BREAKING: SPLC Wins Fraud Suit Against New Jersey “Ex-Gay” Torture Group

NJ.com reports:

A New Jersey jury on Thursday found a non-profit group that provides gay-to-straight conversion therapy guilty of consumer fraud for promising clients they could overcome their sexual urges by undressing in front of other men, pummeling an effigy of their mothers, and re–enacting traumatic childhood experiences.

In the first case in the nation to put the controversial practice on trial, the jury concluded that Arthur Goldberg and Elaine Berk, the founders of Jews Offering New Alternatives for Healing in Jersey City and life coach Alan Downing to whom JONAH referred patients, “engaged in unconscionable commercial practices” and misrepresented their services.

The verdict requires JONAH and Downing to refund thousands of dollars paid by former clients Michael Ferguson, Benjamin Unger, Sheldon Bruck, Chaim Levin, and parents Jo Bruck and Bella Levin for the individual and group counseling sessions and the “journey into manhood” weekends in the woods. Downing charged $60 to $100 for group and individual sessions but shared 20 percent with JONAH to help defray its administrative costs.

The SPLC says they will now seek an injunction to force JONAH from operating. They’ll also seek legal fees. What a terrible, terrible month for Maggie Gallagher!

  • raise a glass, to the lives that will be saved.

    • Sporkfighter

      … and to the lives that have been lost.

      • well done. YES.

        • Strepsi

          Yes and Yes! Cheers. The whole concept is beyond creepy, and the fact it produces the abominations who Joe regularly covers is pathetic.

          The line that I find creepiest is somehow “journey into manhood” weekends in the woods”…
          https://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/84085-seinfeld-shudder-cringe-gif-im-zgoa.gif

          • canoebum

            I go on “journey into manhood” trips into the North Country Woods, but I always try to take a gay friend along. It’s so much more fun. The only thing that gets converted is food from the wanigan into a decent supper, with a little Cognac later around the fire.

    • Gene

      and that….that is the most salient, beautiful, relevant thing said on this subject, and our victory.
      the Schadenfreude is DELICIOUS…and best served cold…but, while mags is rights, its fun to win, its these lives that matter.
      Onward and Upward.
      I dont think I will sleep until sometime Monday afternoon…

    • HAAAAAAA

      OK…

    • JCF
  • Bill T.

    Determining torture quackery as consumer fraud should have been a no-brainer, but it’s nice to see the courts agree.

    • Bill

      and the idiots having to return the monies, and fees.
      They’ll end up filing bankruptcy to avoid the costs.
      It’s Armageddon time, as the world a we know it ends.
      Are those Fema camps and tunnels between the
      Wal-Mart’s prepared, for the crowds.

      • Bill T.

        Little did they know that Jade Helm ushered in the start of the Gaypocalypse. Prepare to fire the disco balls!

    • RoFaWh

      Now if this decision can just be extended to the hordes of fake “pastors” and their religious b.s.

      • Bill T.

        It’s much more difficult when dealing with religion. Otherwise, every church would be shuttered.

  • barracks9

    Time for an old favorite…

    • David L. Caster

      They will indeed be epic!

    • Treg Brown

      She’s right about one thing…

      • Gene

        ah…bless you for finding that πŸ™‚

      • oikos

        She’ll have to add an h after the w and drop an n.

        • Treg Brown

          Perfect oikos.
          Did your avi change again. I swore I saw Jeebus pubes this morning. Or did I just dream it.

          • oikos

            No I’ve changed it a bunch of times today. Trying to find one that will rub salt in the wounds of the haters if we win at the SCOTUS. One site blocked the pubic jeebus so seeing what will get through the filters.

          • Treg Brown

            I’m glad you explained. I was afraid I was seeing nudity where there wasn’t any.
            Wouldn’t be the first time πŸ™‚

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            If you click on the current avatar, you can still see Our Lord and Pubey. Yumm. Give us this day our daily bread.

          • Joe in PA

            hmmm, do tell. LOL

          • Treg Brown

            Lectures can be dry, boring and long sometimes so… πŸ˜€

          • Doug105

            ..

          • David L. Caster

            Jesus Silverlake. Very good choice for a source.

      • People4Humanity

        Bonus points for this landing on Thursday!

      • DJ

        She’s having a three-way with Ben and Jerry right now. And she’ll do it again if SCOTUS rules our way.

