Barney Frank: If Aaron Schock Is Gay, He Has Forfeited His Right To The Closet

“I don’t know if he’s gay or not. But if he is, he’s forfeited any right to privacy because he votes anti-gay. My view is that people who are gay who vote to support the right of other people to do it have a right to privacy, but the right to privacy does not include hypocrisy. The one thing that puzzled me, The New York Times had a story about how he redecorated his office to look like Downton Abbey, but all I saw were pictures of like Ulysses S. Grant. It’s obviously sort of disjunctive in my mind. There were all these pictures of Republican presidents. I don’t know what they were doing in Downton Abbey. I suppose you could say, from a certain angle, Herbert Hoover does look a little bit like Maggie Smith depending on the light, but nobody could have been Ulysses S. Grant. I have to say, if they’re not true [the rumors], he spent entirely too much time in the gym for a straight man.” – Barney Frank, speaking to Business Insider.

  • Absolutely – outing is appropriate in this case.

  • Outing in this case I would have no problem with… and that has got to be the funniest thing I’ve ever read from Barney. SNAP!

    • guest

      Outing, in most cases is wrong. I stand by the old book, “The Principle of Life Ownership,” written as proof the Bible is not a moral book, but TPOLO is a moral book, makes it clear. We each have a right to be left alone. People deserve to come out in their own terms, even if that is sadly, never.

      That written, the HUGE EXCEPTION is that if anyone is voting against us , or working against us, and especially if they are actively (especially aggressively) acting against us, the f*cking OUT them. We should crowd source fund what Larry Flint did, and if proven people like Schock is gay, the outer gets money.

      I have zero sympathy and zero empathy for anyone working against our community, if they come at us from the outside or from within.

      • guest

        And rights are between you and your government. And the government has no “right to privacy” listed. Yet I am thankful that we have a tradition that extends to some “rights” (better word choice: Traditions) of privacy, in areas like needing to have a warrant issued. I do hope someday we see a firm Supreme Court decision that gives firm rights to privacy, or that we see Congress pass some amendments off from what FDR proposed.

        I also wish people did not use the word “right” the way we do, as it falls on the idiots on the right and they think everything is a “right.”

      • gewaite

        Does this apply to those not in government, e.g. heads of businesses that discriminate against their employees who are gay? Or clergy in religions that discriminate?

        • guest

          I my opinion, if they are actively working against us, then Hell yes!

          If the CEO, or a major leader of the chicken Hater place were gay, then yes. (I thought my comment was rather clear)

          • fuow

            Your comment was rather confused than clear.
            Not that that’s a departure from your usual style.
            In point of fact, when somebody asks you a reasonable question or makes a reasonable point, your default position is to make such a stupid statement as you did here. Or, worse, to attack them.
            You’re sick. Get back on your meds.

      • fuow

        I disagree, completely.
        Closeted gay people hurt the rest of us queers.
        They need to come out.

    • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

      I love this one. Closet case/pipsqueak Rep. Patrick McHenry acting like a douchebag on the House floor about Nancy Pelosi’s plane travel, and Barney comes in with a reference from “Fantasy Island”: “I thought I heard someone saying, ‘The plane, Boss, the plane!”.

  • kinda babbly there at the end, don’t know if all that was helpful supporting his important point. which is of course that officials who discriminate against gays on the job must be outed.

  • DaddyRay

    Schock can fade away into obscurity now

    • He’s not going anywhere – America loves a comeback story. Even if he goes to jail, he’ll find some way to cash in on this.

      • Jmdintpa

        he will have some kind of im so sorry coming out story and try to make money off that. probably do a book and get promoted by some HRC group or something. then do dancing with the stars !!!!!

        • guest

          And Chad “I did it myself” at the HRC will claim credit that he, Chad, all by himself convinced Aaron to come out.

      • bkmn

        Remember he is a Republican so if he “finds” Jeebus he can be back in grace in less than a year and be even more anti-gay than he is now.

        • Chucktech

          Not if he’s a homo, he’s not coming back. Jeezy hates queers, just like all good Republicans do.

    • Joe in PA

      not before he goes to jail!

    • Cousin Bleh

      Schock should join Mark Foley and Larry Craig for their weekly Mah Jong and Martini nights.

      • Todd20036

        Schock is too old for Foley and too exhibitionist for Craig.

        • Cousin Bleh

          I meant more for emotional support, not sex. EWWW

  • Joe in PA

    Maggie is not happy with that comparison:

    • TommyTune

      Then there’s the time Maggie Smith said FU:

      • Phil2u

        I do love this movie. I’m of that generation, though somewhat younger, and it is sometimes a challenge to keep one’s balance, physically and emotionally speaking. I think Tom Courtenay steals the show in this. Does anyone remember “Loneliness of the Long-distance Runner?”

