Evil Alabama Mother Still Won’t Let Dead Son’s Husband Have His Estate

Remember Patricia Fancher, the evil Alabama mother who hired the Foundation For Moral Law to petition SCOTUS to keep her former son-in-law, Paul Hard, from inheriting his dead husband’s estate? Despite the Obergefell ruling, she is still fighting. From the FML’s executive director Matthew Kidd:

“The issue is not whether someone may marry a member of the same sex today. The issue is whether a court may or should look back four years and recognize a marriage that was not legally valid. Of course, if the marriage is recognized it will only cause further economic harm to a family which has already lost one its own. And if recognized, this man will be awarded an entire spousal share of the wrongful death proceeds which would be unjust even under normal circumstances considering the two were ‘married’ less than 3 months.”

From FML president Kayla Moore, wife of Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore:

“It is outrageous that five unelected lawyers on the U.S. Supreme Court think they can invalidate a constitutional amendment adopted by 81% of Alabama voters in 2006, on the flimsy ground that violates a so-called ‘right’ found nowhere in the Constitution. It adds insult to injury to contend that this so-called ‘right’ should be applied retroactively to matters that should have been settled long ago.”

Back in November 2014 the Social Security Administration advised Paul Hard that since he and his late husband were not married “under the laws of Alabama,” he is not eligible for federal death benefits. In February 2015, when same-sex marriage first became legal in Alabama, Paul Hard was granted an amended death certificate declaring him to have
been the legal spouse of his late husband. That’s when Hard’s evil
former mother-in-law employed the FML in an attempt
to thwart Hard’s receipt of his share of the settlement in a wrongful
death suit filed following his late husband’s car accident. According to yesterday’s press release, the FML is now claiming that Obergefell does not retroactively apply to unsettled legal actions. Not incidentally, the FML openly advocates for replacing the government of the United States with a Christian theocracy ruled by “biblical law.”

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    I suppose it never occurred to this “mother” that she could have gained a son when her son married, or when her son fell in love with the man he eventually married. I guess her hate was larger than her love. Her loss. These men were legally married in a state that had same sex marriage on the books. I don’t see how she could win this case.

    • Todd20036

      She can’t. On some level she knows it. You answered your own question: her hatred of all things gay (including her own son) is far greater than any love she ever actually had for her son.

      In other words, she’s a typical Christian.

      • OrliJoe in Fla

        The hate and spitefulness is off the scale here. She must lead a very miserable life.

        • Reality.Bites

          I certainly hope so.

        • Cat Feeesh

          Will somebody start a gofundme site for Paul?

        • Todd20036

          She despised her son and now her son’s memory.
          I’d say her life is pretty miserable just from what we can see of it.

          • Chucktech

            Oh, gee, I dunno how miserable she is. She knows her gawd approves of this so she’s going to heaven, so how bad can it be for her?

      • j.martindale

        I understand where you are coming from. However, my parents were devout Christians. But they never let their faith become an obstacle which prevented them from demonstrating love for their gay son. I think it takes a certain kind of meanness and greed, as well as a lack of parental love, to act the way this woman is acting. There are many Christian mothers and fathers–probably most–who would be appalled by this behavior.

        Moore, on the other hand, is a simple c*nt.

      • Wynter Marie Starr

        How very sad for her, Todd. I don’t know if she has other children, but to throw away a child for something that is innate is monstrous.

        • ZhyKitty

          To throw away your child is monstrous.
          Period.
          There is nothing one of mine could do that would make me turn my back on them. Nothing. I’ve told them all, even if one of them wakes up naked in a McDonalds, covered in blood and honey mustard, surrounded by bodies, including nuns, a bus full of disabled elderly folks, and a troop of dead girl scouts….call me before you do ANYTHING.
          Mama will always have your back.

          • Amanda B. Rekendwith

            You have such a way with words!
            🙂

          • ZhyKitty

            Thank you, Ms. Amanda!

          • Todd20036

            Oh please, that’s a typical weekend in DC.

          • ZhyKitty

            You are a handful, Todd, and would no doubt have turned my hair grey before you were 15, had you been my son. lol

          • Reality.Bites

            But then he’d have dyed it back for you.

          • Bluto

            rAmen, Miss Kitty.

          • ZhyKitty

            RAmen, Bluto.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            LOL, I tell my kids something similar, Zhykitty. I also could not imagine distancing myself from my children for any reason. I love them beyond reason.

            I agree that throwing your children away for any reason is monstrous, but doing so for something they are born with seems especially horrible.

          • ZhyKitty

            It is. It’s utterly sociopathic.

          • fuow

            That’s because you are that best of all possible people from Mother Nature’s (and my) perspective: A true mother.

          • ZhyKitty

            Flatterer! lol
            That’s just how all mothers should be.
            Every child deserves a mother that would throw herself in between them and any harm, and love them no matter what.
            That should just be par for the course.

          • Reality.Bites

            McDonald’s, sure. But what if it’s a Chik-fil-A?

          • ZhyKitty

            Even then! No matter what!!!
            (Though the talking to they received while we moved all the bodies and cleaned the building might be less harsh if it were dead chic fil a customers we were disposing of.)

