On Chick-Fil-A & Straight Allies

From Steven Petrow’s advice column Civilities in the Washington Post:

Dear Civilities: I was wondering whether you could help my husband and me resolve a marital dispute. We are a liberal Virginia couple in our 30s with a wonderful circle of friends, both gay and straight. The issue is that my husband loves a certain purveyor of chicken sandwiches and waffle fries that has an anti-gay stance. Watching my gay friends have to travel to different states to be legally married, struggle through finding “friendly” judges to approve their adoptions, and generally not have the same marital rights as I have for the past 15 years is enough to make me never step foot into one of the franchises again. My husband, however, loves this place — not for its values, but for the food. Is there any way he can enjoy this particular establishment without feeling guilty? For example, what if he donated an amount equal to what he spends there to a gay rights organization such as the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) every time he patronized this place? Would that be an appropriate offset? — Anonymous

Give us your answer and hit the link to see how Petrow responded.

  • Queequeg

    Get the southern style chicken sandwich from McDonalds. I’ve never had, nor will i ever have a Chick-fil-a, but I think the McDonalds is similar from the descriptions I’ve seen.

  • David Milley

    Heh. Try this (YMMV): http://youtu.be/eNq8r4S5jSk

    • Cuberly

      Ha, ya beat me to it. ; )

      Hilah’s channel is definitely worth subscribing to.

      • agcons

        That was the video, when it was posted on Towleroad, that caused me to subscribe.

    • TJay229

      I’ve been doing this for years.

    • This is perhaps one of the best answers – he can get the taste without the stink of bigotry!

    • DN

      Crap, I really should read the comments before repeating someone’s post 🙂

      • David Milley

        Hey, it’s a pretty picture, and I’ve got no problem promoting the idea.

    • Dan

      I love Hilah.

    • agcons

      It makes a delicious sandwich. I cannot compare to Chik-Fil-A because they don’t operate in Godless Communist Canada, but who cares?

  • bkmn

    Avoid the fast food and live longer and better. Crap-fil-A is not that good.

    • Brian in Valdosta

      My thoughts exactly. If his obsession with fatty, unhealthy fast food is that strong, then perhaps he has other issues to deal with.

      • IamM

        Plus as fast food chik’n goes, Chik-fil-a is nothing special. McDonalds’ and Dunkin Donuts’ are just as good and if you really want that deep fried flavor go someplace like Zaxby’s. It’s not like literally every major fast food chain doesn’t sell chicken strips and or chicken sandwiches.

        • RFW

          Maybe Anonymous should buy her(?) husband;’s greasy shit from Chick-fil-a for a couple of weeks, save the bags and wrappers, and then use them to present hubby with chicken sandwiches from another fast food place.

    • Mark

      I stole your crap fil a – – thank you for that – love it!

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        Omygod, you didn’t eat it,did you?

        • Mark

          Nope -I”ve never even seen a crap fil a shop in my life. The joys of living in a very rural area.

          • Leo Tallant

            I have never seen a chick-a-fill either, never knew before all of this that such a place existed. I count myself blessed to never have seen one as the so called food just sounds nasty!

          • IamM

            Don’t worry. If you’ve ever eaten at McDonald’s you’ve had better.

          • delk

            Mark, I walk by one everyday. I hold up my hand and point to my wedding ring as I walk by. Bonus: it’s on a corner so I keep my hand up all the way around.

          • Please tell me you wear that ring on your middle finger.

          • delk

            I point with my middle finger!

      • sherman

        And if you’re tweeting – #H8Chikn

        • Mark

          Never have tweeted – I’ve not been able to figure out how that all works and how to read them in order. Guess my age is showing – I still have a manual typewriter….

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      as I have said before I will say again:
      A pounded flat, breaded and then fried chicken “breast”
      is then placed between two pieces of white bread with a couple of pickles. no sauce and nothing else.
      as dry as a mummy’s vagina and tastes about as good…….

  • Todd20036

    Sigh. If I donate to the German Nazi party, am I ok as long as I donate to the local synagogue?
    Sorry, but the other side really does want us as second class citizens, or in camps, or dead.
    Chicken fingers and waffle fries are not THAT hard to make. There are plenty of places that serve chicken nuggets and waffle fries that don’t actively discriminate against a minority.
    If Chick fil A discriminated against blacks, Jews, women, or any other minority, would we even be having this discussion?

