Pope Francis: Transgender People Destroy God’s Creation Like Nuclear Weapons

“Let’s think of the nuclear arms, of the possibility to annihilate in a few instants a very high number of human beings.  Let’s think also of genetic manipulation, of the manipulation of life, or of the gender theory, that does not recognize the order of creation. With this attitude, man commits a new sin, that against God the Creator. The true custody of creation does not have anything to do with the ideologies that consider man like an accident, like a problem to eliminate. God has placed man and woman and the summit of creation and has entrusted them with the earth. The design of the Creator is written in nature.” – Pope Francis, in an interview with Italian journalists.

  • oikos

    Fuck you douche pope.

    • zhera

      Oooh, that’s a great one!

    • gaymex

      While my sentiments are with your post. The latin root of the word “religion” is in dispute…

      http://forward.com/articles/10776/roots-of-religion/

      • oikos

        Thanks for sharing this. 🙂

      • Toasterlad

        The origin may be in dispute, but the definition is spot on.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Douche Pope. I like it. 🙂 Although it’s redundant.

  • j.martindale

    I see now why they make him wear a dunce cap.

    • Larry Ft Pierce

      I thought he copied it from the Grand Wizard?

      • Mark

        Or vice versa – – same package, different dress.

        • grada3784

          Not quite. Pope Sybil’s gear doesn’t come with a matching mask with eyeslits.

          Thank you to the poster Yalma Cuder Zicci who came up with the Pope Sybil. It is so appropriate.

  • No. Moral. Authority. Whatsoever.

    • Gigi

      My born again Christian family members believe that the Pope is the anti-Christ. I think they might be on to something.

      • Jmdintpa

        down south?thats where i grew up and they all preach that on the down low in the protestant denominations down south. jews killed jesus, blacks are inferior and the pope is the anti christ…

        • Gigi

          They think that in Canada as well. There’re just fewer of them here.

      • Mark

        I thought that was President Obama’s role, or is that the 7th horseman of the apocalypse? I always get those two mixed up.

        • oikos

          Can’t he be both? 🙂

          • Mark

            Ooooo multi-tasking – love it!

        • Oh’behr

          I think it’s always a Bush and it was Reagan too. Next up, Jeb for the anti-Christ. Or Walker.

          • grada3784

            You forgot Queen Elizabeth, with her picture on all that money. She’s made her mark.

        • Gigi

          It’s all very confusing.

        • Paula

          Wait! I thought he was King of the Goblins?

        • grada3784

          No. Nowadays, Obama is the 7th king. Just one in a line of pre-cursors.

      • GuestPoster

        LoL. And Bergoglio most likely thinks that your “born again Christian family” is going to be burning in Hell for all eternity because they haven’t bent their knee and accepted the one true faith.

        GP

      • StraightGrandmother

        That is funny gigi

    • GuestPoster

      Well, no duuuuuuh. It’s the fucking Catholic church. That should have been self evident the minute it came out that they covered up the rape of children by priests employees of the church.

      GP

      • grada3784

        That’s plain silly. Everybody knows the Catholic Church is the Great Whore.

  • Gigi

    One step forward, 10 steps back.

    • GuestPoster

      No steps forward and none back in fact. It’s the same Catholic church as always. It simply amazes me that everyone fell for the kinder, gentler Catholic church schtick that Bergoglio presented early in his career as CEO Supreme Pontiff™.

      GP

      • Gigi

        The RCC establishment might not have changed much in the past 1000 years, but Catholics have. Many don’t pay much attention to the Pope’s blathering, and they support gay rights and SSM. The problem is that they don’t say anything when either he or one of his minions makes such hateful statements.

        • Amanda B. Rekendwith

          Yet if they continue to put dollars on the collection plate, they aid and abet all of the horrifics whether they claim to agree or not.

          • clay

            In the US, they’re putting much less in the collection plate than 15 years ago. Catholic Charities and individual missions are still taking it in, but the dioceses are getting squeezed.

      • StraightGrandmother

        I Never fell for this Pope, never.
        I read what Cardinal Dolan said in Rome after a big Cardinal meeting the Pope had called about 6 months after the Pope was elected. Dolan said that the Cardinals should KEEP GOING AND NOT CHANGE their public policy work re:gays.
        The bottom line is that this pope is trying to straddle a line he cannot straddle, out of one side of his mouth we hear, “Who am I to judge” while on the other side of his mouth we hear him telling his Cardinals, “Keep going, keep fighting the gays politically.” Make no mistake his Humanum Conference in November (was it October?) was his trumpet call to fight the gays politically AND to rally other religions to join in with him.

        • GuestPoster

          I would simply say that Bergoglio is speaking with a forked tongue and really doesn’t believe any of this “kinder and gentler Catholic church” shit he was spouting early in his career as CEO of the largest, most corrupt organization existing in the world today. (And you don’t get to that point by being a nice person. In any organization.)

          The bottom line is that Bergoglio was nothing more than a clever PR maneuver by the Princes of the Church(1) to try and present a “kinder and gentler” Catholic church after the disasterous reign of Ratzinger.

