Ben Shapiro Vs Trans Reporter

Ben Shapiro really got into it with trans reporter Zoey Tur last night. Mediaite reports:

Asked by host Dr. Drew Pinsky whether Jenner deserved the ESPY award after “courageously coming forward, for having been an athlete of great prowss, and now fighting a new battle,” Shapiro spilled his disdain for the entire concept of transgenderism: “What exactly is the battle? I mean, self-definition is what you do, and my baby’s doing it at 18 months old. I was unaware that you get a medal for it.” And when Shapiro refused to call Jenner and Tur by anything but male pronouns, the segment went straight down the tubes. “Forget about the disrespect,” Shapiro said, in the full clip first reported by Breitbart.

“Facts don’t care about your feelings. It turns out that every chromosome, every cell in Caitlyn Jenner’s body, is male, with the exception of some of his sperm cells.” We both know chromosomes don’t necessarily mean you’re male or female,” Tur replied, and then put her hand on Shapiro’s shoulder. “So you don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re not educated on genetics.” That prompted Shapiro to ask: “What are your genetics, sir?” And off we go. “You cut that out now, or you’ll go home in an ambulance,” Tur shot back while holding Shapiro by the back of his neck.

The battle continues from there. Shapiro has spent the day tweeting and retweeting ugly anti-trans messages including the usual rainbow swastika flag from fellow Breitbart knuckledragger John Nolte. The headline above is from Raw Story.

  • Octavio

    Yes, some of us were just giggling about this episode on the Trump post. 🙂

  • Circ09

    JFC…that asshat has bred? With a woman? Poor kid.

  • Leo

    Knowing HLN, if Zoey and Ben had gone to blows the producers (and especially Drew) would’ve probably egged them on. This pick of guests and seating was clearly deliberate. Actively cringed through this…

    That said, it’s incredibly refreshing for Ben to finally have faced upfront a taste of his own medicine. He’s only blathering and escalating now on Twitter because he can without physical repercussions.

    • Xavier

      “Physical blowback”? WTF are you talking about?

      • Leo

        Lol. Edited. Not referring to marijuana, but fighting and kicking involving bruises. Sorry for the weird phrasing.

        • Xavier

          Thanks for clarifying that! It’s an excellent point. I’ve taken a screen shot of your statements and I think the responsible thing to do now is to post them on certain websites and forums so that the guys there will know that the fighting and kicking and bruising are OK when it comes to transgenders. We’ll see who gets bruised more.

          Thanks a bunch! ttfn

    • David Walker

      Not that that’s not characteristic of a coward and/or a person who lost an argument and is now trying to win. I’ve seen this with phobes, lose an argument (and in one case, a physical fight) and go to their fellow phobes.

      I also think Benny needs to stop shaving above his nose. He’s a monobrow. Benny, that would give you such a truly butch look which, god knows, you need.

      • Dean

        Yes, you definitely have the better of the argument because you are insulting his appearance. BTW, when transgenders are involved, it is unwise to get into an insult contest involving appearance.

    • My impression was that this was a talking heds version of Jerry Springer.

  • Reasonoverhate

    Why did they allow a little boy to participate in an adult conversation?

    • Blake Jordan

      Controversy…

    • Mark

      Ratings and of course, benghazi…..

    • TreGibbs

      Exactly

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Whoa ! Ben is a little boy and BIG FUCKING ASSHOLE !!

    And, whats that look on his face ??? What a Fuckhead !

    • Octavio

      He has “birth defect” eyebrows. Eyebrows that were added without much afterthought.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Momma approved :

        • Octavio

          Thanks. Now I’ll have bad dreams for a week!

          • Six Pins Delores

            Poor Rosemary!

      • Six Pins Delores

        He has his fathers eye(brow)s.

  • another_steve

    That’s a very good discussion. I urge everyone to listen to it. Jenner is a very imperfect spokesperson for the LGBT movement. For several reasons, some of which were explored during the discussion.

    More importantly though, I’d appreciate extensive discussion of this in this comment thread:

    WHY are so many right-wing monsters, like Ben Shapiro, so hot? I mean, shtuppably-hot?

    Please.

    Stop what you’re doing and opine on this.

    • TommyTune

      I agree. A great set of guests with widely differing perspectives. Tossing them all together was a great idea.

    • JR

      Ben Shapiro is not hot.

      Unless maybe you have a fetish for spoiled milquetoast.

      • another_steve

        Oh stop it.

        Are you telling me that you would not make him your sex-slave for at least 15 minutes — if given the opportunity?

        • JR

          Not even with YOUR dick.

          • another_steve

            So next you will be telling me that you harbor no salacious fantasy of the Benham Brothers (brothers-in-hate of the Shapiro) binding you in duct tape (but ever-so-gently) and making you submit to the indignity of their massive maleness-es while you cry out (playfully) “No more! Please sirs, no more!”

            http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1784654/images/o-BENHAM-BROTHERS-facebook.jpg

          • Blake Jordan

            To each their own, but maybe you should consider therapy…

          • gaymex

            Please stop projecting.

          • JR

            Thank you.

          • David Walker

            Dear god no. Sorry. I tend to like or dislike the whole person and in cases like this that would utterly impair any fantasy I’d have…if I needed the fantasy of two hateful blond brothers.

          • another_steve

            David, fellow traveler of my generation:

            When you and I were sexually active “in the scene,” did we interview our prospective buddies to determine whether they had good souls and would visit their mothers in the nursing home and would send money to help feed the starving children in Africa?

          • David Walker

            No. But our paths separated at some point. Good souls became something to look for and make the fantasy all the more hot. I would tend to think these guys SENT their mother to the nursing home to get her out of the way. So, you’re right about us in the ’70s but then not so much.

          • another_steve

            A BIG BIG topic… but I believe the supposed “link” we’ve been sold — the “link” between love and sex — is totally, 100 percent, bogus and false. In my opinion it’s 100 percent okay and normal to sexually fantasize about “bad people.”

            Oh lordy, much of gay porn (I assume straight porn too — though I have no direct experience with that) plays off the “doing the nasty with the bad/evil/wicked boy” thing.

            Zero link, in my opinion, between love and sex.

            Love can enhance sex, yes, but so can a good lubricant.

          • barracks9

            “Love can enhance sex”

            I agree, however, I can’t muster any quality lust for men who are so utterly driven by hate and bigotry. Nothing whatsoever appealing about that kind of hate fuck.

          • another_steve

            Lol. Love that: “Quality lust.”

            Look… At may age and given my overall physical condition, I settle for low-quality lust, whenever the fates are kind enough to send it to me.

            Actually, no-quality lust sounds mighty fine at the moment, to tell ya the truth.

