Fifth Circuit Court: Obergefell Is Now The Law Of The Land, Don’t Take It Lightly

The Fifth Circuit Court has finally issued its long-postponed ruling on the cases out of Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi. Will this drag the still-resisting counties into the light? Don’t count on it.

  • cowboyinbrla

    Can’t speak for Texas or Mississippi, but in Louisiana, almost all the parish (ie county) clerks of court are either issuing licenses or upgrading systems so that they can. One clerk was waiting on direction from the state, and the state was waiting on this decision. Hopefully that will get the last holdouts moving, both here and in other states.

  • Bruno
    • KnownDonorDad

      Thanks for the summary! I saw the Louisiana map; at the rate it’s blue-ing it’ll be done soon. The pockets of Y’all-Qaeda resistance are expiring one by one. Maybe a week or so more.

      • Bruno

        I believe that one of the 2 parishes, Red River, is on record as saying they were waiting for the 5th Circuit to chime in. There are a couple like this from Mississippi too. This will clear that one up.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Love Y’all-Qaeda. Copying!!

        • Elaygee

          I prefer to call them Christofascists or Talibangevicals

          • TampaZeke

            Christrionic, Christerical Talibangelicals?

      • PLAINTOM

        The heavy armored bear battle tanks can stand down.

        • KnownDonorDad

          And the gayroller divisions.

          • GayEGO

            Yay! Finally we get to run the steamroller! :>)

      • Nic Peterson

        Flo said it first and said it best!

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ftbm8EZZDqI

        Take that, y’all Qaeda.

      • GayEGO

        But, but, what will Bobby Jingleballs do?

    • ben-andy

      Hell, and by that I mean Kansas, still has holdouts.

      • Bruno

        Well, yeah, but that’s a different kind of holdout. All counties are issuing licenses in Kansas. It’s just Brownstain holding back statewide agencies from following the law. I really hope the plaintiffs in Marie vs. Moser are on the ball, but I fear they are not.

        • billbear1961

          Jesus, it’s so goddamned frustrating!

          Do they or do they not care about their rights in Kansas?!

          Is there a problem with their lawyers or the courts?!

          They should be suing the SHIT out of that FUCK Brownback!

          Where does he get off not recognizing fully LEGAL marriages?!

          That’s BULLSHIT!

          No other state has pulled this goddamned CRAP!!

        • Ninja0980

          Hard to tell, we’ll know soon enough with them.
          As for Brownback, my life long Republican grandparents HATED him, that alone should tell you what a POS he is.

          • Bruno

            I just wish more Kansans hated him last November…

          • Ninja0980

            Problem was many people were kept from voting by the asshat SOS Kris Kobach.
            Add that to the fact the Democrat running was a spineless jellyfish who inspired no one in a Red State and you have the mess in KS we have now.

          • clay

            Or had voted / been allowed to vote against him– it was one of the lowest state election turnouts.

          • Bruno

            It was like that all across the nation. Horrible election.

          • Paul

            Mike Pence isn’t too much better. The only thing he has going for him is that he surrendered in October when SCOTUS declined to grant cert to Indiana’s appeal. He said what amounted to: “Fine, gays, you win. I hate the outcome, but you win.”

      • Bruno

        BTW, under the radar today, the Kansas AG dropped their lawsuit in state court. http://eqks.org/ks-attorney-general-dismisses-state-lawsuit-against-marriage-equality/ We’re almost back in Kansas, Dorothy.

        • KCMC

          can’t stop repainting stain

    • Bruno
      • PLAINTOM

        Thank you for keeping us up to date.

      • Ninja0980

        Probably because the gov there isn’t a raging teabag.

        • Bruno

          Maybe Georgia really is trending purple.

          • GayEGO

            Shhhhh! The Georgia GOPs don’t want to lose any money or votes! :>)

    • Eric in Oakland

      This link explains more about the two county clerks in Kentucky who are refusing to issue licenses.

      http://www.wdrb.com/story/29444961/casey-co-clerk-says-conscience-wont-allow-him-to-issue-marriage-licenses

      It’s mind blowing to me that anyone thinks he should be able to keep his job without performing required duties, but that is exactly what both clerks are saying. One of them also says he’d rather go to jail than to issue a license to a gay couple, and that he refuses to resign.