          It worked for a while. But now we’re seeing the true Bergoglio. And it ain’t pretty. >:-(

          GP

          (1) That’s the Cardinals. The true power in the church and the ones who will never allow it to change because they simply cannot relinquish the power and authority they have garnered.

    • Gerry Fisher

      “BUT DON’T FORGET THAT I TOOK THAT STEP FORWARD!!!”

  • crewman

    That should lower the murder rate against transgender people.

    • Gene

      1) I cant not help but think of that trans man from Spain who was so gushing about his meeting with the pope….he must feel like an idiot now
      2) never been happier to be a)American, where the Pope does not get to set law…and evangelicals are learning they cannot either b) Protestant….and thus not fucking impressed with this idiot in any case
      3) when people are beaten up…when trans people die (I hope and pray not, but words like this will influence the unbalanced and vicious) will the Roman Catholic Church say one fucking word? Nah. and if they do, it will just be empty words.

      • StraightGrandmother

        Reguaring your point 2a, how do you feel about Speaker of the House John Boehner inviting this Pope to address a joint session of Congress this summer (maybe it is the fall, I forget which)? How does that make you feel being an American and the Pope comparing people who are transgender to a nuclear bomb?

        • 2patricius2

          I don’t think any leader of a religion should be invited to address a joint session of Congress.

    • TreGibbs

      …and the suicide rate.

  • Gustav2

    Goodness, he is sounding more and more like that elderly relative you can never be sure how their meds are making them think.

  • The Professor

    Dude, you’re in a dress with a big fabulous hat. You’re halfway there already.

    • Princess Lardass

      *spits Arizona Green Tea all over computer* LOL! ^^THIS!!!!!!!!!!^^

  • Randy Ellicott

    Snarky comment… Snarky Rebuttal… blah, blah, blah…. Better than last Pope… Blah, blah, blah…. and the record plays again with the same tune at a different tempo…

  • The design of the Creator is written in nature.

    Death, suffering, natural catastrophes, painful and/or lethal diseases, … Not sure whether he wants us to believe in a sadistic Creator, or an utterly incompetent one.

    • Bad Tom

      Well, the sex is pretty hot.

      • Joe knows who I am.

        …said no alter boy ever.

    • Robincho

      Thank you, Stephen Fry…

    • grada3784

      No, just one with a very warped sense of humor and serious control and self-esteem issues.

  • Jmdintpa

    all this talk about the new attitude pope… he is the same bullshitter as the other popes imams and preachers… like we used to say when i was young… “fuck the pope”

  • Fuck the motherfucking pope.

    http://youtu.be/rTIorwtJbhE

    • David Milley

      Love me some Tim Minchin.

  • David Milley

    Gosh, he’s just a bag of hate after all, isn’t he?

  • Mark

    It’ none of your fucking business dickwad — when someone is transgender, it doesn’t’ mean you have to be – shut the fuck up already.

  • Robert W. Pierce

    Only the gullible fall for his phony facade. What a vile piece of work he is.

    • Mark

      Advocate sure picked a winner last year, didn’t they?

      • Todd20036

        This year they picked Putin

        • Oh’behr

          Oh my, they really did pick Putin. I really don’t get out much.

        • What the hell? Why on earth did the Advocate pick Putin to be on their cover?

          • David Walker

            They all got off on the picture of him shirtless and riding a horse. I think they have an enbiggened copy of it in their men’s room (I’m pretty sure they don’t have gender neutral restrooms). That picture was burned into my brain, but, on the good side, so was the picture of Obama in his swimwear.

          • clay

            Once Russia fully annexes all of Ukraine, Putin’s going without pants, as well.

          • Raising_Rlyeh

            advocate stated tht they pick people who have the most impact, good or bad, on lgbt people and rights around the world. Kind of like how time had hitler as a person of the year.

          • CottonBlimp

            I think they realized they’d made a mistake putting Francis on the cover the previous year and they’re now trying to pretend that “Person of the Year” isn’t necessarily an accolade.

            They should have just written a correction and an apology.

        • Gerry Fisher

          To be fair, they put a Hitler mustache on Putin for their cover. But still!

      • Gene

        the difference between the woefully misnamed Advocate and toilet paper is that I am upset if I am in the john and there is no toilet paper.

        • Bad Tom

          Toilet paper is vital to my life.
          The Advocate? Not so much.

      • StraightGrandmother

        I was so furious when the Advocate named him person of the year. I hope this year they instead of picking a new person of the year, they print a big bold retraction of last years pick (the Pope).

        • Mark

          When I read that last year my jaw dropped and furious incredulous, gobsmacked – you name it – talk about rolling over to your overlords!

      • grada3784

        I’d do better picking my nose.

    • Ninja0980

      He said what people wanted to hear and they fell for it without fail.

      • Mark

        There were some of us who didn’t but seems more did than didn’t.