          • David Walker

            Then we get to agree to disagree.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            I agree with you Mr David.
            We have this neighbor who moved into next to our horse property, acts like a TOTAL dick, his helicopter ran our horses through fence once.
            Thing is; he is my EXACT type, super hot but I wouldn’t touch him no matter what.

            I might pee on him though, but only if I was sure he didn’t like it.

          • vorpal

            Pics! (And if he doesn’t like it, even hotter!)

            I may talk about hate-fucking the Benhams, but I don’t think my penis would ever respond to them, even if they were properly ball-gagged (and LOL with latex and not by my two balls) and I didn’t have to listen to their drivel. I cannot have sex with someone unless I am fond of them on some level and share some type of connection with them, at least as a friend.

            My penis is a good judge of character 🙂 (and also quite a character hahahaha)!

            I saved my 11,111th Disqus comment JUST FOR YOU, you sexy beast!
            Feel honouuu(insert 11,108 more “u”s here)red!
            Now I must scaaaamper off to Paris where I will be undoubtedly have to protect myself from (read: subject myself to) being molested by un armée des hommes français!

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Your pee pee may be a good JUDGE of character, but mine is Judge, Jury and EXECUTIONER ! ha ha Fear not he is also overly fair, somewhat / kinda.

            Cant wait to be inundated with PICS !
            G-rated… X rated all good !

          • vorpal

            I don’t doubt for a minute that your hefty leg club is an executioner and has finished off more than a few guys through a bludgeoning blunt force attack! Hahaha!

            (I may have to commit a crime or 69.)

            He needs his own TV show, I suspect, on HBO where he can truly shine… or glisten, rather.
            Judge ______?
            What goes in the _______?
            Inquiring (penis) heads want to know.

            You will get your filthy pics ;-). Keep your eyes open, or shut, as the case may be!

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            11,112 now

          • vorpal

            Hey… when did you go behind my back and learn to count?!?!

          • JustSayin’

            On my path through our generation if the hot trick opened its mouth and spewed crap like this, it was kicked out of car on a dark lonely road and left there. Before sex ever happened, and if iit spouted this crap afterward it was shunned and derided for being an imbecile.

          • another_steve

            Well, JustSayin’, when I still harbored impressive levels of testosterone, that was never an issue for me. If Ben Shapiro chatted me up at a bar in the 70s, I would have fucked the living daylights out of him.

            Given the opportunity, of course.

            The human sexual urge and the human desire/need for quality human interaction are two separate things. If you’re lucky, those two things sometimes intersect in your reality. But it’s totally okay and normal if they don’t.

            In my opinion.

    • gaymex

      Who you think is hot is your business, but maybe you need to really think about why you would sexualize that idiot.

      • another_steve

        Oh dear.

        For what other reason does Zeus convey him to us?

        • JR

          Drawing and quartering comes to mind.

          • David Walker

            Also an object lesson of a person not to aspire to be like.

      • Toasterlad

        You talk like people have a choice who they’re attracted to.

        For many people, sexual attraction has little to do with personality. I’d hate-fuck the shit out of any number of people I despise, including those asshole twin house-flippers from the Discovery channel, and probably including Ben Shapiro.

        You don’t have to love someone, or even like them, to fuck them.

        • another_steve

          Thank you, Toasterlad.

          I have a whole new love and affection for you now.

          • Toasterlad

            I just call em like I see em.

            Still, it’s good to remember that not everybody feels that way. Some people can’t divorce the body from the person. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

  • LarryChemEngr

    Shapiro is a moron, and certainly doesn’t know genetics. He thinks the topic of gender is a strict binary. So, what about: 1) Chimeric individuals – those with the genetic information of two individuals (including male + female sometimes) caused when the zygotes of fraternal twins merged before differentiating? 2) the thousands of trans individuals whose brains are structured like the opposite gender? 3) Individuals with the chromosomes of a male, but the equipment of a female, which occurs when the Y chromosome has been turned off? I bet there are other examples.

    Shapiro is just an angry young putz with a lot of growing up to do. Somehow, I think he’ll never get there. He’ll just age into being an angry old putz.

    • Blake Jordan

      Science does not support right wing arguments, which is why they always ignore facts when they make them.

    • Gustav2

      ‘thinks the topic of gender is a strict binary.’

      Yup that’s it, end of argument!

      • Sean Williams

        But to be honest, transgerderism is only necessary in a society that subscribes to a binary gender narrative. If gender were truly fluid, there would be no need to “transition” from one gender to another.

        • JustSayin’

          I don’t think anyone is arguing the gender is fluid. They are arguing that commonly used limitations ascribed to specific genders is sometimes wrong.

    • Stev84

      See androgen insensitivity syndrome

      There are women with XY chromosomes. The Y chromosome is active and leads to the production of testosterone, but they have a mutation that makes them either partially or completely “immune” to it. So aside from abnormalities with the reproductive organs, people with complete immunity are otherwise female.

    • OnceMoreWithFeeling

      She threatens him with violence and he’s the angry one?

      • Cuberly

        Are you saying his snarky use of incorrect pronouns wasn’t meant to take a pot shot at Tur?

        He was goading her.

        • OnceMoreWithFeeling

          Oh, well, that’s different then. If only someone had made that clear. That totally justifies threatening a violent assault leading to hospitalization.

          • Cuberly

            Shapiro hurls nastiness from the confines of his echo chamber on an hourly basis.

            The real world isn’t as safe and accommodating when it comes to treating someone with disrespect as a means to provoke them.

          • Michael Hampton

            I guess some of us have more dignity than to suffer fools. Shapiro was insulting and purposefully pushed her to make the “threat” which was clearly a joke to try and get him to treat her with less hostility. And he was very openly hostile with her. I wouldn’t have blamed her for getting up and moving away from him.

          • Cuberly

            You said it much better than I did, thanks.

          • olandp

            I wouldn’t have blamed her for slapping the shit out of him. Of course if she had there would be nothing left but a suit from the boy’s department, as there is little else there besides shit.

          • agcons

            I’d pay to watch it.

      • oikos

        Your concern trolling is noted.

      • He was baiting – but that’s not an excuse to threaten violence as a response. If he were to refer to me by male pronouns, I would refer to him as “it” and call him a subhuman animal – but I wouldn’t threaten violence.

        I just got a chance to see mos of the video – is this show something like a newsy variation on Jerry Springer?

        • Rich Farias

          Once again, Joann, you prove that you’re a much better person than I could ever hope to be… if I were Ms. Tur, I would have decked the little fucker.

          • TreGibbs

            I would have turned his yarmulke into a frisbee…

    • John30013

      Not to mention that genetic makeup is not the sole determinant of much of anything. (Indeed, new science seems to suggest that environmental factors, even those that impacted ones ancestors) can have a dramatic impact on the expression or repression of one’s own genetic instructions.