          • Ed Burrow

            ok yea…a McDonalds.
            But what it it’s a Burger King with priests instead of nuns? then what?

        • MBear

          you spelling christian wrong

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            LOL, my spelling has always sucked.

        • Mark

          At least – if she has any other kids – they can now all see that “Mom” will feign “approval” – but holy shit watch out if there is a buck to be had….

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            That’s an old story and I’d be willing to bet every single person you meet can tell a story about family and money.

            I guess what gets me the most here is that the mother and her dead son’s husband could have comforted each other in different circumstances. I can’t imagine losing any of my kids, but having another person who loved them could help ease that pain a bit. If she does have other children, I’d go out on a limb and say the relationships aren’t close.

          • ZhyKitty

            My heart goes out to all of them, but of course, most especially to the son she was given when her other son married him…the one she was too foolish and selfish to see as the gift that he was to her. Horrible woman…may she receive all the life lessons she so desperately needs, and so richly deserves.

      • John Sherwood Jr

        Her hatred of her son didn’t outweigh her love of the money she got from his death.

      • Oh’behr

        a typical Alabama Christian?

        I know of other parents who honor their gay son’s estates.

  • Gene

    ok….this is…1) fucking sick. Get upset if anyone wants to…but, any woman who is like this is NOT a mom or mother…just a C$nt who deserves to die alone and unloved in a dirty nursing home.
    2) WHO will be deciding this case? it seems it should be settled…just what legal roadblocks are being put in place to stop the transfer of funds to the widower? If ANY of the legal decisions are to be decided by Moore or ANHYONE who works under him, that person should immediately withdraw from the case due to obvious bias/animus. Does anyone have any more details? and, while I am sure its probably not possible…how do we help? who do we call? etc….thanks

  • KnownDonorDad

    FML…what a wonderfully appropriate set of initials.

    [T]he FML openly advocates for replacing the government of the United States with a Christian theocracy ruled by “biblical law.”

    How is this not sedition, again?

    • dcurlee

      If it were run by biblical law I’m sure she would have been stoned to death by now

      • KnownDonorDad

    • JW Swift

      Beat me to it. It struck me as pretty funny, also that the Foundation for Moral Law and the phrase Fuck[-up] My Life have the very same acronym.

  • Randy Left Brooklyn

    There was a will that made the surviving spouse the sole beneficiary of the estate. However, under Alabama law any lawsuit proceeds are distributed under the laws for people who die without a will, which would grant the first 100 K to the spouse, then an equal split between the mom and spouse of the rest. We are talking about getting $325,000 for the spouse. The mom still gets $225,000 if the spouse wins, $550,000 if the spouse loses.

    The mom sounds just charming. It speaks volumes that the dead guy set up his will so that his spouse was supposed to get everything. And they may have only been married 3 months in Massachusetts, but clearly they were together for a lot longer than that.

    • stuckinthewoods

      Thanks. Do you mean under Alabama law settlements are distributed as though a decedent was intestate, whether he was or not? Not payable to his estate?

      • Randy Left Brooklyn

        That’s what the SPLC site says is the law.

        • John30013

          Could you post a link to that on the SPLC site? I’m curious why the law is written that way. Maybe some “anti-gold digger” provision?

          • Randy Left Brooklyn

            http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/alabama-recognizes-splc-client-paul-hard-as-surviving-spouse-on-husband-s-death-ce

            That is the link I was able to get. It is from 2/9/15. JMG has the link at the bottom of a story on this subject posted on 2/23/15 with a SPLC link and labels of Alabama, Foundation for Moral Law, and Roy Moore.

            After thinking it over, this law probably had something to do with making sure wives didn’t get too uppity.

            Think about it: Spouses get the first $100,000 then everything else gets split by the intestate laws. That at one time made sure a widow wasn’t left destitute, but if she got a big payout, it would now get split with her children. I can just see those chauvinists doing something like that.

          • RoFaWh

            I wonder when the figure was set at $100,000? Betcha it was a l-o-n-g time ago and the same buying power would take five or ten times as many $ today.

          • Randy Left Brooklyn

            I agree. At first I wondered why they did that, then I realized the law was probably very old when $100K was worth a lot more.

    • Chucktech

      You’re right, Randy, the fact that they had a will in place tells you that, in the unlikely event that he dies, he knows that his crazy, hateful, christian of a mother would be powerless to take anything. Not even with the power of her sweet Lord, Jeezy.

  • rednekokie

    Okay – the real meaning of all this is finally coming out. It is not about religion or morals or icky stuff or whatever.
    It’s about money – just money. Anything — any way to keep legally married folks from getting what rightly belongs to them.
    And that’s what the whole bit about opposing anything to do with gay rights is about — money —
    Shame on those bigots!!! The greedy bastards!!!

    • lymis

      Not quite. It is ALSO about (misplaced and toxic) religion, (malformed and intrusive) morals, and icky stuff.
      It’s just that money always trumps everything else.

  • Irishsupporter

    how suitable, a despicable woman and a hate-filled organization!!!

