ISRAEL: Jerusalem Pride Attacker Refuses To Recognize Authority Of Legal System

Haaretz reports:

Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court extended the remand of Yishai Schlissel for an additional 12 days on Friday, after he allegedly stabbed six participants in the city’s Gay Pride Parade on Thursday. Schlissel – an ultra-Orthodox Jew who had served 10 years in prison for an identical attack in 2005 – refused to accept the court’s jurisdiction and represented himself at the hearing. “I do not accept this court’s authority. This court does not follow the rules of the holy Torah,” Schlissel said at the hearing. “This court is part of the mechanism of evil. I have no interest in cooperating at all. I do not recognize any of the regime’s institutions.”

Judge Chana Miriam Lomp ruled in favor of the police’s request for extending Schlissel’s remand, citing the danger he posed to society, the severity of the crimes attributed to him and his past offenses. After stabbing three people at the Pride Parade a decade ago, Schlissel, then 40, from Modi’in Ilit, was convicted of attempted murder and aggravated assault. He was sentenced to 12 years in prison for the 2005 attack. However, in 2007, following an appeal, the Supreme Court reduced his sentence to 10 years.

Israeli police said late yesterday that they will conduct an internal probe into their failure to protect parade participants.

Since being released from prison, Jerusalem District Intelligence flagged Schlissel as someone who was liable to act against members of the gay community. However, these intelligence assessments did not specifically refer to Schlissel targeting this year’s parade. The Israel Prison Service informs the police about prisoners who complete their sentences or are released on furlough using a computerized system. The system is updated every eight hours and provides general information. It was put in place primarily to alert the police to the release of abusive husbands who may seek to attack their wives again.

The police’s intelligence coordinators are therefore aware when inmates go free. But if the convicts aren’t identified as dangerous, no one is assigned to analyze their data and ask the important questions: Did they undergo a process of rehabilitation? Did they express regret over their crimes? Are there signs that point to the likelihood that they will resume criminal activity? Schlissel appears to have announced his intentions in leaflets distributed in his hometown of Modiin Illit shortly before the event, residents said.

Police had been told to be on the alert for Ultra-Orthodox men “masquerading” as secular Israelis, yet Schlissel had been allowed to freely enter the parade in his full Haredi outfit.

  • JT

    I wonder if Netanyahoo will now keep watch over this crazy.

    Police had been told to be on the alert for Ultra-Orthodox men “masquerading” as secular Israelis, yet Schlissel had been allowed to freely enter the parade in his full Haredi outfit.

    I guess the police thought his outfit was a Pride costume? Unbelievable.

  • Stev84

    The only thing these parasites recognize is the money they get from the state for doing nothing.

  • Bluto

    Death & destruction = holy & good, Living peacefully with our fellow human beings = evil. Thanks, religion.

  • Gustav2

    Liberty Law to the rescue!

    • JT

      Now that would be funny. They would be saying things like Jeebus this and Jeebus that and would only realize who they were talking to from the disgruntled looks they got.

      • lattebud

        “Jesus says we need Israel so he will return again and destroy the non-believers, like the Jews. We love our Jewish brothers though.”

        • RoFaWh

          Sadly, that is exactly the kind of insane “thinking” murrican fundagelicals engage in.

          They are past masters of the empty apology, the tired phrase, the worn out platitude and they don’t care if anything they say makes sense or not.

  • bryan

    Another martyr for the religious right : His religious freedom, to randomly stab gay people in the back, is being attacked.

    • crewman

      He demonstrates the penultimate of entitled religious thinking. He doesn’t recognize the law of the land he’s in. His personal interpretation of the religion he chose is the law he acknowledges. He told the city to not hold the parade, the city allowed it anyway, and he was determined to punish them for disobeying him.

      • ScottJL

        All he’s missing is “God told me to do this.”

      • YakHerder

        One quibble: “penultimate” doesn’t mean “very ultimate”. It means “next to last.”

        • The ultimate is when he claims to be “Speaking For G-d” (or “Being G-d” or “Being the Mosiach”); so it can be penultimate.