    • fuow

      If Chick fil A discriminated against blacks, Jews, women, or any other minority, would we even be having this discussion?

      No.

      • TheManicMechanic

        Some people would still make public appearances while holding bags and drink cups from Hate-fil-a, dontchaknow.

        • Lawerence Collins

          The Atlanta pseudo housewives. Claudia, Twirl and Cynthia are shown going there in a recent episode. I hope they got hell from Derek and crew for it.

  • VodkaAndPolitics

    No, there can be no offset because it does no financial harm to Chic-fil-a. Dan Cathey will be completely unaware that there are consequences for his anti-equality views. If you eat at Chic-Fil-A, even if you make a donation, you’re basically no different than Mike Huckabee when he says “I have gay friends, I just disagree with them like I do with regard to swearing and drinking.” If your husband likes chicken sandwiches, go to Wendy’s, they’re just as good.

    • David Walker

      Also, the like-amount contribution doesn’t mean shit if CfA doesn’t know about it. For that matter, neither does a personal boycott…if you don’t buy there and you don’t tell them why, then you’re just someone who doesn’t respond to their stupid ads. My advice to both of these 30-somethings is to watch “Pride” and discover what it takes to make a point AND to be an ally.

      • Silver_Witch

        Ohhh I had a deliciously evil thought! Make the donation BIG and in chic-flia owners name.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Er, Wendy’s founder Dave whatshisname was no liberal saint. It was probably the specter of gay rights on the horizon that gave him his fatal heart attack.

    • IamM

      I’m still boycotting Wendy’s. I don’t recall exactly what it was Dave said in the 80’s, but I don’t feel like forgiving yet. 😉

      • VodkaAndPolitics

        I didn’t know there was a problem with Wendy’s too. Maybe we should all agree not to eat junk food, and be done with all of it!

        • IamM

          Probably.
          But, like I said it was the 80s, and I believe the company walked Dave’s anti equality statement back not too long after he said it. There’s probably no need to punish them, but I like to make the point that sometimes damage is permanent.

  • NMNative

    We know gay folks who eat at sick fil a, no accounting for taste or activism.

    • Mike__in_Houston

      One of the gay guys where I work is a regular patron of Chick-fll-H8 (and looks like it too). I think a lot of these folks just don’t follow politics and so aren’t aware of the company’s (or any company’s) political stance.

      • Bruno

        It happens time and again that one will willfully blind themselves to facts in order to satisfy some craving or desire. Any LGBT person or LGBT ally who knowingly justifies eating at CFA is being blind at best, at worst putting their own wants ahead of the lives of others. It’s shameful, though not uncommon.

  • shellback

    If you really love your husband, let him know that their “chicken” is actually made from pigeon and rat meat.

    • RFW

      The place I worked was right next to a KFC store. We referred to their product “fried rat”.

  • Blake Jordan

    No protections for LGBT employees means CFA is still a shit place for LGBTs and allies to get food (?) from, so ruin your health elsewhere.

  • TommyTune

    Eat at Popeye’s instead. Yeah, I know, it’s bad for you but so good to you, and they’re not run by bigots. You can still give to your favorite gay charity, however.

    • Mark

      CFA can’t come close to Popeye’s – with or without the damned waffle fries. Besides, it’s been rumored for years and years that Popeye might have been gay!

      • I’ve seen photos of Popeye and Bluto doing the deed. No “rumor” to it… ;^)

        • Bob Conti

          Yeah, but the homemade video of that Popeye, Bluto and Wimpy 3-way scarred me for life.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            There actually used to be a burger place called Wimpy’s. I only ever saw one, so I don’t know if it was a chain.

          • stuckinthewoods

            I certainly remember Wimpy burgers in England, didn’t know they’d come to US.

    • TJay229

      CHURCH’S honey, CHURCH’S! LOL

      • Bob Conti

        Church’s is awesome.

        • TJay229

          That, my friend is the Truth… You ever get it right after they have changed the oil… OH MY GAWD!

    • John30013

      Mmm. Popeye’s has perhaps the best tasting biscuits in the fast food business (although Bojangles gives them a run for their money). And their red beans and rice is awesome too (as is their chicken).

    • Mike__in_Houston

      Popeye’s and Church’s are both wonderful. I would hate to have to choose between them. Even if I didn’t know the first thing about Chick-fil-H8, there would be no reason for me even to give them a try.