      • StraightGrandmother

        Thank you for this Treg

        • Treg Brown

          Thank you SGM. I see all that you’ve done for our community, and I appreciate you so much.

    • John P.

      Photoshop Maggie riding the bomb (as in Dr. Strangelove!

      • Todd20036

        It couldn’t fit between her legs.

        • Soren456

          Bring in the Jaws of Life.

        • Paula

          I wonder where Mama Duggar could hide that nasty old H-bomb?

      • canoebum

        Major “Kahn”. How fitting!

    • jomicur

      Is that a schematic of Maggie G.?

  • ikahana

    Poor Maggie

    • bkmn

      Poor people whose lives have been ruined because of lying sacks of shit like Maggie.

    • Ian

      Maggisaurus-drecks

    • elvigy

      Looks like she lost some weight in that pic. Good for her.

    • Gene

      ohhh…shes lost weigh…but, where is that sweater..one of her 3 pieces of clothing.

    • DaddyRay

      It’s time Maggie

  • ben

    It’s only going to get worse for her too!

    • Sporkfighter

      These grifters have to know a demographic tsunami is heading their way . . . trying to grab the last handful of silver before it hits.

      • bkmn

        They will eventually turn on each other as the demonize the gay teat dries up and their incomes start to dwindle.

        • jomicur

          Plus the inevitable spin: “We never said we could covert gays to straight. We only wanted to share the love of Baby Jesus blah blah blah…”

  • bkmn

    That’s a nice warm up to what should be a good Friday.

    • Gustav2

      Good Friday? Now you people are stealing holy days!!!!111!!!

      • bkmn

        The Xtains have never stolen anything from other religions – like the Xmas tree, Easter, marriage…you know nothing.

        • lymis

          Ritual cannibalism…

        • Rocketeer500

          Also including angels, alters, and offering plates.

    • lymis

      I think it’s rude and inappropriate to call it Good Friday. And very heteronormative.

      Assuming the ruling is tomorrow, let’s henceforth call it Fabulous Friday.

  • Sporkfighter

    There are lots of grifts in the world, but tormenting troubled kids for a buck is one of the worst. Somehow, we need to move this behavior from civil to criminal court. Isn’t there a U.N. mandate against torture?

  • Steverino

    Maggie’s next course: nationwide marriage equality.

    • RLK2

      Her next course: crow for dinner. But most likely a full cow.

      • jomicur

        She’s too busy eating everything else that moves.

  • What?

    “What a terrible, terrible month for Maggie Gallagher!”

    If stopping the psychological torture of children makes her feel terrible, I’m all for it.

  • ben-andy

    Perhaps JONAH could provide some therapy for Mags to cure her problems?

    • bkmn

      But she learned how to lie from the best priests.

      • ben-andy

        and yet still she loses…..pity.

    • Soren456

      I have a spare tennis racquet for her, but no sofa pillows.

      • lymis

        She has her own. Built in.

        • Soren456

          Tennis racquet? Really?

          (Joke)

  • joe ho

    maggie’s just not praying hard enough.

    • bkmn

      God must be punishing her for that sex out of wedlock.

      • Treg Brown

        Wait. She’s not a deeply closeted lesbian???

      • RLK2

        And gluttony.

    • ScottJL

      she’s praying… for gluttony to be removed from the sin list.

    • RLK2

      Strange how the right wing Christian anti-gay haters keep praying, but God seems not to be listening and instead keeps giving the wins to the LGBT community. You would think they would get the message by now?

      • barracks9

        God IS listening. Her answer to all of the supplications is a resounding “NO!”.

      • StraightSupporter

        I’m increasingly worried about what happens when they stop praying and try to take action.

        • Cuberly

          They have a built-in fail safe mechanism that prevents them from doing anything, the tea-baggers.

          All the BS subset sacrosanct agendas prevent the GOPvangelicals from accomplishing, anything.

      • oikos
    • jomicur

      It’s hard to pray with a mouth full of eclairs.

  • crewman

    Now I’m waiting for, “This is an attack on religion.”

    • oikos

      It can’t be far behind along with various money begs from all of the usual suspects.

    • jomicur

      To the extent religion is fraud, yes.

  • joe ho

    how long until brian brown’s outraged sadz statement?