        • Circ09

          Don’t know that movie but was freaked out the other day when I read Ian McKellan is playing Norman in a new movie version of “The Dresser” opposite Anthony Hopkins.

          • Phil2u

            Wow. I’ll investigate.

    • All Hail Madame Maggie!

    • KCMC

      But oh, Barney. Made my day.

      “…from a certain angle, Herbert Hoover does look a little bit like Maggie Smith depending on the light,…”

  • Billanddogs

    Aaron Schock is now irrelevant and no one cares if he’s gay or not. Well, I guess we will care for awhile, but soon we won’t even remember his name.

  • popebuck1

    Barney Frank needs a show on MSNBC. Or maybe he should just hang out with Andy Cohen on Bravo. Half an hour nightly of Barney and Andy sipping margaritas and being bitchy about people – hell, I’d watch that in a heartbeat.


      If Barney Frank were to hang out with Andy Cohen on Bravo, Frank’s friends would have him committed and who would blame them?

  • Steven Alan Taylor

    Can we focus on how the man’s a corrupt douchebag with complete moral corruption without all this high school gay-baiting bullshit? I don’t care about his sexuality; I care about what he does as a legislator about my rights as a person who isn’t straight. If he’s a hypocrite, so what, join the goddamned human race.

    • fuow

      I’m sorry, but I think it’s totally appropriate to out gay men who bash other gay men.
      I lost my first husband to Aids. I lost virtually my entire generation of friends and acquaintances to Aids.
      If your a gay politician and you bash gay people, you need to be outed.

      • I won’t argue the first sentence, because I fully agree.

        But it points out the validity of Steven’s point – everyone here makes the ASSUMPTION that Schock is a closet case, when all we have are a handful of photos that are compromising, but NOT conclusive proof.

        Over-all, I have to agree with Steven. I don’t really give a damn if the dickless boy wonder is gay – we have enough assholes in our camp as it is. Our concern should be focused on the corruption, the grift, fraud, and the law-breaking.

        If, later on, someone comes out with a BlueRay disc of themselves fucking Schock in the ass, and boy-wonder loving it, THEN we can have fun with that part of his character… and you can email me an order form for a copy.

    • Polterguest

      His being an anti-gay closet is case is part of his moral corruption.

    • Rambie

      False dichotomy there, why can’t we do both? While investigating his corruption (and why stop at him? Let’s audit all of Congress). Also, if he’s hiding in the closet while actively working against the LGBT community then he should be outed.

  • Gustav2

    Does Mr Frank know any straight men under the age of 35? The amount of gym time by some of my younger straight acquaintances is staggering. I don’t know how they have time to have any other social life.

    • fuow

      I’ve heard that, too. Seems a bit, um, unusual to me – I always thought straight men were more into sniffing out women than other men’s sweaty jock straps, shows what I know.

    • Brian in Valdosta

      I was going to point out the same thing. I am a university professor, and the number of stunning physiques sported by students on my campus is staggering. Most could appear on the cover of a fitness magazine next to any professional fitness model and hold his own.

      And – sadly – they can’t all be gay.

      • Gustav2

        It has required adjustments to my gaydar.

    • Dean

      All my younger, narcissistic acquaintances with stunning physiques that are almost 34 years of age do have either a girlfriend, a wife or a boyfriend du jour. His style is just too gay.

  • Jmdintpa

    what did dumbledore say… im kidding ! i hope mr schock gets all he deserves and good for mr frank.. go get’em maw dear

  • fuow

    Gay and a Republican? Out the mother-fucking asswipe.

  • Sam_Handwich

    i miss barney as my rep

    • Bad Tom

      Me too.

    • Todd20036

      I used to live with him – he had an apartment in the building I live in. Sweetheart of a man, smart as a Mensa student.

      • Joe in PA

        He used to (and probably still does) drive the cheapest cars. (Take THAT Aaron Schlock!)

        I walked past him one day as he was loading his ancient Chevy Cavalier. The trunk was loaded with papers/books/junk. What a character.

  • Aaron Schock isn’t gay. He just a vain, preening, corrupt fratboy who has absorbed some homo aesthetics.

    • or so Schock says XD

    • Octavio

      You mean that Schock is just a “metrosexual”? Oh, my!

  • delk

    Neil Patrick Harris will have the lead in the HBO docudrama.

  • perversatile

    said the man that thought “gym” was short for James.

  • TC

    Hysterical! He should go into stand-up comedy. One zinger after another!


    Barney Frank can’t understand why a congressman rumored to be gay has “pictures of U.S. Grant” in his office? Srsly? Pres. Grant was adorable!