  • hdtex

    There’s a special place in hell for cunts like this….

  • AtticusP

    When did Satan go blonde?

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    She should be careful, it’s tornado season in Alabama. Someone may drop a house on her.

    • medaka

      Wouldn’t it be nice!

    • Patrick

      One of the most tastefully decorated houses this side of the rainbow has to offer…..

    • PLAINTOM

      It’a Alabama so it would be a double wide.

  • Michael Rush

    here is a fight that deserves a gofundme page .

    • Cat Feeesh

      IT REALLY DOES!

    • Philly Mike

      This witch will think she deserves a cut of that money as well.

    • Chucktech

      Actually, I don’t agree. Why? Because the LAW is on HIS SIDE.

      • B Snow

        I think he meant raising funds to hire some good lawyers for this guy.

        • dj

          He’s represented by SPLC for free.

          • B Snow

            Ah right. Thanks!

  • TexasBoy

    What kind of dark, evil mother isn’t happy that her child found love? Christianity, destroying families for over 2000 years.

    • Chucktech

      Honestly, how poisoned by religion must you be to hate your baby??

  • If I am reading this correctly, I think if “mom” had better legal advice, she would stand a better chance of inheriting all of her son’s estate and denying it to his husband- grandstanding is not going to serve her interests. .If I were her lawyer (i am playing devil’s advocate), I would try to keep this within the State of Alabama’s redneck court system, get a quick ruling, and try to grab as much of the estate as quickly as possible, and NOT position this as a challenge to Obergefell. This might serve the interests of the FML, but it is not likely that “mom” is going to see any cash from this anytime soon if at all. And, as the old saying goes, if Mom does get the money, lets hope she uses it on medical bills,

    • Randy Left Brooklyn

      If you go to the SPLC site, they explain the dead spouse left his entire estate to his husband in his will. The will was legally valid.

      • TexasBoy

        Unfortunately, a will is only as valid as the families allow it to be. even if the will is eventually found to be valid by a court, there likely would be little left after lawyer fees, since this woman is forcing the estate to to spend itself up on lawyer fees. Spitefulness is a Christian Family Value…I found this out after my Grandmother passed away years ago.

        • Randy Left Brooklyn

          There is no argument over the will.

    • TexasBoy

      Spouses, in most states, automatically inherit 50% of an estate, that means that even if her claim is completely denied, that the husband would get 50% and the other 50% would likely go to the mother. Mommy Dearest wants it ALL. She is just being an evil, greedy Christian. You know, the kind that ignore all the sins in their book of fairy tales, except for the one about Homosexuality.

      I suspect this has more to do with her personal greed than actually caring about her dead son.

      • Cat Feeesh

        She’s saying he was not a spouse

        • Yes, and Alabama Courts will probably buy off on this — and federal courts will not. This is why I am saying that the FML is screwing her case up — if she has any at all.

    • Stev84

      That’s all those Christian legal organizations ever do. They don’t give a shit about their clients. They just need willing idiots to get standing to push their agenda.

  • Porkie

    “The issue is not whether someone may marry a member of the same sex today. The issue is whether a court may or should look back four years and recognize a marriage that was not legally valid.”

    My interpretation of the SCOTUS decision with regards to the 14th is that The Marriage was legally valid 4 years ago, as it is today, everywhere within the US and that the state was going against the authority of the US constitution in not recognising it as such…….
    But hell I don’t got no law degree.

    • Your arguments are as valid as anyone’s in an area of law in which precedence is lacking. Common sense trumps b.s. almost all the time, and you have this.

      • John30013

        There may be precedent in interracial marriages that occurred before Loving was decided, where the spouse’s death occurred after.

    • lymis

      Unconstitutional means that it’s been a wrong interpretation since the 14th Amendment passed, if not all the way back to the initial passing of the Constitution.

      It means that the state NEVER had a right to deny a valid marriage, and that their claim to be able to do so was invalid.

      Not a lawyer. It’s likely that courts would not be willing to go back decades and try to undo settled inheritances or allow new lawsuits for old issues. But they shouldn’t have any ability to ignore the clear SCOTUS directive in a currently open case.

      That marriage was valid, and SCOTUS has ruled that Alabama did not have the right to claim it wasn’t.

      • Porkie

        You said it a lot better than I

      • Chucktech

        THIS X 1000.

      • Prixator

        This is why I get a bit ticked off when I hear “same-sex couples were granted (or given) the right to marry”. No! The right to marry was finally recognized. It was always there, but denied until now.

      • Kruhn

        That IS the question. There is a provision in the Constitution that states that Congress shall pass no ex-post facto laws. In other words all laws should apply prospectively except of they grant a right.

        Now this is a Supreme Court decision, does Obgerfell reopen the question of inheritance or would this be av ex-post facto action. The sad part is that she still can get half of the money based on the laws of Alabama. Can you be that callous?

    • Heroic Hal

      The retroactive applicability of a court decision is a whole area of study, I think. An article (PDF) covering that topic is at http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1850&context=facpubs.

  • Cat Feeesh

    Will somebody start a gofundme site for Paul?

