ARKANSAS: Another Renegade Clerk

After consulting with the Liberty Counsel, the county clerk of Van Buren County, Arkansas has distributed a memo which declares that her office will not be issuing same-sex marriage licenses.  Via the Arkansas Times:

Pam Bradford, the Van Buren County clerk, circulated this memo to all county clerks today announcing her intention to defy the U.S. Supreme Court and have her office refuse to issue marriage licenses. She was out of the office when I called, but an employee confirmed the memo and said, as yet, no same-sex couples had presented themselves in the county to obtain a marriage license. Bradford’s resistance is contrary to the position taken by both Gov. Asa Hutchinson and Attorney General Leslie Rutledge. Even the anti-gay Family Council, which is promoting ways in which people opposed to marriage can avoid participation in the process, distributed the advice from another religious legal organization that the best means to avoid compliance is to have someone else who is willing to do the work do it in place of someone with objections. Bradford has taken this a step farther. Bradford is a Republican and attends Shirley First Baptist Church according to her Facebook page. The clerk’s office is in Clinton.

Van Buren County has a population of 17K and bans the sale of alcohol. (Tipped by JMG reader Jordan)

UPDATE: Has she caved already?

Channel 4’s Greg Yarbrough tells me at 5 p.m. that reporter Marci Manley has talked with Van Buren Clerk Pam Bradford, who has not returned my calls. She tells Manley that she’s spoken with an Arkansas attorney, Mike Rainwater, who provides legal advice to county governments through the Association of Arkansas Counties, and is now saying she will issue marriage licenses — and treat customers “with respect.” This followed by about an hour a phone message to me from Mathew Staver, head of the Liberty Counsel in Texas, which said it had agreed to represent Bradford to defend her in resisting issuance of licenses. Moral: Local advice better than that of outside agitator.

  • S1AMER

    Once again: If you’re not willing to serve ALL the people who pay the taxes that pay your salary, resign.

    • People4Humanity

      You’d think that would not be such a hard thing to understand. Clerks are glorified filing cabinets.

      • clay

        Clerks are in charge of local elections and vital records. In some places they double as registers of deeds. Yes, they also manage offices, but they often have more impact on citizens’ economic, personal, and even political lives than do the mayors.

    • HadenoughBS

      Well there ya go. This GOPer Baptist bitch and her underlings are too f**cking sober to enjoy their sad pathetic lives and do their damn jobs.

      • Nic Peterson

        I’ll drink to that. Who in thier right mind would live in a dry county?

    • HadenoughBS

      According to an update report from the Arkansas Times, she’s now going to issue marriage licenses to gay couples and treat all applicants with respect! And, yeah, her family’s Facebook photo indeed is a Confederate flag.

      • Traxley Launderette

        Apparently MARTYRS FOR JEEBUS LLC rejected her resume. The position has been filled.

        My guess is that that heinous chunky ombré hair color disaster was not the look they were after.

        • D. J.

          They must have been looking for Faux Gnus Blonde.

      • Nic Peterson

        T is for Trailer Trash!

    • Gest2016

      This whole incident is as ugly as her over-tweezed eyebrows, thin lips and pancake makeup. Oh, and eye-shadow treatment that screams, “Got punched in the face by my last John.” #sorrytobebitchy #uglygoestothebone

    • Cyril

      you know she will still be cashing her checks

      • Nic Peterson

        but will she give more to the Jeezy, to compensate for the sinz? Catholics figured that math out years ago, it still works with the color-treated stupidz.

    • Good Shot Green

      I’ve said it before: If your religion prevents you from doing your job, then get a new job or get a new religion.

      • StraightGrandmother

        I comment on a right wing Catholic website and someone there posted that he was a photographer and most of his business was weddings and that the law in his State said that he could not discriminate. He takes the gay wedding jobs and does not say anything to the couples but then he says he donates his fee to Alliance Defending Freedom. I have no issue with this, he is serving ALL the public and what he does with his money is his business.

        • Sk3ptic

          As long as he acknowledges this up front with his clients I’m ok with this. Somehow I doubt he makes any disclosure at all.

          • StraightGrandmother

            No he does not say a word, photographs the gay marriage the same as a straight marriage. That is what we want Skeptic isn’t it? The same service. He IS giving he same service.

          • Sk3ptic

            I kinda like knowing who the Chick-fil-A’s are, myself.
            If someone feels like taking a gay job taints their money so much they donate it to an anti-gay cause, I’d rather move on to a vendor who looks at it as any other gig.

          • John30013

            Caveat emptor and all that. There is no way I would choose my wedding photographer without getting to know them and their views in detail. It’s true that they are selling a service to the public, and in places with public accommodation laws that include LGBT people, that means they have to serve us.

            But it’s also true that the nature of wedding photography involves the photographer working closely with the marriage party over a long period of time (several hours at least) to do the actual photography, and then more (possibly much more) time to do the post-processing, editing, etc. (Compare this to a baker, who might meet with the couple for an hour or two to design the cake, do tastings, etc., and might have some additional contact with them during the process of making the cake; but once it’s delivered the baker is out of the picture.)

            You want that photographer to really be “in your corner” and to enjoy the wedding, otherwise you’re not going to get the best result. There is no way I’d hire a wedding photographer who wasn’t 100% supportive of my nuptials. (I wouldn’t hire an unsupportive baker either, but at least that’s more of an arms-length transaction if I had limited choices.)

    • RB118

      OK so she’s putting her sincerely held religious beliefs aside for her paycheck. Yeah, just how strong is your belief? ‘Ask and ye shall receive…’. But don’t ask for god to pay the rent or the electric and she KNOWS that. I don’t care how much fucking faith they have most will back down when reality knocks on their door.

      If god answered prayers I’d be pissing aphrodisiac wine and shitting bold bricks.

  • ben-andy

    Fire up the BBQ, we got another bigot to char.

    • ted-

      I don’t eat meat anymore, but I’ll gladly watch others eat these a-holes’ charred flesh.

      • ben-andy

        Naw, was just going to roast her until some money juice flowed out.

        • ted-

          Roast her good!

      • KCMC

        was informed yesterday it might not count if I didn’t swallow.

        • ted-

          You always swallow! It’s more intimate. Oh wait, we’re off topic.

          • KCMC

            right on target. shoot!

          • ted-

            Not in the eye 😉

          • KCMC

            (saying ahhhhh)

          • ted-

            🙂

  • JT

    Shirley First is surely last!

    • People4Humanity

      Stop calling me Shirley!

      • StraightGrandmother

        For The WIN!

  • crewman

    Would this be contempt of court?

    • Kate

      Not yet. Someone will likely have to sue her, then an injunction gets issued, then it’s contempt.

  • Bruno

    Figures, they keep coming out of the woodworks. On a positive note, Promo Missouri is now reporting only 1 county not issuing, and that bigot Linda Blessing of Schuyler County is now complying. Also, ballotpedia reports that all counties in Nebraska are complying per July 6th, so presumably renegade clerk Michele Zimmerman of Sioux County is among them.

    • ben-andy

      Bruno, some day, maybe even very soon, your avatar of SP might be the only public visage of her. It is a happy thought.

      • Bruno

        This is how she looks to most people in their minds.

    • ted-

      So many of them women. Given that the bible rates them 2nd class citizens at best.

      • Nexus1

        There aren’t anywhere near as many men in ‘the church’ as there are women. Statistically it was always going to be predominantly women.

        • Bj Lincoln

          It gives them a chance to get out of the house and talk to adults once a week as well as get away from the husband. Men will stay at home to get a break from the hard work, dealing with people, kids and the wife.

          • Nexus1

            I was thinking more about the Baptist and Pentecostal churches since Liberty Council is more in line with those faith traditions and most of the clerks seem to be as well. In those churches most of those women are desperately single. Believe me most of them if they had a husband would have to be restrained from chaining him to them…literally. lol In that context, the issue is usually that most men don’t like the whole idea of fealty to God and church hierarchy as well as the restraining moral standards that those faiths demand and the long as hell services that take up most of the day. In those faith traditions women can have a level of importance that they don’t feel they have outside of the church. These clerks are no doubt power tripping on ‘taking a stand’ for God and being a ‘martyr’ for the cause.

  • bkmn

    How long before she finds out she may be on the hook for damages, legal fees and court costs?

    • clay

      I wonder if the state will press for her removal, as well?

    • Rocketeer500

      Shhh…. don’t tell her that.

      That’s the best part, she’ll find out in court, with the Liberty Counsel defending her.

      • Doug105

        Did she even have enough smarts to check their track record? My money is on no.

        • JoeNCA

          They just said “Jesus” a bunch of times and that’s all it took to convince her.

          • TampaDink

            I’ve done that before….when stubbing my toe.