    • Jessi
  • Sam_Handwich

    The world has heard quite enough from this fuckin motor mouth. Bring back the old Nazi, at least he was good for a laugh.

  • zhera

    fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
    fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
    fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
    fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
    fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
    fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
    and the cross you rode in on.

    • Mark

      mmmmmm tell us how you really feel Z – – lol

      • zhera

        If he was right in front of me right now, I’d slap him. Then I’d insult his mother. 😉

        To compare ANY human to nuclear arms…. I’m just…. FUCK YOU, POOP!

    • LovesIrony

      and fuck your mother pope fuck your mother

    • Stev84
  • Ninja0980

    Sad to say, he’ll follow it up with something that sounds nice and people will once again think he is better then previous Popes when he is still a bigoted asshole representing a bigoted group.

    • BlueberriesForMe

      The “you’re taking my message out of context” or “that’s not what I really meant but yes, that’s actually what I really meant but I don’t want you to think that” kind of followup response.

  • gaymex

    …so says the man who many of us looked to for positive change. What a deluded fool he is and yet he leads millions of lemmings who think his word is infallible.

  • JaniceInToronto

    Fuck you Francis, fuck you with a big rubber dick.

    • Mark

      He’d probably enjoy it

    • Sam_Handwich

      a big rubber dick? do they even make such a thing?? ?

    • Todd20036

      I read that as a “big rubber duck”

  • Blake Jordan

    He is the leader of the biggest pedophile and money laundering ring in the world, no one should pay attention to what he has to say.

    • Mark

      But the sheeple hang on his every word and believe he is infallible. Idiots.

  • Porkie

    Is that a christmas jumper from Aunt Enid, peeking out from underneath his big white frock?

  • Mark

    My! That ought to take out every GMO across the planet. I mean – how could they ever dare to fuck with “god’s” will?? “entrusted them with the earth”?? Seems to me we got a plethora of places fucked up beyond repair done by companies whose board members sit in your fucking pews.

    Bigot.

  • Lars De

    “The design of the Creator is written in nature.”

    And your proof of this is what? You’ve had thousands of years to produce even the tiniest shred of evidence for this or any so-called god and yet nothing. You have nothing but a deeply flawed and sadistic text written by ancient men decades after this Christ guy was supposedly here. And even if you could prove that Christ did live it still doesn’t provide an ounce of evidence that a god exists.

    • Bad Tom

      This would work better if they actually studied nature.

  • medaka

    The design of the Creator is written in nature.

    Which is why the Creator is ok with giving children cancer.

  • Jessi

    yet more proof that Satan is the correct one to follow. their god is the false one.

  • HomerTh

    Wonder how many times Brian Brown ejaculated after reading this?

    • Pete

      Horrible thought about Brian Brown. makes me think of a pig squealing in the shit.

  • lymis

    Why is it that EVERYONE who claims that you can determine the will of the Creator by examining what’s “written in nature” then invariably turns around and completely ignores what’s actually happening in nature?

    If the design of the Creator is what’s written in nature, then that design, and therefore God’s will, includes same-sex pairings, multiple individual bondings, physically intersexed individuals, and entire species that go about sex and reproduction in radically different ways. The only reason we can’t extend that to things like whether there are animals that experience being transgender is that they can’t tell us about their inner experience. There’s no reason to believe they don’t exist.

    If there IS a message in God’s Creation, that message is diversity and wildly exuberant variation. Gay, bi and transgender individuals ARE natural, and therefore, a part of God’s plan – or else your entire claim is mere self-serving twaddle.

    To claim that you’re taking your cues from nature and then utterly discounting everything in nature that doesn’t fit tidily into your preconceived notions is at best illegitimate as either science or morality, but at worst, it’s the basis of genocides, oppression, and the ongoing deliberate harm to your fellow human beings.

    • Oh’behr

      Great post. Thank you.

    • Herald

      Well said, thanks!!!!!

    • BlueberriesForMe

      IRRC, (from HS Biology), when this guy

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Linnaeus

      (the “father” of taxonomy, i.e. “Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species) went to classify certain organisms, they fit neither entirely in either the “Plant” or “Animal” Kingdoms. He just ignored them.

      The point is, not everything always fits into one man-made “category” or another. Nature is as Nature does. You’d think someone who is supposed to be as “educated” as Franny would know this. But, no. Let’s keep on hating. Thanks, Franny. Never change. I know you won’t.

    • CPT_Doom

      Remember also some amphibians can change gender – it was a key plot point in “Jurassic Park,” because the geneticists filled in the “gaps” in dino DNA with amphibian copies, allowing the dinosaurs to also change genders and allow for reproduction.

      • IamM

        Many kinds of fish do as well. And in some reptiles their sex is determined by the temperature their egg was incubated at.

        • Reality.Bites

          Please tell me the males are hotter.

          • Bad Tom

            By almost 3 degrees Celsius!*
            ——-
            * Actually, I made that up on the spot. But it sounds really scientific, huh?