    • I will promote it on my blog and ask my boyfriend to do the same on his, we have a few hundred regular LGBT readers every day each.

  • Heroic Hal

    That she’s arguing in desperation becomes clear when she makes her comment that “an entire spousal share of the wrongful death proceeds which would be unjust even under normal circumstances considering the two were ‘married’ less than 3 months”. Does she really believe that marriage has a transitional period? If her own husband had died three months into her marriage, would she have gracefully accepted receiving only a small share of any survivor benefits and inheritance she would have received if they’d married several years earlier?

    • Bad Tom

      Being married a single hour, or even a single minute, should, no WOULD be enough, for any heterosexual couple.

      That is the outrage here.

    • Porkie

      100x + there is a clue in ” SPOUSAL share of the wrongful death proceeds”

    • Bj Lincoln

      One of our arguments was Britney Spears was married 55 hours and received every benefit while some of us have been together 55 years and have none. It doesn’t matter how long they were married. The second they filed all the paperwork, it’s a done deal. The bitch knows that.

      • Steverino

        Exactly. My husband and I were life partners before Britney Spears was even born, and during that brief period she was in that Las Vegas marriage, she and her spouse had countless rights that my husband and I did not have at that time.

  • JT

    What’s most surprising about this is that the AL Supreme Court Chief Justice is even more loony and hateful than he seemed before. And he has a wife to match.

  • BeaverTales

    Hard v. Fancher is Exhibit A in why you set up an irrevocable trust instead of a will….even if you are married. You keep cretins like “81% of Alabama voters in 2006” from having a say on your assets in the first place, or having it get taxed excessively or go through probate.

    Mine cost $6K and a few weeks to set up with a good estate attorney. I’m sure it will be worth every penny in sparing my survivors a bunch of legal and IRS/SSA bullshit.

    • Charles in Bloomington

      “It is outrageous that five unelected lawyers on the U.S. Supreme Court think they can invalidate a constitutional amendment adopted by 81% of Alabama voters in 2006 … ”
      Did Alabama really have an 81% voter turnout in 2006? I doubt it.

      Looks like it was 50.6 percent turnout: http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/alabama_voter_turnout_only_41.html

      • Stev84

        Probably closer to 20-30%

      • Chucktech

        You left out the black robes part…

  • Ninja0980

    Fancher is a vile $#@!.

  • Randy Left Brooklyn

    This whole story makes me so sad. It reminds me of the 80s and 90s, when guys would die of AIDS and their family would descend and act like the guy’s longtime boyfriend, who cared for the deceased for months or years, was just nobody. The family would come in and take all kinds of things with no respect for the survivor at all. This would happen even when the family would have had little or nothing to do with their gay son/brother while they were alive and ill. It was disgusting.

    • stuckinthewoods

      That scenario affected my B. They took it all. I inherited from two of my partners and challenges from families were defeated. A third I was executor for countered the State of Virginia when VA wanted to give a portion of retirement benefits to mother – and I won that. That’s why I find this in AL a surprise. Bizarre law to not credit estate.

      • Randy Left Brooklyn

        I assume law has something to do with the fact that for some people they would have little to no estate. If there was a wrongful death lawsuit like this the size of the estate would grow immensely, and the law was trying to be fair to all the remaining survivors, especially when they are all likely low income.

        • stuckinthewoods

          Understood, and it makes sense were the individual intestate. Then there are no stated intentions by the decedent – which isn’t the case here.

          • JustSayin’

            That also depends on state law, for example Louisiana still follows the laws of 17th century France and rules is Succession. So if you are married to someone, will or no will, you and your kids have a right to a portion of the estate as does the first spouse, kids or stepkids, and in convoluted ways other relatives can make a succession claim.

      • Fyva Prold

        (edit) The disputed money is the damages from wrongful death. They are split as if there’s no will.

    • billbear1961

      It was evil.

      And, as you say (or imply), this woman is no better.

    • SoCalVet

      oh yes, I witnessed that. I also witnessed families not even coming to visit or caring when their sons were dying. one of the things that continues to linger and make me a bitter old bitch.

      • JoyZeeBoy

        I have a couple of stories about that but one in particular still nags at me, 27 years after it happened. My college friend, Vernon, was dying of AIDS and his family in pre-enlightened Rehoboth Beach, refused to allow him to come home from NYC to die in dignity. When he did die, they showed up, en masse, to strip his meager estate bare. I’ve never forgotten that and I often wonder how they have managed to live with themselves.

        • pj

          that happened often in chicago in the 90s. usually the people who cared for the aids patient were too exhausted from the final months of care to fight the family who after years of no support arrived to collect the estate. somtimes that meant the boyfriend or best friend caregiver lost their home or any common property. it was disgusting how often it happened and there was nothing that could be done about it. when the young ones wonder why older queers are so angry and bitter when we talk about those times this is part of the reason. what made it even more difficult to bear was the familys toxic sense of entitlement…..

          • SoCalVet

            I saw that. I even saw them trying to take things I had left at that person’s house to help them.