      The one advantage Church’s has over Popeye’s is that at least some Church’s franchises still have gizzards. Growing up poor, I saw gizzards on our table quite frequently, and I still love them.

      I consider Chick-fil-H8 in the same boat as Exxon. Even though they both have nominally backed down on their anti-gay, it wasn’t their idea in either case. I’ll never patronize either of them. And I try to keep my tank at least a quarter full at all times so I hope never to have an “Exxon emergency” (I hope these aren’t “famous last words”).

      Actually, I’m slowly backing off on fried chicken (or fried anything) anyway, just for health reasons…

  • GarySFBCN

    Chick-fil-a reduced their donations to anti-LGBT groups by 92%. Of course, they reduced all of their donations, but I believe it is, in part, due to the outcry by us and those who support us.

    Let the husband eat his chicken and donate dollar spent in CFA for dollar to LGBT causes.

    • The Milkman

      No, they just changed where the donations were coming from… from corporate money to the owner-family’s personal funds. Either way, CFA customers are still financing anti-gay (and anti-a lot of other stuff) bigotry.

    • Soren456

      Profit goes into Dan Cathy’s pocket, out of which he will donate to his favorite causes.

      Why should I help him make a profit that he will use against me?

    • Not enough

  • Going to repeat the last sentence of Todd20036’s comment because it really cuts to the heart of the matter:

    “If Chick-fil-A discriminated against blacks, Jews, women, or any other minority, would we even be having this discussion?”

  • Trevor Brown

    ONLY go to Chik-fil-A when you have a coupon for a free sandwich OR if someone else is paying.

    • zhera

      No! No paying. Steal the food, or go elsewhere.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        “Dine” and dash, screaming “Feed the poor!” as you run out the door.

    • Dicky

      The stores (There are two now! orz) in my area put out a coupon for a free sandwich every couple months.
      The one closer to me always sends out a cow suit and a suit in the early afternoon to the sidewalk wave at traffic.

      I always wonder if they’re having trouble and are just trying to get mouths in the door with those coupons, but then they always seem to be doing brisk business at meal times.

      • RFW

        Most people do not go to this or that fast food place because the food is good. They go because it’s the closest place to get a quick meal.

  • Mark

    I read somewhere that someone was saying if you’re so concerned about equal rights and boycotting Crap-fil-A then why not boycott Saudi oil? that was perhaps one of the most ignorant comparisons I had ever heard — and this one, stop eating crap and live longer.

    • Mark

      Now wait a minute. I am living proof that fried chicken does not cause cancer in laboratory animals….as long as you don’t fry it up in Saudi oil. Nasty aftertaste……

      • MBear

        what about frying saudis in chicken oil?

  • Sam_Handwich

    You can make chicken sandwiches and fries at home …they’ll be better tasting and better for you.

    Anyway, I’ve never eaten at CFA. But i can’t imagine i’m missing much.

    • That Other Jean

      But you’d be wrong about that. Damn, they’re delicious! Their strawberry milkshakes are, too. Or at least they were before I started boycotting CfA for their donations to anti-gay organizations. I don’t eat their food, but I can’t say that I don’t miss it.

    • TheManicMechanic

      I ate there a long time ago, before the whole anti-gay flap ever came to light. I found it nothing to write home about, the only thing unique among other fast food joints being the waffle fries. The prominent “closed on Sunday” signage always reeked of religious boasting rather than giving employees a break of any kind. After the flap ensued, all I needed to do was tell other people to stay away.

    • RFW

      Cook your chicken by boning it, pounding it flat, flouring it, then cooking it on a hot griddle while weighted down with something flat and heavy – the bottom of a cast iron skillet will do.

      It cooks in a very short time.

      It’s an Italian mthod, but I’m too lazy to get up and go check if it’s a Tuscan method or a Roman method.

      • RFW

        I looked it up. Page 73 in “Italian Cooking for Pleasure” by Mary Reynolds (Hamlyn, 1965). It’s Tuscan chicken, and the recipe is a little more complex than I indicated above.

        Use a heavy frying pan, not a griddle, add just enough olive oil to cover the bottom, and add two peeled garlic cloves before you add the chicken.

