AdWeek Slams Catholic Vote Clip: Galling And Meant To Marginalize LGBT People

In the comments of the post below this one, JMG reader Sam points us to this takedown of Catholic Vote by AdWeek:

About halfway through this two-and-a-half-minute film from conservative nonprofit the Catholic Vote, its treacly, overlystylized message becomes clear. These Catholics are nervous about revealing their stance on same-sex marriage because they’re (spoiler alert!) against it. That stance is nothing new. And everyone is entitled to their opinion, as long as it doesn’t lead to legislation that discriminates. No, what’s galling about the ad is its appropriation of LGBTQ themes to marginalize LGBTQ people. The ad, with a straight face, position Catholics as a persecuted group for not having their message of intolerance (here blatantly recast as its opposite) widely accepted these days. It even plays like a coming-out video for Catholics who are afraid to take the “brave” step of voicing their objection to equality. That’s a pretty audacious tactic—disingenuous and disrespectful, to say the least.

The comments there are very active.

  • geoffalnutt

    Shit like what Catholic Vote is doing will only hasten religion’s demise. It may be only incremental (at first), but Mankind may just finally have the revelation that religion is total bullshit. Someday.

    • Richard Rush

      The demise is already well underway in the United States:

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/05/12/christianity-faces-sharp-decline-as-americans-are-becoming-even-less-affiliated-with-religion/

      Christianity is on the decline in America, not just among younger generations or in certain regions of the country but across race, gender, education and geographic barriers. The percentage of adults who describe themselves as Christians dropped by nearly eight percentage points in just seven years to about 71 percent, according to a survey conducted by the Pew Research Center.

      • DaveDocSC

        It still scares me to be surrounded by 71% of the population that, still in 2015, believe in what can only be objectively analyzed as total BS… I would feel much safer if 10% or less were still fooled by religion.

  • MBear

    I bopped over to read some of the comments and…well: you cannot have a reasonable, logical discussion with someone who eschews reason and logic

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      Didn’t you know that Noah, Moses, and Jesus are all historical figures? The earth is only 6000 years old? What, were you born in a barn? (oops, sorry, Jeebus.)

      • Ginger Snap

        I grew up on a farm but wasn’t born in the barn.

        • SockMikey

          I hope I *never* grow up! 🙂

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          Me too, but I did play in it 🙂

          • BudClark

            LOVE me some barn sex … with other kids, NOT with the animals … just to clarify.

            Udder Butter makes EXCELLENT lube.

  • AtticusP

    i’m thinking about breeding lions in my backyard.

    • Mark

      Oh hell no. Do it in the front yard. Fear already rules their lives.

  • j.martindale

    The whole, “Be brave. Don’t be afraid to be called homophobic” line is a push by the bishops to try to turn their congregations around. The Catholic laity have been perhaps the largest religious group supporting same sex marriage. It surpassed mainline Protestant groups in this regard. And the bishops, largely appointed by JP II and Benedict, didn’t like that one bit. Fortunately, Catholic families are more devoted to family and friends than they are to clergymen. I know I can say for a fact that my family has been. I doubt this kind of encouragement to discriminate will have any effect. Anyway, because of SCOTUS, that boat has sailed already.

    • Gigi

      Dont’ be afraid. Wear you intolerance on you sleeve. But please be advised that we will no longer tolerate your intolerance. If we don’t agee with your position, we’ll let you know.

      • IamM

        Ah, double standards.
        Where slander is love. Discrimination is religious freedom. Denying civil rights is democracy. And objecting to any of that is persecution.

        • With xtians, every day is opposite day.

    • David Walker

      I loved pro wrestling when I was a kid. Nearly naked guys fighting for dominance — what’s not to like? And what’s happening with the Catholics, the Baptist thing from a couple of days ago, and probably more to come reminds me of when the good guy (the face) gets his second wind and starts to come after the bad guy (the heel). The heel goes through all sorts of contortions and pleadings, begging for mercy, then sucker punches the face It makes me wonder what their sucker punch will be..

      • B Snow

        Some of the best acting I’ve ever seen on TV. 🙂 (At least until the 2nd episode of “Banana” — that was amazing. But Pro Wrestling is right up there.)

        • Jwmvh

          I love that show!

    • Toasterlad

      Meh. If Catholic families were truly more devoted to their gay family and friends than they are to clergymen, they’d quit that vile hate group that tells them that the way their gay loved ones express their love is immoral and sinful.

      I don’t have much patience for Catholics who claim to love gay people, but also claim to be members of an organization that hates gay people.

      • j.martindale

        Judge not lest ye be judged. Not bad advice to me.

        • Toasterlad

          I’m perfectly happy to be judged by those standards. I value the people I love more than any cult. Those who don’t are lacking in moral integrity, and I have no problem telling them so.

          • j.martindale

            You have ANY friends and family you talk to that aren’t atheists and agnostics? Sorry, but I don’t have hurdles I make sympathetic people jump over.

          • Toasterlad

            I have religious friends and family. We don’t discuss religion. That doesn’t mean I don’t judge them. They just have to read my Facebook and Twitter posts to know how I feel…just like I have to read theirs to know how THEY feel.

            You think religious people don’t judge you? That’s ALL RELIGION IS: a way to feel superior to others. The difference is, I’m right and they’re wrong. Also, I don’t KILL people, or deny them rights.

  • Elaygee

    I got nails, you got crosses?