      • Bruno

        I think the Rowan Co. clerk’s office will fall in line. There’s a college there and there’ve been a lot of protests and scrutiny. This Casey Co. idiot looks like he’s prepared to fall on the sword, though.

        • Bluto

          So be it. Sayonara motherfucker.

      • Octavio

        If the clerks don’t resign and, instead, are fired — they can collect unemployment checks.

        • Paul

          Not necessarily. The rule of thumb is that you can collect unemployment if you are unemployed through no fault of your own, such as a downsizing, plant closure, etc. Refusing to do your job wouldn’t qualify.

          http://unemploymenthandbook.com/state-unemployment-directory/56-kentucky/621-kentucky-unemployment-if-you-get-fired

        • Todd20036

          No. They cannot. Unemployment checks do not go to people fired for disciplinary actions, like fraud, or discrimination, or for refusing to do you own damned job

        • Eric in Oakland

          If they are worried about money, they would not put themselves in a position to get sued.

          • Octavio

            They don’t care. Jeebuz will save them.

      • IamM

        It’s like the people who want a religious exemption from their healthcare insurance premiums paying to cover birth control, and then don’t want to sign the form that would grant that exemption.

        • Eric in Oakland

          Good comparison! I guess they don’t want to be accommodated. They want to be martyred.

      • D. J.

        Perhaps he can be accommodated. A few nights in the pokey might clear his mind.

        • BudClark

          Buttbuttbutt … “strange” things happen in jail. Maybe he’s fantasizing about being some biker’s bitch.

          • clay

            so, some jiggery in the pokey, as predicted by Scalia!

      • GayEGO

        Well! We will just send him down the hopper!
        Flushhhhhhhhhhhhh!
        .| | | |
        VVVV

    • billbear1961

      Thanks for this, Bruno!

      • Bruno

        You’re welcome!

    • Bruno
  • Sam_Handwich
  • bkmn

    This should be one of the nails in the coffin of this chapter of hate.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Make them nine inch nails so there’s no chance of ever reopen again!

      • billbear1961

        You said it, bambino!

      • BudClark

        I LIVED TO SEE IT.

        GLORY BE TO PASTAFARIUS,

        I FCUKING LIVED TO SEE IT!!!!

        BUTTGHAZI!!!!

  • What?

    Question from someone who knows nothing about this: how similar is this to a mandate? Will the anti-gay counties face lawsuits?

  • Michael Smith

    We will never know now, but it would have been interesting to see how the panel in the 5th would have ruled. Most court observers predicted a ruling in our favor.

    • Rocketeer500

      I don’t think the 5th would rule. Bunch of wimps. They wanted SCOTUS to tell them what to do.

      • Bruno

        True, but I do have to say that both Judges Higginbotham and Graves seemed firmly on our side during the hearings at least.

        • billbear1961

          But never had the GUTS to issue their ruling.

        • Ninja0980

          I think it would have been 2-1 us but an en banc would have done away with that in a hurry.

          • Bruno

            Yeah, for sure. But if that’s the case, why did they let Smith write today’s “ruling,” throwing in the thing about “religious freedom” still being an open question? Maybe it was a deal with the en banc court.

    • Ed Burrow

      wait….ugh….so now, we’ll never know?

      • Balderdashing

        Maybe one of the judges will leak it in their memoir.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • lymis

      That’s the Texas opinion. Looks almost identical to the Louisiana one linked above, with a few extra details due to some other documents Texas has flying around.

      But they were ordered to have it all in place by July 17 at the latest and earlier if at all possible.

  • Bill

    But……But……But…..one thousand times But………
    as the saying goes “There’s more than one way to skin a cat……..”
    Blue Skies Above, what these people will come up with…….

  • ben-andy

    My favorite response so far is the counties that are simply opting out of issuing ANY marriage licenses. These counties are predominantly Re-Thuglican and we tend to live there not. Thus, they are inconveniencing themselves far more than they are us. This will cut into their income and probably cause staff layoffs. shorter hours, longer lines MORE inconvenience – FOR THEM. Not to mention the pesky detail of them “not being married int he eyes of the state” inconveniencing.

    I’m a big believer in “let the punishment fit the crime”. Not since the Mikado contemplated “something lingering, with boiling oil or melted lead” for encompassing the death of the heir apparent [1885] has any self-inflicted punishment seemed so apt. In fact, there has probably never been such a hoisting on their own petards [Hamlet ~1600] in all of history.