  • KT

    This is amazing news – hooray for my home state! We have some of the strongest LGBT laws on the book! This is another hole in the damn of conversion therapy!

  • Herald

    This day is just getting better and better!

  • oikos
    • Blake Jordan

      Oh look, it is the symbol of “christianist oppression”… Ha Ha Ha!

      😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

  • delk

    Damn, the ground is going to be over saturated in bigot tears before the marriage equality rulings.

    Never thought I’d be caught dead in a pair, but maybe we need to put on Capri pants, the flood is coming.

    • David L. Caster

      Thrasher shorts are good, especially if they are made out of black leather. But if it’s raining, black denim is certainly fashionable, at least in SoCal.

      • Leo Tallant

        David, I live in northern California about 45 minutes north of the Golden Gate. Please explain this word “raining” to me as I am unfamiliar with it. πŸ˜‰

        • lymis

          Water sports. From God.

        • David L. Caster

          Legend has it that water, in the form of drops of various sizes, would occasionally fall from the sky. These drops were called “rain”. Sometimes, this phenomenon would be accompanied by displays of flashing light and huge sparks the locals called “lightning” which would travel between the ground and dark masses in the sky called “clouds”. Apparently, it was believed that the clouds were the source of the rain. Living memory of rain seems to be rare in California.

          • Pinkamena Diane Pie

            Come out to Indiana, we can tell you all about it while we bail our streets out.

          • Justin

            This can be seen in Seattle in the winter if you have a light source sufficient enough to pierce the gloom to witness it. Otherwise, you can just hear it… constantly.

  • Sam_Handwich

    Verdict for Plaintiffs on almost all counts. All votes were unanimous (7-0)
    The only no votes were (Referring to the July Verdict Form linked below):
    Question 9 & 10 (Plaintiffs Michael Ferguson) as to defendants Arthur Goldberg and JONAH, Inc.; Yes as to Alan Downing.
    Question 13 & 14 (Plaintiff Bella Levin) No as to Alan Downing; Yes as to defendants Arthur Goldberg and JONAH, Inc.
    ALL OTHER QUESTIONS were answered YES
    Ascertainable Losses:
    Benji Unger (Question 4) $17,950
    Chaim Levin (Question 8) $650
    Michael Ferguson (Question 12): $1,050
    Bella Levin (Question 16): $4,000
    Jo Bruck (Question 20): $500

    Jury verdict form

    http://files.eqcf.org/private-ferguson-v-jonah-trial-blank-jury-verdict-form/

    • Soren456

      This is going to affect their cemetery fund.

  • tom dumptee

    poor maggie,she LOST! and now, she needs some comfort food…..perhaps the ENTIRE days output of the ‘Hostess” bakery in Hoboken (for starters)

    • ScottJL

      I’d say she should eat crow, but she’d devour the murder!

  • You know, Maggie, you were correct. Winning IS fun!

  • ScottJL

    I don’t understand, why couldn’t their god change the minds of these jurors? What an impotent deity!

  • RLK2

    A great win for equality! This will put other conversion therapy peddlers on notice. Let’s keep the wins coming. One big one hopefully tomorrow!

  • The Professor

    Forward to 1:55, where Maggie once again inserts hoof into mouth by saying “how fun it will be to win” this case. ROTFLMAO. Stay the fuck out of our lives, will ya Maggie? http://www.cbn.com/tv/4269315349001

    • PLAINTOM

      Play with flamers and you will get burnt. It really has not sunk into their world view yet that we won’t put up with shit anymore .

      • Joseph Miceli

        WE certainly won’t….but neither will our mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, straight friends, employers and … in some cases… clergy! It is time to take out last century’s trash and we and our allies are sweeping the haters to the curb!

        • marshlc

          yes-they haven’t realized that they are no longer just fighting a handful of LGBT, but every decent person

    • BlueberriesForMe

      “This was an ‘activist’ jury which clearly received coaching from an unqualified judge…”
      Sure, Maggot. Now go and jerk off your BFF’s at Princeton.

      • David Walker

        Lord god. This was a jury. Just ONE person could have created the Maggie-sought hung jury. Maggie’s “team” did what these Jeebus legal eagles do so well: They lost, and they lost because people don’t swallow their shit.