      Instead of our genes being the “recipe”, they’re increasingly looking like a “recipe book”, and the cook (choosing which recipes to make) is the environment–in all its manifestations–past, present, and future.

    • Ryan Conrad

      Rare genetic anomalies have nothing to do with transgender ideology, which posits that gender is determined by self-declaration. You aren’t even making a coherent argument.

      • LarryChemEngr

        My coherent argument was that gender is not a strict binary determined only by chromosomes, as Shapiro wants us to believe, and public policy to dictate. He is being simplistic. The self declaration most usually comes from an innate sense by the individual that they are actually the opposite gender. What is the source of that innate sense? Probably developed brain structure of the opposite gender, which I included in my list of examples.

  • Blake Jordan

    Not many comments on the YouTube video, but they are all by rethuglican trolls…

    • David Walker

      Surprise, surprise, surprise.

  • Sk3ptic

    That fucker has the gall to say trans people and those who are supportive of them are delusional while simultaneously wearing a yarmulke.
    For that ALONE he has no place in a civil discussion on this topic. “Dr.” Drew is a quack for even having him on the panel.
    Shapiro IS a little man.

    • David Walker

      Perhaps in more ways than one, although he says he has a son.

      • He was at UCLA at the same time I was, so I think he and I are fairly close in age (I’m 32).

        I didn’t know him (and wouldn’t want to, bleh), but I know he used to write jerky columns for The Daily Bruin, until he had some kind of falling-out with them.

        Definitely not the best representation for our school. XD

        • David Walker

          Quelle surprise!

  • oikos

    RS post on this was overrun with Breitbart trolls earlier. They are most butthurt over little Ben claiming to be bullied.

    • David Walker

      …which bullies tend to do when they get beat and they know it.

    • Cuberly

      You where holding your own over there too. Good job!

      • oikos

        Still going. They just keep coming like an army of the (breitbart) dead.

        • Cuberly

          Be sure to mention the lurve of jesus here and there. That really sets them off. 😉

          • oikos

            Will do. Thanks. 🙂

  • bambinoitaliano

    Ben still waiting for his testicles to drop. I would not hold my breath though.

  • TommyTune

    This is the first time I’ve ever bothered to watch a video of Ben Shapiro. What a buttoned-down, miserable little tight-ass fuckwad he is! If cartoon creators were looking for someone on whom to base the most irritating nerdy villain imaginable, they’d need look no further than Ben Shapiro for inspiration. Deliver me from watching further videos of that horrible little gnat.

    • Blake Jordan

      If they ever make a live action Dexter’s Labortory, Shapiro would make a a great Mandark (sp?)…

    • JR

      What’s worse is he probably uses videos of himself being a hateful little cur as jackoff material.

    • yikes and such

      Same here, never saw or heard him do his growling in a video. I have seen Ryan Anderson, another wackadoodle from outer space (no offense, Pluto). But he sometimes smiles, and unclenches his behind. Ben is beyond the beyond.

    • I think the people who assembled Ben Shapiro out of discarded body parts were attempting to put it together to vaguely resemble an evil doppelganger of Eddie Munster. (Oh, and I have decided that the appropriate pronoun for little monster Bennie is “it.”)

      • olandp

        With you on the pronoun sister.

      • Rich Farias

        He looks like a character Michael Ian Black would have played in a sketch on The State…

  • Gustav2

    If you watch the whole interview, Master Shapiro agrees in a free society everyone should be able to live as they choose…then starts a list of things everyone is not allowed to do to live those lives.

    LOL

    • Stev84

      Typical conservative.

    • Cuberly

      Ha! You nailed it.

      But but but…he said he doesn’t hate anybody. He just doesn’t want to accommodate trans individuals in any way shape or form. Now what could possibly be wrong with that. /s

      • Gustav2

        Maybe because I have heard this since I came out in 1974:
        “No one cares you are gay, just don’t talk about it,”

        “I personally don’t care if you gay, but the law says we can’t rent an apartment to two men who are not at least 1st cousins.”

        “We love you and your partner, but don’t bring him to the family reunion.”

        and so on and so on…

        • Cuberly

          Exactly!

          Some of my best friends are______.
          I don’t care what you do in your bedroom, BUT________.

          Sheesh that list could go on and on….sadly.

          • bkmn

            Ahhhh, yes, the Maggie Gallagher sized BUT.

          • Cuberly

            Yep, large, unsightly, hard to ignore and the obvious elephantine conversation killer.

    • Bad Tom

      And then Shapiro complains about the “cost to society,” which he characterizes as “fictionalized thinking.” *

      Shapiro’s problem is simple: he lacks empathy, the ability to look at a situation from another person’s point of view.
      ——-
      * But this so-called fictionalized thinking (a transgendered person experiencing gender dysphoria,) isn’t something he personally has to engage in. Indeed, he refuses to take the opinions of actual professional psychologists, who ARE the domain experts, that gender dysphoria exists. What. a. putz.

      • Cuberly

        Empathy is characterized as “lib” weakness in breitbart land. Unless of course you’re a Duggar. Then they fall all over themselves defending the indefensible.

        • Six Pins Delores

          Well he was not able to play the christ Get Out of Jail Free card.

          • Cuberly

            Yep, but a lot of breitbart cultists are hammering away over on RS and Mediaite. Poor poor Ben and all.

          • Six Pins Delores

            LOVE that Tur did violate it’s personal space yet retained enough of her composure not to send it home in a ambulance.

          • Cuberly

            Yep, someones drawers where filling fast at that moment. Ha!

          • Bob M

            Ben, “EWWW she, I mean he touched me EWWWWW!”

        • JoeNCA

          For conservatives, it’s only a tragedy when it happens to them.

      • bkmn

        There are very few on the right who have a concept of empathy, let alone are empathetic.

        • David Walker

          But…but…but what about compassionate conservatism?

          • Gustav2

            They were passionate about funneling money to religious entities.

          • Bad Tom

            A contradiction in terms.

          • Max_1

            Their compassionate to the wallet…

          • oikos
          • David Walker

            I truly enjoy your sense of humor. Thanks.

          • oikos

            When Bush and Rove rolled out this BS of compassionate conservatism, I knew the jokes would write themselves.

          • Bad Tom

            They really do that in Iran.
            ISIL, not so much.

          • olandp

            I think that the blindfold is more for the executioners than the executed.

          • D. J.

            Like the “Moral Majority”… It’s neither.