          • Regan DuCasse

            And then there’s that unique aspect of male seahorses being the gestational parent of the babies.
            And they are such beautiful things to behold too.
            And how the platypus is the only mammal that lays eggs.
            God indeed, didn’t want to be bored, nor have us be bored with EACH OTHER and nature around us.
            Well, I DO have issues with stinging bugs, and the Jerusalem cricket and other forms of what seems like mutant insects.
            But hey….it’s a hell of a planet, ain’t it?

          • grada3784

            A lot of male fish are really colorful, while females are drab.

            Think of guppies.

        • zhera

          Yup, that’s true. And there are some creatures (can’t remember if it was an insect or reptile or mammal, probably not a mammal) that are one sex in the beginning of life and another sex later. That is their NATURAL way of life.

          • WildwoodGuy

            Sole? Haddock? Flounder? I can’t remember!

          • Let’s just say the writers at Pixar set up the storyline so perfectly that if Nemo had not gotten lost, he’d have transitioned to Nema.

            Mother gets eaten and all but the Father and one immature male get eaten. In Clown fish this exact scenario triggers the immature male to switch to female to ensure the survival of the species.

          • WildwoodGuy

            Fascinating! I had no idea and had never heard of this.

          • FalinPerth

            Actually, it’s the other way round for Clown fish.
            Females are the bigger, stronger, aggressive, more dominant gender. Males are the weaker, smaller, submissive, younger fish. If the female dies, the biggest, most dominate male turns into the female (who then is the Alpha-leader of the group).
            So Nemo should have ended up with two moms (one deceased).

            That probably doesn’t play well for pope either…

            (I used to live with a marine biologist and her Clown fish colony)

      • Stev84

        Or species that only have one gender and reproduce through parthenogenesis. But still go through mating rituals.

        • WildwoodGuy

          Earthworms? I think. And then there’s the amazing aphid which can lay fertile eggs through sometimes as many as four to six generations without mating again. Very odd stuff out there!

        • grada3784

          Daphnia – sexual in the spring. Asexual reproduction in the fall.

      • Ginger Snap

        But those are made up dinosaurs not the ones jesus rode.

    • Annapolitan

      Nothing to add to this excellent post except a link to a good scientific article explaining some of it.

      http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

    • LarryChemEngr

      What do Artemis and Thor and Beelzebub have to say about this?

      • grada3784

        Beelzebub would be all abuzz.

        Artemis would change to her Selene guise and moon the Pope.

        And Thor would sing something like “If I had a Hammer”/

    • Rich Schanno

      Beautiful post. He can believe what he wants but don’t push “faith” in something you cant’ prove on others…

      • Amanda B. Rekendwith

        He can believe what he wants but don’t push “faith” in something you cant’ prove on others…
        B.b.bb..but without “faith”, he’s got nothin’!

        • Regan DuCasse

          I have faith in equal justice and opportunity. I have faith in genuine compassion, and acts of kindness.
          It takes so little investment in these, with very generous returns.
          The results are sometimes immediate, or at least, these results are enduring.
          Unfortunately, regardless this is true, how many people who believe in A god of sometimes, have less faith in this, than they do in what they CAN’T see.
          One can see love, and empathy in action, and take comfort in the result.

          One doesn’t have to profess to A God or claim believe in one, as long as one’s actions reflect the aforementioned.
          That’s why the commandment about how you treat another. Empathy is a better guiding principle than claimed piety.
          It is usually where the most ethical decisions and actions come from.
          But we see in action also, how many people of faith refuse to obey THAT commandment in their own lives.
          I don’t EVER want to hear about one’s faith, while not living by example.

    • Regan DuCasse

      Well, it was of course, the Church that ushered in the Dark Ages.
      Many African, Asian and Native American cultures of course, accepted transgender men and women as a tempering bridge between the sexes. There is more of a factor that that increase civil and social harmony, than Islam or Christian based religion can or ever did understand.
      Gender has been enforced, narrowly and brutally AGAINST nature.
      And meanwhile, females suffer great threat from males, in every culture in the world BECAUSE of religious, or male theories on their entitlement to be dominant.

      Gay and transgender individuals, offer all the mental, emotional, physical, intellectual and creative benefits to society, without all the sexual tension, built up from males being taught to dominate.
      And distrust anyone who can’t or won’t fit the unrealistic ideals about gender.
      And do so, as if this has had the most beneficial results, and is in harmony with nature.

      Sometimes the way the anti gay keep idealizing the male/female dynamic makes me want to laugh, if their delusion weren’t so otherwise dangerous.
      The stats on domestic violence, rape, sex trafficking and so on, belies their hubris about the “complimentariness”, of males and females.

      You are so right, lymis!
      It’s obvious our individual uniqueness, the diversity and variation in all living, and some not living things is testament itself that NONE of us, and nothing is ‘meant’ to be the same.

    • “The only reason we can’t extend that to things like whether there are
      animals that experience being transgender is that they can’t tell us
      about their inner experience. There’s no reason to believe they don’t
      exist.”