    • billbear1961
      • TreGibbs

        I don’t think those three women are Asian…

        • billbear1961

          No?

          πŸ™‚

        • clay

          or women.

          • TreGibbs

            lol

    • PLAINTOM

      Those same counties probably closed all public swimming pools a few decades ago.

      • TampaZeke

        It’s actually true. Some of the counties in Mississippi that are refusing to issue any marriage licenses are the very same counties who closed their public schools after integration.

    • Balderdashing

      Pedant alert: A petard is a small bomb for breaking through a wall or door, and “hoist” is the past tense of the verb “hoise”, thus it would be a “hoising with (or by) their own petards.”

    • Ninja0980

      Not a surprise.
      Here in NY, all the counties that gave same sex couples problems were the rural Republican ones.

  • PLAINTOM

    As Coroner …

    • ben-andy

      ….really most completely dead!

      • bambinoitaliano

        DNR!!

        • ben-andy

          I’m going with Did Not Recognize, lol

      • 2karmanot

        Thoroughly, utterly, and, most completely dead.

        • Craig Howell

          And most sincerely dead!

  • KQCA

    Hey, Joe, sorry we’re a little slow getting to this story. Your last post with the screaming drag Triceratops caught us off guard.

    • bambinoitaliano

      That’s Joe’s way of diverting attention while he is busy posting some serious news on the site πŸ™‚

      • PLAINTOM

        A mental pallet cleanser between courses.

        • KQCA

          (y) ROFL

        • RoFaWh

          “palate”

          If you know the distinction between “pallet” and “palate” but had a brainfart as you typed, all is forgiven.

          • PLAINTOM

            Thanks, more of a hiccup πŸ™‚

          • 2guysnamedjoe

            Well, maybe Plaintom was reading in bed, and then something happened, and then he had to think about cleaning his pallet. It could happen to anyone.

          • Steven Leahy

            LOL

  • Freeman

    If I was an Actor in this scenario, I would take this rare warning from the court very seriously.

  • oikos
    • YakHerder

      Took me a minute there.

    • TreGibbs

      LOL !! brilliant…

  • Marides48

    Starting the July “Sadz” parade early.

  • Stev84

    “good faith”. That’s expecting something from fundies which they just don’t have.

    • D. J.

      That is like putting Sally Kern and Phyllis Schafly in a beauty contest and asking someone to choose a winner.

  • bkmn

    So we don’t need to send our army of Dykes on Trikes to the south after all?

    • Bluto

      Dykes on bikes vs. rednecks in confederate flag waving pickups. That would be a hoot watching the good ol’ boys getting their asses kicked.

      • MDB

        Vernee-bob an’ billy-bob wud git an azz-woopin’

  • JT

    Relying on their “good faith” may not be enough, given that they’ve demonstrated bad faith so far.

  • LADY MABELINE

    I am so thrilled that Anita Bryant lived long enough to see marriage equality become a reality in the United States. So Dear Anita: THE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN SAVED.

    • Kissmagrits

      Anita who?

      • PLAINTOM

        She used to peddle oranges πŸ™‚

      • Craig Howell

        We couldn’t have done it without her and other equally nutty fundamentalists, who did so much to discredit themselves, far above our own poor powers to add or detract.

      • lymis

        She’s famous for attracting pies to the face.

        • Kissmagrits

          Oh my! How very vaudeville of her – – –

        • People4Humanity

          see historic reference below:

    • Steven Leahy

      It’s awesome watching these vile bigots like her from 30 and 40 years ago watch as the LGBT rights movement mushroomed from a few so-called “pathetic deviants” with no real voice or rights to a worldwide movement embraced by the majority of citizens in most western societies, corporations, politicians, and gay rights events with millions of attendees. It has to flabbergast her.

      • Ninja0980

        It’s also been great to see that so many of the bigots who authored their state bans and bragged about it being their greatest accomplishment are alive to watch their bigotry be struck down.
        THe meltdowns have been fun to watch.

        • GayEGO

          Smack ’em down! :>)

      • Bj Lincoln

        Now she can die the bitter old hag she always was.

      • Robincho

        She should worry less about us going to hell and more about the fact that she’s been living there all of her useless life…

        • People4Humanity

          Rural Mid-Oklahoma is pretty much hell.