        • secretlab

          Those of us who have survived narcissistic and sociopathic family situations recognize the pattern immediately. Lack of empathy is central to the problems these personality disordered people cause to family members and society. We’d be better off as a nation if people stopped consuming their bile and elevating them to positions of power. When it’s someone like Shapiro: light fuse. Get away.

      • Sk3ptic

        Religious people criticizing anyone else’s logic is about as insulting as it gets.

        • HanyBaal

          Great perspective. Gonna use this.

      • Rambie

        Was that a Yamaka on his head or a bad toupee?

        • Regan DuCasse

          Yamaka…ha! On HIM it is a yamaka.
          On any other decent, observant Jewish man, it’s a yarmulke.

          • Rambie

            Sorry, I’m not too knowledgeable about Jewish customs.

    • Pugsandcoffee

      “Free society” means you are free to be a Christian. That’s all. Anything else comes with fierce restrictions.

      • Sk3ptic

        Awesome! In that case Shapiro is in the same boat we are.

        • Bad Tom

          AMENDED: Free to be Judeo-Christian.

          • D. J.

            It’s often okay to ignore the Judeo part. It was done in housing and civic groups regularly.

          • Michael Hampton

            Don’t forget that the whole “War on Xmas” thing is against Jews being included in their holiday.

    • Ian

      My favorite part to all this is his non-sequitor about Jews in Austria and the whole “how dare you compare gays to Jews” but then tweets out a rainbow Swastika. So…. guess it’s okay to compare actual Nazis with gays.

      • Bad Tom

        Doubly ironic since he brought the comparison up!

      • Six Pins Delores

        It makes Scott Lively feel like a somebody.

      • popebuck1

        Conservative rule: Absolutely anything can legitimately be compared to Nazism, except for institutionalized racism, genocide, or racial/ethnic discrimination. THAT is out of line.

    • Ryan Conrad

      Yeah, so he should be threatened with assault.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Let me tell you something Ben

  • Webslinger

    I always remember the following:

    • TommyTune

      I heard it a different way: “never get in a pissing match with a skunk.”

    • Todd20036

      I like Barney Frank’s take on it: arguing with these people is like arguing with the dining room table.

      • Webslinger

        I LOVE Barney

  • OnceMoreWithFeeling

    If Tur grabbed him by the neck and threatened him with violence, then Tur lost the debate. And further, if that happened, then I’m supporting Shapiro, even if he is a little shit. I totally don’t like Shapiro, but I’ll be damned if I support outright bullying and violence on the basis of a person’s political views. If that puts me at odds with the groupthink on this site, so be it. If Matt Barber or Tony Perkins had ever grabbed the neck of Evan Wolfson or Edie Windsor and said “If you keep it up, you’ll go home in an ambulance ” you can imagine what the reaction here would be.

    • HomerTh

      Blah…blah…blah… After being constantly insulted I am sure you would just sit there and do nothing. Sometimes people just have enough of that bullshit.

      • gaymex

        She should have slapped the shit out of him.

        • gaymex

          and then kicked him in the nuts.

          • Max_1

            Son’t they have to drop first?

          • gaymex

            lol…drop kicked

        • OnceMoreWithFeelings

          Remember your own words the next time JMG posts about some transwoman who gets beaten up.

          • gaymex

            Not only are you a troll. You are a humorless troll…the worst kind

          • zhera

            Because transwomen always go around offending and provoking people, right?

            Ben ‘Damien’ Shapiro’s whole job is to offend and provoke. That will put him in some hairy situations, whether you approve or not.

      • OnceMoreWithFeeling

        What I would do is ignore the insults and make my points. Like an adult. At the very worst, I might insult him back. But putting my hands on him and threatening him with injury? No. No way.

        • Octavio

          You obviously have not watched the video.

    • KnownDonorDad

      I can completely disapprove of physical threats, serious or not, and also completely disapprove of Shapiro’s positions.

    • Bad Tom

      Did you actually watch the video?

      • Bad Tom

        Interesting, OnceMoreWithFeelilng.

        All my question requested was a Yes or No response.

        Lack of response means No in this context. Which means you didn’t bother to know what you are talking about.

        That takes chutzpah.

    • Toasterlad

      I agree with you in principle. In practice, I would have happily watched her beat the ever-loving shit out of him. I’d only ask that she give me time to get a big bucket of popcorn and a comfortable chair first.

      • OnceMoreWithFeelings

        Maybe, but then 5 minutes after it was over you would remember your principles and feel ashamed.

        • Toasterlad

          I’d learn to live with it. Beats the shame that people like Shapiro have tried to instill in me all my life, that’s for sure.

      • Piet

        You would have had to move pretty fast. Looking at them, I’d say Ms. Tur would have reduced the little shit to pulp in about three slaps and had time to freshen her lipstick by the time I got out of my chair. Of course, I’m old, but still …

    • JustSayin’

      A trolling little Quisling you are. Go back to you echo chamber on breibarf .,…

      • Savonorola

        The Guardian of the Faith enforces orthodoxy and expels heretics!

    • BaddogLtd

      I would’ve knocked this little assholes front teeth out before he finished his sentence. I’m sorry, OnceMore, I can see your point but I’m sick of bigots thinking they can push us around. Maybe they’ve bought into the stereotype that we’re somehow less manly and willing to take this shit. They’re wrong.

    • Octavio

      Tur put her arm around him. She never grabbed his neck. Her hand was on his back and lower neck. There was no tension in her movements.

  • Cuberly

    Trans individuals deserve our acceptance and respect and tolerance right Ben? Except when you’re whoring for site clicks and retweets. He was dancing so fast to rationalize his garbage output I don’t blame Tur for saying what she did.

    Little Ben, one evil shitstain.

    http://38.media.tumblr.com/04b026ddb8a247d5cd70f4ce27b1e7ed/tumblr_npm6ncODq81seoyyho1_500.gif

    • Bad Tom

      Love the clip, but it gives Shapiro too much credit.

      • Cuberly

        Ha!

    • oikos

      Young Ben serves the master as do all of the posters at Breitbart.

      http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/zombie-breitbart.jpg

      • Todd20036

        Most flattering photo of Breitbart I’ve ever seen. Death is good to him.

        • oikos

          His minions haven’t even noticed he’s dead yet.

      • Six Pins Delores

        As in life, vermin continue to nest in that skull.

        • oikos

          You just made me LOL.

  • what a fucking douchebag

  • Debs

    Um, if you are claiming not to be a man, maybe it’s not such a good idea to threaten to send your opponent to the hospital. What happened to Tur’s lady brain? “She” is acting like a US Marine after about 6 beers.

    • barracks9

      So…women can’t become physical when pushed to the point of rage? What an odd assumption.