        The chicken pieces needn’t be boned if you don’t want to, but they must be flattened. Before cooking, each piece should be sprinkled with salt “lberally” and lightly with pepper three sage leaves placed on top, and a little olive oil drizzled on top to moisten.

        Made without the complications, it’s still a very fast way to cook chicken.

  • $139453134

    If you can’t even give up a shitty fast food chain in support for your supposed LGBT friends, then where the fuck do you get off calling yourself an ally?

    • Gianpiero

      Exactly. As sacrifices go, giving up your chicken sandwich is (perhaps literally) the least one could do.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      the couple is 30 years old…..and straight and most probably caucasian AND from the USA.

      That generation doesnt understand “giving up” any modern convenience or indulgence.

      I hate to sound like a geezer, but guess what I am a geezer

      • Todd20036

        Geezers are sexy, though.

        • David Walker

          Thank you. “Just because there’s snow on the roof doesn’t mean there’s not a fire in the furnace.”

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          this geezer is still gettin sum so I must be sexy. hehehe

          • Lumpy Gaga

            gettin sum? gettin sum what? What does this mean?

            /guest

      • DaveW

        So true, so sad. And think about what you’re giving up, a heart attack?

        Our society has failed this young couple. We don’t use Crisco anymore, why are t people not ashamed to eat this crap?

        We have shamed away smoking… Only the really dumb still do that. Why not junk food?

  • TJay229

    I was born and raised in Atlanta Georgia.
    I can’t tell you how much i loved a “Ice Dream” & “Waffle Fry” Polynesian sauce. But after finding out about his contributions, They haven’t got a dime of my money, and it’s so hard to not go into one when I go home… But i can’t bring myself to forget and forgive him/them.

    • zhera

      Is the food there really that great? Sounds bizarre to me.

      The husband should be helped to find other delicious food, and maybe donate to gay rights organizations anyway.

      • John30013

        Everyone’s tastes vary, but Chic-fil-A’s chicken sandwiches (and other fried chicken products) do taste different (and many think better) than other fast food places’ fried chicken. The breading is slightly sweet. Yes, there’s only the pickle and no sauce of any kind on the sandwich, but that’s what mayonnaise packets are for :-).

        I never cared for their waffle fries particularly, but their chicken fingers and Polynesian sauce is very good. And their chicken biscuits are as well.

        We used to be regular customers at our local Chic-fil-A, stopping in every Saturday morning for breakfast on the way to our antique store. Everyone in the store knew we were a couple, and they couldn’t have been nicer or more sincerely pleasant and welcoming to us. Nevertheless, since the Cathey family’s political donations became public knowledge, we have not eaten there.

        (We both have since lost a good bit of weight. My husband became diabetic 2 years ago, and I weighed more than I wanted to. I’m not saying cutting out Chick-fil-A made all the difference–we made many other lifestyle changes–but it was a contributing factor.)

        • cjs

          Confession: The only time I’ve eaten recently, on the rare occasions I’ve eaten, CFA, were two times where both 1. someone else was paying for it and 2. the food was at family funerals of people I loved and, to be frank, I was stress eating without thinking about it. I have a tendency to do that when upset or depressed and it’s mindless. (I felt really physically sick later. And guilty. Rough days. Everybody can yell at me if they want to. At least it wasn’t my money.)

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Yes, apparently CFA does catering. (I had to listen to a cow-orker and her 16yos desire for a CFA-“catered” birthday party. 8, I could see, but 16??)

            I think Miss Manners would say that

            1) It’s a funeral, it’s not about YOU!

            2) Don’t make a spectacle of yourself by OBVIOUSLY not eating (unless it will kill you right then and there from allergies).

            Other than that, carry out #2 however you see fit.

            3) The money is spent. You can’t unring that bell.

          • John30013

            It wasn’t your money, and while we might wish that no one would patronize them, in reality that’s just not the case. If you’re in that situation and someone else had already bought the food (i.e., you have no control over the matter) then I would say eat up. You have nothing to feel guilty about.

      • sherman

        I tried them at two different times while traveling. Even before I knew about their bigotry, I had no desire to give them a third try.

        • IamM

          Their chicken always tasted too salty to me. They opened a store in the mall when I was a kid, I remember they had bible verses printed on the drink cups. Creepy.

      • TominDC

        They’re reasonably good for fast food, but
        nothing remarkable.

        I suspect a lot of it is in the eater’s head. People like what they’re used to, especially if it’s a carry-over from their childhood.