          • crewman

            I agree with your comment Joann, but YakHerder was right. I had the wrong understanding of the word and really meant to say “ultimate”.

          • Honesty is great, and I appreciate your willingness to admit the word usage! I figured that I would point out an interpretation that could make the use of “penultimate” correct.

            I picked up the whole ultimate/penultimate/antepenultimate terminology thing back when I was taking Latin as a high school freshman – last, next-to-last, and next-to-next-to-last – and it had something to do with accentuating syllables for pronunciation.

          • RoFaWh

            I’ll see your penultimate and raise you antepenultimate.

          • RoFaWh

            JMG comments: a very good place to eradicate vocabulary and spelling mistakes.

            I used to like to sprinkle toy French on my writing, notably the phrase “bon mot”, but someone (not here) pointed out that the right phrase given my usage is “mot juste”. I have given up using toy French before I make any bigger a fool of myself.

          • YakHerder

            “The More You Know” 🙂 Seriously though, great comment in general. You nailed it.

    • Gigi

      #persecution

    • Doug105
  • Gustav2

    “This court is part of the mechanism of evil. I have no interest in cooperating at all. I do not recognize any of the regime’s institutions.”

    Because you have to study the Torah all day and won’t get a job, do you cash your welfare check? Isn’t that recognizing at least one of the regime’s institutions?

    • uhhuhh

      Right! OMG the regime that gives this useless lazy fucker a welfare check.

    • No Religion Too

      Answer: Yes, Cash That Check. Even crazy bitches get hawngry.

      They seriously need to medicate this fucker.

      And, as a matter of hygiene, I am totally in favor of requiring all inmates to be clean shaven, chin to skull. SCOTUS totally dropped the ball on this issue, allowing a “religious accommodation” to convicts. The public should demand that all religion be removed from prisons, and that government resources not be used to fund religious proselytization or other religious activities of any kind.

      • Reality.Bites

        Yes, by all means, let’s do meaningless things to make prisoners ANGRY.

      • CottonBlimp

        I feel where you’re coming from, but it’s not a good idea. In western Europe, in countries like France, prisons often interfere with the practice of Islam, sometimes even banning prisoners from worshipping publicly. Because of this, the prisoners organize privately, in prayers led by violent criminals instead of milquetoast prisoner-approved clerics. This is thought to be an explanation for France’s big problem with domestic Islamic terrorism.

    • After reading Schlissel’s screed this morning I thought we might have finally learned the true identity of one of our compatriot commenters.

  • Harry Underwood

    A “sovereign citizen” in Israel. Who’da thought?

  • GarySFBCN
    • Porkie

      there are no words – religion corrupts.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    Those that refuse to follow civil laws because of their mythological beliefs don’t know their own mythology very well. They also do not recognize the changes in culture and the fact that we are no longer live in small tribal communities. Studying one book to the exclusion of every other book is madness. As we have seen over and over.

    Religious extremists, no matter their flavor of faith are dangerous.

  • oikos

    The only difference between this ‘sovereign citizen’ and one here is his choice of Abrahamic religious delusions.

    • Reality.Bites

      Well he’s advanced enough to not recognize the civil authority. In the U.S. they think they ARE the civil authority.

      • oikos

        We have few here, all gun nuts, etc. My friend that works for ATF says they among the worst criminals he deals with.

    • B Snow

      And there, he had a knife. Over here, he’ll have a gun.

  • bkmn

    Let’s send Orly Taitz to represent him. Wouldn’t want him to represent himself.

    • oikos

      Liberty counsel. With their track record there is no way he could ̶l̶o̶s̶e̶ win.

  • Michael Rush

    he didn’t learn much his first 10 years in jail , don’t expect much from this fool .

  • uhhuhh

    Ban all the Ultra-Orthodox public leeches from the parade.

  • Jan Wesselius

    Yishai Schlissel and Judge Moore ought to get together, Neither recognize the authority of the legal system of the country in which they live.