          • Bj Lincoln

            I’ll bet you are correct. That and a few lies about money. She is screwed because Jesus.

          • clay

            “Liberty!” “Largest, fastest growing school!” “Federal attorneys!”

            David Barton. online. unethical appointments.

          • BuckyB12

            Probably told her they could get her on Fox News too, and her pastor thought that would be a great idea.

          • Chris Baker

            Bingo! She’s going for martyrdom. She’s hoping to be fired. Then she will sue for “religious freedom!” But her problem is that she forbade the entire county office from issuing licenses to SS couples, so she’s going to lose. (Those facts will be lost during her martyrdom tour. And her legal fees will be paid by donations, of course.)

          • bkmn

            Money donated to her won’t be going to Republicant candidates.

          • Robincho

            Yeah, the cat food only stretches so far.

          • clay

            Uh, she IS a Republican candidate.

          • StraightGrandmother

            Do you think that Indiana Pizza joint who got $800,000 in donations will chip in and help her? Some how I doubt it, when people come into money they are usually pretty greedy and find any reason in the world why they shouldn’t turn around and help others. Once they get the money they tend to keep ALL of it.

          • perversatile

            just like “the FarSide” Jesus Blah Blah Jesus Blah Blah Jesus Blah…

      • bkmn

        You know LC is probably not forthcoming with that info.

        • Bj Lincoln

          I think they are outright lying to them.

        • clay

          Do their student interns even KNOW that info?

    • Gigi

      She’s being represented by Liberty Council. I don’t think that they’re even aware of that.

      • clay

        Apparently, they weren’t aware that she dropped their asses.

        • Gigi

          Really? When?

          • clay

            by 5:00 pm yesterday

          • Gigi

            Hahahahaha! I guess she did her due diligence and realized they’re nothing but a bunch of rubes.

    • StraightGrandmother

      Yeah just ask Jonah how well this works once you LOSE in Court. Didn’t they just say that they owe like 3 million in attorneys fees to the plaintiffs who sued them in New Jersey?

    • John30013

      Check the update. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if that attorney (the competent one, not Liberty “Counsel”) told her exactly that.

  • oikos
    • Blake Jordan

      I loved that movie.

  • anne marie in philly

    crackpots indeed; it’s THE LAW, bitch – comply or GTFO!

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Girl, don’t be pissing us off.

    Look what we did to your hair the first time.

    • barracks9

      “They’re called ‘highlights’!”

      “No. No, they’re not.”

      [Last line to be read in Kathleen Turner’s voice from ‘Serial Mom’, right before she creams the lady for wearing white.]

      • TampaDink

        In this case, “highlights” is the appropriate term because I’m pretty sure that her “stylist” was high when he/she did that.

        • D. J.

          That’s what happens in dry counties….

          • TampaDink

            They might have to drive to the next county to buy booze but meth is probably readily available throughout the county.

      • Robincho

        The creamee being, of course, Tanya Hearst…

    • clay

      You don’t like the Komodo Tiger look?

    • bkmn

      To get an idea of how intelligent she is, think about the fact she paid someone to do that to her hair.

      • KCMC

        or did she? Several of (semi-rural) girls on my caseload have done this.

        • clay

          I imagine my Kansas hairdresser sister interacting with her as she walks into the shop with her tale of woe:

          “uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.” [notes in the log-book ‘repair job, extra 30 minutes’]

          • KCMC

            OMG, stopped for directions at a small Excelsior Springs salon, “And Hair We Are (drawl twang).”
            Epic Steel Magnolias set/cast/scene.

          • clay

            My sister’s is “Hairitage”, but it’s Great Depression retro with aqua and white hexagonal tile, oxblood leather, and chrome, with a little bit of Route 66 / Santa Fe Trail / Chihuahua (the state, not the dog) thrown in, not that Confederate battle flag bullshit.

          • Michael Abbett

            I almost choked on a Popeye’s chicken tender when I read that.

          • KCMC

            choke that chicken, buddy.
            but srsly, don’t choke on it.

          • noni

            There’s also the “Curl Up and Dye”.

    • Homo Erectus
    • KCMC

      again…

  • bkmn

    Obviously Liberty Counsel’s plan is to try to get enough of these cases that they can get one of them to SCOTUS to try to get their religious exemption power. I would guess LC is not telling these people that they will be personally responsible for the fines, court costs and lawyers fees.

    • Chris Baker

      Except she ordered the whole office to not issue licenses to SS couples. She overplayed her hand and will lose.

      There are so few of these people who will refuse, and Liberty is trying to make a federal case out of it (literally).
      I wish we just could not give them the satisfaction but going to another county. Yes, it’s not right. Yes, it’s an inconvenience, but they have got the bait hanging there. Can’t we just enjoy this victory for a few months without poking the snake?

      • IcyFaye

        Its never that simple. This victory is hollow if unenforced where its supposed to be law, and its not like the couples being denied go out of their way to find offices or courthouses where they’re likely to be denied.

        Just like the previous civil rights battle over marriage, even after the supremacists, theocrats and fascists lose, they drag everything out to delay the inevitable. No, as uncomfortable and shitty as the situation is, these acts cant get even an ounce of leniency.

    • Rand503

      any attorney, such as Matt Staver, going around trying to tell people should disobey the law, should be disbarred. He is not wiling to be a martyr — he wants someone else to do that. If he loses, he slinks away, if he wins, he basks in glory. Total grifter.

  • JT

    Arkansas can’t stop disgracing itself as a state. With this kind of thing and Hucksterbee foaming at the mouth, all it can do is conjure up images of the Little Rock Nine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zkUpBctt0A

  • MarkOH

    Obviously she does not know anyone who is gay. Look at that hair! UGH.

    • barracks9

      My first thought was that she had the look of a woman who’d “thrown more than a few softballs” in college…

      • bkmn

        The softballs she threw at the back of the football team bus?

      • clay

        Generally, the three causes of homophobia are (in no particular order): universalizing the trauma of an early negative same-sex experience, fear of one’s own homosexuality, and teachings since childhood. I don’t know that these are mutually exclusive.

  • RJ Tremor

    Sounds like grandstanding to me. Siddown and do yer job.

  • Drayfield

    Do they really think they’ll be able to keep their jobs? Crazy

  • Sam_Handwich

    maybe her brother threatened to withhold his nightly fingerfucking if she served TEH GAY

    • ZhyKitty

      *crying laughing*

      • Christopher

        There be a “Duggering” going on! 😀

  • Bruno

    The current bigot hitlist (excluding Alabama), including some question marks that may no longer apply, but I haven’t confirmed that they’re complying yet…

    ARKANSAS: Van Buren County Pam Bradford
    ARKANSAS: Randolph County Rhonda Blevins ?
    TEXAS: Irion County Molly Criner
    TEXAS: Hamilton County Debbie Rudolph
    KENTUCKY: Rowan County Kim Davis
    KENTUCKY: Casey County Casey Davis
    KENTUCKY: Green County Billy Joe Lowe ?
    MISSOURI: Schulyer County Linda Blessing ?
    NEBRASKA: Sioux County Michele Zimmerman?

    • Bruno

      I’ve confirmed that Billy Joe Lowe and Linda Blessing are complying.

    • barracks9

      I saw a comment about Kim Davis from Rowan County, alleging that she’s been married 4 times. I’m not one to go ’round spreadin’ rumors, but it would be mighty interesting to come up with those stats on all the rogue clerks.

      • Bruno

        What I find even more scandalous is that she calls herself a Democrat.

        • ZhyKitty

          Appalling. She should be drummed out of the Party.

          • TampaDink

            And then unanimously voted off the planet.

      • JoeNCA

        If only there were a county clerk’s office we could round up these numbers from.

      • ben-andy

        Heck, that means Ms. Davis is probably related to more than 1/2 the country raht there.

    • karen in kalifornia

      Add the judge in Ohio who “wasn’t in”

      • Bruno

        These are about licenses not ceremonies. There are unfortunately dozens of individuals who won’t marry couples.

  • Gustav2

    If I lived there I might want to get married there…but the reception? No way.

  • sword

    The county had better make sure that their liability insurance is paid up.
    And Pam…good luck fighting the Supreme Court!

  • BearEyes

    sounds like a loverly backwater.
    See you in court.

  • bobbyjoe

    She’s a Republican?

    Get out of town!

  • MrRobotoLA

    She consulted with the Liberty Counsel? Bad move. Their track record in this question isn’t so good.

  • DaddyRay

    Please provide a list of the marriage licenses you have denied to couples who have been divorced, had a child out of wedlock or were wearing clothing of different fabrics.