      • cjs

        I say this also as someone who grew up in Georgia: If you grow up in the South, you’re likely to have been raised on CFA’s food. It’s a taste one has since your parents gave you your first chicken nuggets. However, as an adult, one has a choice and one’s tastes can evolve…

      • TJay229

        That chicken sandwich is good.
        But they have two full service restaurants just outside the city limits.

        The Dwarf House (which is where they started)
        And Truitts

        It is great REAL southern cooking.

        • cjs

          I can think of better places for Southern cooking in Atlanta: Busy Bee, Mary Mac’s …

          • TJay229

            Haven’t been to Busy Bees in decades.

            Now had you said Hodges, or 285 West id agree, but Mary Macs… That shit is HORRIBLE. That is for tourists who think it’s good. REAL Atlantains don’t eat there (at least, ones I know).

  • Shayne Fraser

    If something makes you feel guilty, stop doing it. Some things, like driving, might make you feel guilty about carbon footprint, you can “offset” it by driving a more economical car, or take other steps to minimize it. Eating at a particular restaurant out of hundreds, seems to have an easy solution.

  • Myth

    Just make your own with this Chick Fil Gay recipe!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNq8r4S5jSk

    • Bared Bear

      yoink! i’ve actually seen this recipe before… i love me some hilah. she’s just good folk.

  • joe ho
    • Sam_Handwich

      yup, and i wouldn’t bother with all that oil. just shallow-fry in a skillet with oil halfway up chicken. then flip over to finish cooking

    • Too much salt!

      • Sam_Handwich

        that’s why making your own is preferable…you can regulate the salt content

  • I should really know better

    Had the owner of Chick-Fil-A donated money to stop interracial marriage, stop integrated buses or bring back “whites only” water fountains, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. He likes his gays… you know, we’re very nice and give great decorating tips… but he likes his chicken sandwiches better.

    • On the other hand, it is Virginia… They might be willing to buy from a place that supported all that.

      • Northern VA is more liberal than half of New England. Cheap shot.

        • I live in AR. The schools are segregated, not by law but by reality. The churches and places of business, likewise. I’ve been through Virginia. I also see what laws they pass. Parts are very liberal, but they are quite outnumbered.

  • John Ruff

    First off, I’d say she needs to find a man with better taste. “But, I love my white trash husband.”

  • Fred

    Here’s a way to think about it…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-3SnJ2ACQ

  • chris james

    Eat their chicken and gobble down massive quantities of sodium and worse…MSG. The food is not healthy and neither is their social standing.

  • Badkey

    Unhealthy food is unhealthy. Enough for me to say no thanks.

  • amboy00

    I’m so sick of these pro-fast-food people shoving their unhealthy eating habits down our throats.

  • PopChips

    They should eat there and not feel guilty. Don’t be like the religious whackos who boycott everything. But, I would ask her husband why he likes that nasty food. How is a fried chicken patty with a nasty pickle slapped onto a soggy bun tasty? He might need some food therapy.

  • Makes me want to glitter bomb a few Chick Fil A’s bathrooms…..

  • Bared Bear

    tell your shithead husband to go eat there wearing a nazi pink triangle badge in concentration camp rags to assuage his “guilt.”

  • DN

    I love the taste of their food, too. The good news is that it’s really, really easy to make it yourself. The only real twist to their sandwich is marinating the chicken in pickle brine. Here’s the recipe we use:

    http://hilahcooking.com/chick-fil-a-copycat/

  • Silver Badger

    Eat where you want. This marketing move made Chick fill-a a lot of money from all the free press. Just don’t patronize ANY fast food restuarant often enough to make a difference. Most of them are BAD for you.

  • Happy_Housewife

    We’re not blessed with this chain in the Pacific NW (although I am sure it will finally reach our little corner of the world). Is it really all that?

    • sherman

      I tried it twice many years ago. I didn’t care for it and had no desire to return even before I learned they were bigots.

    • Leo Tallant

      I had never heard of them until this whole thing started. We don’t have them where I live.

  • Ninja0980

    Sorry, if you go to a business that you know is discriminating against the LGBT, you are no ally.

