did they get back? Thousands of Hamas rockets (not even counting the 3 wars there), even before Israel closed off its border with Gaza.

      Israel also exited from Lebanon. What did it get back? A war with Hezbollah. So…

      Considering this history and what’s going on all around the Middle East, I doubt Israelis will agree or be forced into creating an independent Palestine within ’67 borders for the next decade as this would endanger the vast majority of Israel’s population and financial center.

      • Bill_Perdue

        You make the same tired racist comments over and over.

        Palestinians are defending themselves from mass murder by zionist thugs, a historical reality since Deir Yassin, and since repeated innumerable times.

        “The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian Arab village of roughly 600 people. The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem by Palestinian Arab forces during thecivil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine.[1] The residents resisted the attack, and the village fell only after fierce house-to-house fighting.

        107 villagers were killed during and after the battle for the village, including women and children—some were shot, while others died when hand grenades were thrown into their homes.[2] Several villagers were taken prisoner and may have been killed after being paraded through the streets of West Jerusalem…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

        • Olterigo

          Weh, weh, weh. It’s the same argument, because the Palestinians and Arabs more generally have not learned to do anything new. They attack Israeli civilians, but when hit back, they cry foul.

          • Bill_Perdue

          • Olterigo

            Until they give up on the idea of murdering Jews and destroying Israel, they won’t have their own state.

          • Olterigo

            It is amusing to me that you are quoting Nelson Mandela, who supported a 2-state solution, where one of the states is the Jewish state of Israel, whereas you call others with same belief racists. LOL.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Mandela supported freedom for Palestinians, not your apartheid baby buntings, ethnic cleansing and land theft.

            That’s your program and you’re a racist.

          • Olterigo

            Mandela supported a two-state solution with a Jewish state continuing its existence. No matter how many times you try to pretend like that is false, it won’t become so just because you wish it.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I didn’t deny anything, racist, I said that Mandela was for freedom for Palestine, and that cannot be accomplished as long as the zionist colony has a military and it cannot be accomplished until the millions of Palestinians in exile can return and claim their land.

          • Olterigo

            Sure, Bill, pretending like you don’t know what will happen if those millions of Palestinians will return into Israel proper… as if that would not contradict what Mandela was saying.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Ii know exactly what will happen, the same thing that happened in Algeria.

            They’ll get their land back.

            That’s freedom.

          • Olterigo

            If they think they will be allowed into Israel proper to destroy it as a Jewish state, they’re mistaken. In that case, they can continue to enjoy the freedoms they enjoy in the Arab states.

          • Bill_Perdue

            They will return and reclaim the lands stolen by colonists. That’s freedom.

          • Olterigo

            Won’t be happening, Bill. Israeli Jews won’t be committing a national suicide.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I wasn’t talking about colonists.

          • Olterigo

            So, how will the Arabs do it? And will it happen before or after the workers’ revolution?

  • BeaverTales

    I don’t trust the criminal justice system to adequately punish an Orthodox Jew in a crime against gays. He’ll get the lightest, cushiest sentence possible….and visits from ultradox Rabbis to congratulate him on his devotion to Gawd.

    • JT

      They already reduced his first sentence, so they deserve suspicion.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    You just know this terrifying video gives monsters like Tony PerKKKins and Scott Lively heart palpitations as they try to conceal their predatory glee. Those who preach hate non-stop cannot escape culpability when crazies like this nutjob finally act out on their relentless hate-mongering. They are responsible, too! And they won’t care, unless they are held to account.

  • zhera

    I hate it when there’s an article about Israel or Palestine here. With no exception the conversation is reduced to shit throwing and accusations of racism from both camps.
    Here’s a little reminder for you all, whether you’ve been caught up in the arguing or not:

    It is possible to be critical of the Israeli government and policy without being antisemittic. (Semites include Palestinians, btw.)

    It is possible to be critical of Palestinian government etc. without being racist.
    It is also possible to be critical of a specific religion without being FOR another religion, AND without being racist.
    This kind of arguing seen here every time Israel/Palestine comes up is like a ‘My dad is stronger than your dad’ in reverse: My enemy is worse than your enemy.
    Can’t we just agree that they all suck and need to get better?

    • leastyebejudged

      Well, that’s the Zionist method of media control, to consistently accuse anyone that points out that the international crimes of Zionism have little to nothing to do with Jewishness and everything to do with just plain being a shithead.

  • noni

    Religious Freedom to impose one’s own religion on everyone else.

    And feeling so free to do so, you eventually decide you can stab and kill those who don’t obey.

    In multiple episodes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k37d6fiQG8s

    • skeptical_inquirer

      If the Ultras want a bus segregated that way, they can fund their own private bus line catering to them. They just can’t get everybody else subsidizing their bigotry.

  • I’d have WRUNG that Fucker’s Neck & BE in jail for It before now!

  • leastyebejudged

    Whenever there’s any public outcry against Zionist terrorism, the hired guns in the media come out in droves. At least it’s an obvious contrivance.

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    The religious zealots have been out in droves this week in Israel. This mad stabber, the colonists / arsonists / murderers in Gaza, the trigger-happy police. That even got Netanyahu to condemn the attacks… faut le faire. FSM knows he is no friend of ours and of the Palestinians.

    Religious fundamentalism is a huge problem worldwide, not just in the US.

    • Schlukitz

      faut le faire. Perfect description.

      Netanyahu must have choked on his own words as he spoke them.

      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        It would have been nice if he literally had. He is the main obstacle to any progress in peace initiatives in that region.

        • zhera

          Remember back in the 90’s when there was hope for peace and progress?
          It was the extremists on both sides that ruined that.

  • Tom (Winnipeg)

    Religious fanatics are truly the most dangerous, uncivilized people on the planet, in many ways.

  • noni
    • Schlukitz

      Misogynistic and homophobic, male dominated society.

  • noni

    Sadly the authorities can’t distinguish between the perp’s religion and his mental illness so they have to go with religious freedom.

  • NYC GUY

    …..

    • leastyebejudged

  • leastyebejudged

    Israel is a beacon of gay rights ?

    I LOL’d until soda came out of my nose

  • DaveMiller135

    “During yesterday’s arraignment the deranged attacker declared that he does not recognize the authority of Israel’s legal system as he was acting under orders from God.”

    That’s alright, dear. It’s like Satan; it’s enough that he believes in you.