      Actually, we can. The brain has 20+ known sex-dimorphic sites and attributes. We know the genetic pathways that are followed for them to develop either “male” (-ish) or “female” (-ish). Researchers can (and do) induce those pathways in rats to go one way or the other by selectively blocking the gene expressions involved. The rats then act as expected, that is, as if their internal sense of sex does not match their genitals or reproductive organs, which develop independent of the brain during a different crucial development period.

    • ChadSF

      Well said and great argument, thank you. Unfortunately logic is NOT one of their strongest qualities.

    • Cattleya1

      So everyone should just settle for whatever they got… I guess this rules out boob jobs.

    • Six Pins Delores

      Why has that selfish prick Francis not reproduced?

      • grada3784

        We really don’t know if he has. Popes used to be real pigs. Nowadays, they’re just corrupt politicians.

        We really need the last Three stooges to be shown in Nixon drag.

  • furyatx

    Transgender people are in no way any type of “fissile” material and their atoms will not split when brought to critical conditions through explosive/implosive forces. This man suffers from “Gaydation” poisoning.

  • Joe in PA

    ah yes…the kinder, gentler poop.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    “The design of the Creator is written in nature.”

    So the Pope believes the Creator’s design is for 13 year olds to marry and start having babies, because puberty is nature saying they should.

  • GuestPoster

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA . . . snicker . . . snort . . .

    What amazes me is that Bergoglio had everyone fooled for at least a little while. At least long enough for the Advocate to name him the man “person” of the year and run a cover story about him.

    The Princes of the Church™ hit upon a brilliant marketing ploy when the decided to elected Bergoglio to the position of CEO Supreme Pontiff™ though I’m betting that they wish the PR campaign had lasted longer.

    GP

  • NMNative

    Screw you Frank.

    • gaymex

      “Frank”
      Your comment puts it in perspective.

  • Mary Ann

    I see Francis the Fucker is showing his true colors again.

  • 2patricius2

    Interesting article on gender in the Nation – a lot more variations than the male/female duality: http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

  • Top artist in the field of cattle fecal sculpting claims field of cattle fecal sculpting threatened by Trans individuals.

  • Richard Rush

    This is just another example of how religion produces piles of toxic waste while occasionally producing baloney which some people may find tasty, even though it’s not healthy.

    Contrast religion with science which produces piles of tangible results that educate us about the universe and improve our lives in a multitude of ways.

    While scientific discoveries build upon each other over time, and allow self-correction in the process, religion never evolves in a meaningful way beyond its original myths and fantasies, and if anything, fabricates new myths and fantasies in an effort to reinforce the original ones.

  • TerryInIowa

    Well, Mr. Pope, since you have such an understanding of this, could you please explain why some people are born with XxYy Chromosomes, is this the “man and woman” that you spoke of?

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Nuclear weapons……hmmmmm……that gives me an idea.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    This Poop sounded fair-minded at the beginning, and I rather liked him, but he has gone full-batshit crazy lately. Transgender people are like nuclear bombs? Done with him. Stomp out transphobia, (and stop the spread of nuclear weapons too!!)

  • Bj Lincoln

    Mother Nature is full of wonderful variations of gender, sex and reproduction. Stating “God” follows nature then restricts humans to one man and one woman in the missionary position for reproduction only is a lie. Thank Goddess I am Pagan!

  • Andrea Pizzocaro

    Well. Actually Pope Francis didn’t talk about transgenders. English gay news websites say that, but look at this Italian website: (http://www.gay.it/news/Per-Bergoglio-la–teoria-gender–e-come-la-bomba-atomica). The title is “According to Bergoglio “Gender Theory” is like a Nuclear Bomb”.

    You North-americans ought to learn what’s happening here Europe about the so-called “Gender Theory”.

    Read this NYT article: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/27/opinion/sierakowski-the-polish-churchs-gender-problem.html?_r=0

    Then download this free pdf: http://www.gwi-boell.de/en/2014/09/17/gender-scientificness-and-ideology

    • Menergy

      Fascinating article and information, Andrea! Thank you for the links.

      • Andrea Pizzocaro

        When the Vatican talks about “gender theory” or “ideology of gender” you must read ‘Gender’ by Jutta Burgraaf and ‘Gender Ideology’ by Oscar Alzamora Revoredo. These two articles appeared for the first in the Lexicon (http://www.amazon.it/Lexicon-Termini-discussi-famiglia-questioni/dp/8810241096/ref=sr_1_25?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1424447744&sr=1-25&keywords=Etica).

        You find via Google Books: Gender, Politics and the Catholic Church by Rebeka Jadranka Anic, in Gender and Theology

        Also read these (they are free pdf that you found on the web):

        1) After Gender the Destruction of Man – The
        Vatican
        ‘s Nightmare Vision of the ‘Gender Agenda

        for Law, by Mary

        2)Fighting Over the Figure of Gender, by Ali Millier

        3)Who needs (sex) when you can have (gender), by Baden, S. & Goetz, A.