      • Blake Jordan

        It does not fit into the sexist views of rethuglican types…

        • barracks9

          And who gets drunk on beers? Truly, I’ve never understood that. One merely rents beer, considering the speed with which it passes through one’s system. If a person can get drunk easily on 6 beers, what a lightweight.

          (I say this as a New Orleanian whose tolerance for alcohol consumption is perhaps, compared to other folks, formidable.)

          • Menergy

            I thought that was the definition of the difference between a straight Marine and a gay one = about 6 beers 🙂

      • Debs

        “Pushed to the point of rage” = Someone said things she didn’t like.

        Well, if you can’t determine whether someone is a woman by looking at their chromosomes, and you can’t tell by looking at their physical body, and and now,according to you, you can’t look at their psychology and behavior, then we have pretty much rendered the word “woman” meaningless.

    • Treg Brown

      On the other hand…

      • Sk3ptic

        P R E C I S E L Y .

      • Octavio

        That’s the first time I’ve ever noticed how much she looks like Christine Jorgensen. Oh, Faye. You were fabulous.

    • JustSayin’

      She is a combat veteran and whether you are a male or female being proven in combat gives you the right to be rough tough and bard to diaper.

      Get over yourself debs, you and your trailer trash kin behave worse that she did and you have not earned the right to.

    • John T

      So you’re saying that “real” women submit to men and must cheerfully tolerate their abuse and condescending bullshit, and any woman who stands up for herself has negated any claim to femininity.

  • BobSF_94117

    Is Dr. Drew like cage fighting? I can’t bear to watch it.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Ben Shapiro is the world’s largest douchebag.

    https://youtu.be/k_QDGdbg-QQ

    • I don’t know – it (i.e., Benie the Monster) is too small to be the largest douchebag – Justice Scalia is bigger, for example.

  • Richard Rush

    As I was listening to Ben Shapiro’s speaking voice, I realized that he has successfully transitioned to a cartoon character that matches the true nature of who he really is.

    • Bad Tom

      No surgery required!

    • The-Noodle-Almighty

      If he were a cartoon character he might look like Mr. Hankey.
      Actually, he already does.

  • ben shapiro is the lowest of the low. downright dedicated to finishing hitler’s work.

    • Blake Jordan

      Ironic, since he identifies as jewish… right?

      • well that’s the thing – he’d have totally led his fellow Jews into the gas chambers as long as he was promised a share of profits.

        • Bad Tom

          There were indeed Jewish collaborators.

    • Atticus Bennett

      The only person here who has ever openly wished for the deaths of gay people, and urged them to commit suicide – is you. Adolf thanks you from the grave.

  • sherman

    If you watched that and need to cleanse your head, here’s a funny Key and Peele skit about planning a wedding:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgY1q0J_TQ

    • TommyTune

      Those guys are amazing actors. Talk about range of character – those guys have it in spades. That skit is great, btw.

      • barracks9

        So glad Keegan got nominated for an Emmy this year! Oh, the things I would do to that man…

        • Todd E.

          right??

      • barracks9

        This is one of my favorites…”with my prayers…”
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-C9q-Na6_w

        • TampaDink

          When she starts in around 1:18 into this, she is channeling Sophia from “The Color Purple”.

        • Menergy

          oh yes — I have it saved on my DVR still and return frequently to laugh (“mmmhm in mah prayers”)

    • Blake Jordan

      Hilarious!!!

      He left a lot calmer than I would of…

      • Ed Burrow

        I would have had a lot less restraint.

  • ArchiLaw

    What a contemptible little shit. (No exclamation point, because I guess we already knew that.)

  • bryan

    Shapiro was obviously invited on to insult, degrade and bait a transgender woman. This was clearly done for ‘controversy’ and ratings. Media outlets who book these anti LBGT fascists for their shows, are the ones that should be held accountable. Shameful.

    • Cuberly

      The one thing I will say about this particular instance though. Having Shapiro outside the confines of his echo chamber reveals just how hateful he is. And yes the majority of the conversation will be about Tur’s comment but Ben did not come out smelling like a rose either.

      Toni Perkins can tone his rhetoric down when his has a camera in front of his mug. He can fake “reasonableness” to a degree. Ben hasn’t learned that skill yet.

      • Octavio

        !!!!POINTS!!!!

        • Cuberly

          Thank you 😉

  • SoCalVet

    wow, I’d like to punch the little fucker out.

  • Sk3ptic

    Good for Tur putting her foot down and making it known she is NOT a target for bashing. Good for her.

    • Coco

      It’s like a size 14 foot.

  • Clive Johnson

    Ben is a little idiot, unable to handle the concept that gender is not tied to traditional, religiously influenced, uniform, clearcut gender roles.

    And then he has the audacity, in light of his deluded worldview, to then invoke science?

    Another day, another conservative incapable of rational thought.

    [Edit. He reminds me of every other cocksure, poorly read, aggressive libertarian I’ve ever come across.]

    • franklinb23

      So what does it mean to label someone as a woman, then?
      The sex organs might be male. They may not even be feminine or soft. They may wear a dress or they may not.

      So it appears that the word is just an arbitrary label that means nothing. You might as well make up a word.

      • Toasterlad

        It means whatever the fuck she wants it to mean.

        What are you even DOING here?

        • Octavio

          Obviously, his womanliness is threatened.

        • zhera

          He’s sharing his insecurities about womanliness and femininity.

        • franklinb23

          That never used to be the argument. Being transgender meant that you needed the physical exterior to be inline with the universal definition for that gender and with what you felt it should have been. That’s at least coherent.
          Your insistence that everyone determines what gender means in the first place is not coherent.

          If being a male means whatever I want it to mean, I can’t very well insist the rest of the world change its understanding to suit my reality.

          • Toasterlad

            There has never been a “universal definition” of womanhood, at any point in history. There are stereotypical attributes associated with women, which woman throughout history have adopted or rejected as they saw fit. Being a woman – like being a man – has never had anything whatsoever to do with how you were perceived by anyone else. It has always been – and will always be – a characteristic of how you see yourself.

            If Mr. Shapiro likes to get manicures and gossip on the phone for hours, that doesn’t mean he’s not a man. Conversely, if Ms. Tur feels like hauling off and slugging some asshole who’s baiting her relentlessly, that doesn’t mean she’s not a woman. It means she’s a human being.

          • franklinb23

            “Being a woman – like being a man – has never had anything whatsoever to do with how you were perceived by anyone else”

            I’m not talking about “manliness” or “femininity”. Men can be nurturing and women can be overbearing.

            I’m talking biology. The raw physicality.

            Transgender individuals are trying to make their bodies adhere to universal (and sometimes even stereotypical) definitions of sex: why bother with risky and expensive surgeries or hormones if that were not the case?