        On the other hand, there’s some organization coming to neighboring Lancaster County this weekend. They call themselves “Restored Hope Ministries.” I haven’t checked the Lancaster papers’ website, but the Harrisburg site has had a rather encouraging show of disgust in the comments. This is MY kind of “restored hope”…people actually coming around.

    • crewman

      I would LOVE to see her in an interview today with that clip played back to her to get her response.

      Did you notice how she spun this suit against JONAH (a Jewish organization) as an attack on Christianity. What isn’t an attack on Christianity.

      • The Professor

        She’s spinning out into her own fantasy world. Denial, not just a river in Eqypt anymore.

    • RoFaWh

      This shows Gallagher’s sociopathic side.

      The word “fun” is entirely inappropriate in connection with this struggle. It is shameful that that cow doesn’t realize this. Fun my fucking eye!!

    • Bj Lincoln

      Jesus! What a pig! I am so glad they lost!
      People who suffer from ‘unwanted same sex attraction’ only feel that way because of you shame them into not wanting to be gay. You can NOT change your orientation! You can pretend to be str8 but you are only fooling yourself. Now we need to get this torture banned everywhere by EVERYONE. We have to go after the church “camps” that torture our kids too. Most laws only deal with professional therapists, not the church quacks.

    • Joe in PA

      thanks for posting this. I suffered through the entire 7 minutes…good grief that woman can’t open her mouth without lying, smearing, condescending. I loved how she DIDN’T answer the question about not having any mental health professionals on her side. And the announcer even commented TWICE about that. Sucks to be you magpie. Oh, I checked the ConscienceDefense website that she said to watch for updates…crickets. But in the June 5th ‘update’ it said:

      The most anticipated and critical religious liberty trial has begun. What is being dubbed as the Trial of the Century, the JONAH trial is underway and is expected to last three to four weeks. It has gained the national attention it deserves, as we stop SPLC from bullying yet another organization.

    • BradCav

      I wonder if she thinks it would be fun to win against the SPLC on one of its other landmark cases prosecuting white supremacists and anti-semites. Or, is she just offended because the organization so successfully points out that bigotry is bigotry is bigotry.

      • JJS_prime

        The most fun would be a trial that throws kiddy-diddling priests in Jail. Then just watch Maggie’s head explode.

      • The Professor

        The latter, natch.

    • Douglas

      For dear Maggie Gallagher

    • JJS_prime

      It WAS fun to watch the good guys win.

  • Gene

    I know its Ramadan…but is CHRISTMAS, HANNUKAH AND MY BIRTHDAY TOO?!!! πŸ™‚
    holy…shit…this is like, the best week…just…ever!
    .
    Maggie was bragging about how nice it would be to win this.
    awww…
    maybe she will comfort herself with…..I dont know…food?

    • PLAINTOM

      And the week is not over.

      • Craig Howell

        One Day More.

  • SFBruce

    It’s a great day when reason prevails. And that’s at least twice in one single day!!!!

  • joe ho
    • billbear1961

  • Maggie 4NoH8

    How long did the jury deliberate? LMAO!

    • Sam_Handwich

      i think they started yesterday

      • Mike in Texas

        I just read something about that. The were given the option of hearing instruction and beginning deliberation this morning and chose to do so rather than at the end of the day yesterday.

    • 2amor

      From what I read it was 3 hours.

    • lymis

      Hmmm.

      “Do we want to go on record as being in favor of torturing children? Show of hands? Good. Who’s ordering lunch?”

    • Mike is correct that the original plan was to start deliberations Wed, but that changed. LiMandri’s closing argument took longer than he had estimated (a pattern he established throughout the trial) and so it was late Wednesday before closing arguments were complete. As such, the judge gave the jury the option of receiving instructions – which would take about an hour – on Wed, leaving very little time to deliberate Wed or to receive instructions first thing Thursday morning and start deliberations then. They opted for the latter.

      As to the length of time of deliberations, according to the time stamp on my audio recording (which is obviously not an official time stamp), the case went to the jury at approximately 10:20 am. Then looking at my tweet announcing that a verdict had been reached and attorneys being summoned (again, twitter not an official time stamp πŸ˜‰ ) verdict came in just before 1:40pm … probably closer to 1:35 recalling the time it took me to let my colleagues in the hall know there was a verdict, pull out my computer and tweet.