          • Nexus1

            It is amazing how death tends to bring out the vulture in people. I’ve never understood how people can be so cruel and vicious about possessions and money once someone dies. Things and money will never be more valuable to me than people. I count myself lucky that my immediate family have never been vultures over the estates, possessions or wills of a deceased family member. People who act like that show just how low and despicable they are. Sadly there are a ton of people like that, they show themselves all the time when someone dies even if all that is left is meager possessions there are still people who want to fight over that. It’s truly disgusting.

          • Mark

            And more often…their ‘sense of entitlement’ was all about denying the spouse. They didn’t want or need the stuff – and they were gonna make damn sure the spouse was shut out. As for any money – it can be laundered through the bank so there’s no icky gay stuff on it.

            Color me ‘bitter ol bitch’ as well.

          • Prixator

            The reason given was usually “You made my son a homosexual!” or “You seduced my son into homosexuality! He was a good boy before he met you!”.

          • Chucktech

            Yeah, I’d say Prove it, you christianist bitch, or STFU.

          • Ian

            As a young one. I hope I can repay just a bit of the debt owed for the suffering and struggle heaped on our community in those dark days. I know that as a direct result of all of us coming out and being proud, we’ve changed many of our families’ minds.

            Reading all these accounts I am filled with rage. But one thing keeps coming back….gay couples are marrying — yesterday, today, tomorrow, the day after, the day after that, and the day after that. And there’s nothing those bigots can do to stop it. o/ That put a smile RIGHT back on my face.

          • David Walker

            Thanks. You’re doing fine. There is one thing I’d ask, though. I was going to post the original cast recording, but then I saw that he sang this at the White House, which (to me) makes it all the more powerful.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PouOnJxFsvY

          • ZhyKitty

            Ugh..I can’t even see to type now.

          • People4Humanity

            Shivers ran down my spine!

          • Thank you for posting this. Though I’m still under 50, I have a binder with copies of all of my legal documents, including wishes for any final memorial services. I just hand-wrote the name of this in the section for potential appropriate songs.

          • David Walker

            Excellent choice. When I directed our gay men’s chorus, I used the choral version of this. We almost always got a standing ovation…and many of the applauding hands had tissues dangling. To use the other meaning of appropriate, I appropriated several songs that were meant to address racial issues and without changing a word, the audience understood it also applied to us.

          • Nexus1

            Add to that the fact that this ‘mother’ will likely be unsuccessful in her claim and that the next unfortunate Paul Hard will have the law and full marriage rights on his side. This particular case always makes me tear up when I look at the loving photos of Paul and David. Their love truly beamed from both of them. For David’s ‘mother’ to do this to the love of her sons life is the epitome of cruelty. Paul is such a strong man for baring this burden and persevering through it. He has honored his husband beautifully.

            http://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/detail/images/news/paul_hard_southern_poverty_law_center.jpg

          • fuow

            You nailed it. Some people get upset when I talk about the A-List-Fags who don’t vote – this is precisely the reason I fight and fight hard.

        • Hryflex

          When a professor of mine died a year after I had graduated, his partner, who was a doctoral candidate in another department, came back home to find the locks changed. The relatives offered to let him buy back his dissertation. That still makes me angry.

          • GeoffreyPS

            Oooh…. that makes me extra angry. The dissertation was CLEARLY his property. I hope he sued.

          • ZhyKitty

            A lot of us back in those days (for me, the early 90’s) were just kids ourselves in very adult situations. A grieving friend would have something like that happen and the only thing we COULD do was let them sleep on the couch and help them move anything the family was willing to let them have….comfort them when they realized they didn’t even have a dirty shirt to smell now…or some cheap but special mementos or jewelry given in love on special occasions.
            We didn’t know our rights, or how to help our friends reclaim their power…and we were poor the way young people are…
            In those days, people didn’t see gay rights the way they do now… It was bad everywhere but in some backwater Southern hell hole like this there WERE no gay rights. Life was so different then…
            Lesbian couples with kids had separate bedrooms (and didn’t use one) out of fear of someone’s vengeful family calling CPS and taking the kids one of them had had before they got together. Those were hard times, scary, uncertain times…in a lot of ways.
            We didn’t have allies then like now, much less did we know where we could get a lawyer willing to help in any situation where our rights, which again, didn’t really exist, were violated….or even just an adult who knew what to do…

            The kids today are so lucky. They get to be out and proud and they have rights and even older mentors…
            Most of all..they are SO lucky because they just get to be kids. It’s so different now.

          • Kruhn

            Jesus Christ in a pink tutu! Talk about evil!

          • Oh’behr

            Fuckers. I really hope there is a hell for them.

          • DonnaLee

            I’m sorry you had to deal with that, those a truly sick people.

        • It’s usually the meager estates that produce the nastiest will contests and fights among relatives. It’s always sad.

      • nipper

        That still goes on.

    • Stev84

      “If These Walls Could Talk 2” has a great episode about that set in the 1960s

      • Schlukitz

        Thanks. Steve84. I was just thinking about that movie starring Vanessa Redgrave.