            Check out Aidyian Dowling on the cover of Men’s Fitness. He looks more masculine than many biological males: ripped muscles, facial hair, etc.

            When Caitlyn Jenner appeared for ESPY, she was referencing idealized notions of what it means to be a biological female: makeup, long hair, slinky dresses, etc.

            All I’m pointing out is that you can’t get beyond biology and how the words that describe them can’t be discarded so easily.

            Otherwise, yes … if you’re talking personality, both genders run an enormous spectrum.

          • Toasterlad

            I have no interest in discussing the biology of transgendered people with you, or even attempting to figure out how what you said has anything remotely to do with “feminine” or “masculine” behavioral traits, which is what you started off criticizing her for.

            There are tons of resources available for you to educate yourself regarding transgendered people. I suggest you explore them.

          • olandp

            “If being a male means whatever I want it to mean, I can’t very well
            insist the rest of the world change its understanding to suit my
            reality.”

            That would make you a conservative Christian.

      • barracks9

        “Woman” means whatever the person who takes up the label wants it to mean. It’s not for you or I to define.

      • Clive Johnson

        “What does it mean to label someone as a woman, then?”

        It means that that word isn’t precise enough to cover the situations of its use.

        What we’re dealing with is a cultural transition away from identification of biology and gender toward an evidence-based and humanistic distinction that honors the lived reality of the people who claim they are transgender.

        What probably needs to happen is that we start to using language like biologically female or biologically male. A term is already gaining acceptance—cisgender.

        So, it’s not that “woman” has no use, it’s that we need to be more precise in our language choice.

  • Max_1

    Ben Shapiro IS a mental illness…

  • LADY MABELINE

    The fact that the diminutive Shapiro is an editor at Breitbart is all you need to know about his intellectual abilities. That site is about as informative and credible as Fox News.

    • Gustav2

      Less.

  • bkmn

    Poor little Has-Ben. Small mind and large ego.

  • BrandySpears

    Zoey Tur is almost as kooky as Shapiro. She claims you can change your sexual orientation with hormone therapy.

  • bsinps

    It’s to bad that Ben has not ben put under lithium treatment himself as his
    grangrandfather was. I believe it would help Shapiro a lot.

  • Sean Taylor

    Is it wrong to think it would have been amusing to watch her kick his ass on national television?

    • Sk3ptic

      Nope. Bring it on!

      • Sean Taylor

        thank you!

    • Beck

      Were you entertained by that gay bashing in Philly too?

      • Toasterlad

        Please don’t pretend the two things are equal.

        We get it: violence is wrong. That doesn’t mean that some asshole goading someone else into violence is the same as two gay men being attacked for minding their own business on the street.

        Stupid comparisons only weaken your argument.

      • Sean Taylor

        I’m not sure you understood the question. But thanks for responding to my comments I always appreciate others viewpoints

      • Clive Johnson

        False equivalence.

        It would have been wrong for Tur to slug Shapiro, although that thought crossed my mind as well, but it would have been understandable. There’s only so much abuse, ridicule, discrimination and bullying one can take before one says “Enough!” and vows to fight back.

        Trans-bashers aren’t doing it because they’ve been harassed by trans people all their lives, they’re doing it because they’re psychologically defective.

        Intention counts.

    • franklinb23

      Kind of, yeah. If you can’t settle disagreements without violence, you’re a thug, and you would have proven his point

      • Sean Taylor

        (gasp) a thug? at 60? another life goal met, where’s my geritol!

  • Pugsandcoffee

    What a fucking baby. I wish Tur had knocked him across the room.

    • franklinb23

      That would be classy and oh, such a womanly thing to do!

      • Toasterlad

        Ah, there we go.

      • Octavio

        My, but aren’t we terribly worried about woman-like behavior today. What’s up with you harping on about “feminine” behavior? Did you lose your purse this morning?

      • NZArtist

        You don’t know many women, do you?

      • NZArtist

        Woman beating son rioting.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tXSmCXZAuQ

        Or just google ‘women fighting in supermarket’

  • JustSayin’

    So when Shapiro’s testicles finally descend will someone please do a DNA test on his kid…..cause if he’s straight the god really does hate Jews.

  • noni

    Ben’s still refusing treatment for his bi polar.

    • Tor

      He doesn’t even have a polar, let alone, bi.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    What else needs saying……

    • LonelyLiberal

      Don’t pick on the chihuahua. One of my favorite dogs is one, and she’s hyperactive, cheerful, snuggly, and constantly trying to get into your lap for a cuddle.

      • Cuberly

        The other day at Home Depot I saw a handyman/construction dude with a small chihuahua walking behind him. The dog was so well behaved. Constantly looking at it’s owner for cues on when to walk when to stop when to hurry up. Was soooooo freakin cute. You could tell that the dog was just doing it’s daily thing and was loving every second of it. It’s tail up high and trotting along…..the guy really took pains to make sure the dog was nearby too. They where such a cute pair.

  • zhera

    The Devil’s spawn has spawned? It really IS the end of the world!

  • Ninja0980

    About time this asshole was with someone who can put him in his place, even if it’s only temporary.

  • BEN SHAPIRO is an acronym for Bizarro Egocentric Nebbishly Subhuman Hate-filled Apelike Putzy Inhuman Reactionary Oddball. And he’s cissexist to boot.

    • Octavio

      Veery, very good. 🙂

    • Clive Johnson

      Hey, that’s not bad.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      That works…

      • Wow – nicely illustrated!!!!

      • Tor

        Nice. Next time do something with those amazing eyebrows.

      • Blake Jordan

        I know people joke about it, but he honestly does look like an “adult” Damien…
        The eyes show he is lacking a soul!!!

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          The quotation marks on “adult” are most appropriate.

  • Ben Shapiro is such a pathetic child …

  • franklinb23

    Im not a fan of Shapiro, but is it feminine to threaten to beat him up? Besides, if you have to resort to physical threats it’s because your arguments lack merit

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      It has nothing to do with femininity. It has to do with manners. Shapiro (btw, are you Ben, little right wing troll?) was a total non-empathetic jerk… but, unfortunately, her response was inappropriate. But that’s what commercial TV is all about: the circus.

      • franklinb23

        No, I’m gay. I just find the lack of coherence on this issue to be irritating.

        Look, I’ll call people whatever they want to be called. But just as I mock Christians who insist the world is 6000 years old because their faith says it must be so, Im going to take issue with men who insist that words mean to everyone else what they mean to them.

        • Octavio

          You’re not terribly bright. For your own safety I recommend you stick at the shallow end of the gene pool.

          • franklinb23

            Are you a gay man? If so, would you a date a pre op female to male who still had a vagina? If not, that makes you equally as bigoted and narrow minded because you refuse to see them as the male they insist they are.

