Former President Jimmy Carter: Jesus Would Have Approved Of Gay Marriage

As you’d expect, Teabagistan is losing its shit.

  • Stev84

    Who cares? What Jesus allegedly said or didn’t say is completely irrelevant no matter the topic.

    • oikos

      Agreed. I have no use for mythology, but I do like President Carter and if he makes the fundies seem unreasonable, then that is a good thing.

    • Doug105

      /

      • Reality.Bites

        While I agree with you, these are the terms under which Carter expresses himself. It’s basically his way of saying that HE approves. And for a 90-year-old Baptist that’s pretty awesome.

  • Joseph Miceli

    How must it feel, to be the last, most concentrated haters? How does it feel to be judged as morally lacking, unevolved, hate filled and sour by the majority of Americans? How does if feel to be marginalized?
    Jimmy Carter has ALWAYS been a good man. He’s a lot closer to Jesus than any Franklin Graham or Bill Donahue ever was. My thanks to him for his kind words.

    • oikos

      OT
      I can’t see your handsome face in your new avatar. 🙁

      • Gustav2

        We have a religious topic so he is trying out his halo.

        • Oscarlating Wildely

          (Cue Beyonce song.)

        • Joseph Miceli

          Ha!!!! That would most definitely be horns!!! Not a halo.

      • Joseph Miceli

        I’ll see what I can do.:)

    • Joe in PA

      yeah, what oikos said…can’t see that handsome face!

      (oh yeah, good post as well). 😉

      • Joseph Miceli

        Too blurry?

    • TampaDink

      Concentrated haters. What can we do with them?
      Ooh, I know, we could send them all to camp.

      • oikos
        • TampaDink

          That one looks nice. The cabins are close together, creating a concentrated sense of community.

          • oikos

            Ssh, sense of community just shrieks communism. Let’s wait until they’re inside to tell them it’s a collective where everything is shared.

          • Rocketeer500

            I hope there’s no running water, or medical facilities at this camp. That would be Socialism.

          • oikos

            That would be un-american. The only free thing will be cholera, nature’s gift as gawd intended.

          • Doug105

            Hypocrisy, its whats for dinner.

          • oikos

            No surprise that takers are the biggest whiners about helping others.

          • Homo Erectus

            Do as I say, not as I do.

          • oikos

            Benghazi!!!!

          • GayEGO

            Right on! That makes GOPs the takers as they take more money from the government and the Democrats give more money to the government.

          • TampaDink

            Not a word from me. ;->

        • Clive Johnson

          “Deposit Bibles in the red receptacles. Do not lose your receipt.”

      • Rocketeer500

        Send them to Camp Spanka Spanka. After a week, they won’t be able to sit for a month.

        • TampaDink

          They might enjoy it too much.

          • Emma Duncan

            that was my thought, when I considered “Camp Ronald Reagan”

        • GayEGO

          Too funny!

      • Doug105

        Camp Toxic Waste.

        • TampaDink

          Perfect name, especially since Auschwitz & Dachau have already been taken.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Yes, DRAG CAMP! We will force them to participate in compulsory homosexuality. They will learn to walk in heals, apply false eyelashes, what gown bests accentuates (or hides! ) their figure, but most importantly of all, the “Pat Robertsons” and ” Freddy Grahams” of the world will learn how to TUCK!!!

    • Doug105

      ..

      • DonnaLee

        That’s why there are fewer than ever, most have had to admit two of more of those things are true.

        • Nic Peterson

          Most can’t wrap their head around the idea that Jesus didn’t have blonde hair, blue eyes and would most likely have given gay marraige a great big Mazel Tov! If anything…

          While it’s fun to try to introduce this subset of our species to facts, they remain quite immune. If ingnorance is bliss, the Teabagus Americanus are the exeption which proves the rule. Miserable Fucks — every one of them.

          • DonnaLee

            Trust me, what’s really fun is 2 years into Obama’s Presidency, chasing my niece around the house saying “Did Obama come for your guns?” and “Why didn’t Obama come after you for your guns?” I pretty much did it every time she mentioned him in a derogatory fashion. Sometimes you have to take your pleasure in the little things!

        • MBear

          There just seems to be fewer because most of them have already been whisked away to FEMA camps! DON”T YOU SEE ITS A CONSPIRACY!?!?

          MURRIKKKA! (fok yeh)

          • DonnaLee

            I just don’t, after an anti-Democrat rant, put up with “They’re both the same party.” crap from anybody. It’s why I refuse to deal with BP here when he starts that noise.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Stolen and posted to facebook, where my brother can see it!