  • BobSF_94117

    The husband is not likely to give up his fast-food indulgences, so I say go with the $1 to CFA, $1 to gay rights compromise. The reality is that only a small percentage of the dollar that goes to CFA ends up in the hands of the family to be given to anti-gay organizations. It’s probably a 100-5 ratio. If this caught on, the gay-rights groups would be swimming in money.

    • sherman

      I like Bared Bear’s suggestion below to wear a nazi pink triangle badge if you go there.

    • $4 to CFA, $350 to get gays out of Uganda

  • Troy Wing

    I like the answer that was given, to find out more about the local franchise. The Boy Scouts change started when local groups just stopped following the corporate culture. It no doubt is the same for some Chick-Fil-A.

  • That Guy

    I’ve read several Facebook discussions where a straight person asks “Is it ok to eat at Chick-Fil-A now?” and some gay people (who I don’t know) somehow justified going there. One guy even claimed he thinks of it as supporting their gay employees, which doesn’t make a lick of sense.

    Some people can’t be bothered to support political/activist clauses. You can point to all the examples where legislation has affected them directly through raised taxes, cut funding, and killed non-discrimination initiatives and these idiots will shrug their shoulders and say “Both parties are the same”. I mean, who needs to investigate individual candidates and find one that mostly lines up with what you believe when you can brand them all liars and cheats?

    • uhhuhh

      The help-their-gay-employees rationalization is what everyone who doesn’t want to honor a boycott claims.

  • Patrick

    I boycott them but I’ll admit that i love both the chicken and waffle fries. So. Frickin. Good. Seriously didn’t the chain get a little better with their anti gay stance? I recall some baby steps in that direction but not nearly enough to make me buy their food.

    • John30013

      They claimed (and I believe followed through) that the corporation’s charitable arm (the Winship Foundation) would no longer donate to anti-LGBT organizations and causes. However, the Cathey family (the owners of Chic-fil-A) still make such donations. So it’s probably true that less money flowing into Chic-fil-A is now going to anti-LGBT causes, but some still is.

  • Anon

    Oh the first world problems of sytemically privileged people…

    Yes, it means you are not an ally. Stop fucking whining.

  • Todd20036

    Some of the WaPo comments… Sheesh! Basically they side with Chick Fil Hate.

  • Taurin

    I actually had this exact discussion with a friend several years ago. Before CFA’s anti-gay activities were as well known as they are now. She loved their food and knew about their anti-gay donations and said she’d donate to pro-gay groups to offset it. My response “how about just not eating there?”

    I agree with the response to the question at the link. I think it’s well stated.

  • lymis

    Here is a deliberate overstatement that might get your husband’s attention:

    If, when the two of you walked into a restaurant, one of their employees hauled off and slapped you every time, would he feel that donating the equivalent of the cost of a sandwich to a women’s shelter made everything okay?

    What if you walked into the restaurant with one of your wonderful circle of friends and the employees left you alone but assaulted your friend? Does the value of a sandwich outweigh that harm?

    Companies that donate to anti-gay causes – or whose owners do so while actively working against the civil equality of your gay friends are assaulting them. Just because they do it at a remove and out of your sight doesn’t change that.

    You can ask for pickles on your chicken sandwich at another restaurant, or make the equivalent at home. Or you can look your friends in the eye and tell them that waffle fries are more important to you than their lives.

    • cjs

      It’s not like supermarkets don’t carry waffle fries these days, and it’s not like home deep fryers are scarce/expensive.

    • i agree but the prob isnt her, it’s her husband. i commented elsewhere on this thread with a fuckin hefty donation size like $500 a month getting humans away from murderers in russia and africa and $300mont h to support a kid at al forni’s. izzat letter even for real – the food is so good? cost of a burger to charity?no. just no. You wanna actually do some something, please actually do something

  • cjs

    I don’t yell at straight friends anymore about it.

    I just give side-eye and become passive aggressive.

    No amount of yelling at 75% of straight allies in the Southeastern United States (yes, they exist) seems to work with this population. I’ve given up on even trying to argue the point.

  • Straight People Problems. “I love the taste of this food, what’s the best way to get the blood off my fingers when i lick them?”
    Answer: get a fucking sandwich elsewhere.

  • Adam King

    I’ve never eaten their crappy food. I prefer to cook at home, so I know what I’m eating.