      As a curious aside, I may have been one of the first people to know there was a verdict – even before the attorneys. I had just finished eating lunch sitting in the hall outside the courtroom, along with a couple of freelance reporters covering the trial with whom I’d become friends, and had walked back into the courtroom to retrieve my computer so I could get some work done while waiting. I said hello to the court’s marshall on my way to my spot in the reserved media area, and just as I was walking past the rear door that leads to the hall off the jury deliberation room, there was a knock on that door. I’m not sure the marshall necessarily registered the knock right away, possibly thinking I’d made the noise coming in, but I turned around and looked at the door, he looked at it, and then he went in.

      Knowing this meant the jury had something to communicate (could be a question, could be a verdict), I popped my head out to tell my colleagues who returned to the courtroom, and then we all sat and waited to hear what the marshall had to say. Soon after, the marshall came back through the door and said to anyone in the courtroom (not many of us there at this time), “for anyone who’s interested, they’ve reached a verdict.” I saw the court clerk then get on the phone to notify attorneys, who were all waiting off site.

  • Blake Jordan

    Great news!!!
    Could this mean something for the other 49 states?
    At least some time in the near future?

    • Sporkfighter

      48.

      Supreme Court Upholds California’s ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy Ban:

      http://www.advocate.com/california/2014/06/30/supreme-court-upholds-californias-ex-gay-therapy-ban

      • Blake Jordan

        That is just a ban on “conversion therapy” for minors…

        This New Jersey ruling is against “conversion therapy” for anyone.

        • Sporkfighter

          Adults should be able to take care of themselves. It’s the kids who can’t opt out because they are minors I fear for. Of course, removing this type of “treatment” from the teat of medical insurance would be a good thing as well.

          • Reality.Bites

            I suspect the overwhelming majority of “adult” clients are 18-20 and fully dependent on their parents for education.

            Finding an actual fully independent adult who chose them is almost as hard as finding a success story.

          • Sporkfighter

            Has there been a success story? One that lasted for, say, five years?

  • CPT_Doom

    What a fantastic day. The ACA subsidies are held up – good news for America and for my company, as we are helping implement the law; the agency whose contract I manage announced their plan to renew for 5 years – good news for me; and now the jury takes all of 3 hours to figure out what took too many of us years to learn – “changing” sexual orientation is not possible. Now fingers crossed for as good a day tomorrow.

    • billbear1961

      “Upheld,” Captain, not “held up.”

      πŸ˜€

      • Shy Guy

        Careful, Billbear, you might end up upending this thread. πŸ˜‰

  • Blake Jordan

    I wonder if the newly out “Mrs Wiggles” will expel some SADZ over this?

    • Octavio

      Mrs. Wiggles is busy stuffing her face with bags of Oreos. Purge at 11:00.

  • BearEyes

    Good news – let’s hope this establishes a precedent for use in other states.

    oh and – suck it, maggs.

  • Todd20036

    The courts are wrong.

    I’ve cured gay people for years, usually, one on Thanksgiving, and one on Christmas. The key is to let them marinate over night in various homemade marinate sauces, and you have to routinely baste them as they’re cooking.

    A cacophonate at those who think gays cannot be cured.

    • lymis

      Honey, that’s braising. Curing involves dry heat, not wet.

      Think sauna versus steam room.

    • GreatLakeSailor

      There’s a Salt Petre joke just out of my grasp….

  • TampaZeke

    What an AMAZING day!

    Monday better not dare let us down!

    • The Professor

      I hope it’s tomorrow!

      • TampaZeke

        I’m pretty sure it will be Monday. We’ve waited this long, we can wait another couple days. πŸ™‚

        • The Professor

          I’m greedy. I want the ruling in time for NYC Pride on Sunday.

  • The Professor

    Let’s hope tomorrow the month is a clean shitty sweep for Maggs.

  • GayOldLady

    Maggie’s probably imploding as I type. I just wish I could see it with my own two eyes.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      Careful! The gamma radiation could be blinding!

      • GreatLakeSailor

        I was gonna go with:

        An’ some were worried about the LHC creating a singularity!

  • BaddogLtd
    • james_from_cambridge

      Poor Maggie indeed! She’s under so much stress! She’ll have to go home and do the one thing that relaxes her…

      http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2815035/divine-shit-o.gif

      • Todd20036

        I so did not need to see that.

        • james_from_cambridge

          But deep down, you kind of did, right?