        • ZhyKitty

          Both “If These Walls Could Talk” are favorite rainy day “I need a good cry” movies.

      • jmax

        Bawled my eyes out when I watched that show.

    • Schlukitz

      It’s what vultures do. It comes naturally.

      • 2patricius2

        Evil vultures.

        • GreatLakeSailor

          Evil vultures with bovine spongiform encephalopathy.

          • Chucktech

            Evil, christian vultures.

          • fuow

            Actually, ‘christian’ subsumes all the other terms.
            Calling somebody a christian is the worst insult I have. Nastier than c*nt.

          • Chucktech

            It really is, isn’t it? “Christian???!!! Them’s fightin’ words!”

    • Sadly, it still happens. 🙁

    • Cattleya1

      If there was no money involved, they would not claim the body and not show up for the funeral. I went to a lot of funerals where the friends were the only mourners. It just frosts my balls to see John Hagee, Noot Gingrich and Donald Drumph claim they are legitimately married and denounce a longterm gay couples marriage as illegitimate.

  • Ireyon

    Apparently the assholes will never stop will they.

  • Bj Lincoln

    This woman is a greedy cold bitch who hated her son for being gay. Because he is dead, she wants to take her hate out on his husband by taking all she can even if that means it’s all used up on lawyer fees.
    Her brand of ‘christianity’ make a mockery of the religion and makes good Christians look bad. I hope she dies alone in some shit hole and her cat eats most of her before someone finds what’s left. If there is a Hell, there must be a place card waiting for her mean hateful ass.

    • Kruhn

      Don’t poison the poor pussy cat! They wouldn’t eat something as rancid as Mommy Dearest!

  • Webslinger

    Dear Readers:

    This is why it is vitally important even when you are married and ESPECIALLY when you are not but have assets with someone else to have a will and/or living will drawn up and updated regularly…hell it is just a good sound and responsible idea…forget the notion that it is morbid but accept the notion it is responsible, kind and mature to do these things..

    What happens if I don’t have a will?

    Your friends and family will have to spend days or weeks digging through your things to figure it out for you. But it is often not that easy and we’ve all heard the tragic stories: Family relationships destroyed, custody battles, long and confusing probate process, money that should go to survivors eaten away by court battles. Your relatives could easily make decisions you would disagree with, or even much simpler, you always wanted xx to have your yy, but no one knew.

    SEE the links below and get started…it is NOT that hard….but it conveys to friends/family and others your intentions

    http://getyourshittogether.org/wills/#.VajtzxNViko

    http://getyourshittogether.org/living-will/#.VajtQRNViko

    • William

      A trust is stronger than a will and much harder to dispute.

      • sherman

        Some people have trust issues, just sayin’.

      • JustSayin’

        While technically true, trusts are not always the best vehicle
        For assets that are not legally joint property. For example any particular thing, of value or not, that you wish to give to a friend or relative after your death. If you register it as a joint asset while living and depend on a trust you may end up obliging them with annual tax debt and as a joint owner they could sell or take the item to do what they want with it unless very specific terms are set into that trust.

        If you have a decent sized estate involving property rights and real estate, the large immovables should be in a trust and your will should state disposal per the trust instructions filed at the county courthouse.

        Any pre-nup should specify the trust or trusts you have are not community property and that items in your respective wills only cover assets bought without commingled funds or gifts explicitly given. A divorce decree should be equally as specific.

        You would be amazed at the number of second spouses who get screwed because the will still shows the first spouse as beneficiary.

      • Webslinger

        agreed…but the point is DO SOMETHING…

        What is a Trust?

        Trusts are often set up and included in a Will to make the legal process after you die (probate) faster/cheaper and get your assets more quickly into the hands of who you want to have them. Trusts and probate process vary from state-by-state. Again, Nolo or LegalZoom and others offer them online.

        http://www.nolo.com/products/online-living-trust-nntrus.html

        https://www.legalzoom.com/aff/personal/protect-your-family

  • billbear1961

    I thought this was settled way back when Granade ruled, and certainly since Obergefell!

  • Still shocking to me how people like Roy Moore can keep mentioning “biblical law” and then get all pissy when you compare Christian fundamentalists to the Sharia-loving Taliban.

    Did I say “shocking”? I should probably say “annoying.”

    • Heroic Hal

      Yeah, there are the people who push for laws banning “foreign laws” from being considered by the courts during judicial proceedings, based on their irrational fear that courts are going to start invoking sharia law. Some of these people are the same ones who think that our laws should be based on the Bible–which is just as much a foreign law as sharia is, coming from the same part of the world, and longer ago.

  • JaniceInToronto

    How much longer is the poor bastard going to be dragged through the ‘justice’ system by these evil shits?

    • Silver Badger

      Until every dime goes to the legal system.

  • Mark

    Dominionism…’nuf said.