  • MBear

    refuses to accept the authority of tweezers

    • TheManicMechanic

      Or soap.

  • Steven Leahy

    Wow, he’s just like our religious nutcases!

  • Wellington

    Closet gay, I bet.

    • RoFaWh

      My diagnosis is insanity, pure and simple.

      Induced insanity, at that.

    • JCF

      Ah, so THAT’S why he was in such a hurry to go back to prison!

  • Pete

    There they go again…these orthodox are exempt from Israeli military service so they can spend all their time praying and studying the Talmud, their beliefs motivate the theft of Palestinian lands with the creation of all the settlements, their beliefs suppress the human rights of Palestinians, and their beliefs are trying to sabotage the nuclear accord with Iran (let’s remember that Israel is a nuclear power), and their beliefs award citizenship to spy Jonathan Pollard , even making him an Israeli citizen while in jail ! Just how is Israel our “friend”? Evidently all the money given to this DEVELOPED country has not been sufficient to buy friendship.

    • Piet

      The ultraorthodox don’t recognize Israel’s right to exist, just like their Palestinian neighbors. Doesn’t stop them from cashing the checks, though.

  • JohnoFr

    Should get him in prison quick for some good lovin’ !!

  • goygayguy

    he is the messiah!
    he is the messiah!
    he is the messiah!
    jewish people have a brand new messiah 😉

  • Polterguest

    Yishai,
    You can go and stab all the gay people you can get away with. You aren’t going to cut the homosexual out of you by doing do. It doesn’t work that way.

  • chris james

    In a nation like Israel with solders and police armed to the teeth with automatic weapons this situation begs an answer: why is an orthodox Jew armed with a knife not treated like an Arab armed with a knife? The Arab would have been shot dead on the spot. Americans should recognize this as very much like our race issues.

    • Kenneth Hwang

      Racial Discrimination, of course. And the Haredim pride themselves as the ones who are upholding the tenets of the religious righteousness by spending years studying Torah and not working.

  • Capritaur

    His actions may have been extreme, but his ideology isn’t as uncommon among some Jewish sects. History is thoroughly lost on some people.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Extreme religious nuts commit the most inhuman acts, (again and again). Especially extremists of the monotheistic faiths. There is some pathway in our flawed brains that leads some people inexorably to delusional beliefs AND a propensity for dehumanizing “the other” to the extent that such unbridled cruelty becomes possible. In a flawed, violence-prone mind, religion poisons everything.

  • Bj Lincoln

    ALL religious extremists are mentally ill! When will governments, doctors and prisons recognize them as very sick individuals?! That man should have never been let out. I hope they see this as a failure on their part for not recognizing how mentally ill this man is.

  • guest

    Good thing he’s not in the US because it would have been an automatic firearm not a knife.

  • lattebud

    Where does he think he lives that he doesn’t have to follow the law of the land? Alabama?

    • Dale082

      Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! 🙂

  • John Masters

    “I do not accept this court’s authority. This court does not follow the rules of the holy Torah,” Schlissel said at the hearing. “This court is part of the mechanism of evil. I have no interest in cooperating at all. I do not recognize any of the regime’s institutions.”
    Now where have I heard that kind of language before?

    • Steverino

      As if this self-appointed judge, jury, and executioner is following the “rules of the holy Torah,” himself. And yes, a mindset much like christianists.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    “I do not accept this court’s authority. This court does not follow the rules of the holy Torah.” Sounds exactly like our Teavangelicals.

    • MattM

      Yeah except the Israeli government is probably going to get him the mental health treatment he needs. Or at least keep him away from secular society so as not to maim any more people.

      Our Teavangelicals are actually going to continue to be allowed to stab at us for decades to come.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        WWJS – Who Would Jesus Stab

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Or at least keep him away from secular society so as not to maim any more people.

        He’s been remanded for an additional 12 DAYS. That’s 5 days less than the flipside of “When Doves Cry”.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Lock him up. Throw away the key, please.

    • Schlukitz

      In this case, the Schlisl.