    • Six Pins Delores

      *crickets*

  • JT

    I’d love to see idiotic lawsuits like this drain the coffers of the “Liberty Counsel” and even of Jerry Falwell’s shithouse of a “university”. Some exemplary damages might be enough.

    • Herald

      The problem is they are doing this for notoriety and fund raising. Given their base they will likely succeed and the coffers will stay full. Sad but that is the way they and ADF work. Liberty must be on a campaign to horn into ADF’s funding base by showing how they are even more extreme.

      • JT

        If there were a couple of enormous exemplary damage awards, that might do what exemplary damages are meant to.

        • Nexus1

          It would have to total at least 40 million because I remember a report saying that the ADF had that much in it’s coffers. Hate pays well, sadly.

  • it still sort of floors me that there are counties where booze is totally off limits. almost makes me want to be a liquor store owner on the county line.

    • barracks9

      Wanna bet how many of the clerks in dry counties have family members running moonshine and other contraband?

      • KCMC

        meth country

        • barracks9

          It’s all fun and games until the trailer-lab blows up.

          • KCMC

            work takes me to rural MO trailers. Hardly fun, #EveryDayanAdventure.

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Sounds like my mom

          • KCMC

            I am your mother. Where’s my hug and why don’t you call?

          • Joe in PA

            You have my condolences. 🙁

          • oikos

            Hope you own a handheld taser.

          • Sporkfighter

            Is there another kind? Some truck-mounted fully automatic machine-taser? Wouldn’t the Ferguson cops have loved something like that!

          • KCMC

            want a belt buckle taser (for work).
            Ass shooting otherwise. Please.

          • barracks9

            Hmmm…let’s see if this works…

          • KCMC

            I see you’ve been in my work satchel.

          • oikos

            Mine is a walking stick with a bonus flashlight. Hike N strike.

          • Sporkfighter

            I have a walking stick that will stun ya just as well as a taser, given a couple of seconds to deploy it!

          • KCMC

            collared shirt, clipboard, and a smile rolling up in foreign car scares a clear path most days.

          • Robincho

            Read “Fourth of July Creek” instantly. It’s dedicated to the most vulnerable among us, and it doesn’t matter that you’re 4 days late…

          • KCMC

            just ordered. Eager to tear into. Grateful for suggestion.

          • Robincho

            I read voraciously, and as literary irruptions go, this from Smith Henderson would be almost impossible to best. I’m sure that with you, Peter will resonate. (And for once, no double-entendre…)
            Enjoy it, KCMC! You can thank me later.

          • KCMC

            love peters that resonate.

          • RaygunsGoZap
          • pj

            ray guns go boom

          • Todd20036

            Heh Heh Fire Fire Fire!!!!! Heh Heh eh Heh

          • Robincho

            Then it gets hilarious!…

    • Bj Lincoln

      It is a great investment. You should see the parking lots just inside the Ohio line from WV on weekends and holidays!

    • ZhyKitty

      Dry counties and being unable to buy alcohol on Sundays is VERY common in the South.

      • Christopher

        Talk about crimes against nature!

        OMG! THE HORROR!

      • JTC

        I HATE the rule about not buying alcohol on Sundays here in Alabama. I remember working one Sunday at a local Walgreens and not being able to sell wine to a Swiss family who were traveling through. One woman said, “We have had such a long day driving and just want to drink and relax.” I was so embarrassed. Why are letting outdated beliefs rule our way of living in 2015?

        • B Snow

          In my area of GA we were unable to buy alcohol on Sundays until a year or two ago – someone FINALLY got it on the ballot and of course it passed. There are some limits — in our county on Sundays, you can only buy it between 12:30 PM and 11:30 PM. But hey, I can get wine or beer with the groceries now, so yay.

          It never made ANY sense, considering you could walk into any bar around here on a Sunday and get completely drunk. Maybe they were trying to force people to drink socially, rather than alone in a darkened room in their house? That would be my preference….:)

          • Mark

            In NM can’t buy it until after 12.00 noon Sundays.

        • Robincho

          It must be hell when the only blue thing about a red state is its laws…

        • tcinsf

          Michigan had that rule when I lived there. First error was asking for the liquor aisle at the grocery store. SECOND error was trying to buy beer on Sunday.
          “Sorry sir, we can’t sell you that.”
          “Of course you can, here’s my ID.”
          “No sir, it’s Sunday.”
          “I know its Sunday, the games on in 2 hours and I need beer, so lets have it.” “SECURITY!!!!”

      • barracks9

        And yet all of my southern friends are mortified to hear me speak of northern weddings with CASH bars. “Waddya mean I gotta pay for booze at a reception??!?”

        • clay

          “It’s unBiblical!”

        • Kevin G

          Cash bars?! What is that?!

          We considered three things important for our wedding: open bar, good food, good DJ. Accomplished them all. The ceremony location, what is said in the ceremony, etc. are all secondary. But a cash bar?! I faint

          • Six Pins Delores

            Congratulations! Many happy years!

          • Sporkfighter

            Open bars are on the way out in many places. The liability involved for the venue and the host in giving people all they can drink for free is too great. If you’ve ever been to an event where you’ve been given one or two free drink tickets, that’s why.

          • tcinsf

            I’ve got the vapors just thinking about it.

        • Six Pins Delores

          Well YEAH! Beside that, where is the open bar and the all you can consume half shell appetizers?

        • Robincho

          I always check first. It’s gotta be hot and cold running martinis, or I don’t show…

        • Homo Erectus

          My northern friends from states with “state stores” used to ask me “Is it true you can buy booze in the gas stations in Florida?” Yup – fill ‘er up.

        • tcinsf

          I’M horrified to hear of cash bars at a reception. Charging guests to drink is well beyond tacky – either provide the liquor or don’t.

      • bkmn

        In MN you can’t buy wine/liquor on Sundays. So glad I now live in Washington where you can get beer/wine/liquor/pot/hash seven days a week.

      • fuzzybits

        The county that my father was from in KY. is a dry county. Luckily WV is right across the river.

        • bkmn

          And WV is happy to have the revenue and tax from your purchases. I don’t understand why dry counties want to give that up.

      • Michael Abbett

        You can’t buy alcohol in Indiana on Sunday either, except in restaurants. No carry out. They made fun of this in the Burger Chef/Moon Landing episode of Mad Men. Indiana, the northern most southern state.

    • Ed Burrow

      I used to live in South Bend, In. Back when I used to drink (a lot!), I’d routinely drive the couple of miles to Michigan on Sundays to get beer. I wasn’t alone, there were *lines* of people there, most with Indiana license plates doing exactly what I was doing. Indiana lost out on so much revenue.

      • tcinsf

        Odd … as I said above, when I lived in MI (80s) there were no alcohol sales on Sunday. Almost got the police called on my because as a true Californian, I’d never ever heard of such a thing as blue laws.

    • tcinsf

      Wait, aren’t you in Dallas? My recollection of Dallas was that it was a checkerboard of wet/dry and (odd that most of this didn’t post the first time) the best place to go drinking was Deep Ellum.

    • Homo Erectus

      Or an area Uber driver.

  • KCMC

    as of morning news, still one MO county hold-out:

    At least one county is outright refusing to issue licenses, though.
    Linda Blessing, recorder of deeds in Schuyler County in northeast
    Missouri, cited religious reasons.

    “That is a decision I’ve made,”
    Blessing said. “Biblically, I think it’s incorrect. I think the
    decision that the Supreme Court made was wrong.”

  • Scooter1211

    Here’s her contact info if you want it:

    • Bj Lincoln

      The info didn’t make it. Can you try again? Thank you.

      • JT

        It’s there. Sometimes browsers or Disqus are a little slow.

        • Bj Lincoln

          Thanks anyway. 🙂

          • JT

            Is it there for you now?

          • Bj Lincoln

            I refreshed and got it. Thank you.

          • JT

            Good. Sometimes even refreshing won’t do it right away.

      • Dave_in_PDX

        It’s there. Usually Disqus is slow on the image uploads. I refreshed the page and it came up. Thanks!

  • Bj Lincoln

    How many of these places have had few, IF ANY, requests for a marriage license? Can she really involve everyone who works there? I can’t believe everyone in that office is on her side. That is statistically improbable. Does she realize SHE is responsible for any money needed to fight for her right to be an ass hole?
    I think Liberty is looking for, convincing and lying to those sheeple who will play along to MAKE it look like it is so much more than it really is for their flock. I thought this sort of ‘ambulance chasing’ was very bad form, if not illegal. 99% of the population will never know who and where this is even happening.

    • clay

      1) most
      2) she’s their supervisor
      3) she thinks she’s in charge

  • TampaDink

    I bet that she’d gladly issue a license to Josh & one of his sister/victims.