  • Galvestonian

    I’ll bet there’s a really good reason why the gay deceased son left ‘mommy dearest’ in the first place. She sounds like a money gribbing troglodyte who has already spent the bulk of her late sons’ estate and is now screaming ‘moral values’ (not that she had any to begin with) in an effort to contain any further damage to her bankroll. She’s gonna lose and will scream – I mean SCREAM against just how horribly unfair and unchristian the whole debacle is in hopes of grifting more cash from the good conservative faux christianist buncho’stupids. Why, I swan, she’s just a poor misunderstood white Southern lady being roughed up by a whole mess of evil elitist gay yankees. Oh my stars and bars, I need a magnolia to press up agin my lily white breast just to keep my breath. Oh my, gays in Alabama. who let them in ? I need my smelling salts.

    • cjs

      Elitist gay Southerners are also happy to gang up on this bitch’s ass. Of course, I’m from Atlanta, which is the center of evil for people like this in the Deep South, and isn’t Southern and Christian like the good people of whatever her part of Alabama are.

  • SoCalVet

    I thought that stood for “fuck my life.” What total assholes. Can’t even say what I’m thinking…

  • Brian Johnson

    Just started Paul a Go Fund Me account.

    gofundme.com/z6x68qe6

    • zhera

      Do you have Paul’s consent and permission to do that? You know, for credibility and such.

      • Brian Johnson

        I emailed him at his university email address and informed him of the move and gave him a link to the page. I am also in contact with the staff of GoFundMe to have them forward all funds to him.

        • zhera

          Excellent. I just thought that having him onboard would get more people to donate. 🙂

    • donated, not much but hopefully it will just be a drop in the bucket.

      • Brian Johnson

        I’m sure he will appreciate everything

  • JoyZeeBoy

    “Not incidentally, the FML openly advocates for replacing the government of the United States with a Christian theocracy ruled by ‘biblical law.'” I’m pretty sure that qualifies as “Sedition.”

  • TJay229

    One good thing is… She can’t spend the money, it’s all frozen. So until the finial say, her bitch ass can’t do nothing with any of it, including the interest it has gained. I know that has her pissed.

  • TJay229

    Anyone…

    What county is this case being heard…. I would like to read it?

    @JoeMyGod

  • Cosmo Tupper

    So three months marriage is not long enough to be entitled to your spouses estate? Hmmm, so I guess there is a vesting period when you get married. Let’s see…..
    1st Anniversary…..10% vested?
    2nd Anniversary….20% vested?
    3rd Anniversary…..30% vested? etc.
    Is that how it works in “traditional” godly marriage? In this example, you need to be married 10 years before you are able to receive “all” of your spouses estate.
    You’re a f*cking idiot and a greedy troll. If I was the widowed spouse, once I won my right to 100%, I would give you a single nickel to symbolize how much you really LOVED your son!

    • 2patricius2

      In a traditional “godly” marriage, when a woman married a man, the man got ownership of her and her property. She was indeed his property. He could beat her or rape her and it was okay.

      • To be fair now, they did pass that law in England back in the day, saying that the husband couldn’t use a rod bigger than the width of his thumb to beat the wife with. Now that’s some xtian charity for ya right there!

    • Chucktech

      No, no, it’s more like a 5 year balloon thing. After 5 years you’re fully vested…

  • Michael Abbett

    If anybody needs a legitimate GoFundMe campaign it’s him, although likely there are personal possessions involved that money alone can’t replace. What a hideous cow.

    • Chucktech

      I have a hunch that when the wheels of justice have completed turning, it will be SHE who needs GoFundMe.

  • skeptical_inquirer

    Is it wrong that I saw FML and thought “Fuck my life” and thought she’s the President of that?

    • sherman

      I would like to see a GIF that starts with “FML” and the two perpendicular lines in the “M” migrate to create “EVIL”.

      • People4Humanity

        You kids and your iPad™s!
        What’ll you think up next?

      • Oh me too! Maybe we’ll be lucky and Sam Handwich will do that!

  • Cosmo Tupper

    Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore should step down due to a conflict of interest given his wife is head of an organization that promotes subverting federal law resulting in discrimination. So how could the judge possibly be impartial and act fairly?

    • He needs to be disbarred as he is not following the constitution and many of his more inflammatory statements could be taken as treasonous.

  • Michael Smith

    “an entire spousal share of the wrongful death proceeds which would be unjust even under normal circumstances considering the two were ‘married’ less than 3 months.”

    This is insulting to gay people, married people, and people with a body temperature that is roughly 98 degrees.

    • Fyva Prold

      It’s also insulting to the late spouse of Mr Paul Hard

    • Yeh, all those YEARS together never happened. ..ugh. Not that it would matter if it were only three months, but damn.

    • Chucktech

      Yeah, you need to have at least a couple of years of real, biblical marriage under your belt if you expect to receive any spousal death benefits…

      Christian illogic for you.

    • LonelyLiberal

      Hey! Even zombies object to this, with body temperature near current room temperature.

      The vampires haven’t weighed in yet, but you know vampires. They do tend to be homocons.

      • Michael Smith

        I apologize if I offended anyone in the undead community.

    • Sadly enough, I could see a xtian family fighting the wife for death funds if their son had died between the ceremony and the honeymoon.

  • Queequeg

    Mabye if the Moores worried less about same sex couples getting married and more about their son spending all his time getting high and looking for “pussy”, that son may not get arrested as often.