        4)(Dis)locating Gender: Ontological Crises and Political Strategies, by Barbara L. Marshall

  • Reality.Bites

    Then start wearing fucking pants.

  • Jim Boyd

    tax the church

  • robirob

    We all come to this earth with a checklist of challenges to master. I guess for some one of these challenges is to change their gender.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    He’s a man of disparate personalities. One day he’s enlightened and progressive, the next he’s dumb and conservative and Breitbart-worthy. He’s Pope Sybil.

    • LookielouE1707

      He’s going Pat Robertson on us.

  • SFHarry

    Is it “written in nature” that we were put here to point fingers at everyone else who is different and try to make their lives a living hell?

  • Fuck you, Frank. How dare you act like a moral authority while presiding over an organization that continues to shield rapists from prosecution. And fuck anyone who still support an organization, religious or otherwise, that does the same. Fuck you all. The bar for human decency is embarrassingly low and the RCC can’t even clear that? How dare you.

  • IamM

    Well that’s not at all insensitive, judgemental, of hyperbolic.
    /snark

  • Barry William Teske

    The Pope can and does issue statements just as destructive as nuclear weapons.

  • Justin

    What a medieval view of gender.

    • Tor

      And that’s modern for them.

  • JOSH447

    Our great hope Pope did a complete180 and ditched his moral compass regarding the support of sexual orientation and gay marriage, most likely due to clergy pressure and death threats. Too bad. He’s a sweet guy. It just got too hot for him in the kitchen. However, we could use a dead martyr Pope style right now.

  • Bill_Perdue

    He’s vermin. He should be arrested. We should break diplomatic ties with these baby rapers and we should tax them until they fall and can’t get up.

    • Silver_Witch

      Oh man I just had to upvote this one. Very very true. Tax all churches since they are really just corporations.

  • Sadly, comments are closed at that article, so you get the benefit of my first reactions:

    1. — “order of creation” — perhaps His Holiness should take a good look at creation before he starts dictating what it is.

    2. — “entrusted them with the earth” — yeah, and they’re doing a real good job on that score, aren’t they?

    3. — “The design of the Creator is written in nature.” See point 1.

  • delk

    When you get done with the back, get busy on the front. Let Us Prey.

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    Fran flips a coin every morning. Heads, good cop today. Tails, bad cop today.

  • TreGibbs

    I suppose this means surgeries that separate conjoined twins are a “sin” as well…

    Why is it that these religious assholes feel that they are the authority on topics they know nothing about? He should stick to subjects he’s well versed in, like manipulation, child rape and fairy tales.

    • Câl

      Surely any surgery or even medicines to cure diseases is “manipulating life” and going against the “order of creation”? Won’t someone think of the microbes! All catholics should just stop using doctors and hospitals and leave the rest of us alone.

      • clay

        The RCC tells its hospitals to take ability to pay into their ethical considerations– they were okay with Arizona’s (GOP) death panels.

      • TreGibbs

        Right? Remember when that babbling buffoon Michele Bachmann said on the senate floor that “carbon dioxide is GOOD for us because it exists in nature” ? I wanted to inform her about all of the things in nature that try to kill us – like fire, cancer, asteroids, plagues, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc. These people are seriously mentally ill.

  • Pope Francis is sadly misinformed and totally wrong on the issue, both scientifically and theologically. The Vatican needs an adviser other than noted transphobe Paul McHugh.

  • Bergoglio, Woman Hater

    To be honest, it sounds like Bergoglio’s harangue doesn’t even touch on transgenderism; rather, it is an attack on WOMEN. ‘Gender theory’, as misunderstood by Bergoglio et al, is a threat to women accepting subservient roles to men. According to Bergoglio, women seeking legal equality with men, seeking equal access to education and employment is a threat to the ‘natural order’ as conceived by the all-male Catholic hierarchy. Bergoglio also condemns as sinners infertile couples who use artificial means to conceive, as well as parents and physicians who interrupt the gestation of a horribly deformed fetus, even if carrying that fetus to term would pose a threat to the woman’s life.

    Again: Bergoglio’s opposition to ‘gender theory’ isn’t JUST an attack on transgendered persons, intersex persons, or same-sex attracted persons, it is an attack on WOMEN. He really hasn’t even yet begun to explain all the ways that he and the other men who run the Catholic church believe that gay men, lesbian women, and transgendered and transsexual men and women pose threats to society.

    Bergoglio and the ultra-hard-core Catholics are fundamentally bigots and homophobes, which means that we as LGBT individuals owe a debt of gratitude to the millions of Catholics who oppose and ignore the hateful harangues of the church hierarchy, and who support Equality.

    Sit down, Bergoglio, you have nothing of interest to say.

  • MAP

    I’ve said this the day Francis was elected as Pope…he can’t be trusted

  • Will

    Joe, did you forget to add your usual “crackpots” and “batshittery” tags?

    • Guest

      .

  • RomanHans

    “The design of the creator is written in nature.” Uh, I have to breathe every six seconds for my entire life, whereas I could have been solar-powered. I have two little strips of hair on my face that serve as eye protection. I’ve seen pigeons and palm trees. Dude gets a D+.