  • Richard

    Continuing to purchase products from a business that discriminates while donating a like amount to an organization/group being discriminated against is ridiculous. Purchasing the product from the bigot is still supporting the bigot, it’s just that simple.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    There are plenty of non-CFA places to get good chicken sandwiches. Period.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Also, CFA still has its hands in fundie-grift prayer circles. The corp .supports these orgs with food for their meetings, etc. Leopard doesn’t change its spots.

  • SheepSheepRun

    Chick-Fil-A did stop giving money to anti-gay lobbyist like the Family Research Council after the issue blew up, which was a big win for the good guys and one that they have not publicized most likely to avoid looking like they ‘caved to the gays’ and hurt their customers that enjoy the chain because they THINK they are still anti-gay. While Dan Cathy may publicly say he still “believes in traditional marriage,” he’s no longer using corporate profits to hurt gay lives. While I’d never seek Chick-Fil-A out after all of this, I wouldn’t refuse to eat it in the same way I would when they WERE giving money to hate groups. I’m inclined to think this straight couple should be able to dine there without guilt at this point. If they once again starting giving to hate groups then it would need to be revisited.

    • The Milkman

      Sure, he is. He’s just making the donations from non-corporate accounts. Don’t be fooled.

      • SheepSheepRun

        Do you have proof of this or just a guess?

        Believe me, I’m not trying to argue for this guy. I just think there is a big difference between using corporate profits to give money to hate groups and just saying a thing, or giving personally.

        I’m still not going to Chick-Fil-A.

    • Bruno

      But as Peltrow says, LGBT employees at CFA have ZERO protection from discrimination from the company. And given Cathay’s views, we can expect there is rampant discrimination at this company. I feel no better about them.

  • customartist

    First, he would have to donate MORE then his purchase to counterbalance its affects,…
    But then, he is seen patronizing said establishment, setting a bad example, and having no moral control in the end,…
    so no can do.

  • DaveMiller135

    “Stand facing the stove……”

  • uhhuhh

    Discrimination is not like emitting carbon, so you can’t just undo it by planting a tree or writing a check.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Hmmm…sh*tty fast food, my friends’ civil rights…sh*tty fast food, my friends’ civil rights. Damn, that’s a head-scratcher.

    • it’s her husband. maybe he isnt who either of them thinks

  • GayOldLady

    If this was my friend I’d simply ask her “If there was a snake coiled and prepared to strike me, would you feed that snake or kill that snake?”

    It’s basically that simple. You either defend your friends, even if it means personal sacrifice and inconvenience, or you eat chicken nuggets and waffle fries.

    • she’s the wife, not the chicken eater. i say the donation route works only if it’s a massive commitment to help people, whether getting them out of those crazzy nations or supporting Al Forni house with $100s a month. It should hurt a bit.You get a pass for giving our huband [who you dont control] a pass because you’re really doing something. but with Uganda the way it is partly thank to chik Fil A dont insult the value of people’s lives by offering chump change

  • EdA

    Chick-Fil-A is most assuredly not the only place in Virginia that has chicken sandwiches and/or waffle fries. In fact, for what it’s worth, there are a number of Old Country Buffets which have food that is no worse (except of course calorically), more of it, and effectively cheaper.

    This lady’s husband is in the same position as someone who buys gas from ExxonMobil and makes up for it by donating to a gay rights group. MUCH better is not to get the objectionable product in the first place and still give to the gay rights group.

  • Toasterlad

    Eh…can’t get too worked up about this. Scratch any corporation hard enough, and you’ll find some anti-gay practices. Even companies with apparently great LGBT records contribute to anti-gay politicians. Everyone’s entitled to draw their own line in the sand as regards what companies they will and won’t support, and why. I don’t patronize Chik-fil-A because they’re affiliated specifically with anti-gay groups, but I’m not going to pass judgment on someone who claims to be pro-gay but still eats there…particularly if they’re also making an off-setting donation to a pro-gay cause, which is more than most Chik-fil-A customer would be doing. We as a community have bigger fish to fry than shaming someone into not eating at Chik-fil-A.

  • delk

    Check out this chicken place in Chicago!

    http://www.leghornchicken.com/about/

    • ACR

      I work down the street from there (well 7 blocks away). Might have to try some.