    • JW Swift

      Ah, now, see, that’s awfully close to butting-in and telling other people how they should live their lives. That’s THEIR job.

    • People4Humanity

      The “poontang” described by Caleb Moore (former ‘executive director’ of FuckMyLife) is attached to a guy [allegedly]:

      • Chucktech

        Oh GAWD, wouldn’t THAT be delicious!

        • The only thing better would for him to come out, get clean and sober and give his thanks to his husband for sticking by him thru all his trials with his parents.

      • Queequeg

        Right, the word he used was “poontang”, still, they seem to do nothing to keep him out of trouble, only bail him out when he gets arrested

  • What a vile, greedy, evil woman. I hope she rots.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    The cruelty and viciousness displayed by this woman and her venal overlords, the FML, is both tiresome and anathema to the guy they claim to follow. Disgusting doesn’t even come close to being an apt description of the situation.

  • RKitty01

    FML-F**k My Life?

    • Yup!!! Fits perfectly, doesn’t it?

  • 2patricius2

    Kayla Moore is outrageous.

  • John Calendo

    I’d like to know more about this case. If the mother is petitioning SCOTUS, that suggests the case has already been decided in the husband’s favor, has already gone to the District Court where the ruling was affirmed. Is that the case?

  • JustSayin’

    If anyone is interested the original case filing is here
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/case-docket/Paul-Hard-v-Robert-Bentley-et-al

    Bentley was the governor at that time. It is an interesting read. The guys had been a couple since 2004.

    Additionally it seems that in Alabama if there is a wrongful death suit only the estate executor can file it, and the law demands dispersal of proceeds as if the person died without a will.

    They call it interstate succession.

    • DJ

      Intestate.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Special place in hell, man….

  • helzphar

    It bears mentioning that the mother, who never offered to pay a dime of her son’s final expenses, nor contributed to the wrongful death lawsuit, also has another gay son and possibly a deceased gay son, who committed suicide. Her defense is that she was the wife of a Baptist preacher, but her son-in-law, the man she is trying to disinherit, was ordained as a Baptist preacher.

    • Menergy

      the plot line definitely thickens!

    • Double tap is too good for her. I suggest locusts.

    • DJ

      Thanks for that background info. However, is there any reason to believe that the 3rd son was gay or are you just assuming that b/c he committed suicide?

  • bob

    Where’s a bolt of lightning when you need it !

  • BudClark

    Soul-less bitches, both of them!

    • Bud you sure have that right!

      waving hello!!!

  • Can someone judge them with a bible based religious theocracy? I’m so sick of reading about these whores doing things. Shouldn’t they have been stoned to death already?

  • Mrs Moore, if we did become a theocracy, you do realize that you would be guilty of adultery? Which punishment would you prefer, stoning to death or prison?

    Foundation for Moral Law, aka FML. Those right wingers have no grasp of the current lingo, but this one fits great, as they are interested in fucking over anyone who doesn’t adhere to their narrow views of what is moral and “right”.

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    Not sure who originally said this, but it certainly applies here:

    http://img.picturequotes.com/2/16/15538/15538.jpg

  • ericpayne

    I predicted EXACTLY what this woman would do, and what her legal reasoning would be, in a comment (either here, or on Towleroad or on Box Turtle Bulletin) back when Alabama’s DOMA was struck down. Sometimes, i hate when I’m right.

    • Nexus1

      Thankfully you weren’t right about the Obergefell decision.

  • nipper

    Notice how no one bitches about “five un-elected lawyers” when they win a decision. Also which biblical law will that be, the one where women have no rights of ownership?

  • I’m at Netroots Nation and haven’t been as on top of the cases as usual. I haven’t looked through the entire post to see if the motion itself has been posted. In case not, here it is: http://bit.ly/1CMQt5T

  • Pete Bromley

    Now in our 29th year as a couple I sure am glad my husband of just five months now talked me into creating our wills way back when ( ok 1986 the same year we decided to become a couple for life ) . By having that umpteen page document we were able to control everything and thereby put each other first and foremost upon one’s demise and believe U me there sure was some family uproar over both sides finding out they they had been left bupkis but after all what we have we have together there’s nada thing we own jointly or severally that any of them purchased in either of our names for us so that way when the vultures arrive they can and WILL be BEATEN back at the door to prevent any of them fron getting so much as a piece of toilet paper because we worked for every thing WE own !

  • dwieboldt

    Skanky evil bitch ho…

  • JCF

    “Of course, if the marriage is recognized it will only cause further economic harm to a family which has already lost one its own.”

    STFU, the *ONLY* who’s “lost one its own” is his widower Paul Hard!

  • Heroic Hal

    Every single decision the Supreme Court and every other Federal court makes is made by unelected judges. That these judges are appointed rather than elected was intentional on the part of people who (in their innocence?) thought this would keep judges above politics when hearing their cases and ruling on them. As this has been true for as long as there’s been a Federal judiciary system, what is it with people who, the instant they aren’t happy with an outcome, act as though they’re revealing some grave, nefarious secret?