        • OrliJoe in Fla

          Brilliant!

    • another_steve

      Carter’s words on a woman’s right to choose are troubling though. Women sometimes die in the U.S. when medically safe abortions are denied them.

      Continue your admirable evolution, Mr. Carter.

      • gewaite

        “Evolution”? Opportunism and pathetic attempts at seeming “relevant” and “progressive”-rather like his religion, come to think of it.

    • Emma Duncan

      It’s been fascinating, to say the least to watch “Christains” regularly shit all over this actual Christian who is an authentic man of God, while their devotion to Reagan, who pretended to be one, in order to get their votes

      • Joseph Miceli

        Olympic level mental gymnastics. These are awful people, pure and simple.

      • gewaite

        Reagan and Carter were two sides of the same coin.

    • gewaite

      Jimmy Carter is an irrelevant opportunist. Supported segregation until the mid-sixties; when elected President told his staffers who were “living in sin” that he wanted them to get married “and I’m serious about that”.

      Even “progressives” like Tip O’Neil and Eugene McCarthy found him an embarrassment.
      It’s 2015 and you know that Jesus would approve of gay marriage? Wow-how come you didn’t know about Jesus approving of black/white marriage in 1965?

      • Joseph Miceli

        “irrelevant opportunist.”
        Considering the amount of charity work this man has dedicated his life to, I don’t believe he is either. The man changed over time. Everyone does. You are welcome to your opinion of him, but I simply do not agree.

        • gewaite

          “The man changed over time” in extremely convenient directions.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Convenient? For whom? All the people he helps?
            Look, I get it… you don’t like him. I just can’t buy your argument that Jimmy Carter is a horrible human being. Sorry, we have to disagree.

          • gewaite

            No, he’s just not worth any trouble or veneration or much praise, a mediocrity who struggled hard to get to the presidency and dropped the ball on a number of occasions, frustrating his own party as least as much as he did the Republicans.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Again, your opinion. I think you are wrong. We must disagree.

  • Gustav2

    The Constitution doesn’t care one way or the other.

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Of course he’d approve! The Devil can finally make an honest man out of him.
    http://www.religifake.com/image/religion/small/1401/deleted-scene-jesus-kissing-devil-religion-1390225272.jpg

    • Gustav2

      Well, what DO you think they did for 40 days and nights!

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        And that was *before* the second coming.

        Here til Tuesday.

        • Gustav2

          Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            And try the veal.

            Actually, don’t. Meat is murder and all that. Sorry, after dinner buzz kill.

          • LonelyLiberal

            Delicious, delicious murder.

          • Six Pins Delores

            Don’t forget Knives, nice quiet knives.

        • TampaDink

          Til Tuesday? That’s fine. But…
          Hush, hush. Keep it down now.
          Voices carry.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            I was coming out ( all the way ) in KC when that tune was hot.

          • KCMC

            OMG, Til Tuesday played here in KC the month that I moved here 11/’86!!!

          • TampaDink

            Seems like you & I came out about the same time. (Okay, I came out to my mom in March of 85 but I let my 4 older siblings figure it out for themselves.)

          • oikos

            I dunno. What are words for if no one listens anymore?

            Edit: was thinking of No more words, Berlin rather than missing persons.

          • TampaDink

            You still earn points for the stroll down memory lane. ;-p

          • Joseph Miceli

            I loved that song so much more than “Take My Breath Away,” but guess what gets radio play on the oldies station?

          • Joseph Miceli

            I LOVE that song!!!

          • TampaDink

            Me too.

      • McSwagg
    • JT

      It does say he was tempted by the devil.

      • People4Humanity

        and then what happened?

    • Clive Johnson

      Or, perhaps an Anglican priest:

      “After much reflection and with certainly no wish to shock, I felt I was left with no option but to suggest, for the first time in half a century of my Anglican priesthood, that Jesus may well have been homosexual. Had he been devoid of sexuality, he would not have been truly human. To believe that would be heretical.”

      http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/20/was-jesus-gay-probably

      • Todd Allis

        Interesting, but as an asexual, I’m not fond of that last part.

      • gewaite

        Anglicanism-Unitarians in drag.

    • Joseph Miceli

      The Devil is a bottom, you know.

    • JCF

      Very naughty. ;-p

      • gewaite

        But predictable.