    • teedofftaxpayer

      Hope she chokes on her OJ.

    • Mark

      I hope that evil wicked bitch has passed out and is laying face down in that Oklahoma red dirt shit. Hopefully, they won’t find her until the buzzards have had their way with her.

      (FWIW – I lived in south florida when she started her crusade shit…so my expressed ‘displeasure’ is real and personal and as denigrating as these pages allow)

      • D. J.

        I was very young (so young I didn’t know I would be gay, but knew that bigotry was wrong) and in Florida at the time, but remember it well.
        She thought she was going to bring everybody to Jeebus, kicking and screaming need be and that she was Morality Queen of America, infallible and unstoppable.
        Between Anita & Briggs in California their witch hunt culminated in the murder of Harvey Milk by Dan White.
        She will never wash Harvey Milk’s blood off her hands.
        That is why I have zero tolerance for people who incite others to violence.

      • JustSayin

        I was in the gables then. Across the driveway was a nice gay couple Jack and Gary. Across the street a lesbian and her poodle, she not the poodle worked as a states attorney. Behind us was Sandy a very fey TV new reporter who lived with his aunt uncle and grandmother.

        The whole freaking neighborhood was as gay or gay friendly as you could iimagine one being back then.

        When Bryant started her shit there was a whole block party type meeting to support the gay folks. It was sweet.

        • D. J.

          Our Official State Slut & AG Pam Bondi has been keeping a very low profile recently. She has however been photographed several times with Piyush Jindal-Smith.
          (I’m still chuckling from the Indian news commenter that said Piyush should change his last name to Smith.)

          • Rand503

            Guess all that stalling came to naught, eh Pam?

      • MDB

        I’m guessing, then, you may not prefer orange juice with your green-chile huevos rancheros ??
        * How was Santa Fe pride ?

    • Hurricane Anita. Huh, now she’s just a South Plains Depression.

    • Bj Lincoln

      She is still around?! Hey! FUCK YOU ANITA and thank you for making the country talk about the unfairness you started. Thanks for being the one who told me there was a name for what I was feeling and joining the fight all the way back in ’77.

    • Doug Taron

      A day without bigot tears is like a day without sunshine.

    • Lindoro Almaviva

      Oh my God yes! We should flood her with thank you notes and a picture of a pie inside.

      • MDB

        We could send scratch n’ sniff picture cards !? πŸ˜‰

        • Lindoro Almaviva

          for as long as they are pie

    • D. J.

      ^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^ Thunderous Applause!!!

      • LADY MABELINE

        Too kind

    • KQCA

      Yes, and I do wish Jerry Falwell had seen this day. I am certain I am not the only one who was tormented by Christian relatives…and now relishing that the tables having turned.

      • GayEGO

        OH! You mean God did not save him so he could be the one to be tormented by SCOTUS? Well gol dern it! :>)

    • Rand503

      And Phyliss Shafley. Maybe now she will let her gay son out of the closet.

    • D. J.

      We need to fund and place a billboard close to her house.

      • GayEGO

        She can go to GoFuckMe to get her just rewards! :>)

    • joeyj1220

      I only wish that fat fuck Jerry Falwell was still alive so he could have seen this

    • People4Humanity

      Searching the Disqus FAQ how to give you a bajillion ^up^votes^. Please stand by.

      • LADY MABELINE

        Cheers.

    • GayEGO

      I like Buddy Hacket’s comical view of Anita Bryant in a fishing boat looking at the water and saying “Fish F..ker”! :>)

  • MDB

    In somewhat related news The House of Deputies meeting in Salt Lake City has just now begun the process of voting on A054 and A036 changing the canons of The Episcopal Church to marry EVERYONE ! Hopefully I will have the results in the next 10-15 minutes, as soon as all the prayers and parliamentary procedures have been satisfied. For anyone who wants to watch the voting, here is the live link:

    http://livestream.com/accounts/12656718/events/3897940

    FINALLY !!!!! Equality and the full Rites of Marriage and Equality for everyone; WOW, just WOW- all in one week!! β˜…β™ͺβ™«β˜… Time for a Happy and glorious celebration 2015 β˜…β™«β™ͺβ˜…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHgkT9zsVu8

    • Sam_Handwich

      what’s the amendment on the floor?

      • Sam_Handwich

        well whatever it was, it failed dramatically

        • Octavio

          Are they still trying to decide whether if Jesus is divine or simply fabulous?

