IRELAND: Will It Be A Yes For Equality?

Posted yesterday’s by Britain’s Channel 4: “Ireland is just days away from the world’s first referendum on whether same-sex couples should be allowed to marry. We meet the Yes votes in the capital cities and the No voters in the country towns.”

  • Baltimatt

    Perhaps the world’s first national referendum on allowing same-sex couples to marry. Voters in Maine (US state) enacted SSM by referendum.

    • Gene

      Maryland and Washington State also…

      And, Ireland is tiny, but, this victory, in a nation known for its traditional conservative outlook, would be HUGE.

      FINGERS crossed.

      Oddly, both my “No” associate, and my “Yes” friend are both hopeful….we will, someday saturday, see.

      ODD SIDE NOTE….few nations are following this more closely than (!) POLAND… ALL of my Polish friends, whatever their views, have the opinion that “if it could happen THERE….well…it could happen HERE”…some with joy..some with H O R R O R.

      • Baltimatt

        I put them in a slightly different category, as the Maryland and Washington, SSM was enacted by the legislature but then petitioned to referendum so that voters could uphold or reject the new law.

        • Bj Lincoln

          Maryland was hit HARD by signature collectors then harder by anti-gay TV and radio ads and crap in the mail before the vote. The tears when we won…….
          Now it’s time for the rest of you to join us and I can go home.

        • tn787

          I still think both were a huge deal. We won the popular vote for the first time in those states. Unless you count Arizona rejecting their ban the first time around.

      • tn787

        I forgot about Maryland. Also, I think Switzerland legalized civil unions through referendum. And Finland forced their parliament to vote on SSM through petition.

      • ChrisMorley

        ‘Tiny’ Ireland: 4,595,000
        Maine 1,328,361
        Maryland 5,773,552
        Washington state 6,724,540

        So, not so small after all.
        Prospects in Poland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_of_same-sex_unions_in_Poland

        • Bj Lincoln

          I love facts. Thank you.

        • You comparing apples to oranges. States vs a country, and yes a tiny country. Two of the states have a larger population that Ireland does.

      • Nexus1

        I see you are now calling your “No” friend an associate, from your previous posts about him and this issue I understand why you’ve made that change.

    • Circ09

      Let’s hope it doesn’t take Ireland more than one crack at it like it did Maine.

  • Phil

    Ireland:
    Urban: 61.9%
    Rural: 38.1%

    • TommyTune

      That is very encouraging to read.

  • disqus_oCvsL5SBJH

    pins and needles…

  • TommyTune

    Years ago I remember hearing the phrase, “God made the country, man made the big cities, but the Devil made small towns.” In this case that certainly holds true.

  • Nursling

    Having grown up in Ireland, this report is comfortably and uncomfortably familiar. If the YES vote wins, it will send a powerful message around the world(yes you Putin, yes you Scalia). It will make Ireland a place that may welcome- or attract- many of her emigrants home again with the vision of a progressive, tolerant and caring society. I wait, with tears of happiness at the ready…and the memory of historical disappointments unforgotten. When I return in June, I may be entering a new country.

    • Queequeg

      I hope you do enter a new country. It is time that attitudes and laws change, not just in Ireland, but here as well. The next few weeks will be important, with the vote in Ireland and the Supreme Court decision in the
      U. S. Good luck to you, and to Ireland.

    • Bj Lincoln

      We are right behind you, cheering you on. I do hope for both our sakes, our countries become inclusive, welcoming and equal. Good luck to ya!

  • bryan

    The idiotic excuses some people make to hide their bigotry : The woman who said : ‘I’m voting no/ Not because I don’t think they should be married, but because they shouldn’t be used as a political football’. As if she is doing us a favor. Surely if she really thought that, she wouldn’t vote at all.

  • Queequeg

    The no voters are just as irrational as they are here. “Two men should not lay down together”, well they will, marriage or not. “Children need a mother and father”, many do not have both parents.
    I did like that the one yes vote woman said the Catholic Church should “mind its own business”.

    • Gustav2

      I said to a religious nut: “So make it law that every child must have a mother and a father raising him/her. Eliminate divorce, raise penalties on abandonment, and outlaw death.”

      reply: “But that’s life.”

      Argh!

      • kevin vincent

        Blind hypocrisy huh?

  • Mr. E

    Fingers crossed and hoping for the best! I REALLY hope we win! The last thing I want to hear is the bigots harping on about how “conservative Ireland” stuck to “traditional values” or other nonsense, fuel to the haters! Blech!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Regardless of polls or prognostications, I dearly hope that all those who want a yes vote actually get out and vote yes. Remember kids, the only poll that truly matters is the one on election day. Make it happen Ireland!!!!

  • noni

    John Waters featured in the video is a pathetic old self loathing closeted homophobe.

    http://www.johnwaters.ie/content/biography

  • Billy N.

    Check out this article from the Irish Times. It list how every member of the Irish Parliament intends to vote in the referendum. A huge majority of them intend to vote “Yes”. That is very encouraging and extremely amazing. Imagine if a similar vote was taken in the US Congress, it would definitely not look this way.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/how-is-your-local-td-voting-in-the-marriage-referendum-1.2220129

  • Macbill

    I’m looking forward to “Yes for Marriage Equality” winning, because I want to see Bill Donahoe’s head explode.