            As I said, I’ll call people whatever they want. I’m not changing my reality to suit them though.

          • zhera

            Please seek help.

            PS. dating =/= treating people with respect

          • franklinb23

            Of course. Caitlyn is Caitlyn, etc. I also think a number of trans folks have achieved a sufficiently close approximation of the opposite gender to be legally classified as such. To say the physical aspect is irrelevant is just asking too much.

          • zhera

            “Asking too much”?

            Who made you king? It is not for you to decide what is to much or not. Educate yourself on the issue before you continue to debate this.

          • Porkie

            Yup – but I think that you are a bit confused about the pre-op thing.
            Surgery is not a prerequisite of transitioning.

          • Porkie

            ..absolutely….

          • Octavio

            Again, you do not possess the shiniest brain cells in the human pot. Get back to us when you have matured.

          • Clive Johnson

            What if I were to call you an idiot? It would be offensive and needlessly so. You’ll get treated based on how you treat others. If you go around insulting trans men and women don’t be surprised if they don’t take it lightly.

            In fact, calling a male to female trans woman a man has a meaning in our culture, but you have to be culturally literate to understand that. Incorrectly referring to such a person as a man is an intentional sign of disrespect, and has associations with anti-trans abuse, discrimination, bigotry and criminality directed against them.

          • Clive Johnson

            This wouldn’t have anything to do with bigotry (you don’t appear to understand the meaning of the term), but with personal preference–aesthetic and sexual.

      • Which is very likely why they asked Tur as a guest. In the short time she’s been out as trans she has gained a bit of a reputation…

    • Octavio

      Damn right it’s “feminine” to beat him up. Obviously, you’ve never threatened a mother’s family.

      • Beagle

        Or watched a Real Housewives show.

    • Toasterlad

      Your definition of femininity has nothing whatsoever to do with Ms. Tur. She doesn’t need your validation, and, I’d bet, would viscerally reject it.

    • zhera

      Since when does a woman need to be feminine at all times, or even any time?

      That’s a sexist way to think, no matter trans or not.

      • franklinb23

        If one can have xy chromosomes, a penis and a gruff demeanor and still be a woman, help me out here … what does the word mean, exactly?

        • Porkie

          It needs a little empathy to grasp… but here goes; as a gay man, you know that you are a gay man – even if you are passing for straight, and even if the whole world tells you that it’s a choice or a phase you are going through; you just know from as early as you can remember that that’s who you are. It’s like the lady says “I was born this way” As a trans person you know that your outer gender does not match who you are – it’s the same really.

          • BaddogLtd

            Beautifully stated buddy.

        • zhera

          It means that gender and biological sex isn’t always the same.

    • Yeah! Why didn’t she just flirt with him or maybe faint? That’d show him!

      That said, the physical threats would’ve been wrong for *anyone* to say.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    ““What are your genetics, sir?”

    Shapiro should be asked the same. What chromosomal defect causes Twerp’s Syndrome?

    • My response to little monster Ben: Who are you referring to as sir? If you mean me, you mus be blind. But I can tell you one thing about my genetics, there is a gene that codes for a “long androgen receptor” and that is why, while I may have a Y chromosome in the 23rd chromosome pair, I was never male in the first place. Now, as to you – when they assembled that bag of semi-decayed body parts to assemble you, how many times did they have to shock that body to get the heart beating?”

  • RKitty01

    someone needs to bitch slap him

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    I would have punched him. Zoe is twice the man I’ll ever be and 3 times the woman I’ll never be. I would have punched his smut face.

    • Tor

      I like the way you use words.

  • BaddogLtd

    At least we can all agree on Ben’s genetics

  • pleasebereasonable

    What an unbelievable prick…..

  • Clungeflaps

    Ben Shapiro looks like he is on the autism spectrum. A lot of them look like they only went through puberty partially. I really can’t be too offended by someone that’s an obvious Sperglord. He probably beats off to My Little Pony cartoons.

  • 2amor

    I think Dr, Drew should have ask Ben Shapiro to leave the conversation and the stage. I think Zoey Tur should have sent little Ben home in an ambulance. Ben is an obnoxious little know it all asshole. He brought nothing to this conversation.

  • Marides48

    What a little whining twerp!

  • Michael

    In Homophobia, Inc., if you grope your sisters or accuse others of being sexual predators (while hiding sexual predators in your own family), that’s okay. But being transgendered is a big no-no!

  • Steverino

    What an odious little pipsqueak.

  • BaddogLtd

    Awww somebody get Fuckboy his doll before he starts crying.

  • DonnaLee

    Ben, you’re showing your feelings in a great way, and showing how your people are a small-minded hateful group. And his false dichotomy (always its about Nazis) is disgusting.

    • Clive Johnson

      And for a moment there Ben appeared to want to attribute his ridiculous comparison and the offense it caused to everyone else, as if they were responsible for any comparison he just happened to come up with.

  • TampaZeke

    I understand her anger and frustration with that little piece of shit but the moment you put your hands on someone and make physical threats your argument loses credibility and you lose the high ground. Shapiro knows that and that’s why he tries to provoke such reactions. When people fall for it, he wins. He knows good and damn well that his arguments are vacuous so he goes for the style points. It’s common among conservatives. DON’T PLAY IN THEIR SANDBOX!

    • Six Pins Delores

      Meh! I still appreciated what Tur added even though she did not make Ben unconscious.

    • BobSF_94117

      He’s like a mini Westboro Baptist Church.

      • franklinb23

        Even Westboro has its defectors. That’s why I try very hard to avoid the argument being nothing more than a shouting match (and certainly not devolve into physical violence).

        People change their minds, but generally speaking, it’s not going to happen by slapping them around.

    • I would have gone into the genetics and ontology, and schooled his little oversimplified high school genetics on on the science. Bennie the little monster probably believes the world is flat.

  • The Professor

    Why is Shapiro complaining about being bullied like a little pussy boy? If he considers Zoe a man, as he says he does, why doesn’t he just call her outside to the playground to fight to like the 5th grade juvenile he is? My bet is she would kick the living shit out of him and still not break a nail. 😉

  • Jack

    It’s the attack of Eddie Munster

    • Cuberly

      Ha! Lost Boy indeed.

  • tomfromthenews

    Shapiro is awful, but I don’t care much for “Zoey Turd” either. She’s a pretty awful person herself, always calling attention to herself and promoting herself as the “first transgendered reporter” on TV. Which she is most definitely not. I have no use for either of these people.

  • Queequeg

    That’s the first time I’ve ever seen him on video. He really is an arrogant little prick. Fortunately no one else on the panel was buying what he was selling. I always thought of Rich Lowery like that, but Shapiro surpasses him in assholiness.