      • delk

        I’ve only been to the first one on Western & Augusta.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    Chick-fil-A is privately owned by the Cathy family. While the company has scaled back — not eliminated, mind you — its endorsement of bigotry and hate, the Cathy family remains vigorous supporters of Dominionism and theocracy. And because the Cathy family are the sole stockholders, every penny in profit that Chick-fil-A is Cathy family income, which can and probably will be used to support their bigoted agenda. So the answer is: if you eat Chick-fil-A, you are supporting rabid homophobia.

  • bob

    Chick fil a does have a unique taste and I did like them. Maybe they use Starbuck’s magic ingredient , loI. I will NOT spend one cent there, not even if Cathy stopped all his donations and did a complete turnaround on his anti gay views. The place just gives me the creeps, along with the people that eat there.

  • DaveW

    He is fighting to keep eating crap. She has a bigger issue.

    It’s crap food, you have nothing to give up

    • KnownDonorDad

      Co-signed. Back in the day before Dan Cathy’s views made news, I tried it from time to time…those greasy sandwiches repeat on you something fierce, and I gave up on them of my own accord.

  • People4Humanity

    If they eat Chick-fil-Hate®, is it OK to wash it down with Coors™?

  • kladinvt

    Considering that the meat they sell is full of antibiotics, chlorine and other harmful chemicals, maybe this person’s husband should find a better establishment to frequent, or learn to cook for himself or better yet, go vegetarian.

  • JCF

    If he were to risk a Dine&Dash [I doubt that would even be possible at the Full-A(hole) place]. But he can’t give them 1c!

  • Lawerence Collins

    My partner and I live with his uncle. I’ve realized that they’re all Uber hypocrites. Uncle claims to be a republican but voted for Quinn in Il. As that thug Rauner has claimed many govt job cuts. The uncle works for the IRS. Christmas time a story ran showing walmart workers picketing for better wages. The uncle said fire em all and hire new people. WTF?!
    Oh I get it. As long as he has his. All that matters! Yeah he’s a GOP thug!
    This guy sounds just as thick, clueless or hypocritical.

  • Sean Taylor

    First ma’am, that crap is slowly killing your husband. It’s processed garbage from chickens that were raised in the worst possible conditions. And, no he cannot offset his guilt with monetary contributions to friendly organizations. But if we all wait he’ll just have a heart attack and die from that crap and this will all be moot.

    • MBear

      feed him all he wants and watch him die a slow & painful death….?

  • Bj Lincoln

    There is no off set. If you can’t give up a shitty chicken sandwich for your friends then you are not a good friend. What else do you do that causes guilt you ignore or rationalize?

  • greenmanTN

    I admit it! I like Chik-Fil-A sandwiches!

    However, there’s no effing way I’m going to give them any money which will in turn be used to limit my rights.

    SO, I found a copycat recipe for the CFA sandwich online, which really did taste the same. FWIW, the two “secret” steps the recipe suggests, marinating the chicken breasts in a little pickle juice and putting a small amount of confectioners sugar in the flour to coat the chicken.

    Here’s the recipe, which was created due to CFA’s opposition to gay rights. http://hilahcooking.com/chick-fil-a-copycat/

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  • doninkansas

    I have to confess that I do love Chick-Fil-A sandwiches, but stopped eating them long ago. Even before Cathy started making those anti-marriage statements I had stopped eating their. Any organization that holds such horrible beliefs will not get my money. And every time something new comes out about this company, it just strengthens my resolve not give them any of my money.

  • mammaleh

    They’re opening one about a quarter mile from my job and I don’t care if they give it away for free, I’ll never set foot in a hate chicken store. I’ve done everything I can to spread the word, and I’m proud to say that several friends, my daughter, niece, and even my 80 year old mother won’t touch it.
    I’m educating my coworkers now.
    I know that the little money we’re not spending there doesn’t make a difference to their bottom line, but I refuse to support a place that revels in treating a segment of the population as less than human. The response from the religious right was so hateful, and I cannot forget it. It’s about self-respect, I guess.

  • SFHarry

    Even if the company is no longer giving to right wing conservative groups it doesn’t mean Cathy isn’t. Every bite you take is a little more money for Cathy to spend oppressing LGBT people and others.

  • MBear

    craving fast food that bad is a mental disorder

  • I think if she gave $500/month to organizations smuggling gays our of russia and uganda and nigeria, that could matter. Plus another $300/month to Al Forni house.

  • maybe it’s time to tell the world chik fil a has a secret new policy.

    theyve asked empolyees not to wash their hands after using the bathroom, to save on soap.