  • Jan Wesselius

    She is employed by the county. She said she will not issue marriage certificates because of her personal beliefs in some fictional religion. So why if she is working for the county can she do what her religion tells her to do? She should be fired.

    • Canadian Observer

      She should find a job at a BBQ joint, where she can joyfully wallow in the pork – and ignore Leviticus.

  • Blake J Butler

    I blame senator Jason rapert, for this. Filling their head with all that “I don’t have to do it if my religion is against it” montra.

    Yeah they still ban the sale and distribution of alchohol too. Part of that was hysteria from people like the family council who sent out confusing and pointless flyers in the mail across the state last year during election time. I got one last fall, with a “stand up for second amendment rights” vote no on the alchohol amendment this fall. Like really ? What the hell, were they trying to save money and combine flyers, or did somebody needed to be fired for their expensive mistake.

    This bitch’ll find out really quick she has only two options: either to do her job, or to quit and let someone else take her spot who will gladly issue licenses.

  • ArchiLaw

    That’s quite a quiverfull she’s got there!

  • Octavio

    She needs T-shirts made with her face on them. I know many who would love to use them for target practice.

    • People4Humanity

      Hang the t-shirts in the monkey habitats at zoos,
      and let the poo-flinging commence.

  • Cuberly

    Wonder if she comprehends the fact that LGBT individuals in her community pay the taxes that pay her salary. So basically she’s benefited from LGBT citizens in her community already.

    Oh fuck her. Just some more spot-bigot cleanup for Roomba-Kitty.

    http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2346229/roomba-cat-2-o.gif

  • Bill

    I can only see 15 minutes into the future, but can already tell this doesn’t end well for her.

  • Freeman

    Marriage is a constitutional right equally held by all Americans and “is the law of the land and, consequently, the law of this circuit, and should not be taken lightly by actors within jurisdiction of this court.” People really should take those words to heart, even if they do not reside in that particular jurisdiction. The religious crazies are filling her ears with hogwash that will only harm the recipient – not those giving the false advice.

  • Clive Johnson

    The Christian Taliban is being called out like never before.

    • BearEyes

      let the call out continue.

    • JT

      Christian Sharia!

      • Homo Erectus

        Help! I’m being persecuted.

  • JT

    Girl, I think JC himself said that “Render to Caesar” thingy. It’s a goddamn civil document, you imbecile.

  • D. J.

    “After consulting with the Liberty Counsel”. That explains it all.

    Anyone keeping a tally of losses vs wins on “Liberty Counsel”? Or the amount of money they have left clients on the hook for, before vanishing into the night?

    • Bj Lincoln

      Those people do disappear. I wonder what happened to them? Might be interesting to find out how screwed they got.

    • Homo Erectus

      Didn’t they have a convicted pedophile (that pimped her own daughter) working for them?

  • Dave B

    From the Arkansas Times

    UPDATE: Channel 4’s Greg Yarbrough tells me at 5 p.m. that
    reporter Marci Manley has talked with Van Buren Clerk Pam Bradford, who has not returned my calls. She tells Manley that she’s spoken with an Arkansas attorney, Mike Rainwater, who provides legal advice to county governments, and is now saying she will issue marriage licenses.

    • KCMC

      Shazam! BOOM!

    • Dave B

      Oh Look here. I’m so shocked.

      • Gustav2

        She is a Baptist!

        • JT

          Shocking!

          Is she trying to spell “bogus” after “Bradford”.

          • clay

            It’s a small town, that’s her maiden name. “Folks gotta know the people you come from.”

      • bkmn

        She sure does have a lot of brother-husbands.

        • JT

          “I’m a Duggarite first, last, and in between.”

          • grada3784

            I think you put your finger on it.

        • oikos

          Duggar, duggar

      • Octavio

        Typical country folk family portrait — they didn’t invite cousin Sasquatch to join them.

      • Homo Erectus

        Seems like she always picks the losing side.

      • Goodboy

        She’s racist to boot. Oh my. Well, knock me over with a feather.

      • David Walker

        Bubba Jr. looks like he can’t wait until he’s old enough to take off the hat and get the fuck outta there.

        • clay

          I was thinking the two (sons in law?) had probably done some “fishing trips” to “get to know each other” now that they’re “family”.

          • David Walker

            Upon review, I think you’re right. The only question is who was bait?

      • Clive Johnson

        Standard issue right-wing riffraff, but no less revolting.

    • Clive Johnson

      Ah, good. Xtian fundamentalist lawlessness put to a quick end.

    • ben-andy

      WHAT!?! Actual legal advice from someone knowledgeable about County Government Law was enough to trump her religious convictions? Oh, he explained that she’d be personally on the hook for any court costs and she didn’t trust to Jeebus to provide.

      • D. J.

        Last sentence. FTW. Nailed it…and her…..
        She crawled off that cross rather quickly.

    • clay

      Looks like he showed her some things about “Liberty” “Counsel”.

      • bkmn

        Like the liberty her money would have after losing and the fact that they are not there to counsel? I almost wish she had just listened to Staver and lost her case and gotten him and his klan disbarred.

        • clay

          If he does it “right”, she’d have no money left over for a malpractice suit.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      I WILL HOLD OUT TIL THE END FOR JEBUS MARRIAGE ONLY!

      (Reviews estimated costs to herself)

      JEBUS HATH SPOKEN: RENDER UNTO CAESAR! MOMMA NEEDS MATERIAL GOODS!

      • ben-andy

        Momma needs a new hair burner.

      • Clive Johnson

        hehe It reads like a Monty Python script.

    • bkmn

      Damn I was hoping Liberty would have lost her case so she could have sued the pants off them.

    • Bruno

      LOL. Much courage. Much conviction.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Bans the sale of alcohol?!?!?!?!?

    I know one county I will NEVER step foot in.

    • KCMC

      lips

      • oikos

        Don’t think anyone would have wanted to touch anything to those lips even with lots of liquor.
        #carrienationsexsymbol

        • KCMC

          Kiss me, Dammit!!!

          • oikos

            Bwahahahahahaha

          • Octavio

            Carrie Nation? Had she not succeeded in her quest to make ‘Merikuh a dry and sober place we wouldn’t have become the world leader in organized crime. She’s a great example of how religion corrupts and destroys a person.

          • RoFaWh

            Carrie Nation exemplifies a type: the utopian idealist who turns a blind eye to questions like “But who takes away the garbage?” They simply don’t take human nature into account, nor long term and indirect/secondary effects

            People such as she have done —and are still doing — a great deal of damage to the American social fabric.

          • Homo Erectus

            Is that Lorena Bobbitt?

          • Robincho

            Hella fun at parties, this one…

      • Could they be more smug? I can’t imagine any man desiring them in any form.

        • clay

          I thought they were men dressing in form.

        • B Snow

          It looks like it’s from a play. Those expressions are just too over-the-top. 🙂

        • Octavio

          That’s what I was thinking. From a purely lustful perspective none of them are remotely fuckable.

          • The only way any of those women are the least bit fuckable would be if the man had beer goggles on, in a totally dark room, and even then he would have to work hard to forget what she looks like when the lights are on.

      • kevin vincent

        Well e of you are particularly attracive so I doubt you have much orry unless they WERE drunk

      • Homo Erectus

        I pray that none of those lips touch anything of mine.

      • Clive Johnson

        But what about magic mushrooms?

        • noni

          It would take a lot of alcohol and magic mushrooms to cause anyone to touch any of those skanks.

      • Reality.Bites

        Looks like drinking is a win-win.

    • D. J.

      There are plenty of them. Check before going to NC.

      • clay

        and Kansas, and Texas.

      • Homo Erectus

        The Jack Daniels distillery is in a dry county.

        • Octavio

          And it’s the only place you can get a good stiff restorative in Lynchburg, TN.

    • Stev84

      Very, very common in the so-called “land of the free”:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county

      In the South mostly thanks to the Baptists.

    • UrsusArctos

      At one point, one North Alabama “Dry County” had 3 AA chapters and a steady stream of DUI cases going through the courthouse. All being dry did was create those DUIs as folk went across the county line for their booze.

  • SFBruce

    Going against a conservative governor and AG, and even though no one in Van Buren County has applied for a same sex marriage license, this woman makes time to talk to Liberty Counsel, then email all other Arkansas county clerks to tell them they don’t have to do their jobs, and Liberty Counsel will defend them for free. The state of Arkansas actually pays her to do this????

  • Ian

    As the old saying goes, I really don’t trust anyone (sober people excluded) that do not drink.

    • Homo Erectus

      It’s in the buy-bull:

      Proverbs 31:6-7New International Version (NIV)

      6 Let beer be for those who are perishing,
      wine for those who are in anguish!
      7 Let them drink and forget their poverty
      and remember their misery no more.