          • MDB

            The amendment to make a Holy Rockin’ Ab’s Jesus’ workout video failed πŸ˜‰

          • Robincho

            St. John was divine. Jesus was more stunning, I guess…

      • MDB

        Naysayers are trying to hijack the process by getting the bill “amended” giving the conservative bishops more ways to hate on us (deny us full rites of marriage) thus it sending back to the House of Bishops. This has taken three years to work out. The amendment has failed. NOW we vote on the main marriage motion. It’s about friggin’ time. There are still haters among the members of the Episcopal Church and they will continue to hate us. However, they are WAAAY outnumbered; this is going to pass, probably about 2-1. this is now just the final comment period before the vote.

        • Sam_Handwich

          thanks for the details!

        • Paul

          Are the chances of passage good?

          • MDB

            About 2-1 that is will indeed pass. A054 passed 108-104, but a lot closer than many had thought.

        • Paul

          VOTE IS CLOSED.

    • MDB

      HERE WE GO. The votes will be recorded as lay votes and clerical (clergy). The Bill A054 has passed 108-104 ! Now there are two other related bills on marriage. This upcoming vote now (on A036) is the resolution which will authorize the rewrite of the canons/rites of The Episcopal Church to make the Rites of Marriage “available to everyone.” First there will be the final debate, then the vote will happen.

    • Paul

      ANOTHER FUCKING AMENDMENT?!

      • MDB

        Some are just not happy with the three YEARS of hard work that committees and Bishops/ Clergy and lay members have worked on. They want to have their say. Our Church is governed by a VERY democratic/parliamentarian bicameral process. Yet individuals still try to hijack that process. it FAILED, but at least the naysayers had their moment. Everyone’s laughing because of the 666 votes against changing the language (what the haters wanted) of what will become the new canons.

        • Paul

          How many more people have to speak about this?! This is starting to feel like when all those people in Hawaii were coming to testify against SB1.

          • MDB

            debate is now closed !! – there is NOT unlimited debate, thankfully. The woman who is the presider (the President of the House of Deputies-and just reelected) is a no nonsense administrator. Voting happens now after prayers !!! HERE WE GO !!!!!

          • Paul

            At least they’re voting now.

          • MDB

            Res. A036 HAS PASSED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            β˜…β™«β™ͺβ™« Finally , after 39 years !!!!!! β™ͺβ™«β˜…
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf5QQkitNjw&list=RD7mM46lVVarg&index=4

          • Paul

            YEAH!!! Fourth Mainline denomination to do so!!

          • MDB

            It was painful to listen to so many Episcopal priests/lay deputies who would STILL deny us equality. There are still hearts to be won.

          • Paul

            I’m Presbyterian. We voted in favor last year, and believe me, there are quite the handful of pastors who are NOT open and affirming.

            SO HAPPY for you guys! πŸ˜€

            Now, let’s work on the United Methodists, Disciples of Christ, and American Baptists! Then, ALL Seven Sisters will have equality!

          • MDB

            Thanks, this decades old process has taken much too long and has already caused too much division. Now we, and and our Presbyterian, UCC, ELCA, UU, and affirming UM brethren can get on with the real mission of the church: to serve the least among us !!!

          • Paul

            Agreed.

            I’d love to see this type of vote in the SBC, but that’s likely 40 years away, lol.

          • TampaZeke

            And UCC-ers!

          • MDB

            ABSOLUTELY and our wonderful ELCA friends as well. We need a bigger tent !!!!!

          • TampaZeke

            Even the UCC has its raging homophobic holdouts 10 years after the National UCC endorsed legal and spiritual marriage equality. At every Synod since then the anti-gays, organized by the Institute for Religion and Democracy, always try to stir up an anti-gay storm by promoting anti-gay motions. They never make it to the floor for a vote but they still try every two years. They also allowed to have plenary sessions and workshops to peddle their homophobia but most of the people who show up to them are allies who challenge them at every turn.

          • Paul

            I have a strong feeling their vote for BDS this year will drive the remaining conservative congregations out.

          • MDB

            Into obscurity, hopefully. (They’re welcome to their insanity, just as long as the rest of us don’t have to put up with it.)

          • Paul

            I’d honestly like if BOTH the far right AND far left were driven away. The truth is ALWAYS in the middle.