  • oikos
    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Surely, I’m not the only one that thought that Bri Bri looks like he’s practicing his best blow face am I?

      (And Perkins’ ears! Howdy, Howdy Doody!)

      • Sam_Handwich

        i thought that was a cow’s asshole photoshopped onto Brian’s face

        • oikos

          Practicing chewing pud instead of cud.

        • Steverino

          More like a bull’s asshole, considering what comes out of it.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        I believe he suffers from RWKSC*
        It’s a common condition of the Religious Right and their Republican pets.

        *Right Wing Koch Sucker’s Cramp

      • NZArtist

        This, you mean?

      • tom dumptee

        lol,he looks more like ‘dilly-dally’… fits in perfect w/fischer,aka ‘Mr. Bluster’

        • Craig Howell

          Boy, are we dating ourselves tonight! Glory!

          • tom dumptee

            so true,lol,so true

        • Larry Ft Pierce

          Mitch McConnell in his first role as Mr. Phineas T. Bluster, on the Howdy Doody Show, 1951. Notice the strings controlling the flapjaw?

          • tom dumptee

            ha ha ha, great picture,perfect!

      • McSwagg
    • Homo Erectus

      It’s enough to make you believe in evolution, I tell ya.

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    Teabagistan LOST! End of the discussion. Let them fume at the mouth, and keep doing their meaningless monthly polls to see who is the flavor of the moth tea-candidate who said the most stupid thing. They LOST

    • Joseph Miceli

      Which means they are LOSERS!!!
      I love doing that!:)

  • Six Pins Delores

    He appears to be a kind hearted man and product of his TIME.
    And we move forward!

  • TampaDink

    Thank you Pres. Carter.

  • bambinoitaliano

    If only I tell the world what jesus told me about his followers. Unfortunately he made me swear to god not to divulge our conversation.

    • Reality.Bites

      What a coward, running to his dad.

      • bambinoitaliano

        God has quite a temper. Thunder and lightning. Poor jesus is a very scare boy. Maybe that explain the psyche of his followers. Seeing shadows everywhere and getting jumpy.

  • Steverino

    He’s come a long way from wishing that the subject of gay rights would “just go away” when he was president.

    • TampaDink

      So have the rest of us who were around back then.

    • Craig Howell

      Hey, Carter allowed the very first meeting of a delegation of gay activists with White House staff in 1977. One concrete result: The IRS abandoned its long-standing policy of refusing to grant tax-exempt status to gay community groups. How soon we forget!

      • Homo Erectus

        If he won a 2nd term, I wonder how different the early days of “gay cancer” would have been from what it was under Regan.

        • JCF

          ^This. Jimmy, being an actual follower of Jesus, would have felt obliged that the Federal government, minimally, show COMPASSION that Raygun couldn’t be @rsed about.

    • BobSF_94117

      I suspect what he would have preferred go away was the nascent GOP exploitation of gay rights to divide voters.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    I love seeing Marc Lamont Hill ( Interviewer ) whenever I can.
    Its possible that I may even have a slight crush on him.

  • Mark

    This is a very nice sentiment from President Carter but…We are talking about civil marriage and I don’t give a flying fuck about the xtian’s jesus. Period.

  • radiofreerome

    Why should it matter? We don’t live in a theocracy.

  • jerrelt

    I have always thought that Mr. Carter was one of the most decent persons we have had serve as president.

    • Robincho

      And Reagan’s campaign against him was absolutely swinish…

  • Reality.Bites

    I’m not saying Jesus existed, or that he would have approved of marriage…

    But I’m saying it’s probably why they crucified him.

    • Homo Erectus

      And if he came back today, they’d crucify him again – quickly.

  • leastyebejudged

    If you’ve been around a while – this is AMAZING.

  • DaddyRay

    I guess we can agree to disagree on the abortion issue

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      Yes… but we can agree that, if he discharged his constitutional duty in the matter without letting his religious views interfere, its a good thing.

  • KnownDonorDad

    If I recall correctly, Jesus actually didn’t recommend marriage at all. That’s one of those passages that virtually no one brings up. The main thing is that certain Christian denominations are approving it.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      Seems, according to their book, that he didn’t like divorce. But the fundies ignore that. They’d rather blast against same-sex marriage, which he didn’t mention at all.

      Cherry Picking and Sour Grapes.

      • clay

        They ignore divorce only once no-fault procedures spread out of Nevada. Once it became easy, the temptation was too much, even for them. They prefer their temptations to be distant and abstract.