      • People4Humanity

        NAILED! it

  • billbear1961
  • Tana333

    Shout out to to lead plaintiff Michael Ferguson and his husband Seth Anderson, first gay couple legally wed in Utah, both who grew up Mormon, for their participation!

  • Macbill

    Grab your umbrellas for a torrent of tears from Christian Right. The horrors. They cannot torture questioning teens anymore.

  • RobynWatts

    Maggie Gallagher (2012): “Winning is fun!”
    The LGBT Community (2015): “It sure is, Maggie, it sure is!”

    • The Professor

      She said it at 1:55 here about the JONAH case. Seems like everything she touches turns to coal. http://www.cbn.com/tv/4269315349001

    • GC

      Oh, and Maggie, we’re not trying to “remake public morality”, only putting the actual morality back in it!

  • bambinoitaliano
  • TomF.

    You lose, Ms. Gallagher. We win, Ms. Gallagher. Good day, Ms. Gallagher.

    • TrollopeReader

      She might have to start using her husband’s name just to be incognito …. oh wait a minute, even if she did that ….

  • The Professor

    You lose…

  • Sam_Handwich

    all this great news today, and i just won 500 bucks on a 2 dollar scratch-off!!

    w00t w00t

    • billbear1961

      And will now purchase sweets for everyone?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkv_mV1wQ8c

      • Octavio

        The most fattening waltz ever! πŸ™‚

        • billbear1961

          We will count calories LATER.

          πŸ˜‰

          • Mike in Texas

            Calories? Please explain.

          • billbear1961

            That’s the right attitude, until the–knock wood–celebrations are over sometime next month.

            Actually, if all goes well, I think the celebrations will last a lot longer than a MONTH!

            πŸ™‚

          • Octavio

            I’ll have to box waltz for another six hours to work off the Faschingkrapfen, Sachertorte and Guglehupf.

      • Sam_Handwich
        • billbear1961

          WunderschΓΆn!

          I love petits fours!

          xx

          • Gene

            ohhhh….nice
            I like to make them eat them…soak them in rum and eat them…
            πŸ™‚

  • Gigi

    Hopefully this will lead to all such operations to be shut down nationwide.

    • bkmn

      Don’t color me surprised if Mississippi or Alabama were to be the last to outlaw this fraud.

      • GreatLakeSailor

        or pass a freedom-to-scam law bent up to sound positive in some way.

    • lymis

      First it will shift to “religious counseling” and drop the pretense that there is a sound psychological basis. It will be fought under “Freedom of Religion.” And it will take a while for it to be seen as similar to Jehovah’s Witnesses not allowing lifesaving medical care for their kids.

      • GreatLakeSailor

        Likely, but that will cut in deeply to the graft, no?

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          The religious tax exemptions will more than offset that.

    • Menergy

      What ever will Ladybird and Michele with 1 L Bachmann do now?

      • GreatLakeSailor

        Join the professional corndog eating circuit? The height of state fair season is fast approaching.

      • Soren456

        Interior decorating.

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        Ladybird could find steady employment as a caftan model. One-L Bachmann is pretty much unemployable.

  • Todd E.

    And a terrible, terrible month for MagPie is a fantastic, fantastic week for almost everyone else! Including Hostess Twinkie stock — it’s going waaaaay up to accommodate her sadz!

    • Octavio

      Nabisco’s Oreo division is having a hard time keeping up.

      • lymis

        They’re too busy celebrating Pride Month.

    • Mike in Texas

      I’m hearing rumors of a Dunkin Donuts shortage.

  • Sam_Handwich

    Here’s the twitter acct of Maggie’s group that was defending this

    https://twitter.com/FCDFtweets

    “There are at least a half a dozen clients who are going to testify with compelling stories of how much the counseling they received through organizations, like JONAH, helped them,” Maggie Gallagher, Chairwoman of the Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund which represents JONAH, said.
    http://m.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2015/June/No-More-Right-to-Same-Sex-Attraction-Therapy/

    • bkmn

      Amazing they seem to have gone silent today for some reason. It is after lunch so Mags should have been free to update it.

      • Mike in Texas

        She hasn’t finished her lunch.

        • Sam_Handwich

          the one she started in 1975

          • The Professor

            Mmmm. Her lunches can’t last 40 seconds much less 40 years… πŸ˜‰

      • Stev84

        They are always silent when they lose

    • Mike in Texas

      Hmmm … I guess I’ll have to tweet a bunch of “Winning is Fun” things to the group.