  • Jmdintpa

    obviously aint no gays helping with that hair.

  • oikos

    Liberty Counsel, inspiring confidence.

    • JT

      Don’t call us; we’ll call you.

    • Hue-Man

      Liberty Counsel/Liberty University is exactly why Canadians are fighting so hard to stop Trinity Western University Law School from getting provincial accreditation before it even starts.

      Here’s a HuffPo article on the recent unanimous Ontario court judgment:

      Trinity Western Grasps at Hypocritical Half-Truths

      http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/douglas-judson/twu-law-school_b_7747408.html

      • oikos

        Hope their accreditation is denied.

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          Here in Canada, we had a “University” like Liberty lose their accreditation precisely because they were anti-gay……it was a nice day, that was.

  • Bryan Del Rizzo
    • oikos

      Funny how being personally liable for damages can change one’s mind on an issue.

      • Gustav2

        It is shocking.

      • Clive Johnson

        Also funny is how that motivates better than Jeebus.

        • Homo Erectus

          Jeebus don’t do reimbursements.

          • clay

            I imagine, neither does Liberty Counsel for consultations.

    • J̶a̶l̶a̶p̶e̶ñJoe Smithson

      LOL

      I’m sure the phone calls went like this:

      clerk dialing Liberty Counsel emergency WWJD hotline: press 1 if your religious freedom has been violated, press 2 if filthy gays, cake, flowers, or marriage licenses are involved, press 3 if your concern involves unanswered prayers or a request for smiting.

      clerk: (Lee press on Nails on phone button clacking sound) 2!!!!!!

      Liberty Counsel Clown Attorney: (Charlie Brown teacher sounds)

      clerk: Wha? Jesus? Martyr? Nationwide exposure and Crowd funding campaign? Hell yes!

      clerk: Viva La Religious Freedom! God Bless Arkansas!

      clerk: “I will uphold the (unconstitutional) law of Arkansas.

      Competent attorney advising city government: (Charlie Brown teacher sounds)

      clerk: Wha? Lawsuits? Civil Penalties? Criminal Penalties?

      clerk: “Why, I declare, I love the gays.”

      • oikos

        Bless her heart

      • RoFaWh

        That last line fails the test of realism:

        No one gives a shit whether the person issuing the marriage license loves them or not. The issuer’s pseudo-religious opinions are irrelevant. Just issue the fucking license and be done with it!

        • J̶a̶l̶a̶p̶e̶ñJoe Smithson

          It’s not realism. It’s snark.

      • noni

        Seems her “deeply held convictions” vanished.

  • TexasBoy

    And another clerk that thinks money for fines, damages and lawyer fees (as loser pays winners attorney fees) mean nothing to taxpayers in her county.

  • RNegron

    “After consulting with Liberty Council…”. I hope she recorded the advice and sues them for malpractice after she inevitably losses.

  • gaylib

    I’m starting to think that we should just ignore this shit. Let them stomp their feet and hold their breath. We won. They are not going to bring bigotry back. They will eventually be rooted out as they find out how unpleasant it is to get their asses sued or their constituents tire of footing their legal bills and vote them out. They are a sad relic of a now bygone era. Quaint almost.

    • Reality.Bites

      Um, if we ignore it, then they won’t get sued.

  • Deanna B.

    Step 1: Court order
    Step 2: Contempt order
    Step 3: Fines. Against her, not the county. $2000/day until she affirms in writing that she will comply with the order. She’ll lose all her assets and GoFundMe won’t save her, since all that money will just go to the federal govt.

    • Sporkfighter

      Best outcome is for her to shut up and do her job. That’s the advice she’d have gotten from a competent lawyer.

    • JT

      It would actually be a good thing then for these moronic refusals to continue since more money from christofascist quarters would be spent on them and less money would be available for the upkeep of their houses of indiocy.

    • Bruno

      The clerks association’s lawyer must’ve had no trouble at all laying out this scenario for her.

  • BoringLawyer

    The linked article is now reporting that she has reversed course and will issue licenses. For once, justice is swift. Now she can focus on fixing her deplorable grammar.

    • Thank you for alerting us to the change of license status.

    • Homo Erectus

      And her hair………

  • AtticusP

    Oh for Christ’s sake! Somebody ought to send these hillbillies back to the fucking skills.

    • clay

      Let’s keep Christ out of this.

  • Six Pins Delores

    “…distributed the advice from another religious legal organization that the best means to avoid compliance is to have someone else who is willing to do the work do it in place of someone with objections.”
    Surely, the YOUNG hag was on double probation regarding future employment.

  • Dave_in_PDX

    Seems she quickly changed her tune after speaking with the Arkansas Attorney, Mike Rainwater. Says she will comply and respect. hmmm

    http://www.arkansasmatters.com/story/d/story/update-van-buren-co-clerk-changes-stand-will-issue/31536/cFkSQt4q3k6Ju3qUNvpO7Q

    • KQCA

      Handsome Roving Reporter Dave_in_PDX is on the job!

    • KnownDonorDad

      Getting the same update from Equality Case Files. Another one *gasp* complies and does her job!

      • Homo Erectus

        She must not be close enough to retirement yet.

  • D. J.

    These Christianist soldiers to fight the new Official Christianist War of Aggression against us LGBTI folks are dropping off pretty quickly once they learn they may be financing it with their own money.

  • Ninja0980

    Sound like a broken record at this point but a clerk’s office isn’t a church.
    Either do your damn job or resign.

    • Homo Erectus

      That’s right. After you do your job, you can go to church and pray for us all night if you’d like.

  • StraightGrandmother

    Oh wait there is more. From a blog in Arkansas, all the above + on Facebook her family Facebook profile pic, they just changed it to the Confederate flag!
    If I find that link again I’ll comeback & edit my comment & add the link.

    • Dave B

      This?

      • leastyebejudged

        When I look at that picture, all I hear is banjos.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    NO alcohol ??
    Gay or not, get the HELL out of there !

  • KQCA

    I have a lot of relatives in Arkansas and I have a lot of relatives in California. Actually, my relatives in Arkansas have made the journey to accept and love all people equally, regardless. My relatives in California are the most backward, racist, homophobes I’ve ever come across. So when I saw this post, I followed links to the local Arkansas papers and read the reader comments. Trust me, this homophobe bitch is gettin’ some heat over this. It’s a new day across America, even in Arkansas. However, I am back here to read because NO ONE can beat the wit and comebacks of JMGers!!!!

    • B Snow

      Good to know, about the comments! I hope they’re coming from the locals. 🙂

    • GreatLakeSailor

      Do you have a link to some local comments? I’m interested in reading some…

    • noni

      Are your California relatives in the interior area of California? As you move further east in all the west coast states WA, OR, CA, the Okies and Arkies are thick and they brought their hate for others with them. They brought the KKK here and it was a large organization at the time. A lot of the Aryan Nation groups still around.

  • JT

    Interesting change. She was all gung ho after talking to the “Liberty Counsel” but changed her mind after talking to a local lawyer. Could it be those Falwellites never intended to help her but wanted her to keep refusing for their own selfish reasons? Hmm.

    • Mike__in_Houston

      I guess he made her an offer she couldn’t refuse, and she was smart enough to realize she didn’t want to find a horse’s head in her bed, especially since there’s already a horse’s ass there.

      Anyway, all’s well that ends well and good news and all of that…

  • Sean

    Time the put the lawless, insubordinate, ingrate, bitch on unemployment.

    You illegally refuse to adhere to American law and perform the duties of the secular civil servant job you were hired to do because you ignorantly believe that your religious beliefs make you above the law and exempt from adhering to the same law that everybody else must adhere to. You think you are special. You are not special, you are not exempt, and you are not above the law. You took an oath to work for, respect, protect, and represent ALL citizens and their constitutional rights and that includes LGBT citizens whether you like it or not. You fill your bank account with the tax dollars of gay couples and LGBT individuals and then you have the unmitigated gall to disrespect them and bite the hand that feeds you. Your salary/paycheck is all the respect you are entitled to, but you refuse to earn it.

    Your religious liberty is: pray to whatever human made “God” you want, worship in whatever house of worship you want, read whatever religious/spiritual text you want, wear whatever religious/spiritual symbol you want – THAT IS IT, PERIOD! You do NOT have the religious liberty to force, demand, or require others adhere to your religion and its definitions nor do you have the right to harass others with it either.

    Your job is to issue marriage licenses it accordance with secular constitutional American law. I don’t care what your personal barbaric religious belief is.

    A clerk who is a KKK member cannot refuse to issue marriage licenses to racial or interracial couples because he or she doesn’t agree with the 1967 Supreme Court ruling, Loving v. Virginia, that struct down interracial marriage bans nation wide the same way the Supreme Court just did with gay marriage bans. You are delusional, ignorant, and arrogant if you do not think the same applies to you.