  • MythicalBeast

    What a truly SICK metaphor to invoke. I’m disgusted with the way that the mainstream press is still pretending that this pope is Mr. Nice Guy in comparison to Ratzinger-in-the-shadows. Stories like this and the recent anti-gay confab just aren’t being reported upon, while stories of his fake friendly-to-LGBT gestures get front page attention. I call sham.

    • Gerry Fisher

      IMO, we should stop focusing on whether they elect a “nicer Pope” and pay closer attention to whether they become a “nicer organization.”

  • MAP

    Would love to see a HUGE protest when he visits Philadelphia in June..hundreds of transgender people, lgbt groups, rainbow flags
    pro choice and support groups of people who were raped and abused by Catholic Priests

  • Xuuths

    Wow, who would have guessed that the pontiff was ignorant about biology, and all the creatures that change gender? Like clownfish (“Finding Nemo”)

  • Wilberforce

    Where’s the reference to transgender people? But anyway, it’s very sad to see this dingbat backtracking like he’s been doing. We had such hope for him. On the other hand, it’s good that he’s still using the order of creation argument. It’s totally weak, as others here have pointed out. And it’s only a matter of time before one of our leaders puts down the mirror and the dumbbells and calls the RC on it.

  • Good thing he’s so progressive and welcoming…

    • Bruno

      I know right? You know, embraces science and the reality around him.

  • A man of “god”, who claims his church is one of love and compassion. Wow, if that is his version of love, I shudder to think what his hate would look like.

    • KarenAtFOH

      Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

  • JJS_prime

    He seemed to be such an improvement. But he is just as much of a red-caped loon as any of the rest. Maybe worse.

  • MBear

    fuck the pope’s mother

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Clear the crust away first.

      • MBear

        okay…ew

  • Gerry Fisher

    “Forget reality. I like my theories better.”

  • Desmond Rutherford

    “A new sin?” Haven’t they got enough of those myths?

    • grada3784

      Even the Bible says there’s nothing new under the sun.

  • jomicur

    If it’s a sin against “God the Creator,” then shut the fuck up and wait for him to punish it. Of course,he hasn’t gotten around to punishing any of the other sins against him, such as taking his name in vain, but I guess we’ll all just have to hold our breath and wait, eh, Frankie?

    • grada3784

      The problem is God can’t be trusted to deal out punishment. He’s up there doing whatever Gods do.

      That’s why he has the Christians.

  • OrliJoe in Fla

    Aw, heck. Let’s just get on with it and name him Advocate’s person of the decade!

  • Toasterlad

    Boy, Pope Smiles sure is seeming less and less like the Great Reformer that the gay Catholics were all jizzing themselves over, ain’t he?

  • anne marie in philly

    I’d like to destroy YOU and your fucking church with a nuclear weapon for raping children!

  • Lumpy Gaga
  • StraightGrandmother

    I notice Joe did not hat tip anybody on this story.
    I bet he got 100 e-mails from flying monkeys alerting him to this story, so nobody gets the hat tip, LOLZ!

  • StraightGrandmother

    I tweeted the hell out of this story yesterday to several Catholic Twitter accounts. I will be interested today to see if the Catholics write about this, they have been alerted.

  • TheManicMechanic

    Apologists be like “lalalalalala” while tossing money in the plate.

  • Sean

    Nope. My body my rules.

    P.S. Transgender creation occurs in several species on this planet.

  • Nick

    THIS is the real Pope. Not that phony lying P.R. stunt that was Advocated last year. NO NO NO

  • billbear1961

    Well, what an evil old bastard you are.

    Tell me, what does a Church that rapes kids and then does all it can to avoid paying for its crimes do to “creation”?

    Prepare for an earful when you arrive on these shores, “Holy” FREAK.

  • Bruno

    Hubby and I are looking to leave the corporate theocracy known as the US of A. We’re done. We’re lucky to have options elsewhere and we are going to take advantage of them.

    Gay marriage will be the law of the land very soon in this US but what is more troubling is the remaining jesus/gawd line that runs through all of politics here. It’s a far bigger problem than anyone realizes.

    What about protections for the LGBT community? Gay marriage is just the beginning. There are still no protections for the LGBT community in several states overall. Religion will be forever in our way. religion. religion. religion.

    I’ve lived abroad for a number of years and much to my surprise, I’ve come to learn that the US is indeed a very, very peculiar country. In many ways, we are a bunch of overweight isolationists with no sense of the global environment around us.

    We are not a democracy at all, far from it.

    Religion plays a key role in our politics and yet, there is not enough push back on this. Churches should be taxed in the US given the political influence they have. Yet, no one cares enough to point it out. No one gives a shit. xtiainity is the most poisonous religion we’ve ever seen in the history of humanity, above that of islam. When will it stop? When will the American people wake up and rid themselves of such religious hypocrisy.