    (P.S. Although Grant was a terrible judge of character and ran an awful administration, he was personally a wonderful man and was probably the most beloved American of the 19th century. The stories about him being a drunk are false. He actually didn’t drink much because he didn’t handle liquor well. Too bad Aaron Schock didn’t emulate Grant’s character instead of erecting an empty shrine to him.)

  • ShakesbearSF

    Dear Aaron,
    Why ask for the moon when you might have Dancing with the Stars?

  • That statement just went all over the place. The Russian Prince looked like Grant. (Maggie’s love interest.)

    I’m a big fan of U.S. Grant. I think I put his boots on the wrong feet in the first photo.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Ohhh, man, I miss his erudite snark. 🙂 (Though I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of it!)

  • VodkaAndPolitics

    I actually have a problem with Mr. Frank’s statement here… We need to have a much better understanding of what a “right” is, in this country. Our rights to freedom of expression, religion, speech, press, etc protect us from GOVERNMENTAL impediment and censure, not PUBLIC. There is no “Right to Privacy” where PUBLIC backlash is concerned. Mr. Schock has no freedom from public reporting on his sexuality regardless of how he votes in congress. If the reporting is untrue, then he has the RIGHT to sue for Libel or Slander.

    • Yes, true. I think what Mr Frank wants us to infer is that voting to deny us rights in order to better hide is just so slimy it’s like Schock’s using us as human shields after calling for a firing squad against his own secret heart. Turnabout –pulling Schock in front of the fusillade of bullets– is only fair play. Of course the latest fiscal revelations show Schock is a complete corrupt poseur, a fraud in every way…. Bye Felicia!

      • Octavio

        Points for “currupt poseur.”

  • Ted

    In case you missed it, Barney was interviewed by Terry Gross on NPR’s “Fresh Air” on Monday as he has a new bio/memoir coming out. I thought it was interesting to hear.

  • Toasterlad

    If?! IF?!?

  • Smartypants

    Barney has always had one of the sharpest minds and some of the sharpest claws in politics, but held himself back during his time in office. With retirement he no longer checks himself and it’s very fun.

    My personal Barney story is from back in the early 90s when I was working on a campaign for an out candidate and he was the star attraction at one of our biggest fundraisers. The hosts had a yappy little Yorkshire terrier that kept trying to jump on the congressman and nipping at him. When no one was looking he lifted the dog with his foot and launched it across the room. That pooch was airborn — fortunately it landed without damage, but it left him alone afterward. It reminded me of the old WC Fields quote, “Anyone who hates dogs and children can’t be all bad.”

  • Bj Lincoln

    My gaydar does not work well, but the great photos and personal photographer did make me raise an eyebrow. Young, good looking all around and looks like a jet setter…!

    • Chucktech

      I must say, he certainly does quack like a big, fat, fabulous gay duck, doesn’t he?

    • Stev84

      There are some unconfirmed witness reports that saw him in the shower with another man.

  • Octavio

    “I suppose you could say, from a certain angle, Herbert Hoover does look a little bit like Maggie Smith depending on the light . . .” I do enjoy Barney’s particular brand of humor. He’s obviously enjoying no longer being in Congress. 🙂

  • sfbob

    He is and he has. I’m sure Frank KNOWS Schock is gay. Who doesn’t?

  • Timothy Kincaid

    Thanks for the stereotypes, bloated windbag!

    • DN

      OK so about a month ago you mocked the investigation into his misdoings (something to the effect of “so he drives a Tahoe and stays at the Wynn. Big deal”). But you completely ignored him selling his home well above market value – to a donor, and now you’re upset that Barney Frank is going after stereotypes?

      Care to address the 90,000 miles of made-up expenses on his “big deal” Chevy Tahoe? Care to address him selling his house way over market value to one of his donors?

      On Joe’s post about Rachel Maddow’s commentary, I wondered if you would come to his defense. You haven’t quite done that here, but it’s close. I’m not surprised you’re avoiding the allegations of financial malfeasance on the part of a republican.

    • DN

      As for the “bloated” part of your commentary…

  • NeverEclipsed81

    you also lose your right to privacy when you post your life all over instagram. yeah it didn’t take a genius to figure out he had a professional photographer after that surfing photo.

  • ChitownKev

    Ok but this

    I suppose you could say, from a certain angle, Herbert Hoover does look a little bit like Maggie Smith depending on the light

    a wee bit catty; Maggie Smith IS a diva, after all.

  • JCF

    “I have to say, if they’re not true [the rumors], he spent entirely too much time in the gym for a straight man.”


    • How does he walk on those pins? Looks like they’d snap at the ankle with the slightest pressure.

      • perversatile

        “last time I saw legs like dat-
        der was a note tied to ’em”
        -one of my Grandaddy’s favorite things to say.

  • JDegarson

    we gays are so shady

    ” I suppose you could say, from a certain angle, Herbert Hoover does look a little bit like Maggie Smith depending on the light”