    You are the employee of the people, ALL of the people, and you will do your job as we demand or get a new one you insubordinate INGRATE. You work for us – not your version of “God”, not the Governor, not the Attorney General, not your church, and not your religious leader. You work for the people, every single person whether you like it or not – whether you agree with the way they live the lives nature gave them. You remember where your bread and butter comes from girl (and I am calling you a girl because you are behaving like a querulous child). Grow up!

    You continue to disregard the duties of your secular civil servant of the people job and you will soon be looking for another and the full weight of the law will come down on your treasonous, insubordinate, ingrate, barbarian head.

    • billbear1961

      Loving vs. Virginia was in 1967, Sean.

      Otherwise, great post!

      • Homo Erectus

        We’ll let him slide on that one BB.
        ((hugs))

        • billbear1961

          XO

      • Sean

        Thank you…..Fixed… ; )

        • billbear1961

          😉

  • Bill T.

    It’s about time that they automated this whole application process and make marriage licenses available online. Fuck these idiot clerks!

    • KCMC

      one of the early male resister clerks pushed for same capacity.

      • Bill T.

        If all those county offices trimmed the useless fat in their departments, the state will save a bundle.

    • Phil

      No. This and driver’s licenses are things you need to have face-to-face to make a preliminary qualification for eligibility. Think about things like mental competency, age requirements, etc.

      • Bill T.

        I’ve renewed my driver’s license twice online. The only face-to-face needed for a marriage license is when the magistrate is ready to marry the couple.

        • billbear1961

          If you show up for the wedding and all your ducks aren’t in a row, the license gets tossed in the trash bin.

          • Bill T.

            The clerk does not fill out the fucking form. It’s the responsibility of the officiant to fill it out properly. For fuck’s sake, you can get your passport application online. If that’s not filled out properly without the proper photo, it gets tossed in the fucking trash.

          • billbear1961

            So, the clerk just hands you the license, just gives you the paper?

            CJ did all the paperwork for our wedding.

            But it was the clerk in Montreal who filled out our license and checked our documents for it.

            Before the wedding ceremony, the officiant asked us questions to verify all the information. And afterwards we and our witnesses signed the marriage certificate.

          • Bill T.

            Everything you mentioned before the actual wedding can be automated. Drivers licenses or other forms of identification can be verified online. Blood tests can be verified by email. Everything can be automated. The Social Security Administration is automating its processes. Marriage licenses can be automated.

          • i have no idea if this is an important thing, but when i got hitched they asked us to affirm or swear to god, in person, that we weren’t first cousins. i suppose we could have signed and provided paperwork/email proof and all that, but there was something official-feeling about that in person experience.

            again, not saying i think it’s essential, but what it felt like to me at the time was the state making sure certain marriages didn’t happen, if they were morally or biologically wrong.

            is that the actual role the state should take in marriage? just making sure a 90yo isn’t marrying 4 teenagers, or Jim and Jane Incest can’t legitimize their union, for the sake of potential children?

          • Bill T.

            Again, there are ways to automate the whole application process to eliminate any judgmental yahoo from interfering with it.

          • Reality.Bites

            You’re talking about Canada though, Bill. We don’t leave the issuance of licenses to illiterate idiots who got their friends to vote for them

          • billbear1961

            🙂

            Vive le Canada!

  • kevin vincent

    Wait she consulted the Liberty Council? The same group who have lost just about EVERY single case they never had? Especially regarding SSM?

  • Michael Smith

    Well that was fast. Looks like she’s backtracking already. I wonder if she Googled Liberty Counsel’s track record.

    https://twitter.com/AnthonyMKreis/status/618916871744569344

    • kevin vincent

      Yeah you,d think before riaking her job she would check out if the guys she consulted WEREN’T completely incompetent lawyers who always lose

    • GreatLakeSailor

      Good comment over at the Arkansas Blog posted by Paying Top Dollar for Legislators on 07/08/2015 at 3:25 PM:

      What would happen if someone in government decided their religion prevented them from issuing concealed carry permits? Would this still be a first amendment issue defended by conservatives?

      • billbear1961

        Excellent!

        They really (potentially) open up a HUGE can of worms with this “religious liberty” BULLSHIT.

        They have no idea where it might go.

        And all because they can’t bring themselves to be CIVIL and treat their neighbours the same way THEY expect–demand!–to be treated.

        They give a FREE PASS to all other “sinners”–certainly to themselves and their pals in church–but WE just HAVE to be punished.

        I’m sick to DEATH of their flagrant HYPOCRISY.

        • Clive Johnson

          Same.

          I’m encouraged by the surprisingly frequent number of comments on, for example, youtube that are critical of both religion and this kind of Christian privilege.

          Still, the religious right has given itself 100 black eyes, but still looks in the mirror and sees the apple of their god’s eye.

          • billbear1961

            Their puffed-up self-adoration is just one more bit of proof that they are ANYTHING but “Christian.”

            Everything about them defies and MOCKS what Christ stood for.

      • clay

        Waiting for a state AG in a capital punishment state to say, “You know what, . . .?”

        • billbear1961

          YES!!

  • BaddogLtd

    Since a few people said they enjoy Betty Butterfield’s take on the various churches I figure I’d post the Baptist one in honor of congregant Pam Bradford https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWUEGzMx_AA

    • KCMC

      YES YES YES!!! I spit at work screen over the Methodist one which she included Baptist who want to drink.

      • BaddogLtd

        Heh heh, I hate to admit it but Betty’s taught me almost everything I know about the various Christian denominations. I feel like I can trust her. She’s just a nice lady lookin’ for a husband, a church to worship at and a doctor who’ll write her a Vicodin prescription!

        • KCMC

          watched GYN exam over lunch.
          Broccoli everywhere.

          • BlueberriesForMe

            I don’t know that means but it sure sounds funny. :=).

          • KCMC

            Check out the many youtube specials from lovely Betty.
            Was my wacky aunt Wanda. Too real.

        • Robincho

          Do you know of her evil welfare-queen cousin, Shirley Q. Liquor? Do NOT run heavy machinery while listening to SQL!

          • BaddogLtd

            Yeah Shirley Q is hystertical too : )

    • Ginger Snap

      That was amazing.

  • Homo Erectus

    Pam, honey – I don’t want your sorry skank ass sitting at my lunch counter, either.

    • Octavio

      She always orders the same thing: egg salad sandwich and an iron port. Then she farts while eating lunch. We have to keep the front and back doors to the drug store open for a whole hour so everyone doesn’t pass out.

      • People4Humanity

        Have you tried boiling the eggs less hard, and using Real Mayonnaise™ instead of that cheap Miracle Whip®? What about adding shredded carrots to the cole slaw? The big ol’ ghurl may need some ƒiber in her diet!

        • Octavio

          ‘Taint our egg salad sandwiches that are the problem. It’s the greasy breakfast (pork belly, grits and white pepper gravy) the gurl eats every mornin’ and the gallons of sweet tea she drowns herself in. She’s got microbes growing in her gut that would sour sileage.

          • GreatLakeSailor

            She’s got microbes growing in her gut that would sour sileage.
            !!!!!!!!!!!

          • Octavio

            Well, it would ruin good sileage, anyway. 🙂

          • Ginger Snap

            You won my love today by using silage in a comment on JMG. I don’t think I’ve heard that word since I was a young farm boy.

  • Queequeg

    The updated version of the story says that after speaking to a local attorney she will now issue licenses. The best part of the updated story is that thr ArkTimes referred to Matt Staver as an “outside agitator”.

    • People4Humanity

      Matt Staver = “outside agitator” 🙈🙉🙊🐵

      author of article forgot “money-grubbing” prefix

      • BlueberriesForMe

        “money-grubbing Christianist douchebag banana-brain hater bigot duggar duggar.”

        • clay

          wouldn’t fit the word count

  • Cyril

    these lawbreakers need to be fired, fined and jailed!

    • Six Pins Delores

      And litigated into POVERTY!

      • Cyril

        there goes the mobile home and beer can collection

      • BaddogLtd

        We’d be doing them a favor. Poverty is the most Christ-like thing these folks are capable of.

        • Six Pins Delores

          Not really. They actively vote against their best interests.

          • leastyebejudged

            It’s sad, but lowest common denominator and fear-based politics works, and it’s not a partisan phenomenon.

  • So, Liberty now means Treasonous? I’m sure Benedict Arnold will be glad to hear that.

  • D. J.

    From the AR Times:
    This followed by about an hour a phone message to me from Mathew Staver, head of the Liberty Counsel in Texas, which said it had agreed to represent Bradford to defend her in resisting issuance of licenses. Moral: Local advice better than that of outside agitator. OUTSIDE AGITATOR. Love it!