  • Elliott

    I remember in history class all the shit that the segregationists pulled and thinking how childish it was; that bullshit like back of the bus, separated fountains, acid in pool stuff was as absurd as it was outrageous. I also felt rather glad that we wouldn’t ever see those days again, that we had evolved beyond that shit. Well, same old shit, new and improved packaging.

    • Rambie

      True, and hopefully the same will become of the homophobic bigots as did the segregationists. Sure they are still out there, but fewer and fewer and shunned to irrelevancy.

  • furyatx

    With 1.2 Billion of them how can they say they are a minority?

  • Gigi

    And of course most of them say that they have gay friends – whom they love very much…so much so that they don’t want to see them BURN IN HELL!

  • Mark

    While I watched, I could here Kay Bailey Hutchinson – in the swarmy southern drawl – say: “well, isn’t that precious.”

  • Tawdry D’Tails

    AdWeek sums up my reaction to the video. I mean, I saw the lame plot twist coming a mile away, but it was still incredibly… rude. Could you imagine a version of this at the end of WWII with a bunch of Nazis sitting down and being worried about being shunned for being anti-semitic?
    Having grown up catholic, I know first-hand, they do love their martyrs!

    • popebuck1

      The Nuremberg trials: Such persecution! Such intolerance! Why do the Jews say they’re against genocide when they have been putting Nazis to death BY THE DOZENS? If only GoFundMe had been around, we could have started a collection for the poor persecuted Nazis.

      EDITED TO ADD: Okay, so only 11 Nazis were executed after the Nuremberg trials. http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/nuremberg.htm

      Still – GENOCIDE!

  • Bj Lincoln

    I loved the parody!

  • Pete N SFO

    There’s a big difference between holding an opinion (for whatever reason) and working for legislation to codify a lesser status under law. That’s what these ‘religious’ people did. Figure out how you’ll make amends & then I consider backing off labeling you a bigot.

    • Amanda B. Rekendwith

      “And a jumped-up queer like me should know that the word “homophobia” is no longer available to gay people. Which is a spectacular and neat Orwellian trick because now it turns out that gay people are not the victims of homophobia – homophobes are.”
      -Panti Bliss

  • TreGibbs

    It’s awesome when bigots have their asses handed to them.

  • cleos_mom

    “It is NOT A LOSS for the church to NO LONGER be able to deny basic rights and freedoms to other people. It is NOT A LOSS to no longer be able to force your own beliefs upon others. It most definitely is NOT A LOSS for the church for an entire group of people to have gained the same rights everyone else has. In contrast, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT LOSS TO BE DENIED RIGHTS and freedoms because of who you are.”

    From commenter Boichee. Very lengthy; one of the best challenges I’ve seen yet to the “I’m so oppressed because I’m not allowed to oppress you” theme song.

  • Steverino

    I don’t expect Tommy Peters to walk back this video.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    I really really LOVE ” Our side ” 🙂

  • BobSF_94117

    Doesn’t anyone have any spare minions to ferret out whether the individuals in the Catholic Vote video are actors or regular people?

    • B Snow

      See popebuck1’s comment above, in reply to prestonbuell. About 12 comments up.

      • BobSF_94117

        Thx! I figured someone’s minions were probably more energetic than mine.

  • Toasterlad

    Ha! The moderator wouldn’t allow my response to this letter…I wonder why?
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    Mary Magdelene Sporkfighter • 2 hours ago

    No, genius. Don’t put words in my mouth. it’s actually the other way around. The gays are trying to oppress the Catholics and other christian sects because we believe it is a sin against God to marry someone of
    the same sex. If you want to get married, Mozeltov. You can go to the Episcopal church where they will welcome you with open arms, you will have all the smells and bells and life will be wonderful. YOU are the oppressors because now you will try to force the Catholic, Orthodox and Evangelical churches to marry you when you know our doctrines forbid that. We aren’t out chasing you down the street and throwing you off buildings. We do nothing to impede your lifestyle. We only ask that you respect our religious beliefs, and that you cannot do. That was my point.

    Reply

    Toasterlad Mary Magdelene • a few seconds
    ago Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by Adweek.

    I have no respect for your religious beliefs, or you, because both are inordinately silly. I do, however, have ENORMOUS respect for your right not to involve gay people in your medieval Harry Potter fantasy camp. By all means, PLEASE continue to bar gay people from participating in your voodoo ceremonies, and continue your long, painfully slow
    march to obscurity. As you pointed out, there are plenty of churches who will happily marry gay people, and, for those of us who don’t need an invisible sky daddy to bless our love, we can march right into any city hall and get married there. Marriage never has, and never will, need any involvement from the Catholic church. But if you find even ONE self-loathing gay person who wants ANYTHING to do with your little hate cult, please point them out, and I will be happy to assist you in barring the gates of your pedophilia nests to make sure they can’t enter. While you’re searching for gay people trying to make you marry them or kiss them or do whatever else your fever dreams imagine we want you to do for us, the rest of us will be off celebrating our long, long, LONG
    overdue victory over you and the rest of your hateful, spiteful, superstitious ilk.

    • B Snow

      I know there’s no standardized Roman-alphabet spelling for Yiddish or Hebrew. But I’m still going to say she misspelled “Mazel Tov”.

  • John T

    I’m a bit embarrassed to say I wasted way too much time over there arguing with people who are Wrong On The Internet.

    https://xkcd.com/386/

    • Best geek comic EVER!

  • Terry

    I saw it and said: Oh poor bigots…unable to bar gay couples by law from a marriage license…so sad

    Not only that but they got a black guy too…gotta cover their bases…