    Where is the voting block that says no to religion and yes to rational thinking? It doesn’t exist in any great number in the US. We should all be ashamed that religion has played so much a part in our politics. It’s despicable.

    And don’t even get me fucking started on being overweight — I’m one of the overweight Americans so refrain from coming after me on the point of being overweight. Luckily, I’m far from isolationist too.

    When I live abroad the weight melts off but when I’m in the states, I gain it right back. It’s absolutely fucking bizarre. And I’m not the only one who has experienced this. Our american way of life and what we eat is just fuckin’ bizarre. Sugar in everything.

    I never thought I would see the day when the US would have gay marriage. It was unthinkable to me but once we have that, there is still more work to do. It’s time to become more secular, I’m just doubtful that will happen in my lifetime.

  • TreGibbs

    Actually, he is describing religious people to a tee….

  • Ginger Snap

    Ya know what pope, you can eat my shit! I don’t give one fuck what you say because it has no basis in modern reality.

  • Jim in MN

    There is so much wrong with this but the Catholic Church has never been an ally of logic. What I would say to Pope Francis is that people are born Intersex every day. They exist in our world as we speak and saying they do not or ignoring that they do is a lie. Doctors perform operations to “correct” these types of things DAILY and it is not God who chooses the sex that the newborn infant will be, it is the doctor. And if Intersex people exist then so do people who have been born to feel that they are not the sex that humanity sees them as. That is something they should be able to choose under a very tenant of the Catholic faith – it’s belief that God has given people the free will to choose their destiny. The idea that the Catholic Church would choose to undermine a persons free will, especially in cases that simply do NOT involve other people shines a bright light on the hypocrisy and, quite frankly, bigotry that plagues the Catholic Church in ALL areas of its existence. But saying this is futile because these very types of discussion just are not happening at ALL and when you don’t discuss issues openly your are condemning yourself to a very dark world, indeed.

    • BostonDotTom

      The term hermaphrodite refers to an animal with functioning reproductive organs from both standard sexes, and does not occur in humans. The correct term your looking for is intersex.

      • Jim in MN

        Thanks for this, BostonDotTom. A great reminder that open discussion helps us grow and be more understanding and compassionate. I will not repeat this mistake. 🙂

  • Homo Erectus

    Man with a dead Jew on a stick said what?

  • JCF

    GOD created the gender spectrum, and it is FRANCIS who is not “recogniz[ing] the order of creation”! >:-/

  • Remember that wonderfully sweet and showy (but oh-so-vague in its conclusion) media blast just a few weeks ago where he lovingly and graciously met with the persecuted Spanish trans man? It turns out Pope Francis actually might think Diego Neria Lejárraga is the “Devil’s Daughter” after all.

    “Let’s think of the nuclear arms, of the possibility to annihilate in a few instants a very high number of human beings,”

    This in an interview segment regarding people who do not fit into an assumed pure sex & gender binary. Given the extreme hyperbole he is lobbing regarding a fraction of a percent of humanity, it almost sounds like he’s justifying simply getting rid of any trans people a faithful follower might encounter. As a matter of self defense, of course. Acting on behalf of all of God’s Creation. There really is no choice but to act, given his wording. This is so close to a thinly veiled call for genocide on transgender, intersex and perhaps gay people that I fear some of the “Faithful” will see it as such in a very literal sense.

    And it meshes well with the call of the other current Pope (Benedict XVI / Ratzinger / Palpatine) in 2008 to protect humanity from anyone sex or gender atypical:

    “…the Church cannot and must not limit herself to passing on to the faithful the message of salvation alone. She has a responsibility towards creation, and must also publicly assert this responsibility. In so doing, she must not only defend earth, water and air as gifts of creation belonging to all. She must also protect man from self-destruction. What is needed is something like a human ecology, correctly understood. If the Church speaks of the nature of the human being as man and woman, and demands that this order of creation be respected, this is not some antiquated metaphysics. What is involved here is faith in the Creator and a readiness to listen to the language of creation. To disregard this would be the self-destruction of man himself, and hence the destruction of God’s own work.

    What is often expressed and understood by the term gender ultimately ends up being man’s attempt at self-emancipation from creation and the Creator. Man wants to be his own master, and alone always and exclusively to determine everything that concerns him. Yet in this way he lives in opposition to the truth, in opposition to the Creator Spirit. Rain forests deserve indeed to be protected, but no less so does man, as a creature having an innate message which does not contradict our freedom, but is instead its very premise.”

    (from his speech to the Curia as part of the annual Xmas breakfast 2008)

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Stents: the nuclear option against God’s plan for your cholesterol.

  • EscherEnigma

    Is it just me, or has Pope Francis taken a turn to the right since that family council thing last fall?

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme
  • grada3784

    Next thing we know, we’ll find out wearing glasses destroys God’s creation too. And that the Christians are re-installing all the prohibitions from Deuteronomy.

    Personally, I think predatory priests do a lot more damage to God’s creation than any transgender person might.

  • 2karmanot

    Give it a rest Pope Church Queen. What is more perverted than celibacy?