  • TMA

    Disgusting country with a disgusting, racist people.

  • Marides48

    Give him 30 years to think about the court’s authority. He’ll be in hie 80’s by the time he get’s released into the real world again.

    • Chuck in NYC

      Better give him 50. I have an 85 year old mother who is still fully capable of using a knife. Fortunately she restricts it to the kitchen.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    So, he’s like those “sovereign citizen” nuts.

    • Stev84

      This is hardly surprising for the Ultra-Orthodox. They don’t like Israel as a state to put it mildly.

      • NancyP

        One does wonder how long the rest of the Israeli population will put up with the ultra-haredim. The haredim don’t serve in the military, don’t perform alternate service (at least the men don’t), sit around on welfare for a long time, much longer than it would take to get a college degree. I suspect that the parliamentary system magnifies the political power of the haredim, in that they can function as a swing group that must be placated.

  • JustSayin’

    Sounds like Roy “I can ignore you because my god says so” Moore

  • billbear1961

    When did he join “Liberty” Counsel, NOM, the “Family Research” Council, et al?

  • PiperPine

    Oh of course he doesn’t recognize the authority of the secular courts. There is not a sigh big enough to cover my annoyance.

  • Octavio

    You can see the crazy in his eyes. The sister of shooter in the LA movie theatre said of her brother, “A few weeks ago his eyes changed.” And we all know about Michele Bachmann’s eyes. :o)

    • BobSF_94117

      The crazy eyes are probably because he assumed the crowd was going to sodomize him.

      • Octavio

        Nope. I’ve seen the crazy in lots of people’s eyes who are off their meds, actually possessed with uncontrollable anger, hate, and just regular every day crazy. That poor soul is fucking unglued. He’s lost any contact with his humanity. You see that same look in the eyes of the uber zealous religious nut jobs all of the time.

        • BobSF_94117

          I was being snarky, but you’re right. He has the look of those “possessed by the spirit” (to borrow a fundie Protestant term). I can see how witnessing that sort of emotion in another person would be noteworthy. What I can’t grasp is why some would think, “Oh, yeah, he’s onto something!!! Let’s do what he says!!!!!”.

          • Octavio

            Yeah. Definitely not interested in smoking what he’s been smoking. !!!!!

  • motordog

    I admit, I’m not up on Torah…I have met Tova (Borgnine), and she was lovely.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    He can “reject” all he wants, won’t do him any good.
    He will still face six counts of attempted murder.
    And those who tolerate and enable monsters like this, are also morally complicit.

  • ScottChicago

    These ultra orthodox in Israel dont recognize the state of Israel becsusrvthey believe Israel can only be ruled by the messiah. Yet they are certainly willing to benefit from the housing and other state benefits Israel provides.

  • DaveMiller135

    Religion doesn’t necessarily make you a nutcase, but it sure can help.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Wait a minute. 12 DAYS?

    He’s let loose on the streets in <2 weeks?

    • James

      I doubt they’re going to let him go. My guess is they haven’t formally charged him yet, so they’ve been given an additional 12 days to figure out what charges to lay.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Doesn’t reckanize seckular gubmint.

    Color me shocked.

  • Dead Giveaway

    There was a muslim terrorist in Canada that tried the same defense. It didn’t go well for him.

  • Trevor Brown

    Israel should extradite him to oh…I don’t know…Iran for trial then.

  • dws3665

    He should run for County Clerk in Kentucky.

  • JCF

    “This court is part of the mechanism of evil.”

    Rubber/Glue, muthaf#cka.

  • AT2016

    Seems he enjoys prison. Good riddance.

  • DaveMiller135

    I think even Crocodile Dundee would agree that that’s a knife. How do you get off for attempted murder with only 12 years in prison? You get to go out and live your life again, because you failed at murderizing someone, or several someones?

  • Good. Send him to Syria and let Isis have him.

  • Robert Adams

    I wonder where puny men get the arrogance to think that their supposedly omnipotent omniscient god needs help from them.