  • Dave B
    • PianoGuy

      This is great! Thanks for the link!

  • Ninja0980

    Reading reports that she has changed her tune now that she has spoken to actual lawyers who told her she had no leg to stand on.

  • The Professor

    UPDATE: She consulted a real lawyer who told her to issue the fucking licenses or get fired and sued. So that is exactly what she is fucking doing now.

    • TexPlant

      good thang she done got her some lawyering!!

      • GreatLakeSailor

        Rainwater dun wut lawyanated her!

  • noni

    UPDATE: Channel 4’s Greg Yarbrough tells me at 5 p.m. that reporter Marci Manley has talked with Van Buren Clerk Pam Bradford, who has not returned my calls. She tells Manley that she’s spoken with an Arkansas attorney, Mike Rainwater, who provides legal advice to county governments through the Association of Arkansas Counties, and is now saying she will issue marriage licenses — and treat customers “with respect.” This followed by about an hour a phone message to me from Mathew Staver, head of the Liberty Counsel in Texas, which said it had agreed to represent Bradford to defend her in resisting issuance of licenses. Moral: Local advice better than that of outside agitator.

    • David Walker

      Or perhaps Attorney Rainwater showed her a slip of paper with “Liberty” “Counsel”‘s track record. And mentioned who gets to pay court costs &c. And then Pammy said, “Oh” and the black roots started galloping out of her follicles.

      • KQCA

        ROFL I love your way with words!

        • David Walker

          Thank you. It’s fun.

      • noni

        Apparently now she hates God. She isn’t willing to stand up for him anymore. Just how dedicated to her “deeply held religious convictions” was she? Another Christian grifter.

      • GreatLakeSailor

        So Rainwater doused her enthusiasm, eh?

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          He rained on her holier-than-thou parade.

        • David Walker

          I like that one!

    • gaymex

      That is great news.

      • noni

        I love the addition of “and treat customers “with respect””.

        • David Walker

          Sad she has to be told that.

          • noni

            but not at all surprising.

          • gaymex

            Yes. I would like to hear the tone of that utterance. No doubt it was filled with christian compassion and love for her fellow man–especially the afflicted sodomites.

  • noni

    What a loser. Now she is going to issue same sex marriage licenses. Suddenly her God doesn’t matter anymore. Why does she hate God?

    She is going straight to hell now.

    • BlueberriesForMe

      “Do not pass “Go”. Can not collect “GoFundMe” donations. Must give up all properties, houses and motels.”

  • And yet no one has even applied in her small county of 17,000 people? (Jeez, my immediate neighborhood is bigger than that.) Sounds like she’s hoping to get preemptively fired so she can get a million dollar GoFundMe campaign.

    • Six Pins Delores

      Of course! she does! 🙂

    • Bruno

      Irion County, TX, where another bigot holdout resides, is only about 2000 people. I bet they have a lot more cattle than people. Our side is going to import a couple from elsewhere to get the lawsuit going.

  • BlueberriesForMe

    From the Arktimes.com article comment section:

    “I believe if you inquire and check court records you’ll find Mrs. Bradford has been divorced 3 times and married 4 times”.

    Now why would that not surprise me?

    • KQCA

      She lit the furnace. Let her take the heat.

    • Marc

      This only proves that she’s a big fan of marriage.

    • David Walker

      Ah. Family values. Preserving traditional, natural marriage.

      • Marc

        Again and again. And again.

    • KQCA

      This comment should remain at the forefront of this episode. It’s an important point.

      • BlueberriesForMe

        It would be interesting to know if it’s true.

        • KQCA

          No doubt we’ll find out.

    • Arkansan

      I wonder how many of those marriages were to a sibling?

  • Matt

    Speaking as a child of the 60s in Birmingham, AL… I hope you think it feels good being on the wrong side of history. You can now join the ranks of George Wallace and the many that fell in behind him. Don’t know who he is and what he stood for? Look it up. The internet is an amazing thing.

  • Sporkfighter

    She needs not only legal advice, but spelling, punctuation and grammar advice if she’s going to put anything important in writing.

    1) … county clerks.
    2) … licenses free of charge.
    3) … same sex marriage licenses.
    4) … my religious …
    5) … overstepped its boundaries.
    6) Arkansans voted …

  • D. J.

    Legal fees from the AR Times:

    “With completion of the legal dispute over same-sex marriage, the Wagoner law firm of Little Rock has renewed its request for attorney fees in the state lawsuit — $95,747 for attorney fees, to be multiplied by 1.5 for prevailing in the civil rights case, and $3,485 in costs.

    The filing makes clear that the request is only for work by the firm headed by Jack Wagoner.
    Cheryl Mapleswas the lead attorney in the state lawsuit. She earlier had made a “fair assessment” of the cost of her work at $256,060 and said the amount should be enhanced.”

    So, Arkansas will have spent around $500K on these two law firms fighting Marriage Equality. How much are the losers charging them?
    I hope these states remember who sold them all of those sketchy unnecessary (un)constitutional amendments they passed only to have them overturned. That cost big bucks, too.

  • KQCA

    JMG comments section is the most delicious dish on the planet.

    • bkmn

      Now with 50% more snark!

      • KQCA

        LOL ….and fewer calories!

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Quickest round of Whack-a-Mole ever and this little dino did not get to play! Oh well, another renegade county clerk will stick its head out soon enough. And when it does, … WHACK!

    • KQCA

      Join in! We’re only mid-week here. The story on this woman is still unraveling. She chose to become a celeb and now she’s getting a taste of international fame….as a hypocritical buffoon.

    • billbear1961

      Goooooooooo, little dino!!

  • BlueberriesForMe
    • bkmn

      I hope this gets referred to the state Bar Association so they can reeducate him.

      • BlueberriesForMe

        I expect we’ll hear more about this one in the very near future.

    • KQCA

      OMG this thread is on fire! Thanks for posting this.

      • BlueberriesForMe

        It was posted in another comment on the Arktimes.com article.

        • KQCA

          You would make a great detective. I’m watching my step when you’re around. 😉

    • KQCA

      The judge story is interesting and a bit more serious. Will be interesting to see how this impacts his job position. If his objections are overlooked or accommodated, it opens the door to any number of related issues.

    • noni

      Imagine going up against this judge if you are gay in any court proceeding. His seething prejudice and discrimination has no place in the court room.

      • KQCA

        Good point. We should be asking this in regard to every one of these discrimination incidents. By protesting to do their job, they’re cluing us in as to who should be fired for the bigger picture.

  • Aside from the obvious part about this being illegal, I’m amazed that she gets to speak for all the clerks in the office. Not only does she think her religious beliefs allow her to discriminate but she thinks they allow her to require others to do so too?

    • KQCA

      Yea, I’m thinking the same as you. These types are arrogant enough to assume everyone is in agreement with them and that those who are not will silently submit.

      • clay

        Well, she is their boss.

  • KQCA

    An important point by …..”BlueberriesForMe • 38 minutes ago

    From the Arktimes.com article comment section:
    “I believe if you inquire and check court records you’ll find Mrs. Bradford has been divorced 3 times and married 4 times”.

    Now why would that not surprise me?”

    • MBear

      doesn’t that mean the book were she gets her deeply held beliefs says that she should be put to death by stoning? oh my! I would never wish that on her, but apparently that is her deeply held religious belief

      • noni

        Well no, that rule only applies to you, not her.

        Republican 101

  • How many times has this one been married and divorced?

    • KQCA

      posted by..BlueberriesForMe • 38 minutes ago

      “From the Arktimes.com article comment section:

      “I believe if you inquire and check court records you’ll find Mrs. Bradford has been divorced 3 times and married 4 times”.

      Now why would that not surprise me?”

      • billbear1961

        God, these fucking hypocrites DISGUST me!

    • Arkansan

      She looks as if she has been rode hard and put away wet. Maybe that’s how they got the idea for their business?

  • KQCA

    The conservative crazy club is unraveling so fast, poor Joe Jervis couldn’t possibly keep up with the news stories pouring in.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Would it be un-Christian of me to set her up on a date with Bill Crosby?!

    • David L. Caster

      Cosby

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        oops.

        • Michael Rush

          it’s ok , i’m setting her up with Bing Cosby .

          • KQCA

            I’d match her up with Mike Tyson or OJ Simpson. Since she’s goin’ down she may as well enjoy the ride.

    • Arkansan

      Her look tells me she doesn’t have to be drugged to put out.

  • KQCA

    “Ya’ll pay a visit, ya hear?”

    https://www.facebook.com/brandonnpam.bradford

    • MBear

      That is one scary ass klan of ugly

      • KQCA

        All I can say is, she has had one hell of a day. She wanted notoriety. Hope she’s enjoying it. These oppressors can cry “intolerance” all they want. We’ve had enough of their oppression.