      • TrollopeReader

        this was a “We’re warmed up and ready to go” type of loss …..

  • Ben

    Thanks to Equality Case Files, I have been able to read the transcript of the trial. It is fucking disgusting. They would lure people in with all sorts of confident claims, but on the witness stand they would say “Well, we don’t keep any records of how often this succeeds” or “I don’t really know that what I said was true.” The best part was when the defendants called a few men who were “success stories.” But not one of them was a normal functioning heterosexual. There was one guy his 60s who had had over 1000 male sex partners and is still looking for the right girl. Another was on the reality show “My Husband’s Not Gay.” And a third guy, who also had had 1000 male sex partners and was a sex addict, went through therapy, had sex with 3 women on one weekend and then has never had sex with anyone since and says he doesn’t want to fantasize about women. So that’s what success looks like.

    • zhera

      “And a third guy, who also had had 1000 male sex partners and was a sex addict, went through therapy, had sex with 3 women on one weekend and then has never had sex with anyone since and says he doesn’t want to fantasize about women.”

      They should start over as a sex addiction clinic….

  • Rene Salinas

    I’m eagerly awaiting the sadz.

  • The Professor

    NOT saying there is a correlation, but…

  • ryan charisma

    I could have told you that.

    Why do we constantly have to prove things about ourselves that others decide we’re lying about?

    I will never understand.

  • scorpiomike

    Looking forward to some delicious SADZ tomorrow morning. But must save some room for the gigantic helping of SADZ to come either tomorrow or Monday. Delicious, delicious SADZ!

  • Queequeg

    Lets hope Maggie’s bad month ends with a bang on a favorable marriage equality decision. Glad this case ended as it did.

  • JCF

    http://replygif.net/i/468.gif

    Keep the good news coming! [Come on, SCOTUS!]

  • StraightGrandmother

    Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha To ALL the HATERS!
    I tweeted SPLC right away & asked if they were going to collect attorneys fees, so this is the first I have heard that they were going to ask for fees.

    All i can say is I am GLAD Maggie Gallagher is NOT on my side, everything she touches goes right straight down the toilet. Worst advocate EVAH!

    • Yes, there will be separate motions for attorney’s fees and an injunction. Those are matters for the judge, not the jury, so will be handled separately in the near future.

    • Reality.Bites

      Well not EVERYTHING she touches goes straight down the toilet.

      A lot of it permanently attaches itself to her hips.

  • Michael

    God continues to smite Homophobia, Inc. When will they wake up and listen?

  • Michael Senesac

    “I trust this jury.” Maggie Gallagher speaking on CBN June 1st. Now let’s hear her backtrack.

    • Reality.Bites

      Doesn’t sound like it even took them a long time to decide either.

    • Jack

      It never really occurred to me that she was so stupid.

  • Please, more of these. Ex-gay therapy is fraud and anyone who got suckered into it should sue. I hate the lawsuit happy culture but sometimes suing frauds out of business is the only way. Also, it exposes the light on them and makes them have to defend their fraud and lack of results (except higher suicide rates) in public. Sue Sue Sue until the last of these is gone.

  • TrollopeReader

    Brian Brown at 4pm today ….”

    Our Very Way of Life is on the Line

    JUNE 25, 2015 AT 4:02 PM

    By now you should be prepared for the worst. There is a strong possibility (many say high likelihood) that the Supreme Court will impose same-sex β€˜marriage’ on the entire nation either tomorrow or Monday. While this would be an illegitimate and lawless ruling (because there is no constitutional authority for it), we must remember that man-made law never supersedes natural law. β€œMarriage” will ever remain the union between a man and a woman because its unique meaning and purpose is to bring together the two halves of humanity to provide the best environment for raising children.- See more at: http://www.nomblog.com/#sthash.TdqLoN6B.dpuf

    • mykelb

      Lolz. They really have to keep preaching that nonsense b/c people question the basic logic of it. Go ahead, try convincing yourself of the empty lies of religion and see how it improves your life.

  • JJS_prime

    One down, how many to go?

  • Gerry Fisher

    Obamacare survives another Supreme Court challenge, we’re about to get national marriage equality (fingers crossed), and Maggie loses all in one week. I’m sorry, but I think I’m about to pop!