    • Bob Black

      It was Paul who spoke against marriage but said you should get married if you MUST do so to avoid sinning (fornicating).

      • Homo Erectus

        Daddy said he never seen a ring that could stop up a hole………………..

        • McSwagg

          Holes get stopped up left and right when I wear my cock ring. You should try it.

  • Jeffg166

    Not macho republican Jesus who is totally celibate.

  • rednekokie

    I suspect he is absolutely correct — especially when you consider that all Jesus ever preached was about and encouraging love.
    Those who would deny happiness to others certainly do not preach love.

  • Toasterlad

    Would Jesus have also agreed with you that it was a states right issue, Mr. President? You know, like you declared it was when you were trying to get your grandson elected?

    Put not your faith in politicians, people….ANY politician.

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    For what it’s worth, Jimmy Carter is seen by many moderate Christians as a good man who did wonderful work for charity after his presidency. If he manages to sway some who are sitting on the fence, that’s a positive development.

    Of course, the fundies will have their hissy fits, blasting him for not be a real christian… and that’s also a good thing. Again, some moderates who see Jimmy Carter as a good christian, might be more totally turned off by the fundie haters.

    • another_steve

      All should applaud his position on marriage equality. He needs to continue “evolving,” though, on a woman’s right to choose.

      How he “knows” his god’s mind when it comes to abortion rights is quite the question.

      An email from god, perhaps?

      A recent tweet?

    • Gene

      he is on the moderate edge of conservative evangelical protestantism. The mainlines (Methodists aside) are already on our sides (most of the mainline churches rang their bells when the marriage ruling came down, and many have contingents in the pride parade here in ATL).and the catholics LAITY are largely on our side….when someone of Carters stature Huff post or NewYorker. For a lot of young gay people, especially in the south, this means a lot more grandfathers will react to their coming out in a very different way than they might have before. He carries a huge culgtrual weight here (if not political…no…certainly not political)

  • TreGibbs

    He may have not been the best politician, but he’s such a good man.

    • Homo Erectus

      And Billy just cracked me up 😉

      • TreGibbs

        OMG – forgot about him. My relatives used to drink “Billy Beer”. I remember how sweet his Mom – Lillian – was. Good people…

        • Robincho

          Unfortunately, she said, “Gays? They don’t have ’em where I come from” —
          or words to that very near effect.

          • TreGibbs

            That is unfortunate…

  • Trog

    Random aside: I’m reading “Citizen Vince,” a crime mystery by Jess Walter, and it takes place during the Carter/Reagan election and includes quotes from their campaign and debates.

    Carter says things that are self-critical, reflective and somewhat downbeat, about himself and the country (this was during the hostage crisis and economic downturn). Such an odd contrast to today’s gung-ho “We’re No. 1” rally cries of all politicians.

    Anyway: Thanks President Carter. Coming from a family of Southern Baptists who look up to you, but are confused about marriage equality, I can say that your words indeed matter.

  • Tom (Winnipeg)

    I always considered former President Carter a good, sensible and
    fair-minded person. I had no idea that his thinking would be so
    all-inclusive and encompassing. What a great man, regardless of what
    Christ’s opinion might have been.

    • Robincho

      Jimmeh says he doesn’t have “verse in scripture” to back up his opinion on Jesus’s approval of gay mar-
      riage. Um, that’s because NOBODY has verse in scrip-
      ture about it. And THAT’S because they ain’t none…

  • J̶a̶l̶a̶p̶e̶ñJoe Smithson

    Every time I see a pic of Carter I think it’s Pat Robertson and I get all worked up and ready to fire off a missive.

  • billbear1961

    It’s so good to have you back where you belong, President Carter–fully on our side, on the side of JUSTICE!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlKcMJwcgq4

    Yes, the Jesus we see in the New Testament, in the Sermon on the Mount, if he knew what we know today, would understand and approve.

  • Clive Johnson

    The local power company is reporting a surge in usage, as if many batteries were being charged all at once:

  • Sporkfighter

    I’m not sure about Jesus, but approve, Yoda would!