          • Amanda B. Rekendwith

            But the far left is the one that holds the flashlight so that the middle can be found.

          • MDB

            I have two gay former HS classmates in Pa. who are now self-loathing gay non-progressive Presbyterians (but they’re not gay/right ??) The haters will always hate us; hopefully they will continue to lose their place at the table to rant and rave, except in their small-minded, bigoted universes.

          • KCMC
          • MDB

            β™«β™ͺ Ralph Vaughan Williams Antiphon: Let ALL the World Rejoice and Sing β™ͺβ™«
            (This is my most favorite piece of all time-The choir sang this at Washington National Cathedral two weeks ago with full organ and glorious full crescendo of trumpet stops* !!! Thanks !!! )
            * made everyone about jump out of their seats πŸ˜‰

          • Robincho

            I’ll say one thing for dear old Ralph —
            His antiphons make us feel salph!…

        • People4Humanity

          I know nothing of your church’s laws, but isn’t 666 votes somewhat significant, otherwise?

  • billbear1961

    Good faith? From our opponents?!

    Show us this “good faith” you make reference to!!

    WHERE do you see ANY?!

    • PLAINTOM

      It’s a matter of definitions much as the way they all seem to have gay “friends”.

  • Octavio

    I am saddened the ruling didn’t include a “Neener, neener, neener!”

    • Balderdashing

      The rulings were written by judge Smith, who threw a bone to the religious objectors by making it clear this ruling didn’t address First Amendment conflicts.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Judge Moore reacted with…

    • Kissmagrits

      … bulging eyeballs, clenched jaw, tooth grinding
      and pre-thrombosis sweating?

      And to think Alabamians re-elected this man even after his “Ten Suggestions” brouhaha several years ago.

    • Bj Lincoln

      They can haul him off to jail any second now.

      • D. J.

        Maybe Roy and Caleb can share the same naughty corner.

  • 2patricius2

    I’m surprised the Court didn’t say “this is the law of the land, obey it.”

  • Happy Dance

    You lose, we win! Get over it and carry on with other issues…don’t you have guns and buybulls to protect? I hear tell Obama is after both!

  • Mr. E

    FINALLY! I’m glad they issued the rulings! Game, set, and match bigots! Although IMO pretty cowardly to wait until AFTER SCOTUS ruled to basically just say “Follow Obergefell”. For the record they took 173 days from hearing oral arguments to making a ruling, the LONGEST of the circuits to do so! Here’s how long each Circuit took:
    7th Circuit – 9 days
    9th Circuit – 29 days
    4th Circuit – 76 days
    10th Circuit – 76 days for Kitchen
    10th Circuit – 92 days for Bishop
    6th Circuit – 92 days
    5th Circuit – 173 days!
    Still, a win is a win and as they say: it’s the law of the land and the Circuit! πŸ™‚

    • Bruno

      I wonder if we’ll get rulings from the 1st, 8th, and 11th CAs. The 1st at least should rule, if only to reverse the PR District Court judge.

      • Ninja0980

        I imagine it will be an order simply stating Obergefell is now the law of the land and all bans are gone.

    • Sam_Handwich

      that’s a dandy list! ty

      and oh man… 7th is my favorite. Posner for cripes sakes

      • JT

        Economics is key for Posner.

  • MDB

    THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH JUST FINISHED VOTING, WE ARE NOW OFFICIALLY EQUAL !!!!!!!! What a week, whew !!!!
    β˜…β™«β™ͺ β˜… Marriage and Equality for Everyone β˜… β™ͺβ™« β˜…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YstlGy1Ld0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mM46lVVarg

    • JT

      Congratulations!

      • MDB

        This process has been financially, emotionally and physically exhausting. But as one delegate to the House of Deputies said, he did it for his children, grandchildren and the generations to come, as have we all !!!! )This is definitely time to open the bar !!!!!!) O happy, happy day πŸ˜‰

        β™«β™ͺ God is Gone Up with a Triumphant Shout β™ͺβ™«
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrs5XR9Pd7k

        • BudClark

          What are the Dallas, Ft. Worth, Springfield IL, etc. dioceses going to do?

          I DO know that the election of the new Bishop of Dallas is being challenged, as I *believe* he has said he will take the diocese over to the heretical, schismatic Anglican Church of North America.