  • Jim

    Exposing a fraud is always good. However. All the plaintiffs in the suit are adults. How would an adult with a modicum of common sense and critical thinking fall for such transparent nonsense in the first place? Some guy calls himself a “life coach” and says that if you do X, Y, and Z plus fees, then you’ll get a different sexuality–and adults believe him, fork over bucks, actually do X, Y, and Z, nothing happens, and then they claim that they’ve been cheated. Hello? How lucky for the plaintiffs that they can’t be counter sued for stupidity. Inflicting this crap on minors is intolerable and should be outlawed. But adults must be responsible for their actions and should not get to pass the blame for their own foolishness onto the hucksters who’ve played them for fools. Just as you can’t cheat as genuinely honest man, you can’t defraud a sensible one or deceive an intelligent one.

    • Pinkamena Diane Pie

      So you beleive that someone who is defrauded deserves it?

      You know what it’s called when you believe that? Psychologists have a term for it: SOCIOPATHY.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      By that logic, Bernie Madoff should still be in business.

      • Jim

        How’s that? Everybody knew that Madoff was running a scam. How could one man consistently make a profit year in and year out no matter what happened in financial markets? People knew he was cheating and they wanting in on the scam. They were just as crooked as he was.

    • StraightSupporter

      When society has conditioned people of non-heterosexual orientations to despise themselves, to feel guilty or shameful of their own existence, and furthermore has permitted the continued vilification by means of discrimination in employment, housing, goods and services, and about anything else for that matter, it’s not hard to see how intensely such people could feel that if only they could change, they would be accepted and treated with dignity. Society created the disease of self-hate by vilifying them, and then attempts to sell a fake cure. I see this as no different than a doctor telling a person they have some condition, attaching a stigma to that condition and going through great lengths to alienate that person from the rest of society based on this claimed condition, lying to the rest of society that members with this condition are no better than child molesters, murderers, and rapists, and will be the downfall of all of civilization, convincing the person themselves that the condition is bad for them, and then trying to sell the person a claimed cure for what amounts to an invented condition to begin with.

    • All of the young men who brought this lawsuit came from extremely religious backgrounds where almost all their understanding of the world was in the context of their closed religious community. With the exception of Michael Ferguson (who was a little older), they had had almost no interaction with society outside this community. Chaim Levin testified that at the time he came to JONAH, he had never watched TV or seen a movie.

      One of Plaintiffs’ experts testified that it is precisely this circumstance of so many who came to JONAH looking for “help” that makes them so vulnerable and easy to take advantage of.

      I really recommend reading the transcripts so you know the testimony that was presented in court before making blanket statements about how responsible these 18, 19 year olds should be for what they were put through.

      http://files.eqcf.org/cases/ferguson-v-jonah-unofficial-trial-transcripts/

      • Jim

        Surely adults are expected to exercise the same amount of responsible, critical thinking in examining the claims of therapists that they would exercise while shopping for a car or expensive stereo equipment. You don’t just plop down $50,000 for a car without due consideration first, so why hand yourself over to a therapist without at least as much due consideration and, better yet, more? Adults are supposed to exercise judgment and caution. That’s why they’re adults and not minors.

  • way late to the party so i’m sure i’m not the first, but:

    wouldn’t it be cool if we could sue churches and temples and houses of grift for fraud? for making promises they can’t keep, and taking people’s money?

    let’s hope this is a step in that direction.

  • TheSeer

    I want their sadz, but they seem not to be able to catch a breath these days.

  • zhera

    Wonderful!

    Damn, what a great day for American law this has been. πŸ˜€

  • Snarkaholic
  • teedofftaxpayer

    Lets sue them all out of existence. It would be the easiest way since there is no proof they’ve actually converted someone. Someone might go back into the closet, but that doesn’t mean they’re “cured”.

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    Oh dirty Maggie Mae they have taken her away
    And she’ll never walk down Lime Street any more
    Oh the judge he guilty found her for robbing a homeward bounder
    That dirty no good robbing Maggie Mae . . .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6CTBMlu1PA

  • JR

    Keep the pressure on, SPLC. I want this man sued into oblivion.

  • mykelb

    An extrapolation of logic would have the court come to the conclusion that Abrahamic religions are fraudulent as well and put an injunction on them from collecting money.