  • jerrelt

    I just read some recent right wing attacks on mr. Carter for his statement that jesus would approve of gay marriage. The attacks range from such intelligent and reasoned comments as calling him a libtard, saying he is senile or suffering from dementia, actually saying he is secretly a muslim, to calling him a tool of satan. All naturally say he is biblically illiterate. I find him to be that rare species; a sincere thoughtful christian politician. He alone of recent past presidents has not used his office to get rich but has used his connections and influence to help others. he has been active in volunteering to supervise central american elections to ensure democratic elections. He has been very active in his strong support for habitat for humanity in building homes for the poor. He has been very active in working to eradicate a particularly horrendous parasitic disease in africa. He has actually usd his office for good as opposed for monetary gain. His acts seems the more “christian” to me if judged by the teachings of jesus.

    • Joseph Miceli

      And that’s probably what infuriates these bigots. That a REAL Christian shows them for the fucking hate filled animals they are.

  • houstonray

    May not have been the best politician (probably TOO honest), but there is no doubt, he has done more good in his post presidency years than just about any of them. Thank you Mr. Carter. Your words might just help someone who is struggling.

    • Robincho

      I remember that Ford golfed a ton…

      • Edmund Allin

        While chewing gum? :p

        • JW Swift

          Don’t think he could walk and chew gum at the same time, let alone golf.

  • j.martindale

    Just last year, Jimmy felt this was something that should be decided by the states. I know he is Baptist and southern, and all of us have had the chance to evolve on the issue. I am glad he has. His age and history give him a bit of an excuse for his evolution.

    http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/27/jimmy-carter-texas-doesnt-want-gay-marriage-thats-right-texas-people/

    • JCF

      Jimmy is 90, and I honestly believe he was just a little bit confused by the wording of the question last year. His heart’s been in the right place for a good long while.

  • Jacob

    The Tbaggers may be losing their shit, but Carter is, always has been and always will be THE shit (in the good way in case that’s unclear).

  • Galvestonian

    God Bless you Jimmy…you the man !!!

  • Carter’s no scholar of ancient religions, but it’s nice he thinks his god loves us too. i’ve always been a fan of Carter, a man too honest to be president more than once.

    • joe ho

      and given the heavy emphasis on sexual purity codes it’s highly improbable that a jewish rabbi or teacher of the roman period would have approved of homosexual sex acts, which would have been included in the concept of porneia/sexual immorality-sins of the flesh.

      while the efforts of lgbt christians to create a gay-friendly jesus figure who would validate them are understandable, the historical evidence of jewish and early christian attitudes toward homosexuality militates against them.

  • You’ve done a lotta damn good things, but I don’t care. I honestly do not care about religion, yours or any others.

  • Homo Erectus

    My mom used to live in Clearwater (FL). On Saturdays she would get a carload of church ladies together and they would drive to Plains, GA. They would get a motel room and spend the night so they would be up early to go to the Baptist church and sit in Jimmy Carter’s Sunday School class. There was no secret service or any special security that she was aware of. Sometimes, the trip would be disappointing because Jimmy wasn’t there. Most times they would come home feeling truly blessed. Mom was a dyed in the wool republican that wouldn’t ordinarily shake hands with a democrat, but she loved Carter and even voted for him.

  • KQCA

    Former President? i’ll take his support, thanks.

  • Traxley Launderette

    Huzzah!

    I am proud to say that my first presidential vote was for Jimmy Carter. He was then, and has truly proven to be, a kind soul who has acted upon and lived his beliefs. He was among the first to challenge innovators to create alternate energy sources; he was able to keep a cool and diplomatic head in dealing with the Middle East. I believe both he and Gerald Ford had the unenviable task of cleaning up the messes left behind by the Nixon administration; neither were given credit nor thanks. (Confession: I believe that Gerald Ford could run as a Democrat today and score points as a liberal. Things have shifted so far from 1976.)

    He was not a cutthroat politician, which too many Americans saw then — and still see — as a fatal flaw. He didn’t swagger. He didn’t speechify and threaten. His famous speech regarding America’s “malaise” was prophetic. He never pretended to be anyone or anything he was not. I’ve always felt that history will be kind to him.

    • JCF

      My first vote, too! [But, in 1980, the first of WAY too many losing votes in my lifetime. 🙁 ]

  • tomfromthenews

    I always liked “Jimmuh” and feel his place in history will be a warm shiny one.

  • JCF

    Teabagistan always loses its shit over TRUTH.

  • ColdDesert

    Franky he’s just as bad as the rest of the Christians by putting whatever his wants, feelings, needs, arguments etc. are onto a storybook character.

  • anne marie in philly

    oh FSM, bless jimmy carter, a man who has done much good in the world. and, FSM, strike down the teabagistanis wherever they may hide.