          My home diocese, Central Florida (See City: Orlando … gorgeous Cathedral of St. uke the Evangelist), seems to have calmed down somewhat.

          OK, what EXACTLY did they do? Full Sacrament of Holy Matrimony with the Nuptial Blessing (with the needed word changes, of course)?

          Prayer for the gift and heritage of children?

          Can bishops and priests still opt out?

          • MDB

            Full sacrament !!! A036 rewrites the canons,with what they called a trial-basis, which is what it is called for 3,6,9,12+ years UNTIL the wording of the Rites are finally approved/adopted & permanently written INTO the BCP. St. Luke’s is a beautiful Cathedral, indeed.

            Dallas, Tenn. and western NC deputies tried to hijack the process in the amendment phase in the HoD, but were shot-down quickly and rather emphatically.The opt out clause of Article 10 is still there but it also protects any priests (and the church) from lawsuits by people trying to legally/financially hijack an individual priest or the church at large. But opting out has always been part of the canon. (That still did not seem to appease the haters, though, both lay and clergy… They wanted blood !!!)

            * Edit: The level-headed Episcopalians retook Trinity Cathedral in Pittsburgh and are moving the Diocesan offices back into the Cathedral this week. The whining uber-Anglicans were sent packing. Reconciliation is underway there with some Priests who left with the uber-crazies, now asking to return to the fold.

            ** Also The big legal battle in South Carolina is NOT over. It goes to the SC State Supreme Court on Sept. 23. THe greedy bastards wanted absolutely everything and would not accept the settlement offer from PB Jefferts-Schori.

          • MDB

            Here’s my home away from home, actually I only live 6 blocks away !!
            The Cathedral Church of St. John Albuquerque

            https://theird.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/albuquerque-cathedral.jpg

  • uhhuhh

    What a bullshit, right-wing order. There is no “First Amendment” part of Obergefell. Nobody’s First Amendment rights were litigated in that case, and the Court render NO RULING on the First Amendment. It included like two sentences of DICTA on people being able to speak. Giving that equal billing with the rights of gay couples is outrageous!

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      Indeed, the text about religion and the first amendment in the Obergefell SCOTUS decision speaks about continuing debate, but the closing sentence on that paragraph (p. 27) is quite clear: The Constitution does not allow the state to bar same sex couples from marriage on the same terms as accorded to couples of the opposite sex.
      .

  • TampaZeke

    I’m sorry but that was still a very weak statement considering the level of grandstanding insubordination to the supreme authority of SCOTUS that is being displayed in certain parts of the country.

    • Ninja0980

      You have to understand how many on the 5th circuit are like Scalia and are pisted off about this ruling.
      Hence this order.
      They know they have to rule this way but they aren’t happy about it.

  • NZArtist

    S’funny, but I sorta kinda wonder how long it would have taken for the US to get marriage equality if it hadn’t been for the hateful bigots keeping our plight in the headlines.
    Did we make progress faster because of the nutjobs, or in spite of the nutjobs?
    Idle thoughts.

  • houstonray

    OFF TOPIC but wanted to post in case Joe hasn’t seen it. Seems the “relentlessly gay” story with the accompanying gofundme account just might have been a hoax. Just google ‘relentlessly gay” and the hoax stories are coming faster now.

    • gaymex

      Interesting. She says she is not going to take any of the money out of the account until she can prove the letter was real. Lots of questions.

  • Ninja0980

    Took them long enough didn’t it?

  • JCF
  • Ninja0980

    I will say that while it’s a shame the late and not so great Alan Nunnelee of MS didn’t live long enough to see the ban he drafted be struck down, I’m glad others like Steve Scalise, Tim Huelskamp, Vicky Hartzler and others are.
    It has been quite enjoyable watching their bigotry go down in flames.

    • Bruno

      On the other hand, I’m happy some of the unsung heroes are alive to see marriage equality nationwide, like former Massachusetts Rep. Paul Kujawski and Iowa’s Mike Gronstal.

  • BobSF_94117

    One wonders how often the 5th Circuit takes the time and trouble to point out in one of its rulings that the public may, thanks to the First Amendment, continue to bitch and moan and bitch and moan and bitch and moan all they want in opposition.

    I suspect never. Well, except this one time…

    • Ninja0980

      The 5th circuit is very conservative, which is the reason I imagine the 2 people who were likely to strike the ban down didn’t and just waited for SCOTUS.
      Because you can tell by the tone of the ruling they are pisted off.