        • MBear

          I’m sure they have plenty more to give, and there is plenty more American LGBTs will take under the guise of being ‘the better person’.

          • Michael Rush

            she’s posted the confederate flag ,
            the sickness of americans who think they are ” normal ” in one
            facebook page .

          • clay

            In some regions, that is the norm.

  • Michael Rush

    her 15 minutes of bigotry are over , her friends will be so impressed .

  • Ninja0980

    Poor Liberty Council.
    They can’t find a clerk who is willing to go all the way and be stuck with the huge legal fees when they lose.

    • KQCA

      Life’s a bitch.

    • Reality.Bites

      Maybe they could get Cottonelle elected somewhere.

      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        Public Restroom Commissioner. She’ll keep them well supplied.

  • KQCA

    On her Facebook page, she’s a devout evangelical proud of her children pictured kneeling before deer carcasses and grinning with rifle in hand, a devoted Republican who was elected to her county clerk job this past November. Oh, and she also has posted a variety of quotes, quips, and pics of favorite items such as this dumpy number:

    • Good Shot Green

      Wha? Da fuh?

    • Mike in Texas

      Probably some of the country kitsch stuff from their business, the Rusty Nail Saddle and Tack shop.

      • KQCA

        Yea, it’s that bad 80s country kitsch.

        • clay

          It really is sad how the ’80s pushed so many farm families off the land and forced them to take a(n extra) job in town.

          Oh well, sucks to be her.

      • Arkansan

        It’s good to see she has a rusty nail to fall back on.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    I trust Matt Staver has paid his latest installment on his malpractice insurance.

  • KQCA

    “This Is What Happens To Court Clerks Who Refuse To Issue Same Sex Marriage Licenses” by ThinkProgress

    http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/07/07/3677515/texas-clerk-marriage-lawsuit/

  • Steverino

    Perhaps she heard about Liberty Counsel’s track record and had a “come to Jesus” moment, so-to-speak.

    • KQCA

      Yea, the article update is funny. She was full of piss and vinegar until she had an hour-long legal consultation and suddenly Jesus changed his mind, she is complying with the law and she would no longer talk with reporters about the matter.

      • Nexus1

        lol So true. I think the real lawyers (not fake Liberty Counsel hate group lawyers) told her that she would be in a protracted battle and that it really wasn’t worth it because she would definitely lose in the end and that the state would not support her in her efforts. I think they probably laid down a bit of common sense to her as well, telling her that she was doing all of this not to serve likely only two same sex couple a year in her small county and that she could easily delegate the job to a staff member and not even be troubled by the issue.

        One of the things that bothers me so much about this grandstanding by these clerks is the fact that most of them will not even have to deal with any of these couples personally. They are doing all of this to make a point and show the gays that they don’t like them and to essentially say that “You are all still less that equal in my eyes and I’m going to show you that by denying you your rights, the Supreme Court be damned!” But they want to say they love people huh? From looking at how those two lovely men in Kentucky were treated, that sure as hell didn’t look like love to me.

        • KQCA

          You hit it on the head. And they can’t just do their job, they feel compelled to tell why, cast judgment, AND demean us. They’ve lost any sense of dignity.

  • KQCA

    News report on Ohio incident…. scroll down and you’ll see the evening news video: http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2015/07/08/Judge-wouldn-t-marry-us-same-sex-pair-says.html

    • Nexus1

      Thanks for that. He’s both a bigot and a coward for fleeing from the bench instead of answering questions on the matter. It’s amazing sometimes to see how some people honestly think that performing their duty will get them in trouble with God. He’s probably married dozens of couples he found detestable, but the gays are just a step too far for him huh? It’s all just so annoying. Well these bigots will have to get used to this brave new world we are now in, much like the racist had to a couple of generations ago.

  • TexPlant

    ACLU was about to go all Spider Monkey on her ass!!

    • KQCA

      !!!

      • Tor

        Oh, they’re not so cute after all.

  • KQCA

    And now for this special Public Service Announcement. (A good reason to get married in Texas.) 😉 https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/07/08/meet-the-only-gay-clerk-issuing-same-sex-marriages-in-ultra-conservative-texas/

    • teddy21

      Too bad he’s a republican

      • KQCA

        I’ve slept with worse. :-O

        • Ninja0980

          Me too.

          • KQCA

            Be proud. 🙂

  • John P.

    All’s well that ends well.

  • Bruno
    • KQCA

      You mean “almost” flew under our radar….but didn’t get passed Bruno on the job! Well done.

      • Bruno

        Ballotpedia helped. You’re welcome 🙂

        • KQCA

          ..and Bruno even cites his sources. 🙂

  • Paul Weidig

    From Van Buren county? How ironic! Martin Van Buren, our eighth President, was almost certainly homosexual, like James Buchanan, our 15th President.

    • KQCA

      Did not know that. Hmmm… bedtime reading.

  • Bruno

    And another fun tidbit. Loving County, TX, a previous holdout, will now issue licenses to same-sex couples. It has the smallest population of any county in the United States, with 82 residents.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Good news from Loving County. I’m Lovin’ it!

  • Bruno

    MISSISSIPPI is now 100% compliant.

    • Ninja0980

      Heh, at this point I hope someone does challenge our rouge clerk then.
      It’s embarrsing if freakin MS is more compliant then us.

      • Bruno

        Isn’t there a Deputy Clerk in Ledyard who handles same-sex marriage licenses? I’m sure there are many counties in Mississippi where the top clerk won’t issue, as there are in other states.

        • Ninja0980

          There is but if she’s not there, as was the case when the lesbian couple tried to get theirs, they are SOL.
          And that should never be the case.

          • Bruno

            Yeah, they actually brought that up in the meeting for Stark County, ND when they gave power to another person to issue same-sex marriage licenses: http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/news/local/3781357-stark-county-recorder-refrain-issuing-same-sex-marriage-licenses

          • Ninja0980

            The angering part for me is how she brags about how she broke the law, yet nothing was done.
            In the grand scheme of things, it shouldn’t matter because Ledyard is so small but still, a bigot is a bigot.

          • Bruno

            The only thing we can do is keep our eyes on them as much as possible. She bragged, as most of them have, about defying the law, but they will be recorded in history as bigots. There are probably many more of them who are doing this quietly, delegating the icky gay duties to some subordinate who may find it equally as icky but doesn’t have a choice. Only so much we can do until people evolve.

          • Ninja0980

            Indeed..thank goodness for the younger generations that aren’t as bigoted as their elders.

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            … or are raptured.

      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme
    • billbear1961
      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        Are you telling us that the Mississippi has frozen over?

        • billbear1961

          lol

        • hudson11

          nope, just hell.

  • Liberty Council is lying to these pathetic people.

    • billbear1961

      They lie to everyone.

      It’s what they do–they’re liars.

  • Ninja0980

    Funny to see how many clerks are caving once they talk to a real lawyer.
    Same thing happened here in NY.
    Once bigoted clerks found out they would be on the hook when they lost, they changed their tune in a hurry.
    Same thing is happening here.
    These clerks can talk a good game but at the end of the day, they aren’t willing to be pawns in Liberty Council’s game.

    • billbear1961

      But . . . but . . . but . . . JEEBUS!!

  • John T

    Southerners romanticize the word “renegade”. Don’t call her that, call her “incompetent”.

    • KQCA

      Yes, thank you for bringing that up. I had the same thought, We’ll forgive Joe, our favorite Yankee.

    • noni

      miscreant works too.

  • Obviously, there are no gay hairdressers in Van Buren County.

  • Daniel

    Her picture reminds me it’s been a long time since I saw “The Stepford Wives”.

  • Fyva Prold

    A commenter on the article in Arktimes said that Mr Rainwater is no Ted Olson or Mary Bonauto (far the opposite) and would have been very happy to tell Mrs Bradford to go on with that, but his professional duty was to tell Mrs Bradford that she is SOL (DOL?).

  • LADY MABELINE

    Someone get this bitch a drink.

    • billbear1961

      And yet another husband!

      Her fifth, my lady! I mean, she’s had four, so far, if reports are correct.

      Such is her devotion to the Lord, and the sanctity of marriage.

      • LADY MABELINE

        Ramen to that.

  • agcons

    Flagged.

  • “Local advice better than that of outside agitator”

    Especially if the outside agitator has never won a case.

  • TexPlant

    Why to these states like Arkansas and Alabama just keep reminding me of the movie My Cousin Vinny! Angry Sky Monster please never let me break down while driving through these patches of evil!!

  • Jasper Taylor

    There’s always starbucks…