    • uhhuhh

      LOL at assholiness. That is the perfect word!

      Assholier than thou! Love it!

      • Queequeg

        Thanks.

  • Sam Rothstein

    It’s like the panel discussions Phil Donahue did back in the 1970’s but then it was about gays and lesbians. Screams of “mental illness” and such. Haters never change, they just look for a different victim.

  • J̶a̶l̶a̶p̶e̶ñJoe Smithson

    I love her! If only she would have growled, “Go ahead, make. my. day.”

  • Regan DuCasse

    Shapiro is saying all this to an award winning chopper pilot who risked life and limb in combat zones, over the Los Angelse riots. And rescued twelve people from a pier that was collapsing in a storm.

    THAT alone should have had Shapiro having some respect for the FACT that being transgender doesn’t disqualify a person (or inhibit them), from being a courageous pilot or world class athlete.
    And just WHAT has that pussy, Shapiro accomplished. EVER?
    I can’t stand him.
    The cost to society, are people who are gay and transgender being KEPT from their full potential as their skills and interests warrant.
    If Ben Shapiro fell off the roof tomorrow, the world would be better off. I bet he never thought of THAT, arrogant pisser that he is.

    • Tor

      If he fell off the roof the chances are possible that the person catching him would be a gay or transgendered person.

  • Sam Rothstein

    The obsession conservatives have with sex, genitals and stereotypes is truly bizarre. Conservatives perpetually live in the years 1980-1985.

  • TreGibbs

    Why is anyone even giving that little shit a platform to do an interview?

    • Six Pins Delores

      Lil’ ben provided a face for antithesis on this show.

  • TJay229

    OMG
    This is GRAND Prize…!
    I love this. She lit this whining bitch up and meant every word. Bravo Zoey!

  • Outlaw Woman

    Ben Shapiro, for being a well educated and (on paper at least) intelligent person, cannot express himself without resorting to the same ignorant smarm as a junior high drop-out.

    Everything he has touched in his adult life has fallen apart (Truth Revolt, etc.), so now he is making a desperate grab for the caboose of the anti-trans-hate train.

    Zoey Tur doesn’t really get any kudos from me either …
    shame on Drew Pinsky most of all for trying to recreate this decade’s “Satanic Panic” with those two pawns.

  • The Professor

    LOL – now he is threatening to call the police? He has a very interesting conception of assault. What an ass.

    • BaddogLtd

      What a pussy. Awww you don’t get to continually insult someone to their face without consequence? What a little fucking crybaby. And now everyone knows it. Go crawl back up your mothers c#nt you little wuss.

    • Bad Tom

      The police will probably threaten to slap Shapiro themselves for wasting their time.

      • BaddogLtd

        Hah! And you kept the avatar too. Luv it : )

        • Bad Tom

          Seems to suit.
          OT, but related: I’m taking motorcycle racing lessons. My racing name is badtom, a nickname I was given a long time ago by a programmer on my team at Oracle, after a particularly contentious meeting where I won a big, important fight.

          • BaddogLtd

            Heh heh. Have fun. Be safe. Watch out for the cops! ; )

          • Bad Tom

            That is amazingly cute. And so is the dog!

            One of the points of going to a race track is there are no cops! Of course, there are race officials, but they don’t care about you going really fast. Indeed, they like it.

    • Kissmagrits

      Zoey’s grasp in his scrawny neck might have turned into a revenge kiss, too. Ptooey!

  • Mark

    I would have liked to slap the living shit out of him. He’s a fucking punk with a collection of ‘life experiences’ shorter than his own dick – and yet his eyes only see the real reality. Well little bubba, the next time you look in the mirror – face the reality that you’re one ugly motherfucking douchebag.

  • olandp

    Little Benny Shapiro is biologically an asshole

    • Little Monster Bennie is a random assemblage of partially-decayed body parts, animated in a perverse attempt to create an evil doppelganger of Eddie Munster.

      • Beagle

        …and those are some of his better qualities.

    • Kissmagrits

      That probability give me pause – somebody might be cloning thousands of round, puckered little “beetle-browed Bens” in a secret Southwest desert location.

      In reality, Ben is what we can expect when one’s genesis is made possible through a pin-hole leak in mommy’s diaphragm. I’m assuming that’s how GWB began – – –

  • BaddogLtd

    I’ve noticed a lot of people saying they can understand Zoey’s anger but she shouldn’t have done that. Well I’d like to think I can understand Zoey’s anger too, but I can’t. The car full of homophobes who drove by didn’t know I was a prime target for their violence and abuse just by looking at me. They knew with Zoey. Every day. Maybe after a lifetime of being attacked for having the nerve to walk out the front door she’s decided she’s had enough. If Zoey, as an individual, not the face of the LGBT community, has decided she’s not going to take another shovel full of shit thrown her way, than good for her.

    • “Maybe after a lifetime of being attacked”

      I’m pretty sure she transitioned extremely publicly just about a year ago, and then immediately began touting herself to the media as the voice of trans people and an expert in the medical and biological aspects. And no, I don’t like her media persona, she’s done some damage in the last half-year, like stating as an authority that sexual orientation can be changed with hormone treatments. She also repeatedly tried to out Caitlyn Jenner before she was ready, and said that trans men are “caused” by PCOS and could be treated or prevented with estrogen.

      However, the sentiment you expressed is still true and *no*one* should be attacked for being what and who they are, even if they’ve only been out for five minutes!

  • JCF

    If Benji DIDN’T go home in an ambulance, it shows Zoey has WAY more self-control than I would have!

  • uhhuhh

    I think we’re missing part of the story here. Ben Shapiro was completely predictable and obnoxious. But FAR more offensive, in my view, was the caustic, sanctimonious SJW attacks coming from Segun Odoulowu. Clearly, nothing would satisfy him short of eradicating all white trans people from public advocacy. To respond to Jenner’s touching and thoughtful remarks with that “check your privilege” fury was ridiculous and disgusting. If anybody needed a punch in the mouth, frankly, it was him. He apparently thinks the ESPY is awarded for Oppression Olympics.

  • seant426

    He’s vile.

  • Happy Dance

    Ben sounds like a big ol bottom queen in denial!

  • goofy_joe

    These little pricks want to control every aspect of other people’s lives. He needs to go home, love his family, and leave us the fuck alone.

  • Ireyon

    Meh. I don’t like either of them. Shapiro is a poisonous gnome and Tur doxes people on Twitter.

    Pot, meet kettle.

  • Palto

    This is the first time I ever heard this little titmouse speak. His voice is as annoying as the rest of him.

    Great to see him humiliated.