  • Mike in Texas

    Paxton’s troubles are suddenly a lot more serious. (A first degree felony is punishable by up to life in prison.)

    “The criminal investigation against Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has taken a more serious turn, with special prosecutors now planning to present a first-degree felony securities fraud case against him to a Collin County grand jury, News 8 has learned.

    Special prosecutor Kent Schaffer told News 8 Wednesday afternoon that the Texas Rangers uncovered new evidence during the investigation that led to the securities fraud allegations against the sitting attorney general.

    “The Rangers went out to investigate one thing, and they came back with information on something else,” Schaffer told News 8. “It’s turned into something different than when they started.
    “http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/politics/2015/07/01/ken-paxton-felony-fraud-case/29593211/

    • Circ09

      Thank jeebus cheesus. That fucker needs to be indicted already. Repubs will elect any piece of trash that floats the R mission statements. Is this Grand Jury stacked with his cronies too?

      • Ninja0980

        Sad to say but in many places, the only thing that matters is the letter next to your name.

    • Octavio

      I think it would be just a little bit of fabulous to see Paxton end up serving time in a country club penitentiary. I’ve always felt bad that Spiro Agnew never had to serve any jail time. Among all of the Nixon era criminals, they had the goods on him but good. Fortunately, he died soon after leaving office.

    • People4Humanity

      “A first degree felony is punishable by up to life in prison!” Ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha !

  • JustSayin

    Douche nozzle in chief Piyush has tried to move the goal post yet again. Now he insists that marriage is not the law in Louisiana Louisiana until the circuit judge issues a ruling now that the 5th has issued its. They gave him until the 17th of July to do so.

    They also included the part of the scotus ruling about religion in their ruling and then blatantly refused to offer any guidance on how anyone claiming religious objections should proceeds. That is a clear sign that a Louisiana case will be on its way to scotus when one of our idiot govt employees chooses to discriminate for jeebus.

    • Ninja0980

      Let’s put it this way, the majority of people on the 5th circuit are even more conservative then Alito or Scalia are.
      You just know they were pisted having to issue any kind of order in our favor and did that to muddy the waters.

  • UrsusArctos

    A bit of speculation. I wonder if the other 2 judges who heard the marriage equality cases at the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals made Judge Smith write the order closing out the cases and closing off appeals. Smith was absolutely hostile during the oral arguments, while the other 2 justices seemed respectful and probing. The expectation was a 2-1 favorable ruling, but the SCOTUS case got set and they stalled.
    Poor judge Smith, if this is in any way right. The order went out written by him. ο»Ώ

    http://www.sunherald.com/2015/07/01/6303723/5th-circuit-tells-courts-to-issue.html

  • guest

    Thought it was over? ?

    “Bobby Jindal says Louisiana government won’t recognize same-sex marriages”

    “Our agencies will follow the Louisiana Constitution until the District Court orders us otherwise,” said Mike Reed, Jindal’s spokesman in the governor’s office.

    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/07/bobby_jindal_says_state_govern.html

  • Bruno

    “All parishes in Louisiana now say they are willing to issue licenses to same-sex couples,” even though Fuckdal will make couples wait until Feldman (another fuckhead) issues a new and finalized ruling. Who wants to bet against that being at 11:59 PM July 17th?

    • Ninja0980

      Who wants to bet Feldman will be a dick like Judge Jones in NV was and recuse himself so he won’t have to issue the order himself?

      • Bruno

        …on July 16th, no doubt

  • Rand503

    Actors? We ain’t no actors! We is gumming clerks!

  • disqus_oCvsL5SBJH

    “don’t take it lightly,” I’m pretty sure all this resistance is because these bigots don’t know how to lighten up. No worries about them ‘taking it lightly.’

  • KnownDonorDad

    Meanwhile, in Texas….

    First-degree felony charges to be sought against Texas AG Paxton

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20150701-first-degree-felony-charges-to-be-sought-against-texas-ag-ken-paxton.ece

  • Cyril

    Well, I guess this clears things up a bit!

  • GayEGO

    I can hear them screaming and digging their heels in as they are dragged, kicking and screaming, to Marriage Quality as the law of the land.
    I guess the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals fears the U.S. Supreme Court more than